"DSK" wrote in message
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... I remember when President Nixon was elected

Yes I remember that too. I recall he campaigned on a promise to end the
war. 4 years later, it was still going on. In other words, you seem to be
attracted to liars, which is probably why you do it yourself so much.

Read the link, he tried to end the war. Even at the cost of his reputation.
I'm attracted to those who at least try.

And as to lies, I don't knowingly lie. But as a non-perfect entity, I
sometimes don't see or remember things without bias. As to that bias
creaping into statements here, I do check facts when called on by you and
others.

... he mined the harbors in N. Vietnam to keep arms from our allies
(France, Germany, Russia and England) from being delivered to Vietnam.

Jeff Rigby wrote:
Not a lie, look it up
http://www.afa.org/magazine/perspect...383vietnam.asp

Dude, you totally missed the point.

1- Russia was not our ally in 1965 or 1972.
2- Germany, France, and England were not "delivering arms to Vietnam" far
from it in fact... the British had troops there alongside ours, the French
had just finished fighting a war there themselves.

If I remember correctly, the British did have a prohibition against sending
arms but they did send food and materials to the north which was heavily
industrialized (compared to the south). The French were not as picky about
what was sent to north Vietnam (remember this was 7 years or so after they
had pulled out). Also there was a little of what we have now, they wanted to
see us fail, for us to succeed would make them look bad. Russia and China
were sending arms thru the harbor as it was an easier route for many of the
supplies. Sam rockets usually were sent by ship.


WTF would France send arms to communist Vietnam when they had just
finished losing a war against them?


For the same reason they sold nuclear materals to Iraq and Iran, Money.
You should know that.


And do you have *any* slight shred of documentation on that?

No, I looked using google and I can't find any records of shipping traffic
into the harbor. Just what I remember from watching the news in the 70's.

BTW Bush & Rumsfeld have sold weapons to Iraq & Iran, you can find
pictures of Rummy shaking hands with Saddam. So if that makes the French
evil, then add Bush (both Jr & Sr) & Rumsfeld to the list.

Evil, no. Politically expedient Players yes. Remember during that time we
were using "politics" to pit countries against each other. Iran was the
biggest threat at that time so we helped Iraq as they were in a conflict
with Iran.

Bush increased benefits to Vets untill last year.


Lie #3.

SEE: http://www.captaincynic.com/thread.p...465-u-frmid=23

The University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Center stated in a FactCheck,
" Funding for Veterans are going up twice as fast under Bush as it did under
Clinton. And the number of veterans getting health benefits is going up 25%
under Bush's budgets. That's hardly a cut.


Almost the first thing Bush did in office was to authorize cuts to the VA.
He did shift money from programs what were inefficient to those that were
serving more. Recently he has tried to close some of the VA hospitals and
shift that money around.


DSK