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John H March 22nd 04 05:14 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
This must be secret because it hasn't been on any of the news
programs.

************************************************** *******
Class Work Complete, ICDC NCOs Ready to Lead

by Sgt. Susan German. 122nd MPAD

BAGHDAD, Iraq – The Iraqi Civil Defense Corps officially welcomed its
NCO “backbone” during graduation ceremonies for the first Primarily
Leadership Development Course March 11.

The NCOs completed the first class of the Primary Leadership
Development Course conducted in Iraq by the United States Army.

The ceremony was held at the Camp Muleskinner, which is home to the
2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment’s Support Squadron. The regiment is part
of Task Force 1st Armored Division.

One hundred sixteen ICDC soldiers participated in the historic
ceremony. The program followed the U.S. Army’s traditional ceremonial
sequence of events.

It began with the arrival of the official party, which included
members of the cadre, as well as guest speaker Command Sgt. Maj.
Michael Bush, 1st Armored Division command sergeant major.

Following the national anthems of the United States and Iraq, the new
noncommissioned officers recited the NCO creed and charge in their
native language.

“You are the history makers of this great country,” Bush told the
NCOs.

He and Master Sgt. Johnny McKenzie, the NCO academy commandant,
presented diplomas to the soldiers. As they walked through a receiving
line, their chevrons were “wetted down,” following an NCO tradition.

Fifteen Training and Doctrine Command drill sergeants from Fort Sill,
Okla., led the trainees through a 113-hour program of instruction
(POI). The course focused on six areas: leadership, communication
skills, maintenance, professional skills, military training and
military studies. Emphasis was placed on leadership and professional
skills.

Following a strict training schedule, the Iraqi soldiers practiced
drill and ceremony and conducted physical training during the two-week
course. Every classroom had an interpreter and instructional slides
were presented in both English and Arabic. Soldiers were required to
take a written exam and also received periodic counseling to evaluate
their progress.

The initial course was opened up to soldiers serving in senior
leadership positions such as platoon sergeant through sergeant major.
Attendees were recommended for the course by their U.S. Army partners.
Most served in leadership positions to prepare them for attendance in
the class. Medical screening and background checks were conducted
before soldiers reported for class.

“The general theme of the course was “BE KNOW DO.” Three simple words
that the (Iraqi) Soldiers could speak, are easy to remember and when
you apply the concept to the NCO corps, that’s what we expect,” said
Sgt. Maj. David Davenport, the 1AD operations section sergeant major
(G3).

The drill sergeants said they were pleased with the progress made by
their students. They learned basic commands in Arabic, but depended on
interpreters to relay their messages. Drill sergeant Staff Sgt.
Richard George said the cadre ensured that commands were understood
correctly was through repetition of every task.

The respect that the ICDC soldiers had for their instructors became
evident during the post-ceremony celebrations. The new NCOs hoisted
their drill sergeants onto their shoulders while chanting traditional
Iraqi cheers and songs as they carried them around the hall.

The ceremony marked a new beginning for the NCOs and their country as
they assumed leadership positions in their nation’s defense, Davenport
said.

“I’m very excited about it,” Davenport said. “They’re very eager to
assume their new role.”
************************************************** ********

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Don White March 22nd 04 05:37 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 

John H wrote in message
...
This must be secret because it hasn't been on any of the news
programs.

************************************************** *******
Class Work Complete, ICDC NCOs Ready to Lead

by Sgt. Susan German. 122nd MPAD

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The Iraqi Civil Defense Corps officially welcomed its
NCO "backbone" during graduation ceremonies for the first Primarily
Leadership Development Course March 11.

snip


Translation....... more cannon fodder!
Do they print 'Stars & Stripes' in Arabic??



John H March 22nd 04 06:10 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:37:50 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


John H wrote in message
.. .
This must be secret because it hasn't been on any of the news
programs.

************************************************** *******
Class Work Complete, ICDC NCOs Ready to Lead

by Sgt. Susan German. 122nd MPAD

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The Iraqi Civil Defense Corps officially welcomed its
NCO "backbone" during graduation ceremonies for the first Primarily
Leadership Development Course March 11.

snip


Translation....... more cannon fodder!
Do they print 'Stars & Stripes' in Arabic??


Do they print the New York Times in Arabic? What pertinence does the
question have on the issue?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Don White March 22nd 04 07:01 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 

John H wrote in message
...


Do they print the New York Times in Arabic? What pertinence does the
question have on the issue?

John H


Is it possible the army Pr people might be able to do as complete a
brainwash on them as on some American
veterans?



John H March 22nd 04 07:29 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:01:18 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


John H wrote in message
.. .


Do they print the New York Times in Arabic? What pertinence does the
question have on the issue?

John H


Is it possible the army Pr people might be able to do as complete a
brainwash on them as on some American
veterans?

