Fuel consumption for Pro-line 211?
 

Does anyone have something that will tell me what the fuel consumption
expectations are for a Pro-line 211 walkaround with a 5.7L carbureted engine?

It's listed in the Powerboat Guide, which I'm too cheap to buy just to get this
question answered.

I'm also too cheap to put a fuel meter on it.

Actually, I'm so cheap I may not burn the electricity to turn this computer on
to get an answer....but I'll love you if you try.

Thanks!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Roughly 1-22 gph. There are too many variables: Alpha 1, Bravo 1,2, or
3, Volvo Penta, prop selection, load, fuel & water on board, sea
conditions, etc. The most important variable is your speed. You can
burn 1-2 gph at a crawl and about 20-22 at WOT.

If you want to economize - and your post hints to that - you *should*
buy a fuel meter. A boat running 2500 rpms at 21 knots can burn 6 gph
with that engine. That same boat at 3500 rpms and 34 knots can burn
around 12 gph - about double or half of the fuel economy. A fuel flow
meter can help you find your sweet spot, or cruising speed, to get the
best bang for your buck and pay off that meter in a short period of
time. Here's a boat with a Volvo 5.7 that was tested...

RPM MPH Knots GPH
650 3.7 3.2 0.9
1000 5.8 5.0 1.2
1500 8.1 7.0 3.4
2000 15.6 13.6 5.1
2500 24.4 21.2 6.0
3000 31.7 27.6 8.2
3500 39.6 34.4 11.8
4000 45.3 39.4 13.5
4500 49.9 43.3 17.2
4750 54.1 47.0 22.6

Dan




John H wrote:

Does anyone have something that will tell me what the fuel consumption
expectations are for a Pro-line 211 walkaround with a 5.7L carbureted engine?

It's listed in the Powerboat Guide, which I'm too cheap to buy just to get this
question answered.

I'm also too cheap to put a fuel meter on it.

Actually, I'm so cheap I may not burn the electricity to turn this computer on
to get an answer....but I'll love you if you try.

Thanks!

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:34:42 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

Roughly 1-22 gph. There are too many variables: Alpha 1, Bravo 1,2, or
3, Volvo Penta, prop selection, load, fuel & water on board, sea
conditions, etc. The most important variable is your speed. You can
burn 1-2 gph at a crawl and about 20-22 at WOT.

If you want to economize - and your post hints to that - you *should*
buy a fuel meter. A boat running 2500 rpms at 21 knots can burn 6 gph
with that engine. That same boat at 3500 rpms and 34 knots can burn
around 12 gph - about double or half of the fuel economy. A fuel flow
meter can help you find your sweet spot, or cruising speed, to get the
best bang for your buck and pay off that meter in a short period of
time. Here's a boat with a Volvo 5.7 that was tested...

RPM MPH Knots GPH
650 3.7 3.2 0.9
1000 5.8 5.0 1.2
1500 8.1 7.0 3.4
2000 15.6 13.6 5.1
2500 24.4 21.2 6.0
3000 31.7 27.6 8.2
3500 39.6 34.4 11.8
4000 45.3 39.4 13.5
4500 49.9 43.3 17.2
4750 54.1 47.0 22.6

Dan


Thanks Dan, I should have mentioned it has an Alpha I outdrive. It looks like
trolling (8-900 rpm) will burn about 1 gph and cruising (usually about 3200 rpm)
will burn about 10gph. Guess I better spend more time fishing and less time
playing!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On average you will get between 2.5 and 3.0 miles per gallon. This assumes
you are running on plane and are running between 3000 and 4000 rpms. The
lower the rpms the better the mileage.

Everyone wants to quote gallons per hour at a certain rpm. How many hours
do you run at the same rpm? Miles per gallon means so much more as you
should know how far you have gone using either a chart or a gps. This will
tell you exactly how far you can still go on a given amount of fuel.

Of course that is my opinion.
--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"John H" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have something that will tell me what the fuel consumption
expectations are for a Pro-line 211 walkaround with a 5.7L carbureted
engine?

It's listed in the Powerboat Guide, which I'm too cheap to buy just to get
this
question answered.

I'm also too cheap to put a fuel meter on it.

