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This could be a nice group
if you didn't have to wade through all the dead grass and mud off topic
posts to find one pertaining to boating........... only three days here and I think I'll pass to something more relevant... |
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:12:33 -0400, "C.M.German"
wrote: if you didn't have to wade through all the dead grass and mud off topic posts to find one pertaining to boating........... only three days here and I think I'll pass to something more relevant... Relevant to what? Got something you want to discuss - fire away. Later, Tom |
Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is
it warranty work? |
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:26:18 -0400, "C.M.German"
wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? Around here, $80 bucks for a rehubbed prop. Warranty? How long has it been since you purchased it? If it's still in the warranty period, nothing. If it's ,not, $80. Later, Tom |
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:26:18 -0400, "C.M.German" wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? Around here, $80 bucks for a rehubbed prop. Warranty? How long has it been since you purchased it? If it's still in the warranty period, nothing. If it's ,not, $80. Later, Tom Warranty doesn't cover spun hubs unless there was a defect in material or workmanship that caused it. CN |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... C.M.German wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? $75 to $100, but how new? It should be a warranty item if the engine is new. Wrong again, Krause! The warranty covers defects in material and workmanship. A spun hub is usually caused by some fool hitting something with the prop. It's a safety feature built in to keep the gears and or shafts from being damaged. Unless the owner can show where a defect in material or workmanship caused the prop to spin the hub he's totally out of luck when it comes to warranty. CN |
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:55:27 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:26:18 -0400, "C.M.German" wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? Around here, $80 bucks for a rehubbed prop. Warranty? How long has it been since you purchased it? If it's still in the warranty period, nothing. If it's ,not, $80. Warranty doesn't cover spun hubs unless there was a defect in material or workmanship that caused it. No offense, but you are dead wrong. Sorry. Later, Tom |
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:55:27 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:26:18 -0400, "C.M.German" wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? Around here, $80 bucks for a rehubbed prop. Warranty? How long has it been since you purchased it? If it's still in the warranty period, nothing. If it's ,not, $80. Warranty doesn't cover spun hubs unless there was a defect in material or workmanship that caused it. No offense, but you are dead wrong. Sorry. Later, Tom You had better read the *warranty* I'm talking manufacturer's warranty and not some extended warranty plan which is but an insurance policy. Extended warranties may well cover spun hubs but manufacturer's warranties do not. CN |
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:55:27 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:26:18 -0400, "C.M.German" wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? Around here, $80 bucks for a rehubbed prop. Warranty? How long has it been since you purchased it? If it's still in the warranty period, nothing. If it's ,not, $80. Warranty doesn't cover spun hubs unless there was a defect in material or workmanship that caused it. No offense, but you are dead wrong. Sorry. Later, Tom You are an idiot who never read a warranty in your life. Just another typical nutter who thinks EVERYTHING is covered by a warranty . . . Read section 2 (d) in particular. http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/warranty/en/pdf/Polcyob.PDF |
Yea as if you or any of your sock puppets have ever had, on topic naaa
HarryKrause wrote: C.M.German wrote: if you didn't have to wade through all the dead grass and mud off topic posts to find one pertaining to boating........... only three days here and I think I'll pass to something more relevant... We'll miss all your interesting, informative, on-topic posts about boating. -- If it is Bad for Bush, It is Good for the United States. |
just replaced the top gear unit on my right 1984 OMC out drive, now
when I turn the steering wheel my two outdrives move in opposite directions. Is there a left drive and a right drive and if I replaced a right drive with a left drive would this cause this problem? Dry wrote: Yea as if you or any of your sock puppets have ever had, on topic naaa HarryKrause wrote: C.M.German wrote: if you didn't have to wade through all the dead grass and mud off topic posts to find one pertaining to boating........... only three days here and I think I'll pass to something more relevant... We'll miss all your interesting, informative, on-topic posts about boating. -- If it is Bad for Bush, It is Good for the United States. |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:55:27 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:26:18 -0400, "C.M.German" wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? Around here, $80 bucks for a rehubbed prop. Warranty? How long has it been since you purchased it? If it's still in the warranty period, nothing. If it's ,not, $80. Warranty doesn't cover spun hubs unless there was a defect in material or workmanship that caused it. No offense, but you are dead wrong. Sorry. Later, Tom You are an idiot who never read a warranty in your life. Just another typical nutter who thinks EVERYTHING is covered by a warranty . . . Read section 2 (d) in particular. http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/warranty/en/pdf/Polcyob.PDF