I suppose there's an allegation of something in there somewhere, but
it's over my head. Help me out here, I'm more into the straightforward
type stuff.

Are you implying that the article I posted about Iraqi NCOs is some
type of "brainwashing?" Do you think Sgt. Susan German is into
brainwashing? Or could she just be reporting a positive piece of news
about Iraq? Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Wayne.B March 22nd 04 07:51 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:29:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?


==============================================

Frankly John, I think there are quite a few of us who would prefer not
to hear about it in THIS news group. You started out here as a fairly
straight guy who liked to talk about boats, fishing and the
Chesapeake, all suitable topics of course.

Lately, you seem to have lost your way somewhere and ended up aground
in OT marsh.

Just my 2 cents worth.


John H March 22nd 04 08:06 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:51:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:29:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?


==============================================

Frankly John, I think there are quite a few of us who would prefer not
to hear about it in THIS news group. You started out here as a fairly
straight guy who liked to talk about boats, fishing and the
Chesapeake, all suitable topics of course.

Lately, you seem to have lost your way somewhere and ended up aground
in OT marsh.

Just my 2 cents worth.


Yup, you're probably right. Too much free time lately.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Joe Parsons March 22nd 04 08:18 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:06:03 -0500, John H wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:51:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:29:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?


==============================================

Frankly John, I think there are quite a few of us who would prefer not
to hear about it in THIS news group. You started out here as a fairly
straight guy who liked to talk about boats, fishing and the
Chesapeake, all suitable topics of course.

Lately, you seem to have lost your way somewhere and ended up aground
in OT marsh.

Just my 2 cents worth.


Yup, you're probably right. Too much free time lately.


John, here's a suggestion: no matter what the weather, get out on the water.

Then, I guarantee, the pettiness and animosity that has been pervading this
newsgroup for months will fade from your perception--and you won't feel like
contributing to it in any way. :) --note smiley

Me, I've just come back from 8 days on the high seas, half of which was in the
beautiful Sea of Cortez, and all of which was spent being shamelessly catered
to.

I can highly recommend Celebrity--but they wouldn't let me drive the damn boat!
I even brought my own GPS.

Joe Parsons


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



Don White March 22nd 04 08:38 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 

John H wrote in message
...
Are you implying that the article I posted about Iraqi NCOs is some
type of "brainwashing?" Do you think Sgt. Susan German is into
brainwashing? Or could she just be reporting a positive piece of news
about Iraq? Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?

John H

Sorry...I came of age during the Vietnam era. I just don't believe most of
what the military says.
Call me cynical if you want.



John H March 22nd 04 08:46 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:18:21 GMT, Joe Parsons
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:06:03 -0500, John H wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:51:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:29:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?

============================================= =

Frankly John, I think there are quite a few of us who would prefer not
to hear about it in THIS news group. You started out here as a fairly
straight guy who liked to talk about boats, fishing and the
Chesapeake, all suitable topics of course.

Lately, you seem to have lost your way somewhere and ended up aground
in OT marsh.

Just my 2 cents worth.


Yup, you're probably right. Too much free time lately.


John, here's a suggestion: no matter what the weather, get out on the water.

Then, I guarantee, the pettiness and animosity that has been pervading this
newsgroup for months will fade from your perception--and you won't feel like
contributing to it in any way. :) --note smiley

Me, I've just come back from 8 days on the high seas, half of which was in the
beautiful Sea of Cortez, and all of which was spent being shamelessly catered
to.

I can highly recommend Celebrity--but they wouldn't let me drive the damn boat!
I even brought my own GPS.

Joe Parsons


I can't get on the water until April 1st. My boat is in a boatel, way
back at the end on the highest rack. The marina has filled the open
area with boats from slips and won't have them all out until late
March. It's driving me crazy. But I knew the deal when I signed on the
dotted line, so I can't bitch too much.

Your trip sounds wonderful. The wife and I are going to Holland during
the last of April for a couple weeks. That will be fun, but not like a
cruise. I've been thinking of a cruise up to Alaska one of these days
when she retires. We'll see.

I'll try to be good for a while.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Joe Parsons March 22nd 04 08:54 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:46:36 -0500, John H wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:18:21 GMT, Joe Parsons
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:06:03 -0500, John H wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:51:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:29:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?

============================================ ==

Frankly John, I think there are quite a few of us who would prefer not
to hear about it in THIS news group. You started out here as a fairly
straight guy who liked to talk about boats, fishing and the
Chesapeake, all suitable topics of course.

Lately, you seem to have lost your way somewhere and ended up aground
in OT marsh.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Yup, you're probably right. Too much free time lately.


John, here's a suggestion: no matter what the weather, get out on the water.

