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Black-n-Gold May 4th 05 10:50 PM

First Chinook of the Year
 
Real nice 22 pound king salmon this morning on the first venture of the
year. The King run is so strong this year that Fish and Game is allowing
anglers to fish two rod's per man and keep two a day. The leader of our
spring derby turned in a 38 pounder this morning, that's gilled and gutted
so easily over 40 in the round.

Just closed the loan on the SeaSport this morning. Will be in Bellingham
next week to take possession and should have in Juneau in a few weeks.
Can't hardly wait.



Dry May 4th 05 11:03 PM

Be ashamed Moron catch and release.

Black-n-Gold wrote:

Real nice 22 pound king salmon this morning on the first venture of the
year. The King run is so strong this year that Fish and Game is allowing
anglers to fish two rod's per man and keep two a day. The leader of our
spring derby turned in a 38 pounder this morning, that's gilled and gutted
so easily over 40 in the round.

Just closed the loan on the SeaSport this morning. Will be in Bellingham
next week to take possession and should have in Juneau in a few weeks.
Can't hardly wait.


[email protected] May 4th 05 11:18 PM

Calling "moron" is a little extreme.

I do agree that a 38-pound salmon, (or even a 22-pound salmon), will do
everybody more good when left in the run to spawn additional big fish
than gaffed and gutted to win a derby prize.....

but man is part of the natural world and one of the top predators on
the food chain. Black-n-Gold may have different values than you, but
keeping a fish now and then doesn't make somebody a moron.

Personally, I enjoy a bit of tasty salmon now and then and I have *no*
illusions about how that filet gets from the ocean to my plate. :-)


JimH May 4th 05 11:39 PM


"Dry" wrote in message
...
Be ashamed Moron catch and release.


So what is wrong with eating what you catch and staying within legal
limits?

When is your PETA membership due for renewal?



Black-n-Gold May 5th 05 12:39 AM


"Dry" wrote in message
...
Be ashamed Moron catch and release.


Great idea. Next time I bring one of these magnificent beasts on board,
I'll sit down with him and we'll get in touch with his feelings - and mine
to. We'll do this right before I introduce him to the business end of my
custom made fish bonker (which in fact is a hand carved bonker made from the
magnificant antler of an even more magnificant Caribou whom I had the
pleasure of meeting last fall) and further introduce him to my scalding hot
skillet coated in Cajun spice and simmered in butter.

Thanks for the tip!



John H May 5th 05 01:12 AM

On Wed, 4 May 2005 13:50:38 -0800, "Black-n-Gold" wrote:

Real nice 22 pound king salmon this morning on the first venture of the
year. The King run is so strong this year that Fish and Game is allowing
anglers to fish two rod's per man and keep two a day. The leader of our
spring derby turned in a 38 pounder this morning, that's gilled and gutted
so easily over 40 in the round.

Just closed the loan on the SeaSport this morning. Will be in Bellingham
next week to take possession and should have in Juneau in a few weeks.
Can't hardly wait.


Super! I want to go to Puget Sound and troll for salmon!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H May 5th 05 01:15 AM

On Wed, 4 May 2005 15:39:13 -0800, "Black-n-Gold" wrote:


"Dry" wrote in message
...
Be ashamed Moron catch and release.


Great idea. Next time I bring one of these magnificent beasts on board,
I'll sit down with him and we'll get in touch with his feelings - and mine
to. We'll do this right before I introduce him to the business end of my
custom made fish bonker (which in fact is a hand carved bonker made from the
magnificant antler of an even more magnificant Caribou whom I had the
pleasure of meeting last fall) and further introduce him to my scalding hot
skillet coated in Cajun spice and simmered in butter.

Thanks for the tip!


Tell us more. How did you catch it? What bait (herring?)? How deep? Trolling?
How fast? Come on, fill us in with the nitty-gritty details. Just where were
you, so when I go visit Chuck and he takes me for a ride, we can go there and
maybe drag a line or two.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] May 5th 05 02:15 AM

Tell us more. How did you catch it? What bait (herring?)? How deep?
Trolling?
How fast? Come on, fill us in with the nitty-gritty details. Just where
were
you, so when I go visit Chuck and he takes me for a ride, we can go
there and
maybe drag a line or two.
--
John H

*********

To see what's open when you plan to come out, Google up Washington
State Sportfishing rules. I can take you fishing in Area 10. My boat
will be in Canada from the first of August through the middle of
September, (but I'll only be there about two weeks of that time and
will fly home to tend to business for a few week interval).


