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K. Smith May 25th 05 12:29 PM

wrote:
The radio memory only draws a tiny amount, some people hook up an
ordinary 9 volt alkaline battery to keep all the memory things alive
when the system is "off" The 9 volts is enough & one battery should
last
you the season.

*************

Question: If the 9-volt battery should "last a season" wouldn't there
be almost no chance that the radio memory was drawing down the primary
12-volt battery in a week?


Clearly, I didn't say the radio was the issue & don't think it is,
however a few minutes checking methodically will resolve the cause.

A simple check with an elcheapo multimeter (damn there's that evil
foreign imports thing again:-)) will tell you how much the particular
radio memory actually draws, same for the VHF etc etc

A 9 volt battery setup with a diode is the trick for battery
disconnected between uses memory saving, if it doesn't last the "season"
then it doesn't. Most boaters have this setup on board regardless, just
for the usual battery disconnected situations all boats seem to endure;
to avoid the pain of endlessly reprogramming/setting things & that's if
your own memory is still powered up enough to recall the security pin
numbers:-)





K

The Krause lie of they day I hear you asking for??? OK it's not a
repeat; not till my new script starts appending them that is:-)

But I thought you should know something funny about this Krause lie
list, in the early days he went on & on & on about his Hatt 43 & yes
lots of people called him BS till he finally posted a pic of his Hatt 43.

Needless to say this lying grub will stop at nothing in his lame
attempts to be believed as a boater just as he did in the jetski NGs.

Oops so sorry rambling again:-) anyway the really funny bit??? ages
later someone finds the same pic on a Hatt web site!!! yes truly this
lying idiot lifted a pic of a Hatt 43 from a web site then posted it as
his own boat!!!:-)

But there's more!!! get his answer it's almost as funny as him
getting caught red handed, he claimed it was a "sister ship" to his!!!
so that's why he posted the pic as his own boat!!!




Here are some:




Hatteras 43' sportfish
Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop
Morgan 33
O'Day 30
Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22
Century Coronado
Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze.
Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering
Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes
Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers
with various
Evinrudes
Lighting class sailboat
Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat.
Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit)
Alcort Sunfish
Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders.
Guaranteed 60 mph. In the late 1950's.
Skimmar brand skiff
Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider)
Dyer Dhow
Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass
Penn Yan runabouts. Wood.
Old Town wood and canvas canoe
Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe





I own the following boats:


a 36' "lobster" style boat
a 19' center console fishing boat
an 11' inflatable dinghy
1/2 of a canoe


Those are the types of boats I currently own. I'm also in the market for
some interesting kind of lightweight flatbottomed skiff, similar to the
old Skimmar, for the "new" 51-year-old 10 hp outboard I recently bought.


One of the boats is kept on dry land within a half mile of Chesapeake
Bay. One is kept at a private covered boat dock in a little creek off
Chesapeake Bay. One is kept in the backyard of a friend who lives much
closer to the Shenandoah River than I do. And one is kept next to the
36-footer."



Gudmundur May 25th 05 07:53 PM

In article ,
says...


There are a multitude of 12 volt units which don't actually 'turn off'
when you hit the off switch. Many items with a 'soft touch' on/off switch
just go into a sleep mode. Now READ THIS,,, the Radio Shack power inverter
22-138 and all similar inverters DO NOT TURN OFF!!!!! Even when you turn
off the lighted power switch, the inverter is still running!!! Check with
an amp meter on the d.c. input, and no load on the output, you see about
..5 amp draw, ON or OFF!! That will kill a battery in about 2 days. Find
a local ham radio dude that likes to water ski, let him meter your current
draw when everything is off, and in return you can get him some ski time.
If you were close to Wrightsville, Pa. I would do it for you.






Hello all,

I have a Tige 22v riders edition. Great wake boarding boat, we love it.

I have 2 questions - I hope someone can help me out w/.

1. It has a main power off switch in the engine compartment (A twist knob).
Ive noticed that if I dont turn this off at the end of the day and the boat
sits until the next weekend the battery will be dead. I cannot seem to
figure out where the draw is coming from. Ive tuned everything off in the
boat. How can I track down the "leak".

The real pain in the ass thing is each time Im done for the weekend and I
turn the main power knob off - I lose my radio stations each time I do this
which leads me to my next question....

