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wrote in message oups.com... They'd have to fence it. What about stolen gubernatorial elections? |
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:04:04 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
What about stolen gubernatorial elections? I'm no Jeb supporter, but I think he won fair and square. bb |
NOYB wrote:
What about stolen gubernatorial elections? What about stolen elections, period? Not to say that the Washington election was 'stolen', mind you. When Republicans steal elections (and I mean steal them in clear & obvious violation of the law & of basic principles of democracy), you are delighted. When right-wing activists judges legislate from the bench, you are elated. When right-winger call names and post insulting nonsense, you are the first to claim a halo and join in. When anybody else does the same thing, you pout and call 'foul!' Conclusion: you're a one-sided jackass who cannot see past his own immediate gratification. Science degree? Business? What difference does it make in the face the above listed serious personality handicap(s)? Personally, I think you're also a socialist agitator with the goal of making the pro-Bush neoconservatives look bad, but that's just me. Doesn't change the above listed logical & definite conclusion. DSK |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... William J Browning wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:04:04 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: What about stolen gubernatorial elections? I'm no Jeb supporter, but I think he won fair and square. bb I don't believe our staff dentist is referring to the Florida gubernatorial election. I was referring to Gregoire. |
Around 6/7/2005 10:09 AM, NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... William J Browning wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:04:04 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: What about stolen gubernatorial elections? I'm no Jeb supporter, but I think he won fair and square. bb I don't believe our staff dentist is referring to the Florida gubernatorial election. I was referring to Gregoire. Indeed. Thank goodness Rossi didn't get away with it. -- ~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat" "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." -Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows |
Around 6/7/2005 11:00 AM, HarryKrause wrote:
Garth Almgren wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:04:04 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: What about stolen gubernatorial elections? Indeed. Thank goodness Rossi didn't get away with it. But diebold got away with it, bigtime. Yep: http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ and http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/5921.html -- ~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat" "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." -Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows |
What about stolen gubernatorial elections?
******************* That's of some concern. When the hand-picked, ultra conservative, right wing judge from the most pro-Republican county in Washington state threw Dino Rossi and the Republicans out the courthouse door and into the street yesterday, he was careful to note that he based his ruling on applicable state laws. (Don't you hate that? Shouldn't he have taken an "activist" stance and handed the decision to his cronies?) While the judge concluded that statewide there were about 1800 illegal votes, (out of almost three million), the only evidence presented in court showing any candidate benefitted from any of those votes indicated that four of the 1800 had voted for Dino Rossi, and there was no other evidence presented by either side to indicate how the remaining 0.00000005% (or whatever) actually voted. The judge had no legal choice except to recognize that the probability that all those illegal voters had voted for Gregoire was no higher than the probability that they had all voted for Rossi. Any other conclusion would be based on a guess, not evidence. There was no evidence submitted that showed how many of the illegal voters, if any, even cast a vote in the governor's race on the general election ballot. A certain percentage of voters in WA voted for candidates runing for POTUS and little or nothing else last November. However, the Republicans carried the day in an important sense. Having narrowly lost the election by a riculously tiny margin, the only thing the GOP could hope to do would be taint the Democrats with rumors and claims of criminal conspiracies. They have had an additional seven months after the election to keep their scandalous headlines, absurd accusations, etc, in the public eye. Rossi shrewdly threw in the towel after yesterday's ruling and rebuke by Judge Bridges; the State Supreme Court is more liberal than Judge Bridges, and by law neither party can introduce any new evidence (in other words, correct the errors of their first case) during an appeal. Carrying the fight forward from here would taint Rossi as a "sore loser" and damage his future political prospects. Among the die-hard Republicans, Rossi still enjoys a lot of support and he will have a leg-up in early contributions and organization should he decide to run for public office in the future. (Watch out, Senator Cantwell) You probably aren't aware of this, down in FLA, but earlier this year the Repubs trotted out a long list of very specific charges of fraud and criminal activity they claimed swung the election to Gregoire. Funny thing- not one of those truly outrageous charges actually came up in the courtroom. They didn't come up in court because when the Republicans were deposed in pre-trail precedings they declined to repeat *under oath* the same charges