Cubans are the best boaters...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke aboard.
-----------------------------------------


Speedboat smuggles 13 Cubans into U.S.


MARATHON, Fla. (AP) Thirteen Cuban migrants were picked up by U.S.
Border Patrol agents after being smuggled into the Florida Keys aboard a
speedboat, an official said.

Members of the group said they left from Cuba on Friday night, and the
boat left them on Duck Key, about 90 miles southwest of Miami, around 3
a.m. Saturday, Border Patrol supervisor Kerry Heck said.

The group had made it to shore by the time they were spotted, and will
therefore likely be allowed to stay in the country.

When border agents arrived, the boat was gone, and the group - which
included 11 adults, a 3-year-old girl and a 6-year-old boy - gave no
information about their smugglers.

Heck said the group would be taken to a Border Patrol office, then to
the Krome detention center in Miami before they are released. All of
them said they have family members in Florida, who will pick them up
when they are released.

Under the "wet foot, dry foot" policy, Cubans who reach U.S. shores are
generally permitted to stay, while those caught at sea are usually taken
back.







One of the great fallout's of Iraq and Afghan is the Libya folding on WMD's.
We have now found they were at least 10 times more likely to have a nuke
shortly than intelligence sources figured. So maybe we survive longer.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke aboard.

And I'm sure there's a way to protect against that, right? If a large cargo
ship has a 25' walkaround loaded with a suitcase nuke, and they unload it in
the middle of the night, there is no way to differentiate that boat from the
hundreds of others that will be returning to harbor one Saturday after
fishing.

The only way to diminish the threat is to go into the countries where these
guys live and kill every one of the *******s that don't wave an Amercian
flag whenever a column of our M1A1's are rolling by. We invaded
Afghanistan...and the liberals whined. We invaded Iraq, and the liberals
whined some more. We pressured Lybia into disarming, and the liberals
dismissed it as irrelavent. We recently placed sanctions on Syria (likely
just a harbinger of a future military action there), and the liberals say
Bush isn't doing enough. I realize it's an election year, but you guys have
lost your marbles.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke aboard.

And I'm sure there's a way to protect against that, right? If a large cargo
ship has a 25' walkaround loaded with a suitcase nuke, and they unload it in
the middle of the night, there is no way to differentiate that boat from the
hundreds of others that will be returning to harbor one Saturday after
fishing.

The only way to diminish the threat is to go into the countries where these
guys live and kill every one of the *******s that don't wave an Amercian
flag whenever a column of our M1A1's are rolling by. We invaded
Afghanistan...and the liberals whined. We invaded Iraq, and the liberals
whined some more. We pressured Lybia into disarming, and the liberals
dismissed it as irrelavent. We recently placed sanctions on Syria (likely
just a harbinger of a future military action there), and the liberals say
Bush isn't doing enough. I realize it's an election year, but you guys have
lost your marbles.

We're going to run out of troops long before we run out of potential
terrorists. If you're so hot to trot, why don't you sign up for some
near the front dentistry assignments?

You're sorta like Bush on this matter...talk tough but let the others do
the walk.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to
can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying
dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of
our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke
aboard.

And I'm sure there's a way to protect against that, right? If a large
cargo
ship has a 25' walkaround loaded with a suitcase nuke, and they unload
it in
the middle of the night, there is no way to differentiate that boat from
the
hundreds of others that will be returning to harbor one Saturday after
fishing.

The only way to diminish the threat is to go into the countries where
these
guys live and kill every one of the *******s that don't wave an Amercian
flag whenever a column of our M1A1's are rolling by. We invaded
Afghanistan...and the liberals whined. We invaded Iraq, and the
liberals
whined some more. We pressured Lybia into disarming, and the liberals
dismissed it as irrelavent. We recently placed sanctions on Syria
(likely
just a harbinger of a future military action there), and the liberals
say
Bush isn't doing enough. I realize it's an election year, but you guys
have
lost your marbles.

We're going to run out of troops long before we run out of potential
terrorists. If you're so hot to trot, why don't you sign up for some
near the front dentistry assignments?

You're sorta like Bush on this matter...talk tough but let the others do
the walk.