And also read 3 (f). Note it calls props a normal wear and tear item. I hope this helps CN (used to work for Suzuki as a technical advisor and handled warranty claims for dealers in three states) |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:26:18 -0400, "C.M.German" wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? Around here, $80 bucks for a rehubbed prop. Warranty? How long has it been since you purchased it? If it's still in the warranty period, nothing. If it's ,not, $80. Later, Tom Warranty doesn't cover spun hubs unless there was a defect in material or workmanship that caused it. CN How the hell would you know? It really depends on the dealer. My Parker dealer tends NOT to turn down warranty claims, even after the supposed warranty period has expired. I had a small ding in my Parker's rubrail, and the dealer took care of it this past season at no cost to me. "Covered under warranty," he said. If I spin the prop on my Yamaha, which is still under warranty, I am certain the dealer will take care of it. Perhaps if you weren't such a foul-smelling, obnoxious ass, and if you had a boat worth more than $100, you might get some help, too, with your 25-year-old outboard. Get your head out of your ass, Harry and read a warranty. I've posted a link to Yamaha's warranty here in this thread and shown in writing where spun props are NOT covered by warranty. If some dealer wants to eat it for customer satisfaction that's his own business but woe be to him if he attempts to gets reimbursed by the manufacturer. He'll be eating spun hubs for supper. CN |
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:15:34 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:55:27 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:26:18 -0400, "C.M.German" wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? Around here, $80 bucks for a rehubbed prop. Warranty? How long has it been since you purchased it? If it's still in the warranty period, nothing. If it's ,not, $80. Warranty doesn't cover spun hubs unless there was a defect in material or workmanship that caused it. No offense, but you are dead wrong. Sorry. You are an idiot who never read a warranty in your life. Just another typical nutter who thinks EVERYTHING is covered by a warranty . . . Read section 2 (d) in particular. http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/warranty/en/pdf/Polcyob.PDF Heh. Goodbye Neal - it's been fun. Later, Tom |
HarryKrause wrote:
snip... My dad had a sign hanging at his store that said, "We reserve the right to refuse to do business with people we don't like." Once or twice a season he invoked that clause. He would have tossed you out on your smelly butt. He'd be justified. Having the Capt hang around could be bad for business. |
Capt. Neal® wrote:
snip... CN (used to work for Suzuki as a technical advisor and handled warranty claims for dealers in three states) If that's true...you must have been a nightmare for more than one boater. |
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:55:11 GMT, Don White
wrote: Capt. Neal® wrote: snip... CN (used to work for Suzuki as a technical advisor and handled warranty claims for dealers in three states) If that's true...you must have been a nightmare for more than one boater. Notice the "used to". Probably got fired for being a jerk. Later, Tom |
HarryKrause wrote:
I find it hard to believe anyone anywhere would have hired "Cap'n Neal" for anything. I thought he worked for the US Post Office before he 'went postal'. |
Harold wrote:
Hey Don, fall off the wagon? Believe it or not, we have had many pleasant exchanges in rec.boats.cruising. Try to stay on the wagon please, I have enjoyed our chats. Harold Who are you over there? |
HarryKrause wrote:
Capt. Neal® wrote: "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... C.M.German wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? $75 to $100, but how new? It should be a warranty item if the engine is new. Wrong again, Krause! The warranty covers defects in material and workmanship. A spun hub is usually caused by some fool hitting something with the prop. It's a safety feature built in to keep the gears and or shafts from being damaged. Unless the owner can show where a defect in material or workmanship caused the prop to spin the hub he's totally out of luck when it comes to warranty. CN Save your lectures for your butt buddies, doofus. My dealer here and my dealer in Florida took and take care of whatever little items that go bang in the night on my boats, even if the warranty expired. Couple of weeks ago, my dealer replaced a bit of wiring he installed on one of my boats two seasons ago to power up an accessory. On recommissioning this year, the dealer's mechanic wrote on my bill, "Accessory not working, traced to wiring we installed. Replaced N/C." My dad had a sign hanging at his store that said, "We reserve the right to refuse to do business with people we don't like." Once or twice a season he invoked that clause. He would have tossed you out on your smelly butt. Just more lies upon lies upon lies Krause, are you so mentally ill you have started believing your own BS?? So even you might understand, you have no boat of your own & you never have had & every time you pretend otherwise here you just confirm it all the more. Grow up Krause & stop with the infantile lies. K Your Krause lie for the day is the one where he pretends Ullico the union thug pension fund is actually "his" business, when in reality it's where he works:-) But the interesting thing here is get a go of how they spend hard working unionists' money on themselves!!! I'm not wondering if the liar Krause won't come back & tell us this is a lie just so unionists' don't twig to what a rip off he & his mates a-) We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k, and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees. Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are not-for-profit enterprises. How do these compare to the bennies at your shop? Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year. Are they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to bankruptcy. Boy...and you had me going there for a minute. Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our business always goes up in a major election year. You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is such a total failure. The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there in case they're needed. Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD. The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to $10,000 per month. |
