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Crownline 275 CCR
Last year, the Crownline trademark was introduced to the Pacific NW by
Sport Boat Northwest. Billy Schumacher and Rick English invited us along for one of the very first test rides, and we were very impressed with fit, finish, overall design, and the absolutely "solid" feel of the boat underway. Apparently our general opinion of the brand is not all that unique: Crownline won the JD Power Customer Satisfaction award for small runabouts in 2004, and finished in an absolute tie for first place again in 2005. We believe that is the very first time any boat earned "first place" honors in the small runabout category two years in a row. Sport Boat NW is stocking a very interesting boat built by Crownline, the 275 CCR. The 275 CCR is a very well-equipped "cuddy cabin" design that can be used in a variety of ways certain to appeal to every member of most boating families. The 275 CCR is 28'8" LOA (including standard swim platform), with an 8'6" beam. Dry weight is listed at 6500 pounds. The 275 CCR is one of the growing number of Crownline models featuring F.A.S.T tab ("fin assisted safe turning") hull designs. FAST-tab (tm) hulls incorporate vented chines, and full length keel pads to improve a boat's ability to plane quickly and efficiently. FAST-tab (tm) also includes "vortex generators" to control the flow of water past and under the stern, virtually eliminating the common tendency among outdrives to "wander" at slow speeds. The boat we saw at Sport Boat Northwest was powered with the 496 c.i.d MerCruiser "Mag" engine. The 496 will provide plenty of speed for skiing, tubing, or other water sports, but the good times with this cuddy cabin are not restricted to short hops across the lake or circling endlessly back to the dock. Crownline's cuddy cabin will easily sleep a cruising couple, even a couple with two kids. Versatility is the watchword when space is at a premium, and the 275CCR cuddy is capable of some amazing transformations. During the day, comfortable seating is available along both the port and starboard cabin sides, with a removable pedestal table for dining or card games. At night, the table can be removed and a filler cushion installed in mere moments- converting the forward portion of the cabin into a comfortable overnight berth. (Wide enough for more than two, if everybody sleeps feet-forward). Entertainment systems include a premium Sony marine AM/FM CD stereo, with speakers in the cockpit as well as the cabin and a remote "selector" switch at the helm. A flat screen video monitor is mounted on the forward bulkhead in the cabin, easily viewed by everyone seated around the table or relaxing on the bunk. A cherry wood galley, (just to port of the companionway), features a stainless steel sink, a dual voltage refrigerator, a microwave oven, and stowage recesses. An alcohol/electric stove in an option. One of the features most likely to be appreciated on an extended day cruise or a weekend excursion is the fully enclosed head in the aft starboard quarter of the cabin. No "porta-potti" here, the Crownline 275 CCR's head features a VacuFlush marine toilet that empties into a holding tank, as well as a stainless steel sink, power exhaust fan, and hand held shower with sump pump. The enclosed head also provides a totally private space for changing into or out of swim gear and wet suits, something known to be a consideration on many trailer boats. While the cuddy cabin is well equipped to accommodate a couple or small family group on exploratory cruises into our local islands and beyond, the on-deck features of a craft like the 275 CCR will be high on the list of priorities for happy owners. The helm and port watch seats are comfortable, adjustable, and feature flip up bolsters for extra support when standing or when a higher seating profile is desired. The helm has a standard "tilt" function, and a full set of "Faria" analog instruments. There is seating for an easy 7 in the cockpit, with stowage below most seats. One of the seats conceals a 25-quart carry-on cooler, ideal for packing ice-cold beverages aboard. The aft section of the L-shaped seating includes a collapsing backrest that can be positioned to form a unique "sun lounge" bed in the cockpit. Crownline has molded a set of steps into the sliding bulkhead door separating the cuddy cabin from the cockpit. Access to the foredeck is available up these molded steps and through the hinged center section of the windshield, providing safe and sure footing for deckhands and eliminating any need to "gopher" up from the cabin through the foredeck hatch. Notable deck features include "pop-up" cleats that will be there when needed for a line but can be recessed when not otherwise needed for the stubbing of toes. All rails, cleats, and hardware are stainless steel. A bimini top is standard with the 275CCR, and camper canvas is an available option. Engine access is via an easily operated hatch in the cockpit. A look below decks inspires confidence in the integrity of a Crownline hull. Surfaces are finished, systems are well organized, wires and hoses intelligently routed, and top quality materials are evident wherever one cares to inspect. Sport Boat Northwest outfits their Crownline boats with custom trailers that feature diamond plate fender steps, mag wheels, custom, color keyed powder coating, and other fancy touches. A Crownline will look almost as nice cruising down the interstate or parked in a driveway as it will underway on our gorgeous NW waters. (Almost). Last but not least, there is a stainless steel ski tow rail and eye. Yes, you will want to go fast in the Crownline 275CCR, and you won't be disappointed with its performance. Add the comfort and convenience of the cuddy cabin and you'll want to go far, and long, as well. The Crownline 275CCR currently in stock is available for less than $80,000. |
