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NOYB May 4th 05 12:53 AM

Our best and our brightest - well, not really.
 

"harry.krause" wrote in message
...
US ARMY Says Gays: No way, Drug Heads no problem.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005...ain692497.shtml

May 2, 2005

"I was shocked. I'm sitting there looking at a poster that says
'Integrity, Honor, Respect,' and he is telling me to lie."
David McSwane


(CBS) Seventeen-year-old high school journalist and honor student David
McSwane is just what Army recruiters are looking for, but he suspected
they might be lowering their standards, reports Rick Sallinger of CBS News
Denver affiliate KCNC.

"I wanted to see how far the army would go during a war to get one more
soldier," McSwane said.

So he showed up at a Golden Colorado recruiting office saying he was a
dropout. No problem, the recruiter said — and told McSwane in a phone call
he recorded — to create a fake diploma from a non-existent school.

"It can be like Faith Hill Baptist School or something — whatever you
choose," the recruiter said.

So McSwane went on-line, got a phony grade transcript and a diploma with
the name of the school the recruiter suggested and turned it in.

"I was shocked. I'm sitting there looking at a poster that says
'Integrity, Honor, Respect,' and he is telling me to lie," McSwane said.

Then the high school senior told the recruiter:

"I have a problem with drugs. I can't kick the habit — just marijuana."

The recruiter suggested purchasing a detoxification kit.

"The two times I had the guys use it — it's worked both times. We didn't
have to worry about anything," the recruiter said.

McSwane had a friend take a video as another recruiter, Sgt. Tim Pickel,
took him to buy the so-called detox kit.

Sallinger confronted Sgt. Pickel with a phone conversation David McSwane
said he had before they went to the store.

On tape:

Sgt Pickel: "When you said about the one problem that you had...what does
it consist of?"

McSwane: "Marijuana."

Pickel: "Oh. OK. So nothing major?"

McSwane: "Yeah he said he would take me down to get that stuff. I mean I
have no idea what it is so you would have to show me. Is that a problem?"

Pickel: "No, not at all."

Sgt. Pickel quickly referred us to his superiors.

Lt. Colonel Jeffrey Brodeur who heads Army recruiting for the Colorado
region did not defend the recruiters.

"Let me tell you something sir. I'm a soldier and have been a soldier for
20 years," Broderu said. "This violates trust, it violates integrity, it
violates honor, and it violates duty."

The two soldiers involved have already been suspended from recruiting
duties. They could face anything from a letter of reprimand to a court
martial if they are not cleared by the investigation.
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Actually, this is a good sign; it is forcing us towards a draft, and
that'll be the end of Bush's military adventurism.


basskisser should be first on the draft list since he's a confirmed pothead.



John H May 4th 05 01:01 AM

On Tue, 3 May 2005 19:53:11 -0400, "NOYB" wrote:


"harry.krause" wrote in message
...
US ARMY Says Gays: No way, Drug Heads no problem.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005...ain692497.shtml

May 2, 2005

"I was shocked. I'm sitting there looking at a poster that says
'Integrity, Honor, Respect,' and he is telling me to lie."
David McSwane


(CBS) Seventeen-year-old high school journalist and honor student David
McSwane is just what Army recruiters are looking for, but he suspected
they might be lowering their standards, reports Rick Sallinger of CBS News
Denver affiliate KCNC.

"I wanted to see how far the army would go during a war to get one more
soldier," McSwane said.

So he showed up at a Golden Colorado recruiting office saying he was a
dropout. No problem, the recruiter said — and told McSwane in a phone call
he recorded — to create a fake diploma from a non-existent school.

"It can be like Faith Hill Baptist School or something — whatever you
choose," the recruiter said.

So McSwane went on-line, got a phony grade transcript and a diploma with
the name of the school the recruiter suggested and turned it in.

"I was shocked. I'm sitting there looking at a poster that says
'Integrity, Honor, Respect,' and he is telling me to lie," McSwane said.

Then the high school senior told the recruiter:

"I have a problem with drugs. I can't kick the habit — just marijuana."

The recruiter suggested purchasing a detoxification kit.

"The two times I had the guys use it — it's worked both times. We didn't
have to worry about anything," the recruiter said.

McSwane had a friend take a video as another recruiter, Sgt. Tim Pickel,
took him to buy the so-called detox kit.

Sallinger confronted Sgt. Pickel with a phone conversation David McSwane
said he had before they went to the store.

On tape:

Sgt Pickel: "When you said about the one problem that you had...what does
it consist of?"

McSwane: "Marijuana."

Pickel: "Oh. OK. So nothing major?"

McSwane: "Yeah he said he would take me down to get that stuff. I mean I
have no idea what it is so you would have to show me. Is that a problem?"

Pickel: "No, not at all."

Sgt. Pickel quickly referred us to his superiors.

Lt. Colonel Jeffrey Brodeur who heads Army recruiting for the Colorado
region did not defend the recruiters.

"Let me tell you something sir. I'm a soldier and have been a soldier for
20 years," Broderu said. "This violates trust, it violates integrity, it
violates honor, and it violates duty."

The two soldiers involved have already been suspended from recruiting
duties. They could face anything from a letter of reprimand to a court
martial if they are not cleared by the investigation.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually, this is a good sign; it is forcing us towards a draft, and
that'll be the end of Bush's military adventurism.


basskisser should be first on the draft list since he's a confirmed pothead.