C.M.German wrote: if you didn't have to wade through all the dead grass and mud off topic posts to find one pertaining to boating........... only three days here and I think I'll pass to something more relevant... What does your above post have to do with boating? |
wrote in message oups.com... C.M.German wrote: if you didn't have to wade through all the dead grass and mud off topic posts to find one pertaining to boating........... only three days here and I think I'll pass to something more relevant... What does your above post have to do with boating? No less than yours . . . CN |
C.M.German wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? It would depend on the year the motor and prop were manufactured. If it's a 60's version, with original prop, I'd doubt it would be in warranty!!!! |
"C.M.German" wrote in message
... if you didn't have to wade through all the dead grass and mud off topic posts to find one pertaining to boating........... only three days here and I think I'll pass to something more relevant... That's the way unmoderated newsgroups are - it's a law of nature I believe! There's useful stuff and good people here if you are willing to wade through the chaff to find them. -- Peter Aitken |
Everyone seems to be missing the "new" part of the post. It has less than
the 20 hours required for the first warranty review......... wrote in message oups.com... C.M.German wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? It would depend on the year the motor and prop were manufactured. If it's a 60's version, with original prop, I'd doubt it would be in warranty!!!! |
"C.M.German" wrote in message ... Everyone seems to be missing the "new" part of the post. It has less than the 20 hours required for the first warranty review......... It doesn't matter because all it takes is five minutes for some fool to hit something with the prop and cause the hub to spin. This is what they put a hub in the prop for. It spins so the gears and shaft(s) don't break. Look at it this way. You drive a brand new automobile off the lot and then you puncture a tire on a big nail laying in the road. Is the tire covered by warranty? NO! Neither is a prop with a spun hub because they don't spin all by themselves. You hit something. Why not be a man, admit it, and spend 80 bucks to rehub the prop so it teaches you not to be so careless the next time around. CN |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "C.M.German" wrote in message ... Everyone seems to be missing the "new" part of the post. It has less than the 20 hours required for the first warranty review......... It doesn't matter because all it takes is five minutes for some fool to hit something with the prop and cause the hub to spin. This is what they put a hub in the prop for. It spins so the gears and shaft(s) don't break. Look at it this way. You drive a brand new automobile off the lot and then you puncture a tire on a big nail laying in the road. Is the tire covered by warranty? NO! Neither is a prop with a spun hub because they don't spin all by themselves. You hit something. Why not be a man, admit it, and spend 80 bucks to rehub the prop so it teaches you not to be so careless the next time around. CN |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "C.M.German" wrote in message ... Everyone seems to be missing the "new" part of the post. It has less than the 20 hours required for the first warranty review......... It doesn't matter because all it takes is five minutes for some fool to hit something with the prop and cause the hub to spin. This is what they put a hub in the prop for. It spins so the gears and shaft(s) don't break. Look at it this way. You drive a brand new automobile off the lot and then you puncture a tire on a big nail laying in the road. Is the tire covered by warranty? NO! Neither is a prop with a spun hub because they don't spin all by themselves. You hit something. Why not be a man, admit it, and spend 80 bucks to rehub the prop so it teaches you not to be so careless the next time around. CN I can agree with your concept but I must take exception to your implication that anyone who hits something in the water is a fool........ CM |
"HarryKrause" wrote in message ... C.M.German wrote: "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "C.M.German" wrote in message ... Everyone seems to be missing the "new" part of the post. It has less than the 20 hours required for the first warranty review......... It doesn't matter because all it takes is five minutes for some fool to hit something with the prop and cause the hub to spin. This is what they put a hub in the prop for. It spins so the gears and shaft(s) don't break. Look at it this way. You drive a brand new automobile off the lot and then you puncture a tire on a big nail laying in the road. Is the tire covered by warranty? NO! Neither is a prop with a spun hub because they don't spin all by themselves. You hit something. Why not be a man, admit it, and spend 80 bucks to rehub the prop so it teaches you not to be so careless the next time around. CN I can agree with your concept but I must take exception to your implication that anyone who hits something in the water is a fool........ CM Cap'n Neal thinks anyone who lives at a fixed address, bathes regularly, and has more than $20 cash is a fool. Really. With a motor as new as yours, and a spun hub, there is a possibility it was "faulty" from the factory. What does the exterior of the prop look like? Got all its paint? Any dings, nicks, scratches? I would say about 80% of the paint remains, after all, it's only got about 24 hours on it......... |
