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Arden May 10th 05 07:30 PM

best way to get gas to boat
 
I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat. I live on the lake and keep my boat
at my dock. From the driveway to the boat is about 170 feet, all
downhill. I know that I could probably buy a gas caddy (i.e. Gas Pal,
Gas Walker, etc.), but the terrain is kind of rugged and I think it
might not be that easy getting the caddy down the hill safely; esp.
considering how heavy it would be when full. Heck, it's hard enough to
walk up the hill without the caddy. I prefer not to pull the boat out
and tow it to the station; that's what I've been doing, but am looking
for a way to save time). Also, I don't think I could install any kind
of large fuel tank here due to homeowners association restrictions. I
should also mention that the boat has a 25 gallon built-in tank. Since
I drive my Jeep by the gas station regularly anyway, it sure would be
nice if I could find a safe way to pump or siphon fuel from it into the
boat. Suggestions?
Thank-you!!


P.Fritz May 10th 05 07:33 PM


"Arden" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat. I live on the lake and keep my boat
at my dock. From the driveway to the boat is about 170 feet, all
downhill. I know that I could probably buy a gas caddy (i.e. Gas Pal,
Gas Walker, etc.), but the terrain is kind of rugged and I think it
might not be that easy getting the caddy down the hill safely; esp.
considering how heavy it would be when full. Heck, it's hard enough to
walk up the hill without the caddy. I prefer not to pull the boat out
and tow it to the station; that's what I've been doing, but am looking
for a way to save time). Also, I don't think I could install any kind
of large fuel tank here due to homeowners association restrictions. I
should also mention that the boat has a 25 gallon built-in tank. Since
I drive my Jeep by the gas station regularly anyway, it sure would be
nice if I could find a safe way to pump or siphon fuel from it into the
boat. Suggestions?
Thank-you!!


That samll of a tank.......4-5 5gal gas cans.



ed May 10th 05 08:34 PM

Do you have room where you can drive your jeep down close to the boat and
siphon out gas into a 5 gal can and transfer it to the boat that way ?
"Arden" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat. I live on the lake and keep my boat
at my dock. From the driveway to the boat is about 170 feet, all
downhill. I know that I could probably buy a gas caddy (i.e. Gas Pal,
Gas Walker, etc.), but the terrain is kind of rugged and I think it
might not be that easy getting the caddy down the hill safely; esp.
considering how heavy it would be when full. Heck, it's hard enough to
walk up the hill without the caddy. I prefer not to pull the boat out
and tow it to the station; that's what I've been doing, but am looking
for a way to save time). Also, I don't think I could install any kind
of large fuel tank here due to homeowners association restrictions. I
should also mention that the boat has a 25 gallon built-in tank. Since
I drive my Jeep by the gas station regularly anyway, it sure would be
nice if I could find a safe way to pump or siphon fuel from it into the
boat. Suggestions?
Thank-you!!




Mike G May 10th 05 08:38 PM

In article om,
says...
I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat. I live on the lake and keep my boat
at my dock. From the driveway to the boat is about 170 feet, all
downhill. I know that I could probably buy a gas caddy (i.e. Gas Pal,
Gas Walker, etc.), but the terrain is kind of rugged and I think it
might not be that easy getting the caddy down the hill safely; esp.
considering how heavy it would be when full. Heck, it's hard enough to
walk up the hill without the caddy. I prefer not to pull the boat out
and tow it to the station; that's what I've been doing, but am looking
for a way to save time). Also, I don't think I could install any kind
of large fuel tank here due to homeowners association restrictions. I
should also mention that the boat has a 25 gallon built-in tank. Since
I drive my Jeep by the gas station regularly anyway, it sure would be
nice if I could find a safe way to pump or siphon fuel from it into the
boat. Suggestions?
Thank-you!!


Three methods come immediately to mind.

1 - A cloths line type overhead trolly strong enough to carry the weight
of five gallon cans.

2 - An underground tank at the top of the hill with a buried hose
running to a properly valved outlet on the dock.

3 - The most obvious and probably most practical, improve the path down
the hill to the dock.

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods

www.heirloom-woods.net

Del Cecchi May 10th 05 10:54 PM


"Arden" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat. I live on the lake and keep my boat
at my dock. From the driveway to the boat is about 170 feet, all
downhill. I know that I could probably buy a gas caddy (i.e. Gas Pal,
Gas Walker, etc.), but the terrain is kind of rugged and I think it
might not be that easy getting the caddy down the hill safely; esp.
considering how heavy it would be when full. Heck, it's hard enough to
walk up the hill without the caddy. I prefer not to pull the boat out
and tow it to the station; that's what I've been doing, but am looking
for a way to save time). Also, I don't think I could install any kind
of large fuel tank here due to homeowners association restrictions. I
should also mention that the boat has a 25 gallon built-in tank. Since
I drive my Jeep by the gas station regularly anyway, it sure would be
nice if I could find a safe way to pump or siphon fuel from it into the
boat. Suggestions?
Thank-you!!

No place on the lake selling gas? A resort or something?

How about putting the gas cans in the back of the jeep and driving down to
the dock.

Get one of those garden/heavy duty wagons with the big fat tires and put a
couple 5 gallon cans in.

Lay a rail system from the cabin to the dock, I have seen them around our
lake.

del cecchi



JimH May 10th 05 11:13 PM


"Arden" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat.


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Quick, convenient, safe and legal do not always mesh.

