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$150 hike for private health cover By Misha Schubert February 28, 2004 MILLIONS of families will be slugged an extra $150 a year for private health insurance after federal Health Minister Tony Abbott gave the green light for funds to raise premiums by an average 7.6per cent. The increase - to take effect from April 1 - means consumers will be forced to pay 22per cent - or about $450 - more this year than they did three years ago for exactly the same cover. Mr Abbott and the health funds defended the hike, saying it was essential to keep the sector viable and cover mounting costs for private health services for their members. But Labor accused the Government of breaking a 2001 election pledge that its private health policies would drive down premiums. The latest rise comes at the start of an election year in which health will be a hotly contested issue. The hike will cost an insured family an extra $3 a week, or $156 a year, on average. Taxpayers will also be hit hard: it will cost the public purse an extra $180million a year through the 30per cent private health rebate, which now takes $2.5billion from the federal budget every year. Mr Abbott said the increase was unavoidable, and denied it would result in people dropping private health cover. "The cost of repairing your car has gone up," he said, "the cost of insuring your house has gone up, the cost of buying your groceries has gone up - why should this product ... be the only product that never has an increase?" But Labor health spokeswoman Julia Gillard claimed Prime Minister John Howard had broken his 2001 election pledge that his private health policies would result in "downward pressure" on premiums. "Tony Abbott should be doing his job and putting pressure on private health insurers to keep premiums down," she said. Democrats health spokeswoman Lyn Allison said the increase - at three times the rate of inflation - was proof the Government had failed to contain costs. Consumers Health Forum chairman Mitch Messer said the rise would be blow for battling families. "We were told premiums would come down, but they just keep rising," he said. "And it's families on lower incomes who bear the brunt of continuous rises like those we have seen in recent years." But Gayle Ginnane, who heads industry regulator the Private Health Insurance Administration Council, said the increases were needed to prevent the nation's 44 health funds from collapsing. "These are not-for-profit businesses by and large, so if they don't maintain capital, they would fail - and no one wants an HIH in this industry." Australian Health Insurance Association chief Russell Schneider said the price hike was modest given the increases in the cost of private hospital care and prosthetics such as hip replacements and heart stents. "You'd hardly call it a savage increase," he said. The nation's largest health fund, Medibank Private, won approval for an 8.95per cent increase this year, which managing director George Savvides said was forced by the rocketing cost of care. "Australians enjoy a world-class mixed healthcare system that provides access to the latest medical treatments, drugs and appliances," he said. "But the cost of keeping pace with the latest healthcare treatments continues to rise." Doctors Reform Society president Tim Woodruff said the increase would help a "rich minority of Australians while the majority are left to the ailing public hospital system". |
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In article , "NOYB" wrote:
Think government-controlled health coverage will work? Think again! You mean that it won't? Gosh I am so disillusioned! |
OT-Think government-controlled health coverage will work? Think again!
"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message hlink.net... In article , "NOYB" wrote: Think government-controlled health coverage will work? Think again! You mean that it won't? Gosh I am so disillusioned! Take a peek at the *health* of Don's government run healthcare system in Canada. Another socialist program gone bad. Do you see a trend? |
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Jim-- wrote in message ... Take a peek at the *health* of Don's government run healthcare system in Canada. Another socialist program gone bad. Do you see a trend? If we had a fraction of the money spent on health care in the US our system would be the Rolls Royce of the free world. The problem with our system is that the federal gov't keeps dropping their fair share...leaving about 80 of the costs on the province's back. When it all started..the split was closer to 50/50. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... If we had...snip The liberal's mantra: "If we only had a little bit more taxpayer money, we could..." It's like buying a few more dozen bilge pumps for a leaky boat. The pumps might keep it afloat for awhile...but it's still a leaky boat that'sventually egoing to sink. |
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NOYB wrote in message om... "Don White" wrote in message ... If we had...snip The liberal's mantra: "If we only had a little bit more taxpayer money, we could..." It's like buying a few more dozen bilge pumps for a leaky boat. The pumps might keep it afloat for awhile...but it's still a leaky boat that'sventually egoing to sink. That so? What kind of 'great society' is it that can't even take care of all it's members health needs without putting them on the verge of bankruptcy. What are you worried about...that someone may regulate your exorbitant fees?? |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote in message om... "Don White" wrote in message ... If we had...snip The liberal's mantra: "If we only had a little bit more taxpayer money, we could..." It's like buying a few more dozen bilge pumps for a leaky boat. The pumps might keep it afloat for awhile...but it's still a leaky boat that'sventually egoing to sink. That so? What kind of 'great society' is it that can't even take care of all it's members health needs without putting them on the verge of bankruptcy. What are you worried about...that someone may regulate your exorbitant fees?? Why does society have to take care of me? The Great Society was an idiotic idea in the beginning and has turned into a massive money wasting failure. Shouldn't I be allowed to take care of myself? Why do you want to make decisions for me, you don't have my best interests in mind. Bert |
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Bert Robbins wrote in message ... Why does society have to take care of me? The Great Society was an idiotic idea in the beginning and has turned into a massive money wasting failure. Shouldn't I be allowed to take care of myself? Why do you want to make decisions for me, you don't have my best interests in mind. Bert Sure I do! Why are you so paranoid? |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote in message ... Why does society have to take care of me? The Great Society was an idiotic idea in the beginning and has turned into a massive money wasting failure. Shouldn't I be allowed to take care of myself? Why do you want to make decisions for me, you don't have my best interests in mind. Bert Sure I do! Why are you so paranoid? Why are you so defensive? |
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"Jim--" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote in message ... Why does society have to take care of me? The Great Society was an idiotic idea in the beginning and has turned into a massive money wasting failure. Shouldn't I be allowed to take care of myself? Why do you want to make decisions for me, you don't have my best interests in mind. Bert Sure I do! Why are you so paranoid? Why are you so defensive? And why does he defend his arguments with so many woulda', coulda', shoulda's. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message om... "Jim--" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote in message ... Why does society have to take care of me? The Great Society was an idiotic idea in the beginning and has turned into a massive money wasting failure. Shouldn't I be allowed to take care of myself? Why do you want to make decisions for me, you don't have my best interests in mind. Bert Sure I do! Why are you so paranoid? Why are you so defensive? And why does he defend his arguments with so many woulda', coulda', shoulda's. Because....he is a typical liberal. Offer excuses. Do not offer solutions other than "throw more money at it". :-) If you look at our spending on education, including the increases we see year after year, you would think that the state of schools/learning would improve. Not so. Don is a liberal who depends on the government to solve his problems and support him. Very typical and very sad. |
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In article , "Jim--" wrote:
"Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message thlink.net... In article , "NOYB" wrote: Think government-controlled health coverage will work? Think again! You mean that it won't? Gosh I am so disillusioned! Take a peek at the *health* of Don's government run healthcare system in Canada. Another socialist program gone bad. Do you see a trend? Is that true Don? I thought that you told me that the United Nations voted Canada as the best place to live? That can't be true can it? Gosh, that could sour my dream of immigrating and living in Canada. Please don't let it be so! |
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In article , "Don White" wrote:
Jim-- wrote in message ... Take a peek at the *health* of Don's government run healthcare system in Canada. Another socialist program gone bad. Do you see a trend? If we had a fraction of the money spent on health care in the US our system would be the Rolls Royce of the free world. I wonder what the actual proportion (monies spent) is as compared to population? The problem with our system is that the federal gov't keeps dropping their fair share...leaving about 80 of the costs on the province's back. When it all started..the split was closer to 50/50. |
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In article , "Don White" wrote:
NOYB wrote in message . com... "Don White" wrote in message ... If we had...snip The liberal's mantra: "If we only had a little bit more taxpayer money, we could..." It's like buying a few more dozen bilge pumps for a leaky boat. The pumps might keep it afloat for awhile...but it's still a leaky boat that'sventually egoing to sink. That so? What kind of 'great society' is it that can't even take care of all it's members health needs without putting them on the verge of bankruptcy. Do not forget that goverments do not actually produce income. Why is it the job of government to take care of everyone's health needs? What are you worried about...that someone may regulate your exorbitant fees?? |
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In article , "Bert Robbins" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote in message om... "Don White" wrote in message ... If we had...snip The liberal's mantra: "If we only had a little bit more taxpayer money, we could..." It's like buying a few more dozen bilge pumps for a leaky boat. The pumps might keep it afloat for awhile...but it's still a leaky boat that'sventually egoing to sink. That so? What kind of 'great society' is it that can't even take care of all it's members health needs without putting them on the verge of bankruptcy. What are you worried about...that someone may regulate your exorbitant fees?? Why does society have to take care of me? The Great Society was an idiotic idea in the beginning and has turned into a massive money wasting failure. Shouldn't I be allowed to take care of myself? Why do you want to make decisions for me, you don't have my best interests in mind. Bert But we want womb to the tomb bennies! womb to the tomb! womb to the tomb! womb to the tomb! boom boom boom |
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 05:32:55 +0000, Henry Blackmoore wrote:
I wonder what the actual proportion (monies spent) is as compared to population? US 14% gdp Canada 9% gdp (not the latest figures) http://www.mapleleafweb.com/features.../stack_up.html |
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Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:4sy2c.25944 Is that true Don? I thought that you told me that the United Nations voted Canada as the best place to live? That can't be true can it? Gosh, that could sour my dream of immigrating and living in Canada. Please don't let it be so! They sure did...two years running until a Scandinavian country knocked us back a peg. Wonder where Texas fit in on that scale? You can immigrate here if a/ you have any marketable talents b/ you leave your guns at home As a matter of fact...if you end up with another 4 years of George W, I'd recommend you apply early to avoid the rush. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:4sy2c.25944 Is that true Don? I thought that you told me that the United Nations voted Canada as the best place to live? That can't be true can it? Gosh, that could sour my dream of immigrating and living in Canada. Please don't let it be so! They sure did...two years running until a Scandinavian country knocked us back a peg. Wonder where Texas fit in on that scale? You can immigrate here if a/ you have any marketable talents b/ you leave your guns at home You forgot "c" and "d": c) you smoke pot d) you smoke pole |
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Goverment doesn't produce any income?...ROTFLMAO!!!!! Ahem! does these 3
letters sound familiar? I.R.S. "Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message hlink.net... In article , "Don White" wrote: NOYB wrote in message . com... "Don White" wrote in message ... If we had...snip The liberal's mantra: "If we only had a little bit more taxpayer money, we could..." It's like buying a few more dozen bilge pumps for a leaky boat. The pumps might keep it afloat for awhile...but it's still a leaky boat that'sventually egoing to sink. That so? What kind of 'great society' is it that can't even take care of all it's members health needs without putting them on the verge of bankruptcy. Do not forget that goverments do not actually produce income. Why is it the job of government to take care of everyone's health needs? What are you worried about...that someone may regulate your exorbitant fees?? |
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Despite your absurd assertion below the goverment still does not produce any
income, they confiscate money from those that produce income. "Carolyn Louise leigh" wrote in message ... Goverment doesn't produce any income?...ROTFLMAO!!!!! Ahem! does these 3 letters sound familiar? I.R.S. "Henry Blackmoore" wrote in message hlink.net... In article , "Don White" wrote: NOYB wrote in message . com... "Don White" wrote in message ... If we had...snip The liberal's mantra: "If we only had a little bit more taxpayer money, we could..." It's like buying a few more dozen bilge pumps for a leaky boat. The pumps might keep it afloat for awhile...but it's still a leaky boat that'sventually egoing to sink. That so? What kind of 'great society' is it that can't even take care of all it's members health needs without putting them on the verge of bankruptcy. Do not forget that goverments do not actually produce income. Why is it the job of government to take care of everyone's health needs? What are you worried about...that someone may regulate your exorbitant fees?? |
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Bert Robbins wrote:
Despite your absurd assertion below the goverment still does not produce any income, they confiscate money from those that produce income. Why would that concern you? |
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"NOYB" wrote in message . com...
"Don White" wrote in message ... Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:4sy2c.25944 Is that true Don? I thought that you told me that the United Nations voted Canada as the best place to live? That can't be true can it? Gosh, that could sour my dream of immigrating and living in Canada. Please don't let it be so! They sure did...two years running until a Scandinavian country knocked us back a peg. Wonder where Texas fit in on that scale? You can immigrate here if a/ you have any marketable talents b/ you leave your guns at home You forgot "c" and "d": c) you smoke pot d) you smoke pole Please provide any evidence of your wild allegations. |
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In article , "Don White" wrote:
Henry Blackmoore wrote in message news:4sy2c.25944 Is that true Don? I thought that you told me that the United Nations voted Canada as the best place to live? That can't be true can it? Gosh, that could sour my dream of immigrating and living in Canada. Please don't let it be so! They sure did...two years running until a Scandinavian country knocked us back a peg. Less alcoholics there?? Wonder where Texas fit in on that scale? Texans have all been on Prozac because we couldn't handle not making that list compiled by all the communists/socialists in the errr-uhhh United Nations... You can immigrate here if a/ you have any marketable talents b/ you leave your guns at home That is a just a 'stimulate the local economy' thing right? We could always buy more guns in Canada right? After all you have the right to protect your life and property up there don't you? As a matter of fact...if you end up with another 4 years of George W, I'd recommend you apply early to avoid the rush. Stick to local Mooseport politics Don and what you know.... |
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In article , "Bert Robbins" wrote:
Despite your absurd assertion below the goverment still does not produce any income, they confiscate money from those that produce income. Many folks do not understand the difference.... "Carolyn Louise leigh" wrote in message ... Goverment doesn't produce any income?...ROTFLMAO!!!!! Ahem! does these 3 |
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