"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:36:41 -0400, "P.Fritz"
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"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
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"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
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Online at: http://politicalaffairs.net/article/...iew/1213/1/99/


Dying in Iraq is not a career choice

By Bud Deraps

6-01-05,9:44am

Completely unknown to these young people, and never discussed by
recruiters, is the fact that of the 580,000 U.S. troops who served in
the
six-week 1991 Gulf War, 11,000 are now dead, and by the year 2000,
325,000 were on permanent medical disability from the depleted uranium
weaponry and the many other toxic and horrifying conditions they were
exposed to.

Wrong, according to The New England Medical journal in a study, the
veterans were healthier than the US general population of the same age
with a LOWER mortality rate than expected.
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/335/20/1498

There was a higher accident rate of 9/1000 than the national average.
Returning veterans that experienced stressful combat conditions have a
higher accident rate. One may speculate that they hold live cheaper
having seen so much death. They take fewer precautions and don't think
that falling from a ladder can kill one as much as a bullet fired by the
enemy, the ladder isn't trying to kill me right?

Also unknown is the fact that over half of those who served in that war
are now parenting children who are born with some birth defect when
previous children were born normal.

Wrong, there is a 2 times increase in infant birth defects as reported
by
vets. So if there are 3/1000 in the general population there are 6/1000
among gulf war vets. This fact is not documented by an independant
study
and may be much lower.



http://deploymentlink.osd.mil/deploy...ts/DoD1C.shtml




The person who wrote this article is either an idiot who can't read or a
lier who has no regard for the truth.

Most likely both.........but it is not surprising harry would use such a
source

Great minds...etc. Should have read your post before writing mine.

You don't even have to have a great mind to see through the crap coming from
harry......only a moron would believe that trash....................which
explains kevin :-)


--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 21:52:16 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:43:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:55:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


Do you have any of the Marine re-enlistment statistics?


http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f...925-886734.php
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That site says nothing about "re-enlistment".


Oops.... missed the "re-" It appears that re-enlistment in the
Marines is up.... an up to $30,000.00 re-enlistment bonus must look
pretty attractive to some .....

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marin...zonebbonus.htm
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyb...orsvsbonus.htm

Hell, that's half of a Grady White! I'd reenlist for that!

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)

"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 21:52:16 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:43:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:55:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


Do you have any of the Marine re-enlistment statistics?


http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f...925-886734.php
--

That site says nothing about "re-enlistment".


Oops.... missed the "re-" It appears that re-enlistment in the
Marines is up.... an up to $30,000.00 re-enlistment bonus must look
pretty attractive to some .....

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marin...zonebbonus.htm
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyb...orsvsbonus.htm

Hell, that's half of a Grady White! I'd reenlist for that!


But only half of a small Grady White! And you might be hard pressed to enjoy
your boat in Iraq.

--
Peter Aitken

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:05:13 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:43:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:55:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


Do you have any of the Marine re-enlistment statistics?


http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f...925-886734.php
--

That site says nothing about "re-enlistment".



Oops.... missed the "re-" It appears that re-enlistment in the
Marines is up.... an up to $30,000.00 re-enlistment bonus must look
pretty attractive to some .....

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marin...zonebbonus.htm
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyb...orsvsbonus.htm



Is that how cheap life has become?

In 1966, a six year reenlistment was worth $1200 *if* one qualified for a higher
level 'Variable Reenlistment Bonus'!

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 22:24:36 GMT, "Peter Aitken" wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 21:52:16 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:43:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:55:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


Do you have any of the Marine re-enlistment statistics?


http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f...925-886734.php
--

That site says nothing about "re-enlistment".


Oops.... missed the "re-" It appears that re-enlistment in the
Marines is up.... an up to $30,000.00 re-enlistment bonus must look
pretty attractive to some .....

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marin...zonebbonus.htm
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyb...orsvsbonus.htm

Hell, that's half of a Grady White! I'd reenlist for that!


But only half of a small Grady White! And you might be hard pressed to enjoy
your boat in Iraq.

All I want is a small GW. It'd keep for a couple years.

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:23:50 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:05:13 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:


Gene Kearns wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:43:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:



"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
om...


On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:55:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:



Do you have any of the Marine re-enlistment statistics?


http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f...925-886734.php
--

That site says nothing about "re-enlistment".



Oops.... missed the "re-" It appears that re-enlistment in the
Marines is up.... an up to $30,000.00 re-enlistment bonus must look
pretty attractive to some .....

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marin...zonebbonus.htm
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyb...orsvsbonus.htm



Is that how cheap life has become?