Actually, I'm so cheap I may not burn the electricity to turn this
computer on
to get an answer....but I'll love you if you try.

Thanks!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:37:36 GMT, "tony thomas" wrote:

On average you will get between 2.5 and 3.0 miles per gallon. This assumes
you are running on plane and are running between 3000 and 4000 rpms. The
lower the rpms the better the mileage.

Everyone wants to quote gallons per hour at a certain rpm. How many hours
do you run at the same rpm? Miles per gallon means so much more as you
should know how far you have gone using either a chart or a gps. This will
tell you exactly how far you can still go on a given amount of fuel.

Of course that is my opinion.

Actually, Tony, gph is better in my case. When fishing, I am either trolling or
going somewhere on plane and anchoring for a long time (or just drifting). If
trolling, I might be on plane for a half hour and then troll at 1-3 mph for four
or five hours (unless I'm lucky and limit out early!). If bottom fishing, I may
be on plane for an hour getting to the site, and then anchoring for four or five
hours. So I really need to know my planing consumption and my trolling
consumption. That way, if I'm splitting the gas costs with a couple other folks
it'll be fair all around.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start out full
of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you know exactly how
much you burned.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:37:36 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:

On average you will get between 2.5 and 3.0 miles per gallon. This
assumes
you are running on plane and are running between 3000 and 4000 rpms. The
lower the rpms the better the mileage.

Everyone wants to quote gallons per hour at a certain rpm. How many hours
do you run at the same rpm? Miles per gallon means so much more as you
should know how far you have gone using either a chart or a gps. This
will
tell you exactly how far you can still go on a given amount of fuel.

Of course that is my opinion.

Actually, Tony, gph is better in my case. When fishing, I am either
trolling or
going somewhere on plane and anchoring for a long time (or just drifting).
If
trolling, I might be on plane for a half hour and then troll at 1-3 mph
for four
or five hours (unless I'm lucky and limit out early!). If bottom fishing,
I may
be on plane for an hour getting to the site, and then anchoring for four
or five
hours. So I really need to know my planing consumption and my trolling
consumption. That way, if I'm splitting the gas costs with a couple other
folks
it'll be fair all around.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas" wrote:

Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start out full
of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you know exactly how
much you burned.

That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so every time I
go out. But, I don't.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:
John H wrote:

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:


Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.

On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:58:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

Does anyone have something that will tell me what the fuel consumption
expectations are for a Pro-line 211 walkaround with a 5.7L carbureted engine?

I owned 2 Pro-Line's. Sold the off for a hefty profit.
--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:58:45 -0400, John H
wrote:

Does anyone have something that will tell me what the fuel consumption
expectations are for a Pro-line 211 walkaround with a 5.7L carbureted
engine?

I owned 2 Pro-Line's. Sold the off for a hefty profit.


Who is this idiot who "clones" the names of posters here and pretends to be
them? He/she isdoing everyone a great disservice.

SoFarrell wrote:


Who is this idiot who "clones" the names of posters here and pretends to be
them? He/she isdoing everyone a great disservice.

You would need a program to keep tabs on the various idiots who come
here to harass legit boaters.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
SoFarrell wrote:


Who is this idiot who "clones" the names of posters here and pretends to
be them? He/she isdoing everyone a great disservice.

You would need a program to keep tabs on the various idiots who come here
to harass legit boaters.


What is their point? I just don't get it. What would this fellow with all
the IDs here think he is accomplishing besides annoying everyone with
juvenile antics?

Don,
They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
SoFarrell wrote:


Who is this idiot who "clones" the names of posters here and pretends to
be them? He/she isdoing everyone a great disservice.

You would need a program to keep tabs on the various idiots who come here
to harass legit boaters.

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:06:55 -0400, "Me Again"
wrote:

They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.

==================================================

With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate
interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being
harassed.

Get a life (outside the news group).

Wayne,
Where was your indignant attitude when Harry was making over 150 posts a day
insulting and harassing those with an interest in boating?


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:06:55 -0400, "Me Again"
wrote:

They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.

==================================================

With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate
interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being
harassed.

Get a life (outside the news group).

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:06:55 -0400, "Me Again"
wrote:

They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.