they were planting in the newspapers and on talk radio. Why do you suppose that would be? (hint, becuase they weren't based on fact) While the charges were never presented in court, they continue to circulate on right wing radio shows, etc. Politics as usual. And too bad. That's the main reason I'm an independent, rather than a straight ticket voter. |
"Garth Almgren" wrote in message ... Around 6/7/2005 10:09 AM, NOYB wrote: "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... William J Browning wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:04:04 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: What about stolen gubernatorial elections? I'm no Jeb supporter, but I think he won fair and square. bb I don't believe our staff dentist is referring to the Florida gubernatorial election. I was referring to Gregoire. Indeed. Thank goodness Rossi didn't get away with it. You mean, Rossi, the guy who won the election, and the first recount? And then lost on *another* recount when one of the counties *found* a few hundred votes for his opponent? |
"Garth Almgren" wrote in message ... Around 6/7/2005 11:00 AM, HarryKrause wrote: Garth Almgren wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:04:04 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: What about stolen gubernatorial elections? Indeed. Thank goodness Rossi didn't get away with it. But diebold got away with it, bigtime. Yep: http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ and Hahahahaha. blackboxvoting...and black helicopters too! |
wrote in message oups.com... What about stolen gubernatorial elections? ******************* That's of some concern. When the hand-picked, ultra conservative, right wing judge from the most pro-Republican county in Washington state threw Dino Rossi and the Republicans out the courthouse door and into the street yesterday, he was careful to note that he based his ruling on applicable state laws. (Don't you hate that? Shouldn't he have taken an "activist" stance and handed the decision to his cronies?) While the judge concluded that statewide there were about 1800 illegal votes, (out of almost three million), the only evidence presented in court showing any candidate benefitted from any of those votes indicated that four of the 1800 had voted for Dino Rossi, and there was no other evidence presented by either side to indicate how the remaining 0.00000005% (or whatever) actually voted. The judge had no legal choice except to recognize that the probability that all those illegal voters had voted for Gregoire was no higher than the probability that they had all voted for Rossi. Any other conclusion would be based on a guess, not evidence. There was no evidence submitted that showed how many of the illegal voters, if any, even cast a vote in the governor's race on the general election ballot. A certain percentage of voters in WA voted for candidates runing for POTUS and little or nothing else last November. However, the Republicans carried the day in an important sense. Having narrowly lost the election by a riculously tiny margin, the only thing the GOP could hope to do would be taint the Democrats with rumors and claims of criminal conspiracies. They have had an additional seven months after the election to keep their scandalous headlines, absurd accusations, etc, in the public eye. Rossi shrewdly threw in the towel after yesterday's ruling and rebuke by Judge Bridges; the State Supreme Court is more liberal than Judge Bridges, and by law neither party can introduce any new evidence (in other words, correct the errors of their first case) during an appeal. Carrying the fight forward from here would taint Rossi as a "sore loser" and damage his future political prospects. Like Sore Loserman? Among the die-hard Republicans, Rossi still enjoys a lot of support and he will have a leg-up in early contributions and organization should he decide to run for public office in the future. (Watch out, Senator Cantwell) Ah, yes, Ms. Cantwell. Another Dem who stole her way into office. You probably aren't aware of this, down in FLA, but earlier this year the Repubs trotted out a long list of very specific charges of fraud and criminal activity they claimed swung the election to Gregoire. Funny thing- not one of those truly outrageous charges actually came up in the courtroom. They didn't come up in court because when the Republicans were deposed in pre-trail precedings they declined to repeat *under oath* the same charges they were planting in the newspapers and on talk radio. Why do you suppose that would be? (hint, becuase they weren't based on fact) Facts sometimes have nothing to do with why evidence isn't presented in court. Evidence that would convince 9 out of 10 reasonable people is sometimes inadmissable in a court room. While the charges were never presented in court, they continue to circulate on right wing radio shows, etc. Politics as usual. And too bad. That's the main reason I'm an independent, rather than a straight ticket voter. Hehehe. Independently (and consistently) leaning towards the Democratic Party. |
Around 6/7/2005 12:10 PM, NOYB wrote:
"Garth Almgren" wrote in message ... Around 6/7/2005 11:00 AM, HarryKrause wrote: But diebold got away with it, bigtime. Yep: http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ and http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/5921.html Hahahahaha. blackboxvoting dot org. That's the one. You find verifiable election fraud amusing? Or maybe the thought of voting machines that a savvy 12-year-old can hack _undetectably_ tickles your fancy? Anything to get Bush another term, eh? -- ~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat" "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." -Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows |
Indeed. Thank goodness Rossi didn't get away with it.