Considering what Ullico has employed, these guys aren't all that bad.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

NOYB May 4th 05 01:09 AM


"Harry.Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"harry.krause" wrote in message
...

US ARMY Says Gays: No way, Drug Heads no problem.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005...ain692497.shtml

May 2, 2005

"I was shocked. I'm sitting there looking at a poster that says
'Integrity, Honor, Respect,' and he is telling me to lie."
David McSwane


(CBS) Seventeen-year-old high school journalist and honor student David
McSwane is just what Army recruiters are looking for, but he suspected
they might be lowering their standards, reports Rick Sallinger of CBS
News Denver affiliate KCNC.

"I wanted to see how far the army would go during a war to get one more
soldier," McSwane said.

So he showed up at a Golden Colorado recruiting office saying he was a
dropout. No problem, the recruiter said — and told McSwane in a phone
call he recorded — to create a fake diploma from a non-existent school.

"It can be like Faith Hill Baptist School or something — whatever you
choose," the recruiter said.

So McSwane went on-line, got a phony grade transcript and a diploma with
the name of the school the recruiter suggested and turned it in.

"I was shocked. I'm sitting there looking at a poster that says
'Integrity, Honor, Respect,' and he is telling me to lie," McSwane said.

Then the high school senior told the recruiter:

"I have a problem with drugs. I can't kick the habit — just marijuana."

The recruiter suggested purchasing a detoxification kit.

"The two times I had the guys use it — it's worked both times. We didn't
have to worry about anything," the recruiter said.

McSwane had a friend take a video as another recruiter, Sgt. Tim Pickel,
took him to buy the so-called detox kit.

Sallinger confronted Sgt. Pickel with a phone conversation David McSwane
said he had before they went to the store.

On tape:

Sgt Pickel: "When you said about the one problem that you had...what does
it consist of?"

McSwane: "Marijuana."

Pickel: "Oh. OK. So nothing major?"

McSwane: "Yeah he said he would take me down to get that stuff. I mean I
have no idea what it is so you would have to show me. Is that a problem?"

Pickel: "No, not at all."

Sgt. Pickel quickly referred us to his superiors.

Lt. Colonel Jeffrey Brodeur who heads Army recruiting for the Colorado
region did not defend the recruiters.

"Let me tell you something sir. I'm a soldier and have been a soldier for
20 years," Broderu said. "This violates trust, it violates integrity, it
violates honor, and it violates duty."

The two soldiers involved have already been suspended from recruiting
duties. They could face anything from a letter of reprimand to a court
martial if they are not cleared by the investigation.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually, this is a good sign; it is forcing us towards a draft, and
that'll be the end of Bush's military adventurism.



basskisser should be first on the draft list since he's a confirmed
pothead.



I'm pushing for the draft to be filled by rah=rah bush supporters. Let
them die for his causes.


First thing on our agenda will be assimilating all of the blue states.



jps May 4th 05 02:46 AM

In article , says...

"Harry.Krause" wrote in message


I'm pushing for the draft to be filled by rah=rah bush supporters. Let
them die for his causes.


First thing on our agenda will be assimilating all of the blue states.


Republicans are Democrats who don't know any better.

jps

[email protected] May 4th 05 12:50 PM


NOYB wrote:

basskisser should be first on the draft list since he's a confirmed

pothead.



Please show me how you've confirmed such. Do you have any evidence to
back up your confirmation? Or are you posting in pure ignorance, again?


NOYB May 4th 05 12:56 PM


"jps" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"Harry.Krause" wrote in message


I'm pushing for the draft to be filled by rah=rah bush supporters. Let
them die for his causes.


First thing on our agenda will be assimilating all of the blue states.


Republicans are Democrats who don't know any better.


You screwed up the punch line.

Republicans are Democrats who have been mugged.



NOYB May 4th 05 01:27 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...

NOYB wrote:

basskisser should be first on the draft list since he's a confirmed

pothead.



Please show me how you've confirmed such. Do you have any evidence to
back up your confirmation? Or are you posting in pure ignorance, again?


It's not "ignorance", Kevin. It's a conclusion that I've reached based on
evidence. Lots of evidence.

By the way...
Do you have any idea how bright a growing lamp glows on an infrared camera,
even through walls? You really should have done a better job insulating
your growing room.

Don't try to hide it now. It's too late. The cops already have all the
evidence they need. If I were you, I'd pack up and move...and watch out for
black helicopters.



Dr. Dr. K. Grear May 4th 05 02:42 PM

Kevin,
Don't listen to NOYB!

You don't have time to pack up. Just jump in the car and run. They are on
their way.


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

wrote in message
ups.com...

NOYB wrote:

basskisser should be first on the draft list since he's a confirmed

pothead.



Please show me how you've confirmed such. Do you have any evidence to
back up your confirmation? Or are you posting in pure ignorance, again?


It's not "ignorance", Kevin. It's a conclusion that I've reached based on
evidence. Lots of evidence.

By the way...
Do you have any idea how bright a growing lamp glows on an infrared
camera, even through walls? You really should have done a better job
insulating your growing room.

Don't try to hide it now. It's too late. The cops already have all the
evidence they need. If I were you, I'd pack up and move...and watch out
for black helicopters.





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