==================================================

With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate
interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being
harassed.

Get a life (outside the news group).



MeAgain posts here under about two dozen different user names, including the
names of other posters here, and it looks as if if he is now using a couple
of anonymizers. to try to antagonize those he doenst like. He's also real
vague about himself. He's a troll.

"Me Again" wrote in message
...
Don,
They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
SoFarrell wrote:


Who is this idiot who "clones" the names of posters here and pretends to
be them? He/she isdoing everyone a great disservice.

You would need a program to keep tabs on the various idiots who come here
to harass legit boaters.


No, they're harassing everyone in here who wants to talk about boats and
fishing. You are one of the worse offenders.

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:02:40 -0400, "Me Again"
wrote:

Where was your indignant attitude when Harry was making over 150 posts a day
insulting and harassing those with an interest in boating?

===============================

As a matter of fact, I have gotten on Harry's case a few times when I
thought he had gone way over the line. In his defense, Harry has
never spoofed his ID or impersonated others as far as I know. While I
don't condone Harry's off topic posting or occasional incivility, he
is easy to kill file for those so inclined. Less excusable is his ego
driven need to constantly stir the pot (which we are now contributing
to against my better judgement). The best revenge for those who annoy
is to kill file and/or ignore.

No response equals no fun.

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed wrote:

Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:
John H wrote:

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:


Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.


Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I
consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break
down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not
a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

SoFarrell,
You are incorrect in your observations and obsessions.



"SoFarrell" wrote in message
news:1113189806.39e3d1f0662add7a1198323728e7d7a3@t eranews...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:06:55 -0400, "Me Again"
wrote:

They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.

==================================================

With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate
interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being
harassed.

Get a life (outside the news group).



MeAgain posts here under about two dozen different user names, including
the names of other posters here, and it looks as if if he is now using a
couple of anonymizers. to try to antagonize those he doenst like. He's
also real vague about himself. He's a troll.

"Me Again" wrote in message
...
SoFarrell,
You are incorrect in your observations and obsessions.



"SoFarrell" wrote in message
news:1113189806.39e3d1f0662add7a1198323728e7d7a3@t eranews...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:06:55 -0400, "Me Again"
wrote:

They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.

==================================================

With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate
interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being
harassed.

Get a life (outside the news group).



MeAgain posts here under about two dozen different user names, including
the names of other posters here, and it looks as if if he is now using a
couple of anonymizers. to try to antagonize those he doenst like. He's
also real vague about himself. He's a troll.



Obsessions?????

You pollute this newsgroup with two dozen identities and take potshots all
day long at krause and post with his identity and you think I am obsessed?

Look in the mirror, buckwheat. Obsession is thy name.

All I want from you is a bit of decent behavior.

SoFarrell,

I am curious, why are you so obsessed with me?


"SoFarrell" wrote in message
news:1113226236.6f89f26e5cfe915d9ecea63758b21365@t eranews...

"Me Again" wrote in message
...
SoFarrell,
You are incorrect in your observations and obsessions.



"SoFarrell" wrote in message
news:1113189806.39e3d1f0662add7a1198323728e7d7a3@t eranews...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:06:55 -0400, "Me Again"
wrote:

They are not harassing legit boaters, they are harassing Harry.

==================================================

With all due respect, that is crap. Everyone who has a legitimate
interest in boating, as opposed to sophomoric antics, is being
harassed.

Get a life (outside the news group).



MeAgain posts here under about two dozen different user names, including
the names of other posters here, and it looks as if if he is now using
a couple of anonymizers. to try to antagonize those he doenst like. He's
also real vague about himself. He's a troll.



Obsessions?????

You pollute this newsgroup with two dozen identities and take potshots all
day long at krause and post with his identity and you think I am obsessed?

Look in the mirror, buckwheat. Obsession is thy name.

All I want from you is a bit of decent behavior.

If your boat holds 120 gallons of fuel and you plan on spending a few
hours cruising or making a quick run to the reef and back, it doesn't
make sense to fill your tank every time you go out. That full 700# will
cost you more to carry around. I try to start with about twice as much
gas as I think I will use. If I'm trailering, I'll fill it up since the
gas on shore is so much cheaper than the fuel docks.