Then, I guarantee, the pettiness and animosity that has been pervading this
newsgroup for months will fade from your perception--and you won't feel like
contributing to it in any way. :) --note smiley

Me, I've just come back from 8 days on the high seas, half of which was in the
beautiful Sea of Cortez, and all of which was spent being shamelessly catered
to.

I can highly recommend Celebrity--but they wouldn't let me drive the damn boat!
I even brought my own GPS.

Joe Parsons


I can't get on the water until April 1st. My boat is in a boatel, way
back at the end on the highest rack. The marina has filled the open
area with boats from slips and won't have them all out until late
March. It's driving me crazy. But I knew the deal when I signed on the
dotted line, so I can't bitch too much.


And yet, here you are, bitching too much! (kidding...kidding!)

Then go out to the marina with food and beverage of your choice, possibly
something to smoke (I enjoyed some of Fidel's finest while in Mexico) and gaze
longingly at other people's boats. Think of it as foreplay.

Your trip sounds wonderful. The wife and I are going to Holland during
the last of April for a couple weeks. That will be fun, but not like a
cruise. I've been thinking of a cruise up to Alaska one of these days
when she retires. We'll see.


Why wait? We had an excellent experience with Cruise.com and with Celebrity. I
did come to believe the rule of thumb about the cost, though--it's easy to
double the cost of your cruise with the "extras" like beverages, massages and
such.

But it was SO worth it!

I'll try to be good for a while.


Good plan!

Joe Parsons


Harry Krause March 22nd 04 09:57 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
Don White wrote:
John H wrote in message
...

Are you implying that the article I posted about Iraqi NCOs is some
type of "brainwashing?" Do you think Sgt. Susan German is into
brainwashing? Or could she just be reporting a positive piece of news
about Iraq? Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?

John H


Sorry...I came of age during the Vietnam era. I just don't believe most of
what the military says.
Call me cynical if you want.




Most of the military pr crap that herring posts here isn't news by any
news organization's standards, which is why hardly any legit news
outlets pick it up.

Lawrence James March 22nd 04 11:04 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
Take your ****ing off topic crap about bush the idiot elsewhere.

"John H" wrote in message
...
This must be secret because it hasn't been on any of the news
programs.

************************************************** *******
Class Work Complete, ICDC NCOs Ready to Lead

by Sgt. Susan German. 122nd MPAD

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The Iraqi Civil Defense Corps officially welcomed its
NCO "backbone" during graduation ceremonies for the first Primarily
Leadership Development Course March 11.

The NCOs completed the first class of the Primary Leadership
Development Course conducted in Iraq by the United States Army.

The ceremony was held at the Camp Muleskinner, which is home to the
2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment's Support Squadron. The regiment is part
of Task Force 1st Armored Division.

One hundred sixteen ICDC soldiers participated in the historic
ceremony. The program followed the U.S. Army's traditional ceremonial
sequence of events.

It began with the arrival of the official party, which included
members of the cadre, as well as guest speaker Command Sgt. Maj.
Michael Bush, 1st Armored Division command sergeant major.

Following the national anthems of the United States and Iraq, the new
noncommissioned officers recited the NCO creed and charge in their
native language.

"You are the history makers of this great country," Bush told the
NCOs.

He and Master Sgt. Johnny McKenzie, the NCO academy commandant,
presented diplomas to the soldiers. As they walked through a receiving
line, their chevrons were "wetted down," following an NCO tradition.

Fifteen Training and Doctrine Command drill sergeants from Fort Sill,
Okla., led the trainees through a 113-hour program of instruction
(POI). The course focused on six areas: leadership, communication
skills, maintenance, professional skills, military training and
military studies. Emphasis was placed on leadership and professional
skills.

Following a strict training schedule, the Iraqi soldiers practiced
drill and ceremony and conducted physical training during the two-week
course. Every classroom had an interpreter and instructional slides
were presented in both English and Arabic. Soldiers were required to
take a written exam and also received periodic counseling to evaluate
their progress.

The initial course was opened up to soldiers serving in senior
leadership positions such as platoon sergeant through sergeant major.
Attendees were recommended for the course by their U.S. Army partners.
Most served in leadership positions to prepare them for attendance in
the class. Medical screening and background checks were conducted
before soldiers reported for class.

"The general theme of the course was "BE KNOW DO." Three simple words
that the (Iraqi) Soldiers could speak, are easy to remember and when
you apply the concept to the NCO corps, that's what we expect," said
Sgt. Maj. David Davenport, the 1AD operations section sergeant major
(G3).

The drill sergeants said they were pleased with the progress made by
their students. They learned basic commands in Arabic, but depended on
interpreters to relay their messages. Drill sergeant Staff Sgt.
Richard George said the cadre ensured that commands were understood
correctly was through repetition of every task.

The respect that the ICDC soldiers had for their instructors became
evident during the post-ceremony celebrations. The new NCOs hoisted
their drill sergeants onto their shoulders while chanting traditional
Iraqi cheers and songs as they carried them around the hall.

