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Bill Kiene March 13th 04 07:37 AM

Boats in FL
 
I just spent 3 weeks in FL visiting our grandkids.

I never saw so many boats and boat dealers and water.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com




Bchbound March 13th 04 01:28 PM

Boats in FL
 
In article ,
says...
I just spent 3 weeks in FL visiting our grandkids.

I never saw so many boats and boat dealers and water.


Yes there is alot of water down there. Just dont go inland. SW Florida is
great for year round boating as I guess also SE Florida is. Wanna see
water? Drive to Key West.

RichG March 13th 04 01:43 PM

Boats in FL
 
Yea, boating and fishing is an "accepted norm" in FL. I read, every day, the
Outdoors' Best Forum Florida Fishing/Boating.
http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zeromain?id=1 Pretty good stuff and those
guys get to do it all year long. We do too, here in TX and you in CA..but I
am still envious.

Now, if it wasn't for five grandkids ( all here ) and a wife of 43 years (
who wants to be near the grandkids) ..I'd be checking it out. RichG
--
RichG
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners



Capt Frank Hopkins March 13th 04 02:56 PM

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Hey Bchbound,
Inland has its share of water too. Ever hear of Lake Ochachobee or
howabout Lake George Or lake Sanford or Orange Lake or... or... St. Johns
River? Crystal River, St Mary's River, Suwuannee River? Of course with more
coastline then any other 2 states, off shore has its merits too!

Yep we got a lot of water in Florida!
--
Capt. Frank

__c
\ _ | \_
__\_| oooo \_____
~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~
www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks


"Bchbound" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I just spent 3 weeks in FL visiting our grandkids.

I never saw so many boats and boat dealers and water.


Yes there is alot of water down there. Just dont go inland. SW Florida

is
great for year round boating as I guess also SE Florida is. Wanna see
water? Drive to Key West.





Greg March 13th 04 10:44 PM

Boats in FL
 
Should come in the summer, same amount of water, fewer boats ;-)

Greg March 14th 04 03:20 AM

Boats in FL
 
N.H. (the state where I live) has 17 miles of coastline. For comparison,
does anyone know how many miles of coastline Fla. has?


I just saw a tourism site that says 8426 miles. I assume that is guessing about
the 10,000 islands and the Keys where measuring is more art than science.

JGK March 14th 04 03:22 AM

Boats in FL
 
Don't know if the Keys are included...might just be the main land.

Coast Line of Florida
Atlantic Coast 399 Miles
Gulf Coast 798 Miles
Total Coast Line 1,197 miles

http://www.fhp.state.fl.us/html/floridafacts.html


wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:37:59 GMT, "Bill Kiene" wrote:

I just spent 3 weeks in FL visiting our grandkids.

I never saw so many boats and boat dealers and water.


N.H. (the state where I live) has 17 miles of coastline. For comparison,
does anyone know how many miles of coastline Fla. has?




RichG March 14th 04 03:59 AM

Boats in FL
 
The whole concept of measuring coastline comes down to what process is used.

Surely, if we measured EVERY inlet; bay; and minor undulation on ANY
shoreline, one could come out with a lot of different numbers. I remember
some study that measured a lake's shoreline by using one foot increments,
and contrasted that measurement with one measuring one mile increments. The
differences ( for the same shoreline) was amazing. RichG

--
RichG
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners



bb March 14th 04 04:19 AM

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 03:41:02 GMT, wrote:

Thanks for the info. I thought that Fla. might have even more than that,
but, I think Fla's coastline is relatively straight. I just found out on
the WWW that our neighbor, Maine, has a lot more miles of coastline:

"Maine's coastline is long, craggy and has many inlets. What looks like 228
miles on a map, is 3,478 miles of tidal coastline in reality, including the
offshore islands."


The difference being Maine's shoreline was measured at low tide
whereas Florida's was measured at high tide.

bb



John Smith March 14th 04 04:34 AM

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Maine has a large tidal difference, so it can effect the amout of shoreline,
Fla. is about 2 ft and really doesn't effect the amount of shoreline..


"bb" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 03:41:02 GMT, wrote:

Thanks for the info. I thought that Fla. might have even more than that,
but, I think Fla's coastline is relatively straight. I just found out on
the WWW that our neighbor, Maine, has a lot more miles of coastline:

"Maine's coastline is long, craggy and has many inlets. What looks like

228
miles on a map, is 3,478 miles of tidal coastline in reality, including

the
offshore islands."


The difference being Maine's shoreline was measured at low tide
whereas Florida's was measured at high tide.

bb





JGK March 14th 04 04:59 AM

Boats in FL
 
I started thinking about this and found another site:
http://www.flausa-media.com/Subcateg...s/ffrecfct.htm
this is their facts:
Sand beaches, a Florida signature, account for 1,100 miles (1,770 km) of the
state's 1,800 miles (2,898 km) of coastline. Actually, Florida has more than
8,460 miles (13,620 km) of tidal shoreline, second only to Alaska in that
category
Ok my question: What is the difference between "coastline" and "tidal
Shoreline"?


wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:22:50 -0500, "JGK"
wrote:

Don't know if the Keys are included...might just be the main land.