In 1966, a six year reenlistment was worth $1200 *if* one qualified for a higher
level 'Variable Reenlistment Bonus'!


I guess to some $30,000 seems a sim. But it kinda makes you wonder about
the connection between Bush's open door illegal worker policy and a
military drawn from mostly lower socio-economic classes. Keep the
pressure on them, offer them a few bucks, and send them off to die...no
decent jobs around here anyway, eh?

Find me a country with a better unemployment rate. If none of the jobs are
paying anything, why are house prices increasing about 20% a year? Even the
illegals around here are getting $10-12 an hour for yardwork.


--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:26:37 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 10:37:37 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:


NOYB wrote:

Do you have any of the Marine re-enlistment statistics?

Marine recruiting is down, too. Apparently the message is getting
through even the thickest of skulls.


I thought we had agreed to lay off the wise ass Marine comments.

Thickest of jars? :}

Jarhead is fine.

Later,

Tom

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:43:52 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:23:50 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:


John H wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:05:13 -0400, "Harry.Krause"
wrote:



Gene Kearns wrote:


On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:43:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
news:oaut91dpug2kcsgujpbtsoqtsc9loigqfv@4ax .com...



On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:55:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:




Do you have any of the Marine re-enlistment statistics?


http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f...925-886734.php
--

That site says nothing about "re-enlistment".



Oops.... missed the "re-" It appears that re-enlistment in the
Marines is up.... an up to $30,000.00 re-enlistment bonus must look
pretty attractive to some .....

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marin...zonebbonus.htm
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyb...orsvsbonus.htm



Is that how cheap life has become?


In 1966, a six year reenlistment was worth $1200 *if* one qualified for a higher
level 'Variable Reenlistment Bonus'!


I guess to some $30,000 seems a sim. But it kinda makes you wonder about
the connection between Bush's open door illegal worker policy and a
military drawn from mostly lower socio-economic classes. Keep the
pressure on them, offer them a few bucks, and send them off to die...no
decent jobs around here anyway, eh?


Find me a country with a better unemployment rate. If none of the jobs are
paying anything, why are house prices increasing about 20% a year? Even the
illegals around here are getting $10-12 an hour for yardwork.



A decent job is a job with sufficient pay to support a family modestly,
a job that provides health care benefits, a job that provides some some
or decent retirement. Those are the jobs NOT being created in this country.

But there is plenty of yard work.

If I were in your shoes, and the economy was in the shape it's in, I'd be making
up stuff too.

--
John H
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes (A true binary thinker!)

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:43:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:55:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


Do you have any of the Marine re-enlistment statistics?


http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f...925-886734.php
--

That site says nothing about "re-enlistment".


Oops.... missed the "re-" It appears that re-enlistment in the
Marines is up....


Correct. The guys that are already in the Marines see first-hand the good
that they're doing in the Middle East. They believe in the mission, because
they are living the mission. They're not exposed to the liberal left
mainstream media propaganda machine over here.

"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
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John H wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:23:50 -0400, "Harry.Krause"

wrote:


John H wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:05:13 -0400, "Harry.Krause"

wrote:



Gene Kearns wrote:


On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 16:43:23 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
news:oaut91dpug2kcsgujpbtsoqtsc9loigqfv@4ax .com...



On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:55:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:




Do you have any of the Marine re-enlistment statistics?


http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f...925-886734.php
--

That site says nothing about "re-enlistment".



Oops.... missed the "re-" It appears that re-enlistment in the
Marines is up.... an up to $30,000.00 re-enlistment bonus must look
pretty attractive to some .....

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marin...zonebbonus.htm
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyb...orsvsbonus.htm



Is that how cheap life has become?


In 1966, a six year reenlistment was worth $1200 *if* one qualified for
a higher
level 'Variable Reenlistment Bonus'!


I guess to some $30,000 seems a sim. But it kinda makes you wonder about
the connection between Bush's open door illegal worker policy and a
military drawn from mostly lower socio-economic classes. Keep the
pressure on them, offer them a few bucks, and send them off to die...no
decent jobs around here anyway, eh?


Find me a country with a better unemployment rate. If none of the jobs
are
paying anything, why are house prices increasing about 20% a year? Even
the
illegals around here are getting $10-12 an hour for yardwork.



A decent job is a job with sufficient pay to support a family modestly, a
job that provides health care benefits, a job that provides some some or
decent retirement. Those are the jobs NOT being created in this country.

But there is plenty of yard work.

My yard work guy is about to retire at age 45. His house is paid for, and
it's worth half a million. He also owns several rental properties in Ft.
Myers.

I should have gone into yard work.