boat partner advice -- anyone with experience?
 

Dustin wrote:
My wife and I currently own an 18' Chaparral, and we're considering
the idea of getting a boat partner.

Well, it won't cost that much to advertise '1/2 share of boat for sale'
so try and see what you're offered.

Usually boat partnerships are either 1- charter agreements disguised as
partnership, or membership in a club; these have full time management &
repair personnel OR 2- boating friends who agree to buy a boat together.
I guess you could try to sell a share in a boat but I have not seen this.

I owned two large sailboats in a partnership for a couple of years. They
were for the express purpose of racing, and all the partners were on
board each time the boats were sailed. It worked fairly well,
disregarding minor arguments about whether we should take turns as
skipper, or go by the best result (ie did we want to win or piddle
around 'having fun'). On the whole it was fun, it certainly was not
nearly as expensive as buying & campaigning such a boat myself, but I
would not do it again.

Fair Skies
Doug King

boat partner advice -- anyone with experience?
 

Hi Dustin,

I am a partner in a boat rental and charter company. So, I "own" a
percentage in all the boats. I also own a percentage in the liabilities. And
believe me, there are a lot of liabilities.

We are set up as a corporation. We have shareholders, and issue stock
certificates (Not public). The liability is spread around pretty well. No
one will get hurt if the corporation is sued for injury or somesuch.

One of the main issues we face is damage from inexperienced boaters. Last
year we had 42 groundings, all of which caused a "little" ($50.00 or less)
damage, some caused a lot ($100 or more), as with replacing props or lower
units.

You would be surprised at the number of gremlins that tear up boats, and
nobody saw a thing!

Maintenance is also a big factor. We averaged it out to be about 1200/
year per outboard powered unit and 8900/year for the offshore boats. Not
including dockage.

You will find that if 2 women get involved, your problems will multiply
exponentially. Rarely have I ever seen such squabbles of nickels and dimes
as wives will get into. Even with their "best friends".

Want my advice as to sharing your boat?

DON'T DO IT!

--
Capt. Frank

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"Dustin" -o-m wrote in message
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My wife and I currently own an 18' Chaparral, and we're considering
the idea of getting a boat partner. The main reason is that,
currently, the boat is stored in the garage, and we'd like to store it
out on the lake instead. So we're considering going in with another
responsible person/couple, but seeing this is our first venture like
this, we're not sure how to proceed.

A few questions:

(1) Boat rental vs. boat ownership -- what is considered normal in
these types of situations? If we allow partial boat ownership by our
partner, I'm assuming we should expect them to pay us half the boat's
value up front, and then split costs 50/50 as far as slip cost,
maintenance, repairs, etc? (Anyone have experience with doing some
sort of payment program, where the partial owner pays a higher monthly
cost for, say, a year in order to own the boat?)

(2) If the other party decides on boat rental (i.e. we let them cover
the costs of the slip, and we let them use our boat), should we expect
them to cover maintenance costs? I estimate the boat is worth
approximately $9000, and a slip in this area is about $200/month. I
wouldn't necessarily mind covering maintenance costs if the other
party decides on rental/access, but if the other party is using the
boat excessively, isn't it fair to expect them to pay something? I'm
not sure how to work this into an actual contract.

(3) I'm sure we definitely want a contract of some sort, otherwise the
other party could just rent the boat for 3-4 months during the summer
and then leave us hanging with the expense over the winter?

(4) What's a fair amount to expect someone to pay for boat access
(rental) and not necessarily ownership? I estimate the boat costs us
about $300/month since we're still financing it (and this includes
wear and tear maintenance type of stuff). If a slip is an extra
$200/month, is $200/month for boat access way too much? We're in
Austin, where boat access is a premium because it's in such a high
demand with all the lakes.

Just looking for some advice, mainly because we really think this
could be a great way to cut our costs, get the boat out of our 2 car
garage, and have someone else to help out.

Thanks in advance..

-Dustin