I'm a lot like Bush except in one way: I wouldn't have taken the time to
painstakingly differentiate between the "innocents" and the "terrorists".
Following 9/11, the entire Middle East would have been rubble if my finger
was on the button.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

You blame your Pres for the Cubans?? they've been escaping the
socialists like you & your union scam merchants for years.

Ralph is going to stop you:-)


I thank GM for the corvair:-)

K



Harry Krause wrote:
No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke aboard.
-----------------------------------------


Speedboat smuggles 13 Cubans into U.S.


MARATHON, Fla. (AP) Thirteen Cuban migrants were picked up by U.S.
Border Patrol agents after being smuggled into the Florida Keys aboard a
speedboat, an official said.

Members of the group said they left from Cuba on Friday night, and the
boat left them on Duck Key, about 90 miles southwest of Miami, around 3
a.m. Saturday, Border Patrol supervisor Kerry Heck said.

The group had made it to shore by the time they were spotted, and will
therefore likely be allowed to stay in the country.

When border agents arrived, the boat was gone, and the group - which
included 11 adults, a 3-year-old girl and a 6-year-old boy - gave no
information about their smugglers.

Heck said the group would be taken to a Border Patrol office, then to
the Krome detention center in Miami before they are released. All of
them said they have family members in Florida, who will pick them up
when they are released.

Under the "wet foot, dry foot" policy, Cubans who reach U.S. shores are
generally permitted to stay, while those caught at sea are usually taken
back.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

LOL,,, Harry you are now a Racists liar.






"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke aboard.
-----------------------------------------


Speedboat smuggles 13 Cubans into U.S.


MARATHON, Fla. (AP) Thirteen Cuban migrants were picked up by U.S.
Border Patrol agents after being smuggled into the Florida Keys aboard a
speedboat, an official said.

Members of the group said they left from Cuba on Friday night, and the
boat left them on Duck Key, about 90 miles southwest of Miami, around 3
a.m. Saturday, Border Patrol supervisor Kerry Heck said.

The group had made it to shore by the time they were spotted, and will
therefore likely be allowed to stay in the country.

When border agents arrived, the boat was gone, and the group - which
included 11 adults, a 3-year-old girl and a 6-year-old boy - gave no
information about their smugglers.

Heck said the group would be taken to a Border Patrol office, then to
the Krome detention center in Miami before they are released. All of
them said they have family members in Florida, who will pick them up
when they are released.

Under the "wet foot, dry foot" policy, Cubans who reach U.S. shores are
generally permitted to stay, while those caught at sea are usually taken
back.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:ue8_b.3897
One of the great fallout's of Iraq and Afghan is the Libya folding on WMD's.
We have now found they were at least 10 times more likely to have a nuke
shortly than intelligence sources figured. So maybe we survive longer.

"10 times more likely"??????? How and where did THIS come from? How
was a baseline established to come up with this 10 times thing? Please
provide references.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

Don't blame anyone else for incursion into your own borders. Its your
problem too.

If you are a concerned citizen, value your freedom, love your country,
then get involved.

Join your local United States Coast Guard Auxillary.

Operation Riverwatch and Operation Patriot Reddiness need YOU!

http://www.teamcoastguard.org/Personnel/RNR.htm

--
Capt. Frank

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke aboard.
-----------------------------------------


Speedboat smuggles 13 Cubans into U.S.


MARATHON, Fla. (AP) Thirteen Cuban migrants were picked up by U.S.
Border Patrol agents after being smuggled into the Florida Keys aboard a
speedboat, an official said.

Members of the group said they left from Cuba on Friday night, and the
boat left them on Duck Key, about 90 miles southwest of Miami, around 3
a.m. Saturday, Border Patrol supervisor Kerry Heck said.

The group had made it to shore by the time they were spotted, and will
therefore likely be allowed to stay in the country.

When border agents arrived, the boat was gone, and the group - which
included 11 adults, a 3-year-old girl and a 6-year-old boy - gave no
information about their smugglers.

Heck said the group would be taken to a Border Patrol office, then to
the Krome detention center in Miami before they are released. All of
them said they have family members in Florida, who will pick them up
when they are released.