Coast Line of Florida
Atlantic Coast 399 Miles
Gulf Coast 798 Miles
Total Coast Line 1,197 miles

http://www.fhp.state.fl.us/html/floridafacts.html



Thanks for the info. I thought that Fla. might have even more than that,
but, I think Fla's coastline is relatively straight. I just found out on
the WWW that our neighbor, Maine, has a lot more miles of coastline:

"Maine's coastline is long, craggy and has many inlets. What looks like

228
miles on a map, is 3,478 miles of tidal coastline in reality, including

the
offshore islands."




Eisboch March 14th 04 11:02 AM

Boats in FL
 

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:NhR4c.9220$_w.267962@attbi_s53...

Maine has a large tidal difference, so it can effect the amout of

shoreline,
Fla. is about 2 ft and really doesn't effect the amount of shoreline..



Anyone know why this is so? The marina in Massachusetts where we used to
keep our boat had 10 to 11 foot tides. The marina here in Jupiter FL has
2-3 foot tides. (Good thing, otherwise half of Florida would disappear at
high tide, I think).

Seems like I remember somebody telling me that there is no tide at the
equator. Are tides typically greater the further north or south from the
equator?

Eisboch (wondering about this)


Bchbound March 14th 04 02:10 PM

Boats in FL
 
In article k.net,
says...

Hey Bchbound,
Inland has its share of water too. Ever hear of Lake Ochachobee or
howabout Lake George Or lake Sanford or Orange Lake or... or... St. Johns
River? Crystal River, St Mary's River, Suwuannee River? Of course with more
coastline then any other 2 states, off shore has its merits too!

Yep we got a lot of water in Florida!
--
Capt. Frank

__c
\ _ | \_
__\_| oooo \_____
~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~
www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks


"Bchbound" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
I just spent 3 weeks in FL visiting our grandkids.

I never saw so many boats and boat dealers and water.


Yes there is alot of water down there. Just dont go inland. SW Florida

is
great for year round boating as I guess also SE Florida is. Wanna see
water? Drive to Key West.





I heard of those lakes. Living on Long Island I dont know much, if
anything at all about fresh water boating.I have heard that if you go up
the caloosahache river from Ft Myers you can get all the way to the
Atlantic. Not sure if that is true.

Bchbound

Greg March 14th 04 03:52 PM

Boats in FL
 
.I have heard that if you go up
the caloosahache river from Ft Myers you can get all the way to the
Atlantic. Not sure if that is true.

Bchbound


Yup, you come out at Stewart.

Greg March 14th 04 03:58 PM

Boats in FL
 
: What is the difference between "coastline" and "tidal
Shoreline"?


They are referring to the estuary areas where there are thousands of mangrove
islands and small inlets. If you draw a straight "coastline" from Miami to
Naples you would get about 150 miles but if you followed each little island and
inlet up into the Everglades you get thousands of miles. I'm sure the same
would be true all along the bayou country of the Gulf coast. These "shorelines"
are easier to measure up in Tampa Bay/St Pete since most of them are seawalled.
;-(

Wayne.B March 14th 04 06:35 PM

Boats in FL
 
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:10:46 GMT, Bchbound
wrote:
I have heard that if you go up
the caloosahache river from Ft Myers you can get all the way to the
Atlantic. Not sure if that is true.

=========================

It is true; I live about 1,000 feet from the Caloosahatchee and can
speak with a great deal of certainty. It is technically known as the
Okeechobee Waterway, starting out with the Caloosahatchee River,
transitioning to canals, crossing Lake Okeechobee, followed by more
canals to St Lucie on the east coast. There are 5 locks along the
way, no permits or fees required.

http://www.saj.usace.army.mil/recreation/




Capt Frank Hopkins March 14th 04 06:51 PM

Boats in FL
 

The difference between "coastline" and tidal shoreline."

Coastline is defined as "ocean front"

Tidal shoreline is any water affected by tides. Such as sounds, bays,
coves, or some rivers such as the St. Johns which has tidal effect from its
headwaters (minimal) to the mouth (3-7 feet depending on moon and winds.).

If you wish to see a bit of the St. Johns. feel free to visit my website.
--
Capt. Frank

__c
\ _ | \_
__\_| oooo \_____
~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~
www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks
"JGK" wrote in message
...
I started thinking about this and found another site:

http://www.flausa-media.com/Subcateg...%20Pages/ffrec
fct.htm
this is their facts:
Sand beaches, a Florida signature, account for 1,100 miles (1,770 km) of

the
state's 1,800 miles (2,898 km) of coastline. Actually, Florida has more

than
8,460 miles (13,620 km) of tidal shoreline, second only to Alaska in

that
category
Ok my question: What is the difference between "coastline" and "tidal
Shoreline"?


wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:22:50 -0500, "JGK"


wrote:

Don't know if the Keys are included...might just be the main land.

Coast Line of Florida
Atlantic Coast 399 Miles
Gulf Coast 798 Miles
Total Coast Line 1,197 miles

http://www.fhp.state.fl.us/html/floridafacts.html



Thanks for the info. I thought that Fla. might have even more than

that,
but, I think Fla's coastline is relatively straight. I just found out

on
the WWW that our neighbor, Maine, has a lot more miles of coastline:

"Maine's coastline is long, craggy and has many inlets. What looks

like
228
miles on a map, is 3,478 miles of tidal coastline in reality,

including
the
offshore islands."








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