"DSK" wrote in message
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First put the OT in the header! And where does it say they had a vision
to separate religion and state?

In the Constitution.




Bill McKee wrote:
Where in the constitution does it state there will be no religion
practiced in America?

Do you comprehend the difference between "practicing religion" and the
state imposing a religion? Or having the state favor one religion over
another?

... Where does it say government will not refer to God in any way?

???
Where did I say that the gov't can not (or even should not) refer to God
"in any way?"

DSK


There is a very vocal minority(?) that is pushing for absolutely no mention
of religion or icons of religion in public areas. The religious are
citizens also, and are being tyrannized by a minority.

Bill McKee wrote:
There is a very vocal minority(?) that is pushing for absolutely no mention
of religion or icons of religion in public areas.

There is no prohibition on display of religion or icons (for the Russian
Orthodox among us, I guess) in public places.

It *is* prohibited from spending public money on religious displays. Big
difference.


There is also a very vocal minority pushing for religious war. They talk
of crusades, of using America's military to "stamp out Satan," and the
frequent mention of God by the Founding Fathers. They are an American
Taliban.

... The religious are
citizens also, and are being tyrannized by a minority.


How so? By being prohibited from practicing their religion?

No.

You seem to be confused. "Freedom of religion" does not mean freedom to
impose your religious beliefs on others.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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Bill McKee wrote:
There is a very vocal minority(?) that is pushing for absolutely no
mention of religion or icons of religion in public areas.

There is no prohibition on display of religion or icons (for the Russian
Orthodox among us, I guess) in public places.

It *is* prohibited from spending public money on religious displays. Big
difference.



You better do a little more research as to religious displays. And icons
can be non Russian Orthodox also.

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 03:57:32 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

There is a very vocal minority(?) that is pushing for absolutely no mention
of religion or icons of religion in public areas. The religious are
citizens also, and are being tyrannized by a minority.

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OK, so we decide that religious icons, etc. are OK in public
(governmental) areas. Which religions will be given official
sanction? That's where the constitutional issue comes into play. The
religious have this unfortunate habit of assuming that THEIR religion
is the only one worth recognizing.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 03:57:32 GMT, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

There is a very vocal minority(?) that is pushing for absolutely no
mention
of religion or icons of religion in public areas. The religious are
citizens also, and are being tyrannized by a minority.

==========================================

OK, so we decide that religious icons, etc. are OK in public
(governmental) areas. Which religions will be given official
sanction? That's where the constitutional issue comes into play. The
religious have this unfortunate habit of assuming that THEIR religion
is the only one worth recognizing.


Let any religion figure they are the chosen one. Government lets all
display as long as they do it with no government cost other than police
protection from those others that think htey are the chosen.