Under the "wet foot, dry foot" policy, Cubans who reach U.S. shores are
generally permitted to stay, while those caught at sea are usually taken
back.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

"NOYB" wrote in message ...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke aboard.

And I'm sure there's a way to protect against that, right? If a large cargo
ship has a 25' walkaround loaded with a suitcase nuke, and they unload it in
the middle of the night, there is no way to differentiate that boat from the
hundreds of others that will be returning to harbor one Saturday after
fishing.

The only way to diminish the threat is to go into the countries where these
guys live and kill every one of the *******s that don't wave an Amercian
flag whenever a column of our M1A1's are rolling by. We invaded
Afghanistan...and the liberals whined. We invaded Iraq, and the liberals
whined some more. We pressured Lybia into disarming, and the liberals
dismissed it as irrelavent. We recently placed sanctions on Syria (likely
just a harbinger of a future military action there), and the liberals say
Bush isn't doing enough. I realize it's an election year, but you guys have
lost your marbles.


No, you don't have to put soldiers on the ground. That's what Sranoff
Attack Weapons and Precision Guided Munitions are for. After-all,
thats what GPS was invented for. Not to get lost fisherman or sailors
home, but to bombs on the ears of bad guys w/o blowing up the baby
milk factory next door.

Sorry to be OT - but at least I teid it in.

Fishfan

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

Harry, you have no clue,

Many have it right here when they claim you are a dummy.

What is wrong with the Mexicans coming into America? You a racist now also?
You have a problem with them coming in and going to work? Just because you
will not do the job for minimum, you wont pick fruit for minimum wage, and
strike, form a union, collectively force the farmer or business owner to
move overseas, you think that is the answer? Harry, give your empty head a
shake.
You union dummies did this to yourselves. Plain and simple. You dummies
didn't see it coming either.








"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:c3dhc2g=.43c4bc574aca2dc98784b461066f2782@107 7541304.nulluser.com...
K. Smith wrote:

You blame your Pres for the Cubans?? they've been escaping the
socialists like you & your union scam merchants for years.


No, ****-for-brains, I do not blame Bush for our failure to have normal
diplomatic relations with Cuba, although if he did normalize relations
there, it would be a feather - and the only one -in his cap.

What I blame Bush for, and what you would have noticed if you could read
standard English, is the absolute failure of his "homeland security"
program. If we can't keep a bunch of Cuban refugees in a power boat from
landing on our shores, and we obviously can't, then what chance do we
have of keeping a boatload of terrorists from landing on our shores?

Answer: no chance.

Ergo, we are no safer now, with all the money Bush has wasted, than we
were before.

Got it?

Or do you need more ECT?

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

" Tuuk" wrote in message ...
Harry, you have no clue,

Many have it right here when they claim you are a dummy.

What is wrong with the Mexicans coming into America? You a racist now also?
You have a problem with them coming in and going to work? Just because you
will not do the job for minimum, you wont pick fruit for minimum wage, and
strike, form a union, collectively force the farmer or business owner to
move overseas, you think that is the answer? Harry, give your empty head a
shake.
You union dummies did this to yourselves. Plain and simple. You dummies
didn't see it coming either.

Tuuk, give your ass a shake.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

Still no answer there asskisser so you fling some mud to attempt to hide
your stupidity.

Poor attempt there grasskisser, your ignorance explodes through any attempt
to hide it.






"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
Harry, you have no clue,

Many have it right here when they claim you are a dummy.

What is wrong with the Mexicans coming into America? You a racist now
also?
You have a problem with them coming in and going to work? Just because
you
will not do the job for minimum, you wont pick fruit for minimum wage,
and
strike, form a union, collectively force the farmer or business owner to
move overseas, you think that is the answer? Harry, give your empty head
a
shake.
You union dummies did this to yourselves. Plain and simple. You dummies
didn't see it coming either.

Tuuk, give your ass a shake.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

" Tuuk" wrote in message ...
Still no answer there asskisser so you fling some mud to attempt to hide
your stupidity.

Poor attempt there grasskisser, your ignorance explodes through any attempt
to hide it.