The ceremony marked a new beginning for the NCOs and their country as
they assumed leadership positions in their nation's defense, Davenport
said.

"I'm very excited about it," Davenport said. "They're very eager to
assume their new role."
************************************************** ********

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




John H March 22nd 04 11:07 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 23:04:01 GMT, "Lawrence James"
wrote:

Take your ****ing off topic crap about bush the idiot elsewhere.

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
This must be secret because it hasn't been on any of the news
programs.

************************************************** *******
Class Work Complete, ICDC NCOs Ready to Lead

by Sgt. Susan German. 122nd MPAD

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The Iraqi Civil Defense Corps officially welcomed its
NCO "backbone" during graduation ceremonies for the first Primarily
Leadership Development Course March 11.

The NCOs completed the first class of the Primary Leadership
Development Course conducted in Iraq by the United States Army.

The ceremony was held at the Camp Muleskinner, which is home to the
2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment's Support Squadron. The regiment is part
of Task Force 1st Armored Division.

One hundred sixteen ICDC soldiers participated in the historic
ceremony. The program followed the U.S. Army's traditional ceremonial
sequence of events.

It began with the arrival of the official party, which included
members of the cadre, as well as guest speaker Command Sgt. Maj.
Michael Bush, 1st Armored Division command sergeant major.

Following the national anthems of the United States and Iraq, the new
noncommissioned officers recited the NCO creed and charge in their
native language.

"You are the history makers of this great country," Bush told the
NCOs.

He and Master Sgt. Johnny McKenzie, the NCO academy commandant,
presented diplomas to the soldiers. As they walked through a receiving
line, their chevrons were "wetted down," following an NCO tradition.

Fifteen Training and Doctrine Command drill sergeants from Fort Sill,
Okla., led the trainees through a 113-hour program of instruction
(POI). The course focused on six areas: leadership, communication
skills, maintenance, professional skills, military training and
military studies. Emphasis was placed on leadership and professional
skills.

Following a strict training schedule, the Iraqi soldiers practiced
drill and ceremony and conducted physical training during the two-week
course. Every classroom had an interpreter and instructional slides
were presented in both English and Arabic. Soldiers were required to
take a written exam and also received periodic counseling to evaluate
their progress.

The initial course was opened up to soldiers serving in senior
leadership positions such as platoon sergeant through sergeant major.
Attendees were recommended for the course by their U.S. Army partners.
Most served in leadership positions to prepare them for attendance in
the class. Medical screening and background checks were conducted
before soldiers reported for class.

"The general theme of the course was "BE KNOW DO." Three simple words
that the (Iraqi) Soldiers could speak, are easy to remember and when
you apply the concept to the NCO corps, that's what we expect," said
Sgt. Maj. David Davenport, the 1AD operations section sergeant major
(G3).

The drill sergeants said they were pleased with the progress made by
their students. They learned basic commands in Arabic, but depended on
interpreters to relay their messages. Drill sergeant Staff Sgt.
Richard George said the cadre ensured that commands were understood
correctly was through repetition of every task.

The respect that the ICDC soldiers had for their instructors became
evident during the post-ceremony celebrations. The new NCOs hoisted
their drill sergeants onto their shoulders while chanting traditional
Iraqi cheers and songs as they carried them around the hall.

The ceremony marked a new beginning for the NCOs and their country as
they assumed leadership positions in their nation's defense, Davenport
said.

"I'm very excited about it," Davenport said. "They're very eager to
assume their new role."
************************************************** ********

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Wrong Bush.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Bill March 23rd 04 02:43 AM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
Here goes Harry again talking all that liberal crap again. He seems to think
the liberal news media is telling the truth. He believes everything they are
saying about the war in Iraq is true. He lives in a Democratic Sand bucket.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
John H wrote in message
...

Are you implying that the article I posted about Iraqi NCOs is some
type of "brainwashing?" Do you think Sgt. Susan German is into
brainwashing? Or could she just be reporting a positive piece of news
about Iraq? Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?

John H


Sorry...I came of age during the Vietnam era. I just don't believe

most of
what the military says.
Call me cynical if you want.




Most of the military pr crap that herring posts here isn't news by any
news organization's standards, which is why hardly any legit news
outlets pick it up.




basskisser March 23rd 04 12:54 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
"Bill" wrote in message ...
Here goes Harry again talking all that liberal crap again. He seems to think
the liberal news media is telling the truth.


As opposed to the BushCo spinners, who always tell the truth, right?


He believes everything they are
saying about the war in Iraq is true.


What has the liberal media said about Iraq that is not true? Where ARE
those pesky weapons of mass destruction, anyway?

Bill March 24th 04 03:21 AM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message

...
Here goes Harry again talking all that liberal crap again. He seems to

think
the liberal news media is telling the truth.


