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Bruce February 24th 04 01:49 AM

Trailer Tire question
 
I have a tandem axle boat trailer which currently has four bias-ply tires
with disc brakes on the rear axle. The two tires on the brake axle are worn
and I am considering replacing them with Radials; I understand that you
never mix bias-ply and radials on the same axle, any reason that I should
not put radials on the back axle, and leave the bias-ply's on the forward
axle??

Thanks-

Bruce - Durham, NC USA



Short Wave Sportfishing February 24th 04 01:07 PM

Trailer Tire question
 
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 01:49:41 GMT, "Bruce"
wrote:

I have a tandem axle boat trailer which currently has four bias-ply tires
with disc brakes on the rear axle. The two tires on the brake axle are worn
and I am considering replacing them with Radials; I understand that you
never mix bias-ply and radials on the same axle, any reason that I should
not put radials on the back axle, and leave the bias-ply's on the forward
axle??


Never mix bias ply/radial tires period. They are incompatible.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
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Basic Fishing Program:

10 - Fish
20 - Eat
30 - Sleep
40 - Goto 10

Lawrence James February 24th 04 09:51 PM

Trailer Tire question
 
I've never understood why one would want radials on a trailer anyway? It's
not like you're after cornering.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 01:49:41 GMT, "Bruce"
wrote:

I have a tandem axle boat trailer which currently has four bias-ply tires
with disc brakes on the rear axle. The two tires on the brake axle are

worn
and I am considering replacing them with Radials; I understand that you
never mix bias-ply and radials on the same axle, any reason that I should
not put radials on the back axle, and leave the bias-ply's on the forward
axle??


Never mix bias ply/radial tires period. They are incompatible.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------

Basic Fishing Program:

10 - Fish
20 - Eat
30 - Sleep
40 - Goto 10




Short Wave Sportfishing February 24th 04 11:27 PM

Trailer Tire question
 
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:51:39 GMT, "Lawrence James"
wrote:

I've never understood why one would want radials on a trailer anyway? It's
not like you're after cornering.


Radials have better load distribution than bias ply and they flex more
- bias ply tires will bounce under stress.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------

Basic Fishing Program:

10 - Fish
20 - Eat
30 - Sleep
40 - Goto 10

Harry Krause February 24th 04 11:29 PM

Trailer Tire question
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:51:39 GMT, "Lawrence James"
wrote:

I've never understood why one would want radials on a trailer anyway? It's
not like you're after cornering.


Radials have better load distribution than bias ply and they flex more
- bias ply tires will bounce under stress.


Indeed; I have four radials on my alum Yo Ho trailer, which also has
torsion bar suspension. It is a "different" kind of tow, and
disconcerting to watch if you are not used to torsion bar axles.

Jack Redington February 25th 04 12:27 AM

Trailer Tire question
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:51:39 GMT, "Lawrence James"
wrote:


I've never understood why one would want radials on a trailer anyway? It's
not like you're after cornering.



Radials have better load distribution than bias ply and they flex more
- bias ply tires will bounce under stress.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------

Basic Fishing Program:

10 - Fish
20 - Eat
30 - Sleep
40 - Goto 10


I guess one could not expect them to hold up against sun any better ? I
will be replacing the tires on my trailer this year I am certin. Any
advice on which trailer tires hold up against the sun the best, as mine
are cracking on the side walls, would be welcome.

Don't do many long distance trips as the boat is stored on the trailer
right next to the the lake. We may take it to another lake if one
appeals to us. But that only happens mabe once a year.

Capt Jack R..


Short Wave Sportfishing February 25th 04 12:42 AM

Trailer Tire question
 
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:27:36 GMT, Jack Redington
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:51:39 GMT, "Lawrence James"
wrote:


I've never understood why one would want radials on a trailer anyway? It's
not like you're after cornering.