What's the matter, there, Tuuk? Can't take your own ignorant medicine?
Now, you didn't ask me a question, therefore, there is nothing to
answer. Give your ass a shake.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

There you go again there asskisser,, typical union mentality and retention
problem.






"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
Still no answer there asskisser so you fling some mud to attempt to hide
your stupidity.

Poor attempt there grasskisser, your ignorance explodes through any
attempt
to hide it.

What's the matter, there, Tuuk? Can't take your own ignorant medicine?
Now, you didn't ask me a question, therefore, there is nothing to
answer. Give your ass a shake.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

" Tuuk" wrote in message ...
There you go again there asskisser,, typical union mentality and retention
problem.

Let's see....I have a union mentality and retention problem because
YOU asked someone else a question, then asked ME why I didn't answer
it?????
Give the ass a shake, Tuuk.






"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
Still no answer there asskisser so you fling some mud to attempt to hide
your stupidity.

Poor attempt there grasskisser, your ignorance explodes through any
attempt
to hide it.

What's the matter, there, Tuuk? Can't take your own ignorant medicine?
Now, you didn't ask me a question, therefore, there is nothing to
answer. Give your ass a shake.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

There you go again there asskisser,, typical union mentality and retention
problem.

Dont worry, a better and more intelligent laborer will fill your position.
You can retire early, with full pay, with full benefits,, it is cheaper for
the firm to pay you while you stay home, keep you out of the way,, or better
yet, transfer you over to the competition.







"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
There you go again there asskisser,, typical union mentality and
retention
problem.

Let's see....I have a union mentality and retention problem because
YOU asked someone else a question, then asked ME why I didn't answer
it?????
Give the ass a shake, Tuuk.






"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
Still no answer there asskisser so you fling some mud to attempt to
hide
your stupidity.

Poor attempt there grasskisser, your ignorance explodes through any
attempt
to hide it.

What's the matter, there, Tuuk? Can't take your own ignorant medicine?
Now, you didn't ask me a question, therefore, there is nothing to
answer. Give your ass a shake.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

From: Harry Krause

No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke aboard.
-----------------------------------------


Speedboat smuggles 13 Cubans into U.S.


MARATHON, Fla. (AP) Thirteen Cuban migrants were picked up by U.S.
Border Patrol agents after being smuggled into the Florida Keys aboard a
speedboat, an official said.

Members of the group said they left from Cuba on Friday night, and the
boat left them on Duck Key, about 90 miles southwest of Miami, around 3
a.m. Saturday, Border Patrol supervisor Kerry Heck said.

The group had made it to shore by the time they were spotted, and will
therefore likely be allowed to stay in the country.

When border agents arrived, the boat was gone, and the group - which
included 11 adults, a 3-year-old girl and a 6-year-old boy - gave no
information about their smugglers.

Heck said the group would be taken to a Border Patrol office, then to
the Krome detention center in Miami before they are released. All of
them said they have family members in Florida, who will pick them up
when they are released.

Under the "wet foot, dry foot" policy, Cubans who reach U.S. shores are
generally permitted to stay, while those caught at sea are usually taken
back.


You're joking, right? Ever since Fidel took over Cuba in 1959 Cubans have been
escaping to the U.S. by whatever means available to them. We have not been able
to stop the influx of Cuban refugees under Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford,
Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, or Clinton. So, therefore tell my how Bush 2 is doing
any worse than those who preceded him in the office of the President. Homeland
Security not withstanding probably has no more influence stopping the Cuban
influx than any other government program.

Homeland Security is, my understanding anyway, aimed more at the potential
terrorist threat than it is aimed at Cuban refugees trying to escape the
conditions in Cuba and come to the U.S.

The only way, as I see it to stop the Cuban refugee problem would be to build a
Berlin type wall alround our whole border with armed guards stationed every 10'
or so and that might solve the problem of Cuban refugees.

Bush 2 has done no better or worse at stoping the influx of Cuban refugees. I
would like to think that someone as intelligent as you seem to be can see this
too. If not you are letting your dislike or hatred of Bush 2 cloud your
judgement more than just a little bit. The only time the Cuban refugees will
stop trying to come here is when Cuba is once again a "free" country. That may
never happen given the nature of the people there. Only time will tell.