As opposed to the BushCo spinners, who always tell the truth, right?


He believes everything they are
saying about the war in Iraq is true.


What has the liberal media said about Iraq that is not true? Where ARE
those pesky weapons of mass destruction, anyway?


He used them all on his own people. Oh if this is all you have on the war I
think YOU NEED TO SHUT UP. That I all I have been hearing from all you
L-babies. If you Believe the liberal news media I have a brand new Checkmate
23 foot boat I will sell you for a dollar..Yea Right Let me know if you want
it...asskisser



Bill March 24th 04 03:48 AM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
Took the words right out of my mouth James...


"Lawrence James" wrote in message
k.net...
Take your ****ing off topic crap about bush the idiot elsewhere.

"John H" wrote in message
...
This must be secret because it hasn't been on any of the news
programs.

************************************************** *******
Class Work Complete, ICDC NCOs Ready to Lead

by Sgt. Susan German. 122nd MPAD

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The Iraqi Civil Defense Corps officially welcomed its
NCO "backbone" during graduation ceremonies for the first Primarily
Leadership Development Course March 11.

The NCOs completed the first class of the Primary Leadership
Development Course conducted in Iraq by the United States Army.

The ceremony was held at the Camp Muleskinner, which is home to the
2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment's Support Squadron. The regiment is part
of Task Force 1st Armored Division.

One hundred sixteen ICDC soldiers participated in the historic
ceremony. The program followed the U.S. Army's traditional ceremonial
sequence of events.

It began with the arrival of the official party, which included
members of the cadre, as well as guest speaker Command Sgt. Maj.
Michael Bush, 1st Armored Division command sergeant major.

Following the national anthems of the United States and Iraq, the new
noncommissioned officers recited the NCO creed and charge in their
native language.

"You are the history makers of this great country," Bush told the
NCOs.

He and Master Sgt. Johnny McKenzie, the NCO academy commandant,
presented diplomas to the soldiers. As they walked through a receiving
line, their chevrons were "wetted down," following an NCO tradition.

Fifteen Training and Doctrine Command drill sergeants from Fort Sill,
Okla., led the trainees through a 113-hour program of instruction
(POI). The course focused on six areas: leadership, communication
skills, maintenance, professional skills, military training and
military studies. Emphasis was placed on leadership and professional
skills.

Following a strict training schedule, the Iraqi soldiers practiced
drill and ceremony and conducted physical training during the two-week
course. Every classroom had an interpreter and instructional slides
were presented in both English and Arabic. Soldiers were required to
take a written exam and also received periodic counseling to evaluate
their progress.

The initial course was opened up to soldiers serving in senior
leadership positions such as platoon sergeant through sergeant major.
Attendees were recommended for the course by their U.S. Army partners.
Most served in leadership positions to prepare them for attendance in
the class. Medical screening and background checks were conducted
before soldiers reported for class.

"The general theme of the course was "BE KNOW DO." Three simple words
that the (Iraqi) Soldiers could speak, are easy to remember and when
you apply the concept to the NCO corps, that's what we expect," said
Sgt. Maj. David Davenport, the 1AD operations section sergeant major
(G3).

The drill sergeants said they were pleased with the progress made by
their students. They learned basic commands in Arabic, but depended on
interpreters to relay their messages. Drill sergeant Staff Sgt.
Richard George said the cadre ensured that commands were understood
correctly was through repetition of every task.

The respect that the ICDC soldiers had for their instructors became
evident during the post-ceremony celebrations. The new NCOs hoisted
their drill sergeants onto their shoulders while chanting traditional
Iraqi cheers and songs as they carried them around the hall.

The ceremony marked a new beginning for the NCOs and their country as
they assumed leadership positions in their nation's defense, Davenport
said.

"I'm very excited about it," Davenport said. "They're very eager to
assume their new role."
************************************************** ********

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!






basskisser March 24th 04 06:36 PM

Some secret Off-Topic good news.
 
"Bill" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message

...
Here goes Harry again talking all that liberal crap again. He seems to

think
the liberal news media is telling the truth.


As opposed to the BushCo spinners, who always tell the truth, right?


He believes everything they are
saying about the war in Iraq is true.


What has the liberal media said about Iraq that is not true? Where ARE
those pesky weapons of mass destruction, anyway?


He used them all on his own people. Oh if this is all you have on the war I
think YOU NEED TO SHUT UP. That I all I have been hearing from all you
L-babies. If you Believe the liberal news media I have a brand new Checkmate
23 foot boat I will sell you for a dollar.


What an intelligent sounding post...NOT!! Again, please answer this:
What has the "liberal media" said about the Iraq war that is not true?

basskisser March 24th 04 06:38 PM

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"Bill" wrote in message ...
Here goes Harry again talking all that liberal crap again. He seems to think
the liberal news media is telling the truth. He believes everything they are
saying about the war in Iraq is true. He lives in a Democratic Sand bucket.