Dan


John H wrote:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas" wrote:


Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start out full
of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you know exactly how
much you burned.


That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so every time I
go out. But, I don't.

http://www.standardhorizon.com/index...7&DivisionID=3

or

http://floscan.com/ModelSelection/Pricing.asp

Dan

John H wrote:

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed wrote:


Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:

John H wrote:


On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:



Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.



Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I
consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break
down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not
a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

http://www.standardhorizon.com/index...7&DivisionID=3

or

http://floscan.com/ModelSelection/Pricing.asp

Dan

John H wrote:

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed wrote:


Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:

John H wrote:


On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:



Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.



Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I
consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break
down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not
a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?


Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check
it out.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Look at the Navman units also.

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger

wrote:


http://www.standardhorizon.com/index...s&ProdCatID=86
&ProdID=37&DivisionID=3

or

http://floscan.com/ModelSelection/Pricing.asp

Dan

John H wrote:

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed wrote:


Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:

John H wrote:


On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:



Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.



Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every
year I
consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year
I'll break
down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the
gauge. Not
a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?


Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to
check
it out.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:34:59 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Look at the Navman units also.

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger

wrote:


http://www.standardhorizon.com/index...s&ProdCatID=86
&ProdID=37&DivisionID=3

or

http://floscan.com/ModelSelection/Pricing.asp

Dan

John H wrote:

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed wrote:


Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:

John H wrote:


On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:



Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.



Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every
year I
consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year
I'll break
down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the
gauge. Not
a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?


Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to
check
it out.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Thanks CB, I'll check them both out next time I'm in Boat US.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John,

I've got a spare - brand new, in the box, and all manuals. Email me
(minus the XXX) and I'll make you a great deal. I would send this
directly but your email address is probably not going to work! Same
deal for anyone else but John gets the first shot at it. I would post a
price but that would be ... spam.

Dan


John H wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:


http://www.standardhorizon.com/index...7&DivisionID=3

or

http://floscan.com/ModelSelection/Pricing.asp

Dan

John H wrote:


On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed wrote:



Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:


John H wrote:



On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:




Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.



Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I
consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break
down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not
a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?



Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check
it out.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:52:24 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

John,

I've got a spare - brand new, in the box, and all manuals. Email me
(minus the XXX) and I'll make you a great deal. I would send this
directly but your email address is probably not going to work! Same
deal for anyone else but John gets the first shot at it. I would post a
price but that would be ... spam.

Dan


John H wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:


http://www.standardhorizon.com/index...7&DivisionID=3

or

http://floscan.com/ModelSelection/Pricing.asp

Dan

John H wrote:


On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed wrote:



Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:


John H wrote:



On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:




Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.



Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I
consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break
down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not
a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?



Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check
it out.

Hey Dan. An email is on its way to you, without the x's.

Thanks!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John,

Your email address was the same as you use here. Please send it again
and I will reply tomorrow.

Dan


John H wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:52:24 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:


John,

I've got a spare - brand new, in the box, and all manuals. Email me
(minus the XXX) and I'll make you a great deal. I would send this
directly but your email address is probably not going to work! Same
deal for anyone else but John gets the first shot at it. I would post a
price but that would be ... spam.

Dan


John H wrote:


On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:



http://www.standardhorizon.com/index...7&DivisionID=3

or

http://floscan.com/ModelSelection/Pricing.asp

Dan

John H wrote:



On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed wrote:




Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:



John H wrote:




On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:





Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.



Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I
consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break
down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not
a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?



Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check
it out.


Hey Dan. An email is on its way to you, without the x's.

Thanks!

On the way, over!


On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:40:47 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

John,

Your email address was the same as you use here. Please send it again
and I will reply tomorrow.

Dan


John H wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:52:24 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:


John,

I've got a spare - brand new, in the box, and all manuals. Email me
(minus the XXX) and I'll make you a great deal. I would send this
directly but your email address is probably not going to work! Same
deal for anyone else but John gets the first shot at it. I would post a
price but that would be ... spam.