NOYB wrote: You mean, Rossi, the guy who won the election, and the first recount? No, he means Rossi the guy who lost the election and couldn't accept the results, and who is *still* hinting and insinuating things that he doesn't dare say in court. DSK |
Around 6/7/2005 12:09 PM, NOYB wrote:
"Garth Almgren" wrote in message ... Around 6/7/2005 10:09 AM, NOYB wrote: I was referring to Gregoire. Indeed. Thank goodness Rossi didn't get away with it. You mean, Rossi, the guy who won the election, and the first recount? Nope, I mean Rossi, the guy who almost stole the election but ultimately lost, as verified by the hand recount and upheld by Chelan County Superior Court Judge John Bridges. -- ~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat" "There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." -Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows |
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:10:23 +0000, NOYB wrote:
Yep: http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ and Hahahahaha. blackboxvoting...and black helicopters too! Geez NOYB, there are some very real dangers associated with paperless, electronic voting. Concerns for anyone, Democrat or Republican, who believes in the democratic process. |
Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould
thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) "NOYB" wrote in message k.net... wrote in message oups.com... What about stolen gubernatorial elections? ******************* That's of some concern. When the hand-picked, ultra conservative, right wing judge from the most pro-Republican county in Washington state threw Dino Rossi and the Republicans out the courthouse door and into the street yesterday, he was careful to note that he based his ruling on applicable state laws. (Don't you hate that? Shouldn't he have taken an "activist" stance and handed the decision to his cronies?) While the judge concluded that statewide there were about 1800 illegal votes, (out of almost three million), the only evidence presented in court showing any candidate benefitted from any of those votes indicated that four of the 1800 had voted for Dino Rossi, and there was no other evidence presented by either side to indicate how the remaining 0.00000005% (or whatever) actually voted. The judge had no legal choice except to recognize that the probability that all those illegal voters had voted for Gregoire was no higher than the probability that they had all voted for Rossi. Any other conclusion would be based on a guess, not evidence. There was no evidence submitted that showed how many of the illegal voters, if any, even cast a vote in the governor's race on the general election ballot. A certain percentage of voters in WA voted for candidates runing for POTUS and little or nothing else last November. However, the Republicans carried the day in an important sense. Having narrowly lost the election by a riculously tiny margin, the only thing the GOP could hope to do would be taint the Democrats with rumors and claims of criminal conspiracies. They have had an additional seven months after the election to keep their scandalous headlines, absurd accusations, etc, in the public eye. Rossi shrewdly threw in the towel after yesterday's ruling and rebuke by Judge Bridges; the State Supreme Court is more liberal than Judge Bridges, and by law neither party can introduce any new evidence (in other words, correct the errors of their first case) during an appeal. Carrying the fight forward from here would taint Rossi as a "sore loser" and damage his future political prospects. Like Sore Loserman? Among the die-hard Republicans, Rossi still enjoys a lot of support and he will have a leg-up in early contributions and organization should he decide to run for public office in the future. (Watch out, Senator Cantwell) Ah, yes, Ms. Cantwell. Another Dem who stole her way into office. You probably aren't aware of this, down in FLA, but earlier this year the Repubs trotted out a long list of very specific charges of fraud and criminal activity they claimed swung the election to Gregoire. Funny thing- not one of those truly outrageous charges actually came up in the courtroom. They didn't come up in court because when the Republicans were deposed in pre-trail precedings they declined to repeat *under oath* the same charges they were planting in the newspapers and on talk radio. Why do you suppose that would be? (hint, becuase they weren't based on fact) Facts sometimes have nothing to do with why evidence isn't presented in court. Evidence that would convince 9 out of 10 reasonable people is sometimes inadmissable in a court room. While the charges were never presented in court, they continue to circulate on right wing radio shows, etc. Politics as usual. And too bad. That's the main reason I'm an independent, rather than a straight ticket voter. Hehehe. Independently (and consistently) leaning towards the Democratic Party. |