If you know so damned much, prove him different.

Henry Blackmoore March 25th 04 05:22 PM

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In article , "Don White" wrote:


John H wrote in message
.. .
Are you implying that the article I posted about Iraqi NCOs is some
type of "brainwashing?" Do you think Sgt. Susan German is into
brainwashing? Or could she just be reporting a positive piece of news
about Iraq? Do you believe that there is *nothing* good happening in
Iraq, or does it just upset you to *hear* about it?

John H

Sorry...I came of age during the Vietnam era. I just don't believe most of
what the military says.
Call me cynical if you want.


But you suck up all of what the United Nations tells you though eh?

Cynical wouldn't be my term for describing you....



Bill March 26th 04 12:20 AM

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"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message

...
Here goes Harry again talking all that liberal crap again. He seems

to
think
the liberal news media is telling the truth.

As opposed to the BushCo spinners, who always tell the truth, right?


He believes everything they are
saying about the war in Iraq is true.

What has the liberal media said about Iraq that is not true? Where ARE
those pesky weapons of mass destruction, anyway?


He used them all on his own people. Oh if this is all you have on the

war I
think YOU NEED TO SHUT UP. That I all I have been hearing from all you
L-babies. If you Believe the liberal news media I have a brand new

Checkmate
23 foot boat I will sell you for a dollar.


What an intelligent sounding post...NOT!! Again, please answer this:
What has the "liberal media" said about the Iraq war that is not true?


I tell you what asskisser when you have a son over their and you have people
Bash our President and putting our solders in harm's way. When you do then I
will shut up. Until then you Shut then F%$K UP... All the media is doing is
Bashing the President every day. They hate him so much that they are will to
let this country go down the tubes. Bush made the world safer, even though
you might not think so. Just look at Libya, North Korea, and Now look at
what is happening over in Israel. The Humus Group said they would not do
anything to Americans. This is because they know that we will Kick their
ass. We now have a President that has Dignity and Honor. More then what I
can say what you L-babies had.....
Oh and My son is in the 2nd BDE 1-26 Inf BN with the 1st ID In Iraq



John H March 26th 04 12:42 AM

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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 18:20:03 -0600, "Bill" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
. com...
"Bill" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message
...
Here goes Harry again talking all that liberal crap again. He seems

to
think
the liberal news media is telling the truth.

As opposed to the BushCo spinners, who always tell the truth, right?


He believes everything they are
saying about the war in Iraq is true.

What has the liberal media said about Iraq that is not true? Where ARE
those pesky weapons of mass destruction, anyway?

He used them all on his own people. Oh if this is all you have on the

war I
think YOU NEED TO SHUT UP. That I all I have been hearing from all you
L-babies. If you Believe the liberal news media I have a brand new

Checkmate
23 foot boat I will sell you for a dollar.


What an intelligent sounding post...NOT!! Again, please answer this:
What has the "liberal media" said about the Iraq war that is not true?


I tell you what asskisser when you have a son over their and you have people
Bash our President and putting our solders in harm's way. When you do then I
will shut up. Until then you Shut then F%$K UP... All the media is doing is
Bashing the President every day. They hate him so much that they are will to
let this country go down the tubes. Bush made the world safer, even though
you might not think so. Just look at Libya, North Korea, and Now look at
what is happening over in Israel. The Humus Group said they would not do
anything to Americans. This is because they know that we will Kick their
ass. We now have a President that has Dignity and Honor. More then what I
can say what you L-babies had.....
Oh and My son is in the 2nd BDE 1-26 Inf BN with the 1st ID In Iraq


Don't let it bug you, Bill. Keep the source in mind.

Hope your son is doing well. My son-in-law just returned about six
weeks ago. We were damn glad to see him. Of course my daughter is
expecting again! Must be something in that Iraqi water.

Do you have email contact with your son at all? Ben, the son-in-law
was thrilled anytime we could send him a picture. He didn't have time
for fancy responses, but every so often he'd let us know how much they
meant to him.

Good luck to him. He, along with a lot of others are doing work they
can be proud of. It's a damn shame none of the good news stuff ever
makes the papers, 'cause there's a lot of good stuff being done.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser March 26th 04 01:00 PM

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"Bill" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message

...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message

...
Here goes Harry again talking all that liberal crap again. He seems

to
think
the liberal news media is telling the truth.

As opposed to the BushCo spinners, who always tell the truth, right?


He believes everything they are
saying about the war in Iraq is true.

What has the liberal media said about Iraq that is not true? Where ARE
those pesky weapons of mass destruction, anyway?

He used them all on his own people. Oh if this is all you have on the

war I
think YOU NEED TO SHUT UP. That I all I have been hearing from all you
L-babies. If you Believe the liberal news media I have a brand new

Checkmate
23 foot boat I will sell you for a dollar.


