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Can I hoist a person up the backstay?
I have a block for a flag halyard connected to my backstay about 15
feet above my deck. The block has failed, and I'd rather not unstep that mast to replace the block. Can I used a bosun's chair and connect the main halyard around the backstay to lift someone up to the fitting to replace it? My main concern is placing 180 to 200 pounds of strain on the backstay. Logic tells me this is okay though, since the forestay carries the genoa, but before I try, I'd like other opinions. Thanks! |
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wrote in message ups.com... I have a block for a flag halyard connected to my backstay about 15 feet above my deck. The block has failed, and I'd rather not unstep that mast to replace the block. Can I used a bosun's chair and connect the main halyard around the backstay to lift someone up to the fitting to replace it? My main concern is placing 180 to 200 pounds of strain on the backstay. Logic tells me this is okay though, since the forestay carries the genoa, but before I try, I'd like other opinions. Thanks! What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. CN |
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? |
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:11:25 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Is sinking at the dock considered "underway"? bb |
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN |
Capt. Neal® wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR |
The exterior seems like it is in Bristol condition.
Where have you sailed it recently? "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN |
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR Because I board my vessel from the dinghy on the starboard quarter because it is uncluttered there. The port side has the BBQ, wires, etc. CN |
Capt. Neal® wrote:
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR Because I board my vessel from the dinghy on the starboard quarter because it is uncluttered there. The port side has the BBQ, wires, etc. CN Another advantage is that people probably stay away from you thinking that you know as much about handling a boat as you do flag etiquette. JR |
"Yes, it's me" wrote in message ... The exterior seems like it is in Bristol condition. So's the interior. http://captneal.homestead.com/updatedinterior.html Where have you sailed it recently? I live aboard and sail short trips in the Keys and longer trips to the Bahamas. CN |
I don't like your choice of color, but it is Bristol
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... "Yes, it's me" wrote in message ... The exterior seems like it is in Bristol condition. So's the interior. http://captneal.homestead.com/updatedinterior.html Where have you sailed it recently? I live aboard and sail short trips in the Keys and longer trips to the Bahamas. CN |
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:32:48 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote: Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I'll admit I'm not particularly impressed with Coronado Yachts. I'll give you credit though, you seem to have this one in ship shape. Nice looking vessel. bb |
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR Because I board my vessel from the dinghy on the starboard quarter because it is uncluttered there. The port side has the BBQ, wires, etc. CN Another advantage is that people probably stay away from you thinking that you know as much about handling a boat as you do flag etiquette. JR I know enough not to fly a flag 15 feet up the backstay. There is more than one thing wrong with that picture. Also, there is no set fast rule about placing the stern staff on either port, starboard or middle. From Chapman's piloting: "A single-masted sailboat underway may fly the U.S., USPS, or yacht ensign at a stern staff. . ." The illustration depicts the staff in the center but since I have an outboard in the center the staff cannot be fitted there. I hope this helps. CN CN |
Capt. Neal® wrote:
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR Because I board my vessel from the dinghy on the starboard quarter because it is uncluttered there. The port side has the BBQ, wires, etc. CN Another advantage is that people probably stay away from you thinking that you know as much about handling a boat as you do flag etiquette. JR I know enough not to fly a flag 15 feet up the backstay. There is more than one thing wrong with that picture. Also, there is no set fast rule about placing the stern staff on either port, starboard or middle. From Chapman's piloting: "A single-masted sailboat underway may fly the U.S., USPS, or yacht ensign at a stern staff. . ." The illustration depicts the staff in the center but since I have an outboard in the center the staff cannot be fitted there. I hope this helps. CN CN Doesn't help at all. There are two proper places to mount a flagstaff on the stern and the port side isn't one of then. I must admit I am surprised at you one this one capt. JR |
"bb" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:32:48 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I'll admit I'm not particularly impressed with Coronado Yachts. I'll give you credit though, you seem to have this one in ship shape. Nice looking vessel. bb Thank you, sir! CN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html |