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wrote in message ups.com... Last year, the Crownline trademark was introduced to the Pacific NW by Sport Boat Northwest. Billy Schumacher and Rick English invited us along for one of the very first test rides, and we were very impressed with fit, finish, overall design, and the absolutely "solid" feel of the boat underway. Apparently our general opinion of the brand is not all that unique: Crownline won the JD Power Customer Satisfaction award for small runabouts in 2004, and finished in an absolute tie for first place again in 2005. We believe that is the very first time any boat earned "first place" honors in the small runabout category two years in a row. Sport Boat NW is stocking a very interesting boat built by Crownline, the 275 CCR. The 275 CCR is a very well-equipped "cuddy cabin" design that can be used in a variety of ways certain to appeal to every member of most boating families. The 275 CCR is 28'8" LOA .............. So what were the downsides of the boat Chuck? ;-) |
Gould,
I have always thought Crownline made a good boat, and have heard from owners that they liked the boat. At one time you believed the JD Power Customer Satisfaction Survey was for sale to the highest bidder. What happened to change your mind? wrote in message ups.com... Last year, the Crownline trademark was introduced to the Pacific NW by Sport Boat Northwest. Billy Schumacher and Rick English invited us along for one of the very first test rides, and we were very impressed with fit, finish, overall design, and the absolutely "solid" feel of the boat underway. Apparently our general opinion of the brand is not all that unique: Crownline won the JD Power Customer Satisfaction award for small runabouts in 2004, and finished in an absolute tie for first place again in 2005. We believe that is the very first time any boat earned "first place" honors in the small runabout category two years in a row. Sport Boat NW is stocking a very interesting boat built by Crownline, the 275 CCR. The 275 CCR is a very well-equipped "cuddy cabin" design that can be used in a variety of ways certain to appeal to every member of most boating families. The 275 CCR is 28'8" LOA (including standard swim platform), with an 8'6" beam. Dry weight is listed at 6500 pounds. The 275 CCR is one of the growing number of Crownline models featuring F.A.S.T tab ("fin assisted safe turning") hull designs. FAST-tab (tm) hulls incorporate vented chines, and full length keel pads to improve a boat's ability to plane quickly and efficiently. FAST-tab (tm) also includes "vortex generators" to control the flow of water past and under the stern, virtually eliminating the common tendency among outdrives to "wander" at slow speeds. The boat we saw at Sport Boat Northwest was powered with the 496 c.i.d MerCruiser "Mag" engine. The 496 will provide plenty of speed for skiing, tubing, or other water sports, but the good times with this cuddy cabin are not restricted to short hops across the lake or circling endlessly back to the dock. Crownline's cuddy cabin will easily sleep a cruising couple, even a couple with two kids. Versatility is the watchword when space is at a premium, and the 275CCR cuddy is capable of some amazing transformations. During the day, comfortable seating is available along both the port and starboard cabin sides, with a removable pedestal table for dining or card games. At night, the table can be removed and a filler cushion installed in mere moments- converting the forward portion of the cabin into a comfortable overnight berth. (Wide enough for more than two, if everybody sleeps feet-forward). Entertainment systems include a premium Sony marine AM/FM CD stereo, with speakers in the cockpit as well as the cabin and a remote "selector" switch at the helm. A flat screen video monitor is mounted on the forward bulkhead in the cabin, easily viewed by everyone seated around the table or relaxing on the bunk. A cherry wood galley, (just to port of the companionway), features a stainless steel sink, a dual voltage refrigerator, a microwave oven, and stowage recesses. An alcohol/electric stove in an option. One of the features most likely to be appreciated on an extended day cruise or a weekend excursion is the fully enclosed head in the aft starboard quarter of the cabin. No "porta-potti" here, the Crownline 275 CCR's head features a VacuFlush marine toilet that empties into a holding tank, as well as a stainless steel sink, power exhaust fan, and hand held shower with sump pump. The enclosed head also provides a totally private space for changing into or out of swim gear and wet suits, something known to be a consideration on many trailer boats. While the cuddy cabin is well equipped to accommodate a couple or small family group on exploratory cruises into our local islands and beyond, the on-deck features of a craft like the 275 CCR will be high on the list of priorities for happy owners. The helm and port watch seats are comfortable, adjustable, and feature flip up bolsters for extra support when standing or when a higher seating profile is desired. The helm has a standard "tilt" function, and a full set of "Faria" analog instruments. There is seating for an easy 7 in the cockpit, with stowage below most seats. One of the seats conceals a 25-quart carry-on cooler, ideal for packing ice-cold beverages aboard. The aft section of the L-shaped seating includes a collapsing backrest that can be positioned to form a unique "sun lounge" bed in the cockpit. Crownline has molded a set of steps into the sliding bulkhead door separating the cuddy cabin from the cockpit. Access to the foredeck is available up these molded steps and through the hinged center section of the windshield, providing safe and sure footing for deckhands and eliminating any need to "gopher" up from the cabin through the foredeck hatch. Notable deck features include "pop-up" cleats that will be there when needed for a line but can be recessed when not otherwise needed for the stubbing of toes. All rails, cleats, and hardware are stainless steel. A bimini top is standard with the 275CCR, and camper canvas is an available option. Engine access is via an easily operated hatch in the cockpit. A look below decks inspires confidence in the integrity of a Crownline hull. Surfaces are finished, systems are well organized, wires and hoses intelligently routed, and top quality materials are evident wherever one cares to inspect. Sport Boat Northwest outfits their Crownline boats with custom trailers that feature diamond plate fