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Jim March 7th 04 11:29 PM

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Bush Exploits Photo of Dead Bodies, Despite Ban


As the nation headed for war last year, President Bush "clamped down" on
the media, extending and expanding a controversial policy that banned
reporters from photographing flag-draped caskets of soldiers killed in
combat 1. The White House said the policy was enforced to "spare the
feelings of military families." 2 Yet, in the very first television
advertisement of his 2004 campaign, the president has blanketed the
nation's airwaves with an image of "firefighters carrying a flag-draped
body" from the 9/11 wreckage at Ground Zero 3.

The hypocrisy of preventing Americans from receiving a "reminder of the
toll of war" at the very same time the president exploits an image of a
dead body for his own political gain has caused an outrage among
victims' families 4. Chris Burke, whose brother Tom died in the attacks,
said, "Using my dead friends and my dead brother for political
expediency is dead wrong. It's wrong, it's bad taste and an insult to
the 3,000 people who died on Sept. 11." 5

The president's actions have also raised new credibility questions
because he previously promised not to exploit the 9/11 attacks. Speaking
of 9/11 in January 2003, President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue." 6

Sources:

1. "Return of U.S. war dead kept solemn, secret", USA Today, 12/30/2003.
2. "Pentagon avoids the 'Dover test'", The News Journal, 11/26/2003.
3. "Relatives of those slain on 9-11 fault Bush ads", Star-Telegram,
03/05/2004.
4. "Return of U.S. war dead kept solemn, secret", USA Today, 12/30/2003.
5. "Ads' use of 9/11 upsets families", Miami Herald, 03/05/2004.
6. "Sept. 11 and Nov. 2", The New York Times, 03/05/2004.


John H March 8th 04 02:21 AM

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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:29:43 -0500, Jim wrote:

Bush Exploits Photo of Dead Bodies, Despite Ban


As the nation headed for war last year, President Bush "clamped down" on
the media, extending and expanding a controversial policy that banned
reporters from photographing flag-draped caskets of soldiers killed in
combat 1. The White House said the policy was enforced to "spare the
feelings of military families." 2 Yet, in the very first television
advertisement of his 2004 campaign, the president has blanketed the
nation's airwaves with an image of "firefighters carrying a flag-draped
body" from the 9/11 wreckage at Ground Zero 3.

The hypocrisy of preventing Americans from receiving a "reminder of the
toll of war" at the very same time the president exploits an image of a
dead body for his own political gain has caused an outrage among
victims' families 4. Chris Burke, whose brother Tom died in the attacks,
said, "Using my dead friends and my dead brother for political
expediency is dead wrong. It's wrong, it's bad taste and an insult to
the 3,000 people who died on Sept. 11." 5

The president's actions have also raised new credibility questions
because he previously promised not to exploit the 9/11 attacks. Speaking
of 9/11 in January 2003, President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue." 6

Sources:

1. "Return of U.S. war dead kept solemn, secret", USA Today, 12/30/2003.
2. "Pentagon avoids the 'Dover test'", The News Journal, 11/26/2003.
3. "Relatives of those slain on 9-11 fault Bush ads", Star-Telegram,
03/05/2004.
4. "Return of U.S. war dead kept solemn, secret", USA Today, 12/30/2003.
5. "Ads' use of 9/11 upsets families", Miami Herald, 03/05/2004.
6. "Sept. 11 and Nov. 2", The New York Times, 03/05/2004.


The policy was Clinton's.

Does Kerry exploit the Vietnam War? Which of the two events produced
the most bodies?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Jim March 8th 04 02:34 AM

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John H wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:29:43 -0500, Jim wrote:


Bush Exploits Photo of Dead Bodies, Despite Ban


As the nation headed for war last year, President Bush "clamped down" on
the media, extending and expanding a controversial policy that banned
reporters from photographing flag-draped caskets of soldiers killed in
combat 1. The White House said the policy was enforced to "spare the
feelings of military families." 2 Yet, in the very first television
advertisement of his 2004 campaign, the president has blanketed the
nation's airwaves with an image of "firefighters carrying a flag-draped
body" from the 9/11 wreckage at Ground Zero 3.

The hypocrisy of preventing Americans from receiving a "reminder of the
toll of war" at the very same time the president exploits an image of a
dead body for his own political gain has caused an outrage among
victims' families 4. Chris Burke, whose brother Tom died in the attacks,
said, "Using my dead friends and my dead brother for political
expediency is dead wrong. It's wrong, it's bad taste and an insult to
the 3,000 people who died on Sept. 11." 5

The president's actions have also raised new credibility questions
because he previously promised not to exploit the 9/11 attacks. Speaking
of 9/11 in January 2003, President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue." 6

Sources:

1. "Return of U.S. war dead kept solemn, secret", USA Today, 12/30/2003.
2. "Pentagon avoids the 'Dover test'", The News Journal, 11/26/2003.
3. "Relatives of those slain on 9-11 fault Bush ads", Star-Telegram,
03/05/2004.
4. "Return of U.S. war dead kept solemn, secret", USA Today, 12/30/2003.
5. "Ads' use of 9/11 upsets families", Miami Herald, 03/05/2004.
6. "Sept. 11 and Nov. 2", The New York Times, 03/05/2004.



The policy was Clinton's.


Cite a reference please. And if Bush doesn't agree, why did he not
change it?

But apparently he DID for his political benefit

Speaking of 9/11 in January 2003, President Bush told the Associated
Press that he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."



Does Kerry exploit the Vietnam War? Which of the two events produced
the most bodies?


And how does this relate to what Bush says vs what he does?


Speaking of 9/11 in January 2003, President Bush told the Associated
Press that he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."


jchaplain March 8th 04 02:49 AM

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Does Kerry exploit the Vietnam War? Which of the two events produced
the most bodies?

John H

There is a BIG difference...using pictures of yourself fighting and
using pictures of an event that happened when you were supposed to be
in charge of our contries security.

Oh, that's right, there are NO pictures of Bush in combat...that
never happened. So he's using pictures of others dying in hope of
getting some sympathy for himself....pretty sad.

thunder March 8th 04 03:31 AM

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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 21:21:07 -0500, John H wrote:

The policy was Clinton's.


More than a little disingenuous, wouldn't you say. Yes, the policy was
continued under the Clinton administration, but it was instituted by Bush
I, and was limited to Dover. Under the present administration, just
before the Iraq War, the ban on filming caskets was extended to all bases.

http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/houseofthedead/85.html

Jim March 8th 04 04:19 AM

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President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

For once we agree


John Gaquin March 8th 04 04:48 AM

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"Jim" wrote in message

......policy that banned
reporters from photographing flag-draped caskets of soldiers killed in
combat .



..... an image of "firefighters carrying a flag-draped
body" from the 9/11 wreckage at Ground Zero .


A photo of an attack 2-1/2 years ago, and a photo of the coffin of a soldier
killed last week are two very different things. I can see the difference,
and I'm sure you can, too -- should you care to admit it.

The avoidance of news images of dead US soldiers is not at all new, much as
you'd love to blame it on the President. In WW-II, I believe it was some
time in late 1943 before any image at all of a killed GI was shown in a US
newspaper.






[email protected] March 8th 04 05:19 AM

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"jchaplain" wrote in message
...
There is a BIG difference...using pictures of yourself fighting and
using pictures of an event that happened when you were supposed to be
in charge of our contries security.



You can't truly be this stupid - Bush had been in office for a very short
time when 9/11 happened, and nobody predicted it would happen. We (the
country as a whole) should have been more proactive in preventing the spread
of terrorism but we did not. Hindsight is 20/20. I know the fact that Bush
cannot be blamed for not foreseeing 9/11 doesn't fit your agenda, but it's
the truth.



Oh, that's right, there are NO pictures of Bush in combat...that
never happened. So he's using pictures of others dying in hope of
getting some sympathy for himself....pretty sad.


No, he's using the fact that he stepped up to fight terrorism as a pillar of
his campaign. He is leading the country, making the tough decisions, I
doubt your buy Gore would have been able to handle it.

Can't wait till November, it's gonna be a blast!



Bert Robbins March 8th 04 12:19 PM

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"Jim" wrote in message
...


John H wrote:
Does Kerry exploit the Vietnam War? Which of the two events produced
the most bodies?


And how does this relate to what Bush says vs what he does?


Blinded by stupidity. Both Bush and Kerry are using an issue where americans
died to advance ascended to the presidency or remain president. However,
Kerry has a leadership problem. The last time he led anyone was in Vietnam,
since then he has been a consensus builder and not a leader. Bush has been a
governor and the president.



basskisser March 8th 04 12:20 PM

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"Jim" wrote in message

......policy that banned
reporters from photographing flag-draped caskets of soldiers killed in
combat .



..... an image of "firefighters carrying a flag-draped
body" from the 9/11 wreckage at Ground Zero .


A photo of an attack 2-1/2 years ago, and a photo of the coffin of a soldier
killed last week are two very different things. I can see the difference,
and I'm sure you can, too -- should you care to admit it.


And I can see the similarities, and I'm sure you can too, should you
care to admit it.

Harry Krause March 8th 04 02:34 PM

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Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...


John H wrote:

Does Kerry exploit the Vietnam War? Which of the two events produced
the most bodies?


And how does this relate to what Bush says vs what he does?



Blinded by stupidity. Both Bush and Kerry are using an issue where americans
died to advance ascended to the presidency or remain president. However,
Kerry has a leadership problem. The last time he led anyone was in Vietnam,
since then he has been a consensus builder and not a leader. Bush has been a
governor and the president.


And a total failure at both, just as he has failed at everything in his
adult life.

DSK March 8th 04 04:29 PM

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Bert Robbins wrote:
...Kerry has a leadership problem. The last time he led anyone was in Vietnam,
since then he has been a consensus builder and not a leader. Bush has been a
governor and the president.


Well, golly gee, Bush promised to be a uniter, not a divider. The
Bush/Cheney campaign promoted his record of 'building concensus' in
Texas, although his actual record didn't seem to show it much.

So you are saying that Bush is *not* a concensus builder, but instead
tries to stamp out dissent? That sounds about right to me... but it is
not IMHO a desirable characteristic in the leader of a "free" country.

DSK


John H March 8th 04 07:09 PM

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:29:15 -0500, DSK wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
...Kerry has a leadership problem. The last time he led anyone was in Vietnam,
since then he has been a consensus builder and not a leader. Bush has been a
governor and the president.


Well, golly gee, Bush promised to be a uniter, not a divider. The
Bush/Cheney campaign promoted his record of 'building concensus' in
Texas, although his actual record didn't seem to show it much.

So you are saying that Bush is *not* a concensus builder, but instead
tries to stamp out dissent? That sounds about right to me... but it is
not IMHO a desirable characteristic in the leader of a "free" country.

DSK


Here is an example of consensus building:

The Coalition Forces
The world, working together, to make a difference

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At this time, 35 countries, in addition to the United States, have
contributed a total of approximately 22,000 troops to ongoing
stability operations in Iraq. These 34 are Albania, Australia,
Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary,
Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova,
Mongolia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland,
Portugal, Thailand, the Philippines, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea,
Spain, Ukraine and the United Kingdom


John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H March 8th 04 07:09 PM

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 02:49:14 GMT, jchaplain wrote:


Does Kerry exploit the Vietnam War? Which of the two events produced
the most bodies?

John H

There is a BIG difference...using pictures of yourself fighting and
using pictures of an event that happened when you were supposed to be
in charge of our contries security.

Oh, that's right, there are NO pictures of Bush in combat...that
never happened. So he's using pictures of others dying in hope of
getting some sympathy for himself....pretty sad.


I've seen no pictures of Kerry fighting. I've seen pictures he had
taken of himself carrying an M-16.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H March 8th 04 07:09 PM

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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:19:25 -0500, Jim wrote:

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

President Bush told the Associated Press that
he had "no ambition whatsoever to use this as a political issue."

John H wrote:
What horse****!

For once we agree


You're getting quite creative. Cool!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Charles March 8th 04 07:36 PM

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Harry Krause wrote:


And a total failure at both, just as he has failed at everything in his
adult life.


Bush is POTUS. You're a sad little man.

According to you, Bush is a failure.

What's wrong with this picture?

-- Charlie

DSK March 9th 04 12:39 PM

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John H wrote:
Here is an example of consensus building:

The Coalition Forces
The world, working together, to make a difference


ROFL

Thanks John! Always start the day with a good laugh.

DSK


basskisser March 9th 04 03:41 PM

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John H wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:29:15 -0500, DSK wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
...Kerry has a leadership problem. The last time he led anyone was in Vietnam,
since then he has been a consensus builder and not a leader. Bush has been a
governor and the president.


Well, golly gee, Bush promised to be a uniter, not a divider. The
Bush/Cheney campaign promoted his record of 'building concensus' in
Texas, although his actual record didn't seem to show it much.

So you are saying that Bush is *not* a concensus builder, but instead
tries to stamp out dissent? That sounds about right to me... but it is
not IMHO a desirable characteristic in the leader of a "free" country.

DSK


Here is an example of consensus building:

The Coalition Forces
The world, working together, to make a difference

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At this time, 35 countries, in addition to the United States, have
contributed a total of approximately 22,000 troops to ongoing
stability operations in Iraq. These 34 are Albania, Australia,
Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary,
Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova,
Mongolia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland,
Portugal, Thailand, the Philippines, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea,
Spain, Ukraine and the United Kingdom


John H


35 out of 90-something. That's almost a third, and most of those have
only commited to humanitarian efforts.

basskisser March 9th 04 03:42 PM

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Charles wrote in message ...
Harry Krause wrote:


And a total failure at both, just as he has failed at everything in his
adult life.


Bush is POTUS. You're a sad little man.

According to you, Bush is a failure.

What's wrong with this picture?

-- Charlie



Nothing wrong with that picture. Bush IS a failure.

John H March 9th 04 03:58 PM

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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 07:39:10 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Here is an example of consensus building:

The Coalition Forces
The world, working together, to make a difference


ROFL

Thanks John! Always start the day with a good laugh.

DSK

Thought you'd like it!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H March 9th 04 07:09 PM

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On 9 Mar 2004 07:41:46 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

John H wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:29:15 -0500, DSK wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
...Kerry has a leadership problem. The last time he led anyone was in Vietnam,
since then he has been a consensus builder and not a leader. Bush has been a
governor and the president.

Well, golly gee, Bush promised to be a uniter, not a divider. The
Bush/Cheney campaign promoted his record of 'building concensus' in
Texas, although his actual record didn't seem to show it much.

So you are saying that Bush is *not* a concensus builder, but instead
tries to stamp out dissent? That sounds about right to me... but it is
not IMHO a desirable characteristic in the leader of a "free" country.

DSK


Here is an example of consensus building:

The Coalition Forces
The world, working together, to make a difference

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At this time, 35 countries, in addition to the United States, have
contributed a total of approximately 22,000 troops to ongoing
stability operations in Iraq. These 34 are Albania, Australia,
Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary,
Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova,
Mongolia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland,
Portugal, Thailand, the Philippines, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea,
Spain, Ukraine and the United Kingdom


John H


35 out of 90-something. That's almost a third, and most of those have
only commited to humanitarian efforts.


Which of the remaining 60-something would you consider important
additions, Cuba, Haiti, Zaire, Russia, North Korea...?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Charles March 9th 04 09:04 PM

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basskisser wrote:

Charles wrote in message ...
Harry Krause wrote:


And a total failure at both, just as he has failed at everything in his
adult life.


Bush is POTUS. You're a sad little man.

According to you, Bush is a failure.

What's wrong with this picture?

-- Charlie


Nothing wrong with that picture. Bush IS a failure.



Not to disappoint you, but I wasn't expecting the class dunce to see
anything wrong with that picture.

-- Charlie

DSK March 9th 04 09:10 PM

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John H wrote:
Thought you'd like it!


Actually, as for the real situation, I don't like it one bit.

BushCo telling the UN to bugger off, while using UN resolutions as a
reason for the war, then begging them to come back and help...
aggravating the Turks (along with several other long standing & staunch
allies) to play up to the Kurds, who are more complicit with Al Queda
than with the US... using various foreign aid goodies to bribe a long
list of countries to agree to be part of the "coalition" while turning a
deaf ear to suggestions for earnest cooperation from other major
powers... the list goes on.

For you to say "I'm NOT a BushCo cheerleader, really I'm not!" while
touting the Iraq war as an example of consensus building.... now *that*
was funny... in a sick sort of way.

DSK


John H March 9th 04 11:12 PM

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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 16:10:53 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
Thought you'd like it!


Actually, as for the real situation, I don't like it one bit.

BushCo telling the UN to bugger off, while using UN resolutions as a
reason for the war, then begging them to come back and help...
aggravating the Turks (along with several other long standing & staunch
allies) to play up to the Kurds, who are more complicit with Al Queda
than with the US... using various foreign aid goodies to bribe a long
list of countries to agree to be part of the "coalition" while turning a
deaf ear to suggestions for earnest cooperation from other major
powers... the list goes on.

For you to say "I'm NOT a BushCo cheerleader, really I'm not!" while
touting the Iraq war as an example of consensus building.... now *that*
was funny... in a sick sort of way.

DSK


Once Kerry won the Democrat nomination, I became an official Bush
cheerleader.

Below is an example of Bush being a consensus builder. What countries
must be added for you to be happy? Regardless of how much the
countries contributed, they *approved* the war.

Are the "major powers" to which you refer Germany, Russia, and France?
Personally, I'd put Australia, Japan, and the United Kingdom ahead of
all of them.

Here is an example of consensus building:

The Coalition Forces
The world, working together, to make a difference

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At this time, 35 countries, in addition to the United States, have
contributed a total of approximately 22,000 troops to ongoing
stability operations in Iraq. These 34 are Albania, Australia,
Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary,
Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova,
Mongolia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland,
Portugal, Thailand, the Philippines, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea,
Spain, Ukraine and the United Kingdom

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Jim-- March 9th 04 11:31 PM

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"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
John H wrote in message

. ..
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:29:15 -0500, DSK wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
...Kerry has a leadership problem. The last time he led anyone was in

Vietnam,
since then he has been a consensus builder and not a leader. Bush has

been a
governor and the president.

Well, golly gee, Bush promised to be a uniter, not a divider. The
Bush/Cheney campaign promoted his record of 'building concensus' in
Texas, although his actual record didn't seem to show it much.

So you are saying that Bush is *not* a concensus builder, but instead
tries to stamp out dissent? That sounds about right to me... but it is
not IMHO a desirable characteristic in the leader of a "free" country.

DSK


Here is an example of consensus building:

The Coalition Forces
The world, working together, to make a difference


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

------

At this time, 35 countries, in addition to the United States, have
contributed a total of approximately 22,000 troops to ongoing
stability operations in Iraq. These 34 are Albania, Australia,
Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary,
Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova,
Mongolia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland,
Portugal, Thailand, the Philippines, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea,
Spain, Ukraine and the United Kingdom


John H


35 out of 90-something. That's almost a third, and most of those have
only commited to humanitarian efforts.


35 out of 90 is *almost* a third? LMAO!!



basskisser March 10th 04 04:00 PM

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"Jim--" wrote in message news:RYCdnYXn2eAzydPdRVn-
35 out of 90-something. That's almost a third, and most of those have
only commited to humanitarian efforts.


35 out of 90 is *almost* a third? LMAO!!



Are you saying that it's NOT almost a third? The number is greater
than 90, to start with. I know your comprehension is a little slow,
but, that is why I said 90-something. Now, if it's 99, then the
percentage would be 35.353535%. Now, I contend that that is, indeed,
almost a third. It is greater than a third by 2.0202020%, making it
quite close to a third, would you not agree? SO, why would someone
think that a number that is a mere 2% off, would not be "almost" a
third? It is closer, if we are using commonly used fractional terms,
than half, or a quarter. If you were going to use an approximation,
I'd say almost a third, is right on the mark.

basskisser March 10th 04 04:02 PM

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"Jim--" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
m...
John H wrote in message

. ..
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:29:15 -0500, DSK wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
...Kerry has a leadership problem. The last time he led anyone was in

Vietnam,
since then he has been a consensus builder and not a leader. Bush has

been a
governor and the president.

Well, golly gee, Bush promised to be a uniter, not a divider. The
Bush/Cheney campaign promoted his record of 'building concensus' in
Texas, although his actual record didn't seem to show it much.

So you are saying that Bush is *not* a concensus builder, but instead
tries to stamp out dissent? That sounds about right to me... but it is
not IMHO a desirable characteristic in the leader of a "free" country.

DSK

Here is an example of consensus building:

The Coalition Forces
The world, working together, to make a difference


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

------

At this time, 35 countries, in addition to the United States, have
contributed a total of approximately 22,000 troops to ongoing
stability operations in Iraq. These 34 are Albania, Australia,
Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the
Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary,
Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova,
Mongolia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland,
Portugal, Thailand, the Philippines, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea,
Spain, Ukraine and the United Kingdom


John H


35 out of 90-something. That's almost a third, and most of those have
only commited to humanitarian efforts.


35 out of 90 is *almost* a third? LMAO!!


Oh, yeah, and another thing, the actual number of countries of the
world, although slightly debatable, is 193, I was wrong. It's more
like ALMOST 18%

John Gaquin March 10th 04 05:57 PM

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"basskisser" wrote in message

Are you saying that it's NOT almost a third? The number is greater
than 90, to start with. I know your comprehension is a little slow,
but, that is why I said 90-something. Now, if it's 99, then the
percentage would be 35.353535%. Now, I contend that that is, indeed,
almost a third. It is greater than a third by 2.0202020%, making it
quite close to a third, would you not agree? SO, why would someone
think that a number that is a mere 2% off, would not be "almost" a
third? It is closer, if we are using commonly used fractional terms,
than half, or a quarter. If you were going to use an approximation,
I'd say almost a third, is right on the mark.


God, I love the sound of tap-dancing in the morning!



Jim-- March 10th 04 06:19 PM

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message

Are you saying that it's NOT almost a third? The number is greater
than 90, to start with. I know your comprehension is a little slow,
but, that is why I said 90-something. Now, if it's 99, then the
percentage would be 35.353535%. Now, I contend that that is, indeed,
almost a third. It is greater than a third by 2.0202020%, making it
quite close to a third, would you not agree? SO, why would someone
think that a number that is a mere 2% off, would not be "almost" a
third? It is closer, if we are using commonly used fractional terms,
than half, or a quarter. If you were going to use an approximation,
I'd say almost a third, is right on the mark.


God, I love the sound of tap-dancing in the morning!



Old Basskisser is quite a commedian John. He is obviously not too good at
math though, which should be an engineers strong point.



John H March 10th 04 09:03 PM

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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:19:10 -0500, "Jim--" wrote:


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message

Are you saying that it's NOT almost a third? The number is greater
than 90, to start with. I know your comprehension is a little slow,
but, that is why I said 90-something. Now, if it's 99, then the
percentage would be 35.353535%. Now, I contend that that is, indeed,
almost a third. It is greater than a third by 2.0202020%, making it
quite close to a third, would you not agree? SO, why would someone
think that a number that is a mere 2% off, would not be "almost" a
third? It is closer, if we are using commonly used fractional terms,
than half, or a quarter. If you were going to use an approximation,
I'd say almost a third, is right on the mark.


God, I love the sound of tap-dancing in the morning!



Old Basskisser is quite a commedian John. He is obviously not too good at
math though, which should be an engineers strong point.

What's worse is that b'asskisser thinks someone really cares what he
thinks!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

basskisser March 11th 04 12:27 PM

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John H wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:19:10 -0500, "Jim--" wrote:


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message

Are you saying that it's NOT almost a third? The number is greater
than 90, to start with. I know your comprehension is a little slow,
but, that is why I said 90-something. Now, if it's 99, then the
percentage would be 35.353535%. Now, I contend that that is, indeed,
almost a third. It is greater than a third by 2.0202020%, making it
quite close to a third, would you not agree? SO, why would someone
think that a number that is a mere 2% off, would not be "almost" a
third? It is closer, if we are using commonly used fractional terms,
than half, or a quarter. If you were going to use an approximation,
I'd say almost a third, is right on the mark.

God, I love the sound of tap-dancing in the morning!



Old Basskisser is quite a commedian John. He is obviously not too good at
math though, which should be an engineers strong point.

What's worse is that b'asskisser thinks someone really cares what he
thinks!

John H

Please show where the above is false.

basskisser March 11th 04 12:28 PM

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"Jim--" wrote in message ...
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message

Are you saying that it's NOT almost a third? The number is greater
than 90, to start with. I know your comprehension is a little slow,
but, that is why I said 90-something. Now, if it's 99, then the
percentage would be 35.353535%. Now, I contend that that is, indeed,
almost a third. It is greater than a third by 2.0202020%, making it
quite close to a third, would you not agree? SO, why would someone
think that a number that is a mere 2% off, would not be "almost" a
third? It is closer, if we are using commonly used fractional terms,
than half, or a quarter. If you were going to use an approximation,
I'd say almost a third, is right on the mark.