"John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. |
"NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. The *real* Hillary came out this weekend. According to her...."There has never been an administration, I don't believe, in our history more intent upon consolidating and abusing power to further their own agenda," she said of President Bush." A tough act she has to follow...being a liberal extremists to her NY constituents and appearing as a moderate to the US electorate But in the end the fact that she is facing re-election in 2006 must now take priority. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...9/101215.shtml http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=827267 Keep it up Hillary. ;-) |
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:10:23 +0000, NOYB wrote: Yep: http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ and Hahahahaha. blackboxvoting...and black helicopters too! Geez NOYB, there are some very real dangers associated with paperless, electronic voting. Concerns for anyone, Democrat or Republican, who believes in the democratic process. The US House of Representatives use electonic voting. Are you against that too? |
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... "thunder" wrote in message ... On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:10:23 +0000, NOYB wrote: Yep: http://www.blackboxvoting.org/ and Hahahahaha. blackboxvoting...and black helicopters too! Geez NOYB, there are some very real dangers associated with paperless, electronic voting. Concerns for anyone, Democrat or Republican, who believes in the democratic process. The US House of Representatives use electonic voting. Are you against that too? Most likely not until the House became a republican majority. |
Gould thinking he is independent is sort of like all those Republicans who
voted for Zell Miller, bragging that they are independents, "Why heck, I even voted for Zell Miller. I vote for the person not the party, I am independent". ; ) "NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. |
Chuckwrote hand picked ultra conservative, right wing judge from the most pro-Republican county in Washington snipped ************************************************* Gee Chuck, Seems you're the only one in Wa state that knows Judge Bridges party affiliation. True the Rossi brigade filed in Chelan, because 64% voted Rossi, but donuts to dollars you're talking out a paper wazoo when it comes to Judge Bridges. Heres a hint, Judge Bridges was appointed by Gov Booth Gardner (dem) in 1988. BTW, Whats that shiny Bling Bling thing sticking out of Bridges ear? UD |
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:56:50 -0400, "John Jay" wrote:
Gould thinking he is independent is sort of like all those Republicans who voted for Zell Miller, bragging that they are independents, "Why heck, I even voted for Zell Miller. I vote for the person not the party, I am independent". ; ) "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. Chuck and I are both totally independent. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:30:03 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:
NOYB wrote: "John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. I don't remember the poll, but I sure don't want to be in the same room with right-wing rectal fissures. They smell. Facilitating---er, encouraging, again, Harry? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
I very much admire Judge Bridges for the political courage he
displayed. He answers to an electorate in a county that is almost as "R" as King County is "D". (As you know, Kerry got 80% of the vote in King County). At the time the Republicans filed they said there were two reasons they selected Judge Bridges. 1) He is one of the few judges in the state who had previously heard an election challenge. (He overturned an election for Mayor of Wenatchee, IIRC) 2) They expected a "fair" (as in "friendly") hearing in the courtroom of a judge with a conservative track record subject to removal by the voters in an extremely conservative county. That thing sticking out of his ear is a diamond stud. Just because a guy is a conservative doesn't mean he can't be stylish, or even a bit avante garde. Who do you think is buying all those $35,000 motorcycles these days? A bunch of the market is 60-year-old businessmen and based on demographics alone most of them are probably Republicans.......meaning, of course, that they only ride those Harley's to church picnics. :-) BTW, I considered voting for Rossi. I