Radials have better load distribution than bias ply and they flex more
- bias ply tires will bounce under stress.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------

Basic Fishing Program:

10 - Fish
20 - Eat
30 - Sleep
40 - Goto 10


I guess one could not expect them to hold up against sun any better ? I
will be replacing the tires on my trailer this year I am certin. Any
advice on which trailer tires hold up against the sun the best, as mine
are cracking on the side walls, would be welcome.


Sun isn't the culprit - it's the long term weight on the tires that
causes the flexing that cracks the sidewalls. To put it another way,
if the tires are stationary for long periods of time, temperature will
expand and contract the air inside the tire causing the tire to shrink
and expand unevenly because of the weight being applied all in one
place. Those cracks aren't from the sun drying out the rubber, but
from stress.

To keep them from cracking, you need to take the weight off the tires
by raising the trailer so the tires aren't on the ground or move the
trailer around once every couple of days.

If my Ranger is going to be sitting for a while (like if I'm using the
Contender for offshore trips) I use a set of bottle jacks and put the
axel on blocks. Takes ten minutes to do. The tires on the Ranger
trailer look as good as they did new and the boat is a 2001 with
plenty of miles on them.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------

Basic Fishing Program:

10 - Fish
20 - Eat
30 - Sleep
40 - Goto 10

Jack Redington February 25th 04 01:35 AM

Trailer Tire question
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:27:36 GMT, Jack Redington
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:51:39 GMT, "Lawrence James"
wrote:



I've never understood why one would want radials on a trailer anyway? It's
not like you're after cornering.


Radials have better load distribution than bias ply and they flex more
- bias ply tires will bounce under stress.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------

Basic Fishing Program:

10 - Fish
20 - Eat
30 - Sleep
40 - Goto 10


I guess one could not expect them to hold up against sun any better ? I
will be replacing the tires on my trailer this year I am certin. Any
advice on which trailer tires hold up against the sun the best, as mine
are cracking on the side walls, would be welcome.



Sun isn't the culprit - it's the long term weight on the tires that
causes the flexing that cracks the sidewalls. To put it another way,
if the tires are stationary for long periods of time, temperature will
expand and contract the air inside the tire causing the tire to shrink
and expand unevenly because of the weight being applied all in one
place. Those cracks aren't from the sun drying out the rubber, but
from stress.

To keep them from cracking, you need to take the weight off the tires
by raising the trailer so the tires aren't on the ground or move the
trailer around once every couple of days.

If my Ranger is going to be sitting for a while (like if I'm using the
Contender for offshore trips) I use a set of bottle jacks and put the
axel on blocks. Takes ten minutes to do. The tires on the Ranger
trailer look as good as they did new and the boat is a 2001 with
plenty of miles on them.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------

Basic Fishing Program:

10 - Fish
20 - Eat
30 - Sleep
40 - Goto 10


Hummmm That make since,The boat is moved every weekend in the summer but
not much in the winter... Mucho Thanks Tom.

Capt Jack R..



Rich February 25th 04 06:03 AM

Trailer Tire question
 

"Jack Redington" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Any
advice on which trailer tires hold up against the sun the best, as mine
are cracking on the side walls, would be welcome.


They make tire covers for RV's, that's probably your best bet.

Rich



Short Wave Sportfishing February 25th 04 03:49 PM

Trailer Tire question
 
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:29:34 -0500, "Gene Kearns"
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:42:49 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Sun isn't the culprit -


To put it another way,
if the tires are stationary for long periods of time, temperature will
expand and contract the air inside the tire causing the tire to shrink
and expand unevenly because of the weight being applied all in one
place. Those cracks aren't from the sun drying out the rubber, but
from stress.



That is about the silliest stuff I have ever read. See:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...rcracking.html


I stand by what I said.

Which, curiously enough, is pretty much what the article said with the
exception of sun.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------

Basic Fishing Program:

10 - Fish
20 - Eat
30 - Sleep
40 - Goto 10


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