"C.M.German" wrote in message ... "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... C.M.German wrote: "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "C.M.German" wrote in message ... Everyone seems to be missing the "new" part of the post. It has less than the 20 hours required for the first warranty review......... It doesn't matter because all it takes is five minutes for some fool to hit something with the prop and cause the hub to spin. This is what they put a hub in the prop for. It spins so the gears and shaft(s) don't break. Look at it this way. You drive a brand new automobile off the lot and then you puncture a tire on a big nail laying in the road. Is the tire covered by warranty? NO! Neither is a prop with a spun hub because they don't spin all by themselves. You hit something. Why not be a man, admit it, and spend 80 bucks to rehub the prop so it teaches you not to be so careless the next time around. CN I can agree with your concept but I must take exception to your implication that anyone who hits something in the water is a fool........ CM Cap'n Neal thinks anyone who lives at a fixed address, bathes regularly, and has more than $20 cash is a fool. Really. With a motor as new as yours, and a spun hub, there is a possibility it was "faulty" from the factory. What does the exterior of the prop look like? Got all its paint? Any dings, nicks, scratches? I would say about 80% of the paint remains, after all, it's only got about 24 hours on it......... If you are sure you did NOT hit anything and want a new prop then carefully remove it. Look behind it and there should be a large washer/fishing line cutter that is large enough in diameter so not only the inner splined part of the prop but the outer part just outside the rubber insert contacts the washer. If one is not there, you have a good warranty claim because it means the dealer failed to install one. If one is there, toss it into the tool box and reinstall the prop. Put the boat back into the water and run it in forward so the prop creeps and starts to contact the gear box bearing housing. Then take it to the dealer and point out what happened and say it's because they left a necessary thrust washer out. CN (author of how to cheat on your warranty) |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... C.M.German wrote: Whats the estimated $$$ damages on spinning a prop on a new merc 50hp or is it warranty work? $75 to $100, but how new? It should be a warranty item if the engine is new. Wrong again, Krause! The warranty covers defects in material and workmanship. A spun hub is usually caused by some fool hitting something with the prop. It's a safety feature built in to keep the gears and or shafts from being damaged. Unless the owner can show where a defect in material or workmanship caused the prop to spin the hub he's totally out of luck when it comes to warranty. CN Knock it off already... Krause is a proven liar, and he has no boat. Would you take car advice from someone who doesn't have a car? Would you take *ANY* advice from a known liar? I have our village idiot Krause in a kill file for a reason, I suggest you do the same. -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
Givg me me a hardon!
"Peter Aitken" wrote in message m... "C.M.German" wrote in message ... if you didn't have to wade through all the dead grass and mud off topic posts to find one pertaining to boating........... only three days here and I think I'll pass to something more relevant... That's the way unmoderated newsgroups are - it's a law of nature I believe! There's useful stuff and good people here if you are willing to wade through the chaff to find them. -- Peter Aitken |
"C.M.German" wrote in message ... "HarryKrause" wrote in message ... C.M.German wrote: "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "C.M.German" wrote in message ... Everyone seems to be missing the "new" part of the post. It has less than the 20 hours required for the first warranty review......... It doesn't matter because all it takes is five minutes for some fool to hit something with the prop and cause the hub to spin. This is what they put a hub in the prop for. It spins so the gears and shaft(s) don't break. Look at it this way. You drive a brand new automobile off the lot and then you puncture a tire on a big nail laying in the road. Is the tire covered by warranty? NO! Neither is a prop with a spun hub because they don't spin all by themselves. You hit something. Why not be a man, admit it, and spend 80 bucks to rehub the prop so it teaches you not to be so careless the next time around. CN I can agree with your concept but I must take exception to your implication that anyone who hits something in the water is a fool........ CM Cap'n Neal thinks anyone who lives at a fixed address, bathes regularly, and has more than $20 cash is a fool. Really. With a motor as new as yours, and a spun hub, there is a possibility it was "faulty" from the factory. What does the exterior of the prop look like? Got all its paint? Any dings, nicks, scratches? I would say about 80% of the paint remains, after all, it's only got about 24 hours on it......... Update............ Returned to the dealer and had 20 hour warranty checkup. They replaced the prop no charge and cleaned plugs rather than replace them. Everything is back in top shape, ready to run. We'll be doing ferry duty to a new project three days next week! Hour and a half out and Hour and a half back.... best part of the job will be the boat ride! Installed new sonar/gps and new mooring cover so I should be all set. |
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