liked the guy on a personal level. Gregoire was only so-so as an AG. In the end, I finally went for Christine Gregoire because she had better initials. (just kidding). In the end, I was turned off by the *very* dirty last minute campaigning by the Rossi campaign and by the independent PAC groups supporting him. Dino Rossi I could stand, but the people he was obviously going to surround himself were not appealing at all. It was a race that boiled down to the lesser of two evils- and the almost perfectly 50/50 split across the state probably indicated that most people had a tough time figuring out who the lesser evil was. In a county where Kerry took 80% of the vote, I think Gregoire's percentage was down in the 60's, so a lot of people with progressive preferences obviously struggled with the same decision I did. Judge Bridges showed a lot of guts, and did his job without caving in to political pressure. If he ever runs for a statewide office I would have to consider his candidacy very carefully. |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:56:50 -0400, "John Jay" wrote: Gould thinking he is independent is sort of like all those Republicans who voted for Zell Miller, bragging that they are independents, "Why heck, I even voted for Zell Miller. I vote for the person not the party, I am independent". ; ) "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. Chuck and I are both totally independent. -- John H And a bear don't **** in the woods. |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:56:50 -0400, "John Jay" wrote: Gould thinking he is independent is sort of like all those Republicans who voted for Zell Miller, bragging that they are independents, "Why heck, I even voted for Zell Miller. I vote for the person not the party, I am independent". ; ) "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. Chuck and I are both totally independent. -- John H .. And a pigs ass ain't pork. |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:56:50 -0400, "John Jay" wrote: Gould thinking he is independent is sort of like all those Republicans who voted for Zell Miller, bragging that they are independents, "Why heck, I even voted for Zell Miller. I vote for the person not the party, I am independent". ; ) "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. Chuck and I are both totally independent. -- John H And submarines have screen doors. |
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:40:54 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:
Geez NOYB, there are some very real dangers associated with paperless, electronic voting. Concerns for anyone, Democrat or Republican, who believes in the democratic process. The US House of Representatives use electonic voting. Are you against that too? No, I never said I was against electronic voting. |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. I don't remember the poll, Here's the poll: http://madrabbit.net/webrabbit/quizshow.html Here were my predictions Newsgroups: rec.boats From: "NOYB" - Find messages by this author Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:29:23 GMT Local: Mon,Oct 28 2002 8:29 pm Subject: Test Time, Ass or Elephant Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse I'd expect Harry to fall between Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. Gould should land about the same as Hillary. We won't be able to evaluate the rest of the liberals here because most of them can't read. (Harry nuked his post...but his response was: "Correct") Newsgroups: rec.boats From: (Gould 0738) - Find messages by this author Date: 29 Oct 2002 02:08:10 GMT Local: Mon,Oct 28 2002 9:08 pm Subject: Test Time, Ass or Elephant Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse I'd expect Harry to fall between Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. Gould should land about the same as Hillary. Good call, NOYB. I scored a "10". The creators of this chart used Hillary C. as an example of somebody ikely to score a 10. While I don't agree with HIllary on some of her specific ideas, it might be fair to say that I am about as liberal as.. Newsgroups: rec.boats From: "NOYB" - Find messages by this author Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:00:39 GMT Local: Tues,Oct 29 2002 8:00 am Subject: Test Time, Ass or Elephant Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Two good calls, actually. I also figured Harry for an 8 or 9. |
wrote in message oups.com... What about stolen gubernatorial elections? ******************* That's of some concern. When the hand-picked, ultra conservative, right wing judge Right wing judge? http://www.seattleweekly.com/graphic...s_wenatche.jpg See that earring in his ear? Male Righties don't wear earrings. |
Right wing judge?