God, I love the sound of tap-dancing in the morning!



Old Basskisser is quite a commedian John. He is obviously not too good at
math though, which should be an engineers strong point.


What math above is false, Jim--? Remember now, these are
approximations, hence the ALMOST.

basskisser March 11th 04 12:29 PM

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message

Are you saying that it's NOT almost a third? The number is greater
than 90, to start with. I know your comprehension is a little slow,
but, that is why I said 90-something. Now, if it's 99, then the
percentage would be 35.353535%. Now, I contend that that is, indeed,
almost a third. It is greater than a third by 2.0202020%, making it
quite close to a third, would you not agree? SO, why would someone
think that a number that is a mere 2% off, would not be "almost" a
third? It is closer, if we are using commonly used fractional terms,
than half, or a quarter. If you were going to use an approximation,
I'd say almost a third, is right on the mark.


God, I love the sound of tap-dancing in the morning!


what in the above is "tap dancing"? True statements, all.

Jim-- March 11th 04 12:40 PM

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"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Jim--" wrote in message

...
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message

Are you saying that it's NOT almost a third? The number is greater
than 90, to start with. I know your comprehension is a little slow,
but, that is why I said 90-something. Now, if it's 99, then the
percentage would be 35.353535%. Now, I contend that that is, indeed,
almost a third. It is greater than a third by 2.0202020%, making it
quite close to a third, would you not agree? SO, why would someone
think that a number that is a mere 2% off, would not be "almost" a
third? It is closer, if we are using commonly used fractional terms,
than half, or a quarter. If you were going to use an approximation,
I'd say almost a third, is right on the mark.

God, I love the sound of tap-dancing in the morning!



Old Basskisser is quite a commedian John. He is obviously not too good

at
math though, which should be an engineers strong point.


What math above is false, Jim--? Remember now, these are
approximations, hence the ALMOST.


In the context of your original post you should have said "more than" a
third, not "almost" a third.

No big deal. Laugh it off and move on. We all make mistakes.



basskisser March 15th 04 01:43 PM

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"Jim--" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"Jim--" wrote in message

...
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message

Are you saying that it's NOT almost a third? The number is greater
than 90, to start with. I know your comprehension is a little slow,
but, that is why I said 90-something. Now, if it's 99, then the
percentage would be 35.353535%. Now, I contend that that is, indeed,
almost a third. It is greater than a third by 2.0202020%, making it
quite close to a third, would you not agree? SO, why would someone
think that a number that is a mere 2% off, would not be "almost" a
third? It is closer, if we are using commonly used fractional terms,
than half, or a quarter. If you were going to use an approximation,
I'd say almost a third, is right on the mark.

God, I love the sound of tap-dancing in the morning!



Old Basskisser is quite a commedian John. He is obviously not too good

at
math though, which should be an engineers strong point.


What math above is false, Jim--? Remember now, these are
approximations, hence the ALMOST.


In the context of your original post you should have said "more than" a
third, not "almost" a third.

No big deal. Laugh it off and move on. We all make mistakes.


Please show where I made a mistake. Almost can be less than, or more
than. If you don't understand that, then you shouldn't be reading and
trying to undermine ANY post.

Parallax March 15th 04 10:32 PM

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"Jim" wrote in message

......policy that banned
reporters from photographing flag-draped caskets of soldiers killed in
combat .



..... an image of "firefighters carrying a flag-draped
body" from the 9/11 wreckage at Ground Zero .


A photo of an attack 2-1/2 years ago, and a photo of the coffin of a soldier
killed last week are two very different things. I can see the difference,
and I'm sure you can, too -- should you care to admit it.


And I can see the similarities, and I'm sure you can too, should you
care to admit it.


In general, the market for x-ray optics is slowly improving as OEMs
slowly "get it". However, most OEM companies have little talent for
innovation so have little capability to invent anything themselves.
This means that those of us on the front techno-lines will constantly
be doing the innovation and then bashing the OEMs on the haid till
they unnerstand.
(another random post from my collection)


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