What an intelligent sounding post...NOT!! Again, please answer this:
What has the "liberal media" said about the Iraq war that is not true?


I tell you what asskisser when you have a son over their and you have people
Bash our President and putting our solders in harm's way. When you do then I
will shut up. Until then you Shut then F%$K UP... All the media is doing is
Bashing the President every day. They hate him so much that they are will to
let this country go down the tubes. Bush made the world safer, even though
you might not think so. Just look at Libya, North Korea, and Now look at
what is happening over in Israel. The Humus Group said they would not do
anything to Americans. This is because they know that we will Kick their
ass. We now have a President that has Dignity and Honor. More then what I
can say what you L-babies had.....
Oh and My son is in the 2nd BDE 1-26 Inf BN with the 1st ID In Iraq


So, I take it that you can't tell me what the "liberal media" has said
about Iraq that is not true. How has Bush made the world safer? He
went after Saddam, and his cardboard drones. The person that
masterminded 911? He's still in operation. Now, I feel for your son,
don't get me wrong. I'd even feel for him if he were fighting a war
worth fighting, as opposed to fighting a war because the president's
daddy wanted revenge. As far as Bush having dignity and honor, I"m
sorry, he's a dolt. How can you say a man has honor when he went to
war over, let's see, what was it? WMD's....no, that was wrong....
Saddam's involvement with 911?...nope...wait.....oh, I know, he's a
bad person, and daddy don't like him.

Bill March 30th 04 03:04 AM

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I tell you what asskisser when you have a son over their and you have

people
Bash our President and putting our solders in harm's way. When you do

then I
will shut up. Until then you Shut then F%$K UP... All the media is doing

is
Bashing the President every day. They hate him so much that they are

will to
let this country go down the tubes. Bush made the world safer, even

though
you might not think so. Just look at Libya, North Korea, and Now look at
what is happening over in Israel. The Humus Group said they would not do
anything to Americans. This is because they know that we will Kick their
ass. We now have a President that has Dignity and Honor. More then what

I
can say what you L-babies had.....
Oh and My son is in the 2nd BDE 1-26 Inf BN with the 1st ID In Iraq


So, I take it that you can't tell me what the "liberal media" has said
about Iraq that is not true. How has Bush made the world safer? He
went after Saddam, and his cardboard drones. The person that
masterminded 911? He's still in operation. Now, I feel for your son,
don't get me wrong. I'd even feel for him if he were fighting a war
worth fighting, as opposed to fighting a war because the president's
daddy wanted revenge. As far as Bush having dignity and honor, I"m
sorry, he's a dolt. How can you say a man has honor when he went to
war over, let's see, what was it? WMD's....no, that was wrong....
Saddam's involvement with 911?...nope...wait.....oh, I know, he's a
bad person, and daddy don't like him.



Yea Asskisser
We DID NOT go to war over Weapons of Mass Destructing. We went to war
because Saddam would not turn over the details of what WMDs he had or did
not have. 17 resolution the UN Did not care about or did not have the BALLs
to do anything about. This is what the "liberal media" wants to think that
it was WMD alone. You and Harry are the same. All you can do is do what
these LBabies tell you what to think and what to say. You Can't think on
your own so you follow the what they tell you to follow. If you think we
went to war in Iraq is over WMD I think you need to get your head out of
the Democratic Bull ****. Oh you ask how did Bush make the world safer just
read the papers or watch the News but you have to think when you watch
because you have to look close for the Truth. If what Kerry is saying about
foreign Leaders wanting him to win just look at which leaders they are.
We now have a President that has HORNER DIGNITY AND COURAGE ( Think you
might need a dictionary to look up these words) more then anything running
on the other ticket. The only thing John Kerry can talk about is that he is
a Vietnam Veteran but he agreed with Jane Fonda when he came back to the
states. Did he stand up for the rest of the veterans that come back Hell NO.
He just jump on the band wagon to criticized them. So he could run for
senator with his other Lbabies buddies like the Kennedy's. Oh and don't
forget that it took him 12 hours to report an car crash (Kennedy that is).
So if you base you belief's on the Democratic party will then their is
nothing else I can say to you. But if you watch the Fox news you might see
the fog lift someday. I would like to think their is still hope for you.



basskisser March 30th 04 02:09 PM

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"Bill" wrote in message
Yea Asskisser
We DID NOT go to war over Weapons of Mass Destructing.


Then we were lied to. Bush said over and over, that Saddam has weapons
of mass destruction, and we need to go to war to get rid of them.

We went to war
because Saddam would not turn over the details of what WMDs he had or did
not have. 17 resolution the UN Did not care about or did not have the BALLs
to do anything about. This is what the "liberal media" wants to think that
it was WMD alone.