2. The boat has 2 battery compartments. Id like to add a second battery so
the radio works off a seperate battery vs the main one the rest of the boat
uses (ie starter, lights, etc...). (I want it be transparent as well - ie -
I dont want to have to switch some switch) Is there an idiots guide out
there somewhere that shows how to do this? I can pretty much build anything
and am mr fix it so installing something wont be an issue - but for some
reason me and mr electricity dont get along all that well -so a well drawn
out electrical diagram would be really really really good!!

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks




Harry.Krause May 27th 05 09:36 PM

On Tue, 24 May 2005 05:58:21 GMT, "Rob V" wrote:

Hello all,

I have a Tige 22v riders edition. Great wake boarding boat, we love it.


I broke many water sking records behind Tiges. Darn nice ski boats.

Me and the wife
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/harkra...bum?.dir=/1323

tony thomas May 28th 05 03:59 AM

You answered your own question. The radio is killing the battery. This is
a common problem on boats since they tend to sit for long periods of time
between use. Tend to run for short periods of time and be turned off and
cranked a lot. The battery is never really fully charged chances are.

If you truely want the radio to keep the stations then you have two choices.
1. Install 2nd battery and isolator (get one from the auto parts or RV
place).
2. When you get the boat home just hook up a trickle charger to the battery
to keep it fully charged.

The charger is cheaper. But having two batteries on the water has its
advantage as well.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

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"Rob V" wrote in message
. com...
Hello all,

I have a Tige 22v riders edition. Great wake boarding boat, we love it.

I have 2 questions - I hope someone can help me out w/.

1. It has a main power off switch in the engine compartment (A twist
knob). Ive noticed that if I dont turn this off at the end of the day and
the boat sits until the next weekend the battery will be dead. I cannot
seem to figure out where the draw is coming from. Ive tuned everything
off in the boat. How can I track down the "leak".

The real pain in the ass thing is each time Im done for the weekend and I
turn the main power knob off - I lose my radio stations each time I do
this which leads me to my next question....

2. The boat has 2 battery compartments. Id like to add a second battery
so the radio works off a seperate battery vs the main one the rest of the
boat uses (ie starter, lights, etc...). (I want it be transparent as
well - ie - I dont want to have to switch some switch) Is there an idiots
guide out there somewhere that shows how to do this? I can pretty much
build anything and am mr fix it so installing something wont be an issue -
but for some reason me and mr electricity dont get along all that well -so
a well drawn out electrical diagram would be really really really good!!

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks




Franko May 28th 05 07:56 PM

Don't go too cheap on the trickle charger or you'll end up damaging your
battery. An electronic battery maintainer that stops charging, then trickle
charges again when it senses the battery voltage drops below a certain level
is well worth the $30-$35 bucks.

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:e8Rle.15752$g66.9520@attbi_s71...
You answered your own question. The radio is killing the battery. This

is
a common problem on boats since they tend to sit for long periods of time
between use. Tend to run for short periods of time and be turned off and
cranked a lot. The battery is never really fully charged chances are.

If you truely want the radio to keep the stations then you have two

choices.
1. Install 2nd battery and isolator (get one from the auto parts or RV
place).
2. When you get the boat home just hook up a trickle charger to the

battery
to keep it fully charged.

The charger is cheaper. But having two batteries on the water has its
advantage as well.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

-
"Rob V" wrote in message
. com...
Hello all,

I have a Tige 22v riders edition. Great wake boarding boat, we love it.

I have 2 questions - I hope someone can help me out w/.

1. It has a main power off switch in the engine compartment (A twist
knob). Ive noticed that if I dont turn this off at the end of the day

and
the boat sits until the next weekend the battery will be dead. I cannot
seem to figure out where the draw is coming from. Ive tuned everything
off in the boat. How can I track down the "leak".

The real pain in the ass thing is each time Im done for the weekend and

I
turn the main power knob off - I lose my radio stations each time I do
this which leads me to my next question....

2. The boat has 2 battery compartments. Id like to add a second

battery
so the radio works off a seperate battery vs the main one the rest of

the
boat uses (ie starter, lights, etc...). (I want it be transparent as
well - ie - I dont want to have to switch some switch) Is there an

idiots
guide out there somewhere that shows how to do this? I can pretty much
build anything and am mr fix it so installing something wont be an

issue -
but for some reason me and mr electricity dont get along all that

well -so
a well drawn out electrical diagram would be really really really good!!

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks







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