Dan


John H wrote:


On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:19:46 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:



http://www.standardhorizon.com/index...7&DivisionID=3

or

http://floscan.com/ModelSelection/Pricing.asp

Dan

John H wrote:



On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 15:09:55 -0400, Ed wrote:




Harry is correct.... Also.. If you use your boat a lot then it will
probably pay for itself in a year or two.... I had a pair of 454's in a
Phoenix 33 and it was an eye opener.... found out for that boat, I had
to push it a bit past optimum cruise RPM (Per crusader) to get the best
fuel economy. It also helped me justify the new Cummins 370s I put in
the boat two years later....

Harry Krause wrote:



John H wrote:




On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:29:07 GMT, "tony thomas"
wrote:





Agreed for that situation. But would it not be more fair to start
out full of fuel and then top off when you get back. That way you
know exactly how much you burned.



That would be more accurate, if I wanted to take the time to do so
every time I
go out. But, I don't.


For under $150, you can install a fuel-flow meter and be done with it.
You can probably install it yourself.



Thanks, I didn't see Harry's response to my post (he's filtered). Every year I
consider flow meters, but never do anything about it. Maybe this year I'll break
down and do something. But then I have to figure out where to put the gauge. Not
a lot of places to do it on my console. Any recommendations as to type?



Thanks, Dan. I like the looks of the Standard Horizon meter. I'll have to check
it out.


Hey Dan. An email is on its way to you, without the x's.

Thanks!

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

I second your opinion! Mpg is much more important than gph.
Taking the chart one step further--adding the conversion for mpg we have:

RPM MPH Knots GPH MPG
650 3.7 3.2 0.9 4.1
1000 5.8 5.0 1.2 4.8
1500 8.1 7.0 3.4 2.3
2000 15.6 13.6 5.1 3.1
2500 24.4 21.2 6.0 4.1
3000 31.7 27.6 8.2 3.9
3500 39.6 34.4 11.8 3.4
4000 45.3 39.4 13.5 3.4
4500 49.9 43.3 17.2 2.9
4750 54.1 47.0 22.6 2.4


I wish I got such great "economy"! I average only about 2mpg with my 200hp
merc.
I usually run 3/4 throttle (35-40mph) for 9miles to the pass then troll or
run as fast as I
can safely and comfortably go to a bottom fishing spot. My boat has twin
18gal and a
third 17gal tank and consistantly, with a mix of trolling and crusing gets
between 1.9 to 2.1 mpg.
I keep a log with fishing, weather info and how much gas I put in. Maybe to
determine
the overall running time on the engine an hour meter is good but I could
care less about
how many gallons it takes me to move for one hour. Once I've commited to go
fishing,
I just want to be sure I have plenty of gas to get back! In the example
it's obvious that at 1500 rpm the boat's trying to get on plane and at
2500rpm it's on plane and
that WFO is inefficient (and not too good on the engine life either).
Notice that, once it's on plane
at 24.4mph it's as efficient as creeping along at 3.7mph. But within the
parameters of 3.7mph
to 45.3 mph (avoiding the 1500 rpm), there's not much difference. And, in
the example,
is one really going to run 5.8 mph for 30 miles just for economy? If I run
any distance at 3.7 or 5.8
mph it's because I trolling--not trying to save gas. If I really wanted to
save gas
I guess I'd get a sailboat! Let's go fish!
LD

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:QOY5e.1364$xL4.780@attbi_s72...
On average you will get between 2.5 and 3.0 miles per gallon. This
assumes
you are running on plane and are running between 3000 and 4000 rpms. The
lower the rpms the better the mileage.

Everyone wants to quote gallons per hour at a certain rpm. How many hours
do you run at the same rpm? Miles per gallon means so much more as you
should know how far you have gone using either a chart or a gps. This
will
tell you exactly how far you can still go on a given amount of fuel.

Of course that is my opinion.
--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


"John H" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have something that will tell me what the fuel consumption
expectations are for a Pro-line 211 walkaround with a 5.7L carbureted
engine?

It's listed in the Powerboat Guide, which I'm too cheap to buy just to
get
this
question answered.

I'm also too cheap to put a fuel meter on it.

Actually, I'm so cheap I may not burn the electricity to turn this
computer on
to get an answer....but I'll love you if you try.

Thanks!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."