The liberal media?? I listened to Bush, in a state of the union
address, state, without a doubt, Saddam has weapons of mass
destruction, and we must get them before he uses the.

You and Harry are the same.

Nah, we're quite different, actually.

All you can do is do what
these LBabies tell you what to think and what to say. You Can't think on
your own so you follow the what they tell you to follow.


Hmm, let's see. A rightie, who no matter how terrible a job the chimp
in chief is doing, goose steps to the party, and calls everybody else
LBabies, traitors, etc. And you think liberals can't think on there
own? If it weren't so silly, I'd say it was funny.



If you think we
went to war in Iraq is over WMD I think you need to get your head out of
the Democratic Bull ****.


Again, Bush in a state of the union address....was THAT democratic
bull ****?

Oh you ask how did Bush make the world safer just
read the papers or watch the News but you have to think when you watch
because you have to look close for the Truth. If what Kerry is saying about
foreign Leaders wanting him to win just look at which leaders they are.
We now have a President that has HORNER DIGNITY AND COURAGE


I think you've been listening to Hannity too much.

Bill April 1st 04 07:54 AM

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"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message
Yea Asskisser
We DID NOT go to war over Weapons of Mass Destructing.


Then we were lied to. Bush said over and over, that Saddam has weapons
of mass destruction, and we need to go to war to get rid of them.


Sorry that was Clinton and his assholes. But you can't blame him. All he
could do was bomb an aspirin factory because he had Monica under is desk. He
was the one that started putting the media on the WMDs. Maybe it was all a
lie then too. Maybe he needed some distraction to cover-up the **** he was
doing. Like lying in a court hearing and to the public (I NEVER HAD SEX and
what is IS). Does this ring any bells? Oh and remember when Madelyn Albright
was on the college campus holding the town meeting trying to convince the
college students and the nation that Iraq had WMDs. So don't tell me that
Bush Lied. You would not know the truth if came you to you and Bit you in
the ASS.




We went to war
because Saddam would not turn over the details of what WMDs he had or

did
not have. 17 resolution the UN Did not care about or did not have the

BALLs
to do anything about. This is what the "liberal media" wants to think

that
it was WMD alone.

The liberal media?? I listened to Bush, in a state of the union
address, state, without a doubt, Saddam has weapons of mass
destruction, and we must get them before he uses the.

You and Harry are the same.

Nah, we're quite different, actually.

All you can do is do what
these LBabies tell you what to think and what to say. You Can't think on
your own so you follow the what they tell you to follow.


Hmm, let's see. A rightie, who no matter how terrible a job the chimp
in chief is doing, goose steps to the party, and calls everybody else
LBabies, traitors, etc. And you think liberals can't think on there
own? If it weren't so silly, I'd say it was funny.



If you think we
went to war in Iraq is over WMD I think you need to get your head out

of
the Democratic Bull ****.


Again, Bush in a state of the union address....was THAT democratic
bull ****?

Oh you ask how did Bush make the world safer just
read the papers or watch the News but you have to think when you watch
because you have to look close for the Truth. If what Kerry is saying

about
foreign Leaders wanting him to win just look at which leaders they are.
We now have a President that has HORNER DIGNITY AND COURAGE


I think you've been listening to Hannity too much.




basskisser April 1st 04 01:40 PM

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"Bill" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Bill" wrote in message
Yea Asskisser
We DID NOT go to war over Weapons of Mass Destructing.


Then we were lied to. Bush said over and over, that Saddam has weapons
of mass destruction, and we need to go to war to get rid of them.


Sorry that was Clinton and his assholes.


Really? Perhaps you didn't watch any news, or watch Bush's state of
the union address, or listen to Cheney's speeches, or Powell's. They
all explicitely stated that we must go after Saddam because he was
manufacturing, and storing weapons of mass destruction. Do you not
remember that?

Bill April 7th 04 01:16 AM

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"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Bill" wrote in message

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"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Bill" wrote in message
Yea Asskisser
We DID NOT go to war over Weapons of Mass Destructing.

Then we were lied to. Bush said over and over, that Saddam has weapons
of mass destruction, and we need to go to war to get rid of them.


Sorry that was Clinton and his assholes.


Really? Perhaps you didn't watch any news, or watch Bush's state of
the union address, or listen to Cheney's speeches, or Powell's. They
all explicitely stated that we must go after Saddam because he was
manufacturing, and storing weapons of mass destruction. Do you not
remember that?


Yea that was from the Clinton era and his assholes. You are right about one
thing. He should have never kept that lying s.o.b Clark on staff. So I guess
you believe all what he says now since he is bashing Bush. Just like Kerry
it depends which audience he is talking too. Oh and He Never has told a lie?
Like to the 911 panel. He has done nothing but contradicted himself. He
tells what he wrote in his book then says something else.




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