SoFarrell May 5th 05 12:33 PM


"Black-n-Gold" wrote in message
...
Real nice 22 pound king salmon this morning on the first venture of the
year. The King run is so strong this year that Fish and Game is allowing
anglers to fish two rod's per man and keep two a day. The leader of our
spring derby turned in a 38 pounder this morning, that's gilled and gutted
so easily over 40 in the round.

Just closed the loan on the SeaSport this morning. Will be in Bellingham
next week to take possession and should have in Juneau in a few weeks.
Can't hardly wait.



Salmon steaks! Don't forget the pepper sausce,





Black-n-Gold May 5th 05 06:20 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 May 2005 15:39:13 -0800, "Black-n-Gold" wrote:


"Dry" wrote in message
...
Be ashamed Moron catch and release.


Great idea. Next time I bring one of these magnificent beasts on board,
I'll sit down with him and we'll get in touch with his feelings - and mine
to. We'll do this right before I introduce him to the business end of my
custom made fish bonker (which in fact is a hand carved bonker made from
the
magnificant antler of an even more magnificant Caribou whom I had the
pleasure of meeting last fall) and further introduce him to my scalding
hot
skillet coated in Cajun spice and simmered in butter.

Thanks for the tip!


Tell us more. How did you catch it? What bait (herring?)? How deep?
Trolling?
How fast? Come on, fill us in with the nitty-gritty details. Just where
were
you, so when I go visit Chuck and he takes me for a ride, we can go there
and
maybe drag a line or two.
--



Trolling on the little motor, probably 2knts, Whole herring no flasher,
downrigger at 15 feet. Spot we fish kings this time of year is no more than
20 feet deep. We are a 1000 miles north of puget sound, so it will be a
long ride - look me up when you get here.

linus



John H May 5th 05 09:45 PM

On Thu, 5 May 2005 09:20:47 -0800, "Black-n-Gold" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 4 May 2005 15:39:13 -0800, "Black-n-Gold" wrote:


"Dry" wrote in message
...
Be ashamed Moron catch and release.


Great idea. Next time I bring one of these magnificent beasts on board,
I'll sit down with him and we'll get in touch with his feelings - and mine
to. We'll do this right before I introduce him to the business end of my
custom made fish bonker (which in fact is a hand carved bonker made from
the
magnificant antler of an even more magnificant Caribou whom I had the
pleasure of meeting last fall) and further introduce him to my scalding
hot
skillet coated in Cajun spice and simmered in butter.

Thanks for the tip!


Tell us more. How did you catch it? What bait (herring?)? How deep?
Trolling?
How fast? Come on, fill us in with the nitty-gritty details. Just where
were
you, so when I go visit Chuck and he takes me for a ride, we can go there
and
maybe drag a line or two.
--



Trolling on the little motor, probably 2knts, Whole herring no flasher,
downrigger at 15 feet. Spot we fish kings this time of year is no more than
20 feet deep. We are a 1000 miles north of puget sound, so it will be a
long ride - look me up when you get here.

linus


OK. I'm sure Chuck won't mind a trip that far if we have a good chance of
getting a nice salmon!

Thanks for the info. I always knew herring were good for something!

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Bill McKee May 10th 05 04:20 AM


"Black-n-Gold" wrote in message
...

"Dry" wrote in message
...
Be ashamed Moron catch and release.


Great idea. Next time I bring one of these magnificent beasts on board,
I'll sit down with him and we'll get in touch with his feelings - and mine
to. We'll do this right before I introduce him to the business end of my
custom made fish bonker (which in fact is a hand carved bonker made from
the magnificant antler of an even more magnificant Caribou whom I had the
pleasure of meeting last fall) and further introduce him to my scalding
hot skillet coated in Cajun spice and simmered in butter.

Thanks for the tip!


"Catch and Release" in to 350 degree oil.



Bill McKee May 10th 05 04:22 AM


wrote in message
ups.com...
Tell us more. How did you catch it? What bait (herring?)? How deep?
Trolling?
How fast? Come on, fill us in with the nitty-gritty details. Just where
were
you, so when I go visit Chuck and he takes me for a ride, we can go
there and
maybe drag a line or two.
--
John H

*********

To see what's open when you plan to come out, Google up Washington
State Sportfishing rules. I can take you fishing in Area 10. My boat
will be in Canada from the first of August through the middle of
September, (but I'll only be there about two weeks of that time and
will fly home to tend to business for a few week interval).