46 days to go..

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

RGrew176 wrote:

From: Harry Krause

No offense to these brave Cubans, and I'm glad they're here safely, but
these kinds of landings speak volumes about the failure of the Bush
Administration to protect out borders. Virtually anyone who wants to can
land a boat on our shorelines, and offload terrorists carrying dangerous
chemical or biological materials. Or they can run a boat into one of our
harbors and have a nice tactical or even a small strategic nuke aboard.
-----------------------------------------


Speedboat smuggles 13 Cubans into U.S.


MARATHON, Fla. (AP) Thirteen Cuban migrants were picked up by U.S.
Border Patrol agents after being smuggled into the Florida Keys aboard a
speedboat, an official said.

Members of the group said they left from Cuba on Friday night, and the
boat left them on Duck Key, about 90 miles southwest of Miami, around 3
a.m. Saturday, Border Patrol supervisor Kerry Heck said.

The group had made it to shore by the time they were spotted, and will
therefore likely be allowed to stay in the country.

When border agents arrived, the boat was gone, and the group - which
included 11 adults, a 3-year-old girl and a 6-year-old boy - gave no
information about their smugglers.

Heck said the group would be taken to a Border Patrol office, then to
the Krome detention center in Miami before they are released. All of
them said they have family members in Florida, who will pick them up
when they are released.

Under the "wet foot, dry foot" policy, Cubans who reach U.S. shores are
generally permitted to stay, while those caught at sea are usually taken
back.


You're joking, right? Ever since Fidel took over Cuba in 1959 Cubans have been
escaping to the U.S. by whatever means available to them. We have not been able
to stop the influx of Cuban refugees under Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford,
Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, or Clinton. So, therefore tell my how Bush 2 is doing
any worse than those who preceded him in the office of the President. Homeland
Security not withstanding probably has no more influence stopping the Cuban
influx than any other government program.


Yeah, I am joking, but only to a point. Of course Bush can't stop the
Cubans, and he can't stop many terrorist who want "in," either, which is
why his concept of Homeland Security is a cruel joke.




Homeland Security is, my understanding anyway, aimed more at the potential
terrorist threat

Ah, yes...stop them in theory.



The only way, as I see it to stop the Cuban refugee problem would be to build a
Berlin type wall alround our whole border with armed guards stationed every 10'
or so and that might solve the problem of Cuban refugees.


No, the way to stop or at least slow illegal Cuban refugees is to
reestablish full diplomatic relations with Cuba and help that nation
rebuild itself while we are waiting for Castro to die.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

"RGrew176" wrote in message
...

You're joking, right? Ever since Fidel took over Cuba in 1959 Cubans have
been
escaping to the U.S. by whatever means available to them. We have not been
able
to stop the influx of Cuban refugees under Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford,
Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, or Clinton. So, therefore tell my how Bush 2 is
doing
any worse than those who preceded him in the office of the President.
Homeland
Security not withstanding probably has no more influence stopping the
Cuban
influx than any other government program.

Why do those escaping Haiti, by boat, bypass the land of peoples nirvana,
Cuba, and try to land in the U.S.?

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

Bert Robbins wrote in message
...

Why do those escaping Haiti, by boat, bypass the land of peoples nirvana,
Cuba, and try to land in the U.S.?

mmmm let's see.........my guess would be yankee dollahs.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote in message
...

Why do those escaping Haiti, by boat, bypass the land of peoples
nirvana,
Cuba, and try to land in the U.S.?

mmmm let's see.........my guess would be yankee dollahs.

Mmmmmmmm........... my guess is that the Cubans have better security and
will not let them land.

Cubans are the best boaters...
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote in message
...

Why do those escaping Haiti, by boat, bypass the land of peoples
nirvana,
Cuba, and try to land in the U.S.?

mmmm let's see.........my guess would be yankee dollahs.

Mmmmmmmm........... my guess is that the Cubans have better security and
will not let them land.



Mmmmmmmm........... my guess is that the Haitians know enouth that they do
not want to have to figure out how to get another boat to escape Cuba. You
have already make it probably 1400 miles to Cuba. What is another 150?
Bill