http://www.seattleweekly.com/g=ADrap...n=ADews_wenat= ..=2E. See that earring in his ear? Male Righties don't wear earrings. ******************** Get real. Next you'll insist that righties don't do drugs.......and Rush Limbaugh will agree with you. :-) |
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:59:33 -0400, Ted wrote:
No, I never said I was against electronic voting. IMHO, computers are not the way to vote. Since I can program a computer to do what I want it too, I could easily slip in a little margin. Paper ballots are still the best, though long ago, the paper ballots went through the box and into the basement where they could be "sorted". Today, the odds of that happening are slim, but it would take a lot of proof that an electronic voting machine was reliable. Sure, i could show you dozens, once you bought thousands and thousands, you won't make me perform the same tests would you? I think electronic voting can work, but it has to be transparent and capable of being audited. Fortunately, due in part to websites such as blackboxvoting.org, there is a major push to require voter verified paper ballots. All but twelve states have legislation in the pipeline. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/ |
"Ted" tedwilliams@nospam wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:34:12 -0400, "NOYB" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... What about stolen gubernatorial elections? ******************* That's of some concern. When the hand-picked, ultra conservative, right wing judge Right wing judge? http://www.seattleweekly.com/graphic...s_wenatche.jpg See that earring in his ear? Male Righties don't wear earrings. Sorry to disappoint you. One of my designers wears earrings in both ears. He listens to Rush all day while working, Male Righties wear 2 earrings. Ted I know many conservative and liberals who wear earrings. |
NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... What about stolen gubernatorial elections? ******************* That's of some concern. When the hand-picked, ultra conservative, right wing judge Right wing judge? http://www.seattleweekly.com/graphic...s_wenatche.jpg See that earring in his ear? Male Righties don't wear earrings. \ they can't, their ears are too close together because of their narrow minds.... |
"Ted" tedwilliams@nospam wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:34:12 -0400, "NOYB" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... What about stolen gubernatorial elections? ******************* That's of some concern. When the hand-picked, ultra conservative, right wing judge Right wing judge? http://www.seattleweekly.com/graphic...s_wenatche.jpg See that earring in his ear? Male Righties don't wear earrings. Sorry to disappoint you. One of my designers wears earrings in both ears. He listens to Rush all day while working A "designer" with earrings? Listening to Rush. He's a leftist spy just trying to keep up with the agenda of those on the right. |
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:16:18 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:56:50 -0400, "John Jay" wrote: Gould thinking he is independent is sort of like all those Republicans who voted for Zell Miller, bragging that they are independents, "Why heck, I even voted for Zell Miller. I vote for the person not the party, I am independent". ; ) "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "John Jay" wrote in message ... Gould is independent as long as the candidate is ultra leftwing. Heck Gould thinks Harry is a moderate. ; ) And Harry thinks Hillary is a moderate. Awhile back, somebody posted a link where you took a test, and the results showed where you fit on a line of people from ultra-left to ultra-right. Without ever seeing the results, I accurately predicted *precisely* where Gould and Harry ended up on the line. Later, I'll google up that thread. Harry was in an almost exact tie with Hillary Clinton...and Gould was to the left of both of them. Chuck and I are both totally independent. -- John H And submarines have screen doors. LMAO! I like this one the best! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:59:33 -0400, Ted wrote: No, I never said I was against electronic voting. IMHO, computers are not the way to vote. Since I can program a computer to do what I want it too, I could easily slip in a little margin. Paper ballots are still the best, though long ago, the paper ballots went through the box and into the basement where they could be "sorted". Today, the odds of that happening are slim, but it would take a lot of proof that an electronic voting machine was reliable. Sure, i could show you dozens, once you bought thousands and thousands, you won't make me perform the same tests would you? I think electronic voting can work, but it has to be transparent and capable of being audited. Fortunately, due in part to websites such as blackboxvoting.org, there is a major push to require voter verified paper ballots. All but twelve states have legislation in the pipeline. http://www.verifiedvoting.org/ Western Florida has electronic voting and a paper ballot. You mark the ballot, and the machine scans it for errors. Same as you could do with any electronic voting machine. Simple to put a printer on the machine and it prints out a paper record, and that record can be reviewed by the voter and then dropped in a ballot box for an audit trail. |
"Ted" tedwilliams@nospam wrote in message ... On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:04:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: "Ted" tedwilliams@nospam wrote in message . .. On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:34:12 -0400, "NOYB" wrote: wrote in message legroups.com... What about stolen gubernatorial elections? ******************* That's of some concern. When the hand-picked, ultra conservative, right wing judge Right wing judge? http://www.seattleweekly.com/graphic...s_wenatche.jpg See that earring in his ear? Male Righties don't wear earrings. Sorry to disappoint you. One of my designers wears earrings in both ears. He listens to Rush all day while working A "designer" with earrings? Listening to Rush. He's a leftist spy just trying to keep up with the agenda of those on the right. You have to be joking. I won't get suckered into this one. He has worked for me for 15 years and he sure as hell isn't a spy. :) 15 years? That makes him a very deep cover spy. But a spy nonetheless! |
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