Go with the 5 gallon cans carried downhill 170 feet to the boat if you don't
care about refueling safely and conveniently. Heck, why not fill a 55
gallon drum and roll it downhill to the boat....where it stops nobody knows.
That would certainly be more convenient. ;-)

But if you indeed see safety as important then take the boat to a nearby
marina with a gas dock as some have suggested..

If neither option is viable then sell the boat.



tony thomas May 10th 05 11:36 PM

Assuming you can get the Jeep down the hill and back up.
Get you an inexpensive electric fuel pump from the local parts store.
Get a switch, wire, cigerette lighter adapter, hose.

Use the fuel pump to siphen fuel from the jeep (or any vehicle you can get
down to the boat) to the boat.

I know people who do this and it works fine. You can use as much hose as
you like for the most part. The pump will need to be as close as possible
to the Jeep. You can stand at the boat and switch it on and off w/ the
remote switch.

This setup will cost you about $100.00. Saving 50 cents a gallon it will
take 200 gallons to break even over buying it on the water. Plus you have
the agravation of doing this instead of going and filling up somewhere on
the water.
--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

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"Arden" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat. I live on the lake and keep my boat
at my dock. From the driveway to the boat is about 170 feet, all
downhill. I know that I could probably buy a gas caddy (i.e. Gas Pal,
Gas Walker, etc.), but the terrain is kind of rugged and I think it
might not be that easy getting the caddy down the hill safely; esp.
considering how heavy it would be when full. Heck, it's hard enough to
walk up the hill without the caddy. I prefer not to pull the boat out
and tow it to the station; that's what I've been doing, but am looking
for a way to save time). Also, I don't think I could install any kind
of large fuel tank here due to homeowners association restrictions. I
should also mention that the boat has a 25 gallon built-in tank. Since
I drive my Jeep by the gas station regularly anyway, it sure would be
nice if I could find a safe way to pump or siphon fuel from it into the
boat. Suggestions?
Thank-you!!




Gary May 11th 05 02:54 AM

Since it's all down hill, why not take advantage of that. You could buy a
tank to put into your jeep that drains from the bottom and attach a hose
long enough to reach the boat (one that's approved for gas of course) and
put some type of valve on it so that you can turn it on and off and use
gravity to pump the fuel down to your boat.




"Arden" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat. I live on the lake and keep my boat
at my dock. From the driveway to the boat is about 170 feet, all
downhill. I know that I could probably buy a gas caddy (i.e. Gas Pal,
Gas Walker, etc.), but the terrain is kind of rugged and I think it
might not be that easy getting the caddy down the hill safely; esp.
considering how heavy it would be when full. Heck, it's hard enough to
walk up the hill without the caddy. I prefer not to pull the boat out
and tow it to the station; that's what I've been doing, but am looking
for a way to save time). Also, I don't think I could install any kind
of large fuel tank here due to homeowners association restrictions. I
should also mention that the boat has a 25 gallon built-in tank. Since
I drive my Jeep by the gas station regularly anyway, it sure would be
nice if I could find a safe way to pump or siphon fuel from it into the
boat. Suggestions?
Thank-you!!




tony thomas May 11th 05 04:08 AM

Your right. You could just use a hose and let it siphon down the hill.
170' of hose is going to hold a lot of fuel. You better shut it off before
it gets full.
I would not recommend any kind of large external fuel tank though. If you
had a wreck - insurance/liability may be a big problem as the tank is
probably not DOT approved.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

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"Gary" wrote in message
om...
Since it's all down hill, why not take advantage of that. You could buy a
tank to put into your jeep that drains from the bottom and attach a hose
long enough to reach the boat (one that's approved for gas of course) and
put some type of valve on it so that you can turn it on and off and use
gravity to pump the fuel down to your boat.




"Arden" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat. I live on the lake and keep my boat
at my dock. From the driveway to the boat is about 170 feet, all
downhill. I know that I could probably buy a gas caddy (i.e. Gas Pal,
Gas Walker, etc.), but the terrain is kind of rugged and I think it
might not be that easy getting the caddy down the hill safely; esp.
considering how heavy it would be when full. Heck, it's hard enough to
walk up the hill without the caddy. I prefer not to pull the boat out
and tow it to the station; that's what I've been doing, but am looking
for a way to save time). Also, I don't think I could install any kind
of large fuel tank here due to homeowners association restrictions. I
should also mention that the boat has a 25 gallon built-in tank. Since
I drive my Jeep by the gas station regularly anyway, it sure would be
nice if I could find a safe way to pump or siphon fuel from it into the
boat. Suggestions?
Thank-you!!






gudmundur May 11th 05 04:30 AM

In article om,
says...

I'm looking for some advice on a quick, convenient, safe, and legal way
to get gasoline into my ski boat. I live on the lake and keep my boat
at my dock. From the driveway to the boat is about 170 feet, all
downhill. I know that I could probably buy a gas caddy (i.e. Gas Pal,


I used to use my 1948 pickup as my gas caddy. Drive it to the gas station,
then down to the pier, and siphon the truck fuel over to the boat.

A VERY STRONG WARNING,,,, Drive a metal ground rod, and ground your
Jeep with a clamp FIRST, before fueling, and remember that fuel flowing
down the inside of a dry rubber hose can actually generate static energy.

In view of all the soccer moms that blew up while fueling their SUV's
this static point can't be stressed enough. Your Jeep is isolated above
ground by it's rubber tires, and could have many thousands of volts of
static charge referenced to your well grounded boat.



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