I think they closed all of the Columbia to salmon fishing. So area 10 is
out. Too many fur bags. They are now eating the sturgeon



[email protected] May 10th 05 05:38 AM


Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Tell us more. How did you catch it? What bait (herring?)? How deep?
Trolling?
How fast? Come on, fill us in with the nitty-gritty details. Just

where
were
you, so when I go visit Chuck and he takes me for a ride, we can go
there and
maybe drag a line or two.
--
John H

*********

To see what's open when you plan to come out, Google up Washington
State Sportfishing rules. I can take you fishing in Area 10. My

boat
will be in Canada from the first of August through the middle of
September, (but I'll only be there about two weeks of that time and
will fly home to tend to business for a few week interval).


I think they closed all of the Columbia to salmon fishing. So area

10 is
out. Too many fur bags. They are now eating the sturgeon


************

Did I screw up? I thought central Puget Sound was Area 10.

The "endangered" sea lions have become a regional joke. There may be
more sea lions around now than there were when people of European
ancestry began immigrating here (in any real numbers) in the 1850s- I
wouldn't be surprised. They're everywhere, they weigh hundreds and
hundreds of pounds and all that blubber has to be
fueled with fish. :-( Lesson learned, once we screw up the balance of
nature it becomes almost impossible to restore it.


Bill McKee May 10th 05 05:52 AM


wrote in message
ups.com...

Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Tell us more. How did you catch it? What bait (herring?)? How deep?
Trolling?
How fast? Come on, fill us in with the nitty-gritty details. Just

where
were
you, so when I go visit Chuck and he takes me for a ride, we can go
there and
maybe drag a line or two.
--
John H

*********

To see what's open when you plan to come out, Google up Washington
State Sportfishing rules. I can take you fishing in Area 10. My

boat
will be in Canada from the first of August through the middle of
September, (but I'll only be there about two weeks of that time and
will fly home to tend to business for a few week interval).


I think they closed all of the Columbia to salmon fishing. So area

10 is
out. Too many fur bags. They are now eating the sturgeon


************

Did I screw up? I thought central Puget Sound was Area 10.

The "endangered" sea lions have become a regional joke. There may be
more sea lions around now than there were when people of European
ancestry began immigrating here (in any real numbers) in the 1850s- I
wouldn't be surprised. They're everywhere, they weigh hundreds and
hundreds of pounds and all that blubber has to be
fueled with fish. :-( Lesson learned, once we screw up the balance of
nature it becomes almost impossible to restore it.


I thought area 10 was the mouth of the Columbia. As to the sea lions, yes
there are more than ever. Since we have kept there major predator away from
the rookeries, they have exploded in number. Major predator was the
coyote. Preyed on the pups.



[email protected] May 10th 05 04:53 PM

I thought area 10 was the mouth of the Columbia. As to the sea lions,
yes
there are more than ever. Since we have kept there major predator away
from
the rookeries, they have exploded in number. Major predator was the
coyote. Preyed on the pups.

Reply

**************

And Orcas. (Killer whales). Orcas think that nothing beats a fresh Sea
Lion at breakfast.


Bill McKee May 10th 05 10:23 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
I thought area 10 was the mouth of the Columbia. As to the sea lions,
yes
there are more than ever. Since we have kept there major predator away
from
the rookeries, they have exploded in number. Major predator was the
coyote. Preyed on the pups.

Reply

**************

And Orcas. (Killer whales). Orcas think that nothing beats a fresh Sea
Lion at breakfast.


They also like to play with them. Catch that is. Friend was in the CG on a
cutter coming back down the inside passage and got photos of a pod of orcas
playing catch with a big sea lion. They would toss the sea lion 20' in the
air he stated. But the coyotes got lots more sea lions than orca's me
thinks.



Harry.Krause May 11th 05 04:19 PM

On Wed, 4 May 2005 13:50:38 -0800, "Black-n-Gold" wrote:

Real nice 22 pound king salmon this morning on the first venture of the
year. The King run is so strong this year that Fish and Game is allowing
anglers to fish two rod's per man and keep two a day. The leader of our
spring derby turned in a 38 pounder this morning, that's gilled and gutted
so easily over 40 in the round.

Just closed the loan on the SeaSport this morning. Will be in Bellingham
next week to take possession and should have in Juneau in a few weeks.
Can't hardly wait.


40 lbs isnt bad, Ive pulled 50+ out of there on many occaisions.

Did I tell you guys it takes me 20 minutes to walk to the end of my
driveway?



-rick- May 13th 05 05:23 AM

Bill McKee wrote:

I think they closed all of the Columbia to salmon fishing. So area 10 is
out. Too many fur bags. They are now eating the sturgeon



A sea lion took a spring chinook away from my wife a few weeks ago on
Multnomah channel. I broke it off without giving chase but then
wondered if I could have harassed it into letting go. That notion was
dispelled the next week after watching a boat chase one around for about
20 minutes. The damn thing still got away with his fish.