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message . .. Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR Because I board my vessel from the dinghy on the starboard quarter because it is uncluttered there. The port side has the BBQ, wires, etc. CN Another advantage is that people probably stay away from you thinking that you know as much about handling a boat as you do flag etiquette. JR I know enough not to fly a flag 15 feet up the backstay. There is more than one thing wrong with that picture. Also, there is no set fast rule about placing the stern staff on either port, starboard or middle. From Chapman's piloting: "A single-masted sailboat underway may fly the U.S., USPS, or yacht ensign at a stern staff. . ." The illustration depicts the staff in the center but since I have an outboard in the center the staff cannot be fitted there. I hope this helps. CN CN Doesn't help at all. There are two proper places to mount a flagstaff on the stern and the port side isn't one of then. I must admit I am surprised at you one this one capt. JR Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN |
Capt. Neal® wrote:
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message . .. Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR Because I board my vessel from the dinghy on the starboard quarter because it is uncluttered there. The port side has the BBQ, wires, etc. CN Another advantage is that people probably stay away from you thinking that you know as much about handling a boat as you do flag etiquette. JR I know enough not to fly a flag 15 feet up the backstay. There is more than one thing wrong with that picture. Also, there is no set fast rule about placing the stern staff on either port, starboard or middle. From Chapman's piloting: "A single-masted sailboat underway may fly the U.S., USPS, or yacht ensign at a stern staff. . ." The illustration depicts the staff in the center but since I have an outboard in the center the staff cannot be fitted there. I hope this helps. CN CN Doesn't help at all. There are two proper places to mount a flagstaff on the stern and the port side isn't one of then. I must admit I am surprised at you one this one capt. JR Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Spent a lot of time googling and couldn't come up with anything could you? Funny but sad. Bye JR u |
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message . .. Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR Because I board my vessel from the dinghy on the starboard quarter because it is uncluttered there. The port side has the BBQ, wires, etc. CN Another advantage is that people probably stay away from you thinking that you know as much about handling a boat as you do flag etiquette. JR I know enough not to fly a flag 15 feet up the backstay. There is more than one thing wrong with that picture. Also, there is no set fast rule about placing the stern staff on either port, starboard or middle. From Chapman's piloting: "A single-masted sailboat underway may fly the U.S., USPS, or yacht ensign at a stern staff. . ." The illustration depicts the staff in the center but since I have an outboard in the center the staff cannot be fitted there. I hope this helps. CN CN Doesn't help at all. There are two proper places to mount a flagstaff on the stern and the port side isn't one of then. I must admit I am surprised at you one this one capt. JR Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Spent a lot of time googling and couldn't come up with anything could you? Funny but sad. Bye JR u JR.....You may care to read the information posted at this link. Note the following: " When flown from the stern, it should be on a staff (pole) that is sufficiently long and angled, and that is offset to one side (traditionally the starboard side), so the flag flies clear of engine exhaust and rigging. " http://www.sailonline.com/seamanship...etiquette.html Flying the flag off the stern on the starboard side. Traditional, yes. Mandatory for proper etiquette, no. If you get your shorts in a knot over a stranger flying the flag off the stern on the port side of his boat you need to get a life. |
JimH wrote:
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message et... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message h.net... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message uth.net... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:s80l61dqnu3ffl1ni5d8jib71hsu846t3h@4 ax.com... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR Because I board my vessel from the dinghy on the starboard quarter because it is uncluttered there. The port side has the BBQ, wires, etc. CN Another advantage is that people probably stay away from you thinking that you know as much about handling a boat as you do flag etiquette. JR I know enough not to fly a flag 15 feet up the backstay. There is more than one thing wrong with that picture. Also, there is no set fast rule about placing the stern staff on either port, starboard or middle. From Chapman's piloting: "A single-masted sailboat underway may fly the U.S., USPS, or yacht ensign at a stern staff. . ." The illustration depicts the staff in the center but since I have an outboard in the center the staff cannot be fitted there. I hope this helps. CN CN Doesn't help at all. There are two proper places to mount a flagstaff on the stern and the port side isn't one of then. I must admit I am surprised at you one this one capt. JR Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Spent a lot of time googling and couldn't come up with anything could you? Funny but sad. Bye JR u JR.....You may care to read the information posted at this link. Note the following: " When flown from the stern, it should be on a staff (pole) that is sufficiently long and angled, and that is offset to one side (traditionally the starboard side), so the flag flies clear of engine exhaust and rigging. " http://www.sailonline.com/seamanship...etiquette.html Flying the flag off the stern on the starboard side. Traditional, yes. Mandatory for proper etiquette, no. If you get your shorts in a knot over a stranger flying the flag off the stern on the port side of his boat you need to get a life. Jim I was only jerking capt neal's chain like he likes to do to other people. Sorry it bothered you. JR |