The Columbia spring chinook run is coming in under 30% of expected but
the Willamette run is about as predicted. One major difference is the
series of dams on the Columbia. When these fish migrated out in '02 we
had low flows and they held back water for power generation. Fish need
rivers to flow.

-rick-

ps. I think you mean bouy 10 (at the Columbia mouth).

Bill McKee May 13th 05 07:39 PM


"-rick-" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:

I think they closed all of the Columbia to salmon fishing. So area 10 is
out. Too many fur bags. They are now eating the sturgeon



A sea lion took a spring chinook away from my wife a few weeks ago on
Multnomah channel. I broke it off without giving chase but then wondered
if I could have harassed it into letting go. That notion was dispelled the
next week after watching a boat chase one around for about 20 minutes. The
damn thing still got away with his fish.

The Columbia spring chinook run is coming in under 30% of expected but the
Willamette run is about as predicted. One major difference is the series
of dams on the Columbia. When these fish migrated out in '02 we had low
flows and they held back water for power generation. Fish need rivers to
flow.

-rick-

ps. I think you mean bouy 10 (at the Columbia mouth).


Yes, is the reason for my confusion. As to Furbags, we are losing lots of
salmon to them. Last year, a commercial guy I know, said he lost about 50%
of his fish. I see they are now going after sturgeon as they have decimated
all the rest of the endangered species fish.



-rick- May 14th 05 06:28 AM

Bill McKee wrote:

Yes, is the reason for my confusion. As to Furbags, we are losing lots of
salmon to them. Last year, a commercial guy I know, said he lost about 50%
of his fish. I see they are now going after sturgeon as they have decimated
all the rest of the endangered species fish.


A few of them here learned to climb the fish ladder at Bonneville dam.
They've also been chowing down on the sturgeon. The fish and wildlife
guys were harassing them with fireworks, etc. but I don't think it
helped. There's even been talk of allowing native americans to kill some
but it probably won't happen.

-rick-

Bill McKee May 15th 05 04:30 AM


"-rick-" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:

Yes, is the reason for my confusion. As to Furbags, we are losing lots
of salmon to them. Last year, a commercial guy I know, said he lost
about 50% of his fish. I see they are now going after sturgeon as they
have decimated all the rest of the endangered species fish.


A few of them here learned to climb the fish ladder at Bonneville dam.
They've also been chowing down on the sturgeon. The fish and wildlife guys
were harassing them with fireworks, etc. but I don't think it helped.
There's even been talk of allowing native americans to kill some but it
probably won't happen.

-rick-


I understand it took at least weeks before the F&G guys could get permission
to harass the furbags.



[email protected] May 15th 05 04:44 AM

We had a sea lion infestation at the Ballard locks in Seattle. They
lazy blubberbutts would lounge around at the base of the fish ladder
and pick off salmon as if they were on a smorgasbord.

Fireworks- didn't work long term.
Phony fiberglass Orca- scared away all the phony fiberglass sea lions
Hauling the sea lions a few hundred miles away and realeasing them-
they were all the hungrier after their long swim back.

What has worked: Mooring a barge in Shilshole Bay, not far from the
locks. The barge has fencing on three sides, and a radio controlled
trap door on the fourth side. During the portions of the year when the
salmon aren't running, this trap door is left open all the time and the
sea lions get used to lounging on the barge. When the salmon are
running, they wait until the sea lions have all hauled out onto the
barge to sun- and then trip the trap door. Saves the salmon, but the
downside is that the sea lions bark and yap almost endlessly until they
are let out again- and that can be several days or more depending on
the run. Just try to sleep on your boat at the marina with 6 p-o'd sea
lions sounding off all night!


Bill McKee May 15th 05 06:24 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
We had a sea lion infestation at the Ballard locks in Seattle. They
lazy blubberbutts would lounge around at the base of the fish ladder
and pick off salmon as if they were on a smorgasbord.

Fireworks- didn't work long term.
Phony fiberglass Orca- scared away all the phony fiberglass sea lions
Hauling the sea lions a few hundred miles away and realeasing them-
they were all the hungrier after their long swim back.

What has worked: Mooring a barge in Shilshole Bay, not far from the
locks. The barge has fencing on three sides, and a radio controlled
trap door on the fourth side. During the portions of the year when the
salmon aren't running, this trap door is left open all the time and the
sea lions get used to lounging on the barge. When the salmon are
running, they wait until the sea lions have all hauled out onto the
barge to sun- and then trip the trap door. Saves the salmon, but the
downside is that the sea lions bark and yap almost endlessly until they
are let out again- and that can be several days or more depending on
the run. Just try to sleep on your boat at the marina with 6 p-o'd sea
lions sounding off all night!



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