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message . net... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message th.net... Capt. Neal® wrote: "JR Gilbreath" wrote in message outh.net... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:s80l61dqnu3ffl1ni5d8jib71hsu846t3h@ 4ax.com... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html CN I wonder what reason the great captain can give for mounting the flagstaff on the port side? JR Because I board my vessel from the dinghy on the starboard quarter because it is uncluttered there. The port side has the BBQ, wires, etc. CN Another advantage is that people probably stay away from you thinking that you know as much about handling a boat as you do flag etiquette. JR I know enough not to fly a flag 15 feet up the backstay. There is more than one thing wrong with that picture. Also, there is no set fast rule about placing the stern staff on either port, starboard or middle. From Chapman's piloting: "A single-masted sailboat underway may fly the U.S., USPS, or yacht ensign at a stern staff. . ." The illustration depicts the staff in the center but since I have an outboard in the center the staff cannot be fitted there. I hope this helps. CN CN Doesn't help at all. There are two proper places to mount a flagstaff on the stern and the port side isn't one of then. I must admit I am surprised at you one this one capt. JR Proper is not proper if it is not functional. Besides, what about the term stern staff don't you understand? CN Spent a lot of time googling and couldn't come up with anything could you? Funny but sad. Bye JR u JR.....You may care to read the information posted at this link. Note the following: " When flown from the stern, it should be on a staff (pole) that is sufficiently long and angled, and that is offset to one side (traditionally the starboard side), so the flag flies clear of engine exhaust and rigging. " http://www.sailonline.com/seamanship...etiquette.html Flying the flag off the stern on the starboard side. Traditional, yes. Mandatory for proper etiquette, no. If you get your shorts in a knot over a stranger flying the flag off the stern on the port side of his boat you need to get a life. Jim I was only jerking capt neal's chain like he likes to do to other people. Sorry it bothered you. JR Sorry, I did not know that. Jim |
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:32:48 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:02:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote: What a lubberly set-up. You should install a proper flagstaff on the transom and decommission your improper set-up. ======================== Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html Very clean looking bright yellow Cornado sailboat. Emphasis on the sail boat. :) Later, Tom |
"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ... Jim I was only jerking capt neal's chain like he likes to do to other people. Sorry it bothered you. JR Pretty feeble chain jerking. You accomplished nothing but making yourself look silly. CN |
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Good advice. I'm sure everything on your Coronado 27 is set up in proper Bristol fashion. Has it been underway recently? Underway frequently and Bristol Fashion. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html Very clean looking bright yellow Cornado sailboat. Emphasis on the sail boat. :) Later, Tom What a God awful colour!What's next..neon pink? |
Thanks everyone for your answers. I think I will probably remove the
block altogether. A flag staff on the starboard side of the transom is a better solution -- and more in line with flag etiquette as well. |
wrote in message oups.com... Thanks everyone for your answers. I think I will probably remove the block altogether. A flag staff on the starboard side of the transom is a better solution -- and more in line with flag etiquette as well. Good man! CN |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:25:48 GMT, harry.krause
wrote: On 23 Apr 2005 09:11:08 -0700, wrote: I have a block for a flag halyard connected to my backstay about 15 feet above my deck. The block has failed, and I'd rather not unstep that mast to replace the block. Can I used a bosun's chair and connect the main halyard around the backstay to lift someone up to the fitting to replace it? My main concern is placing 180 to 200 pounds of strain on the backstay. Logic tells me this is okay though, since the forestay carries the genoa, but before I try, I'd like other opinions. Thanks! it will be fine. I use mine to load the wife all the time, and she is every bit of 300lbs. Heres a pic of the porker once on board; http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/harkra...&.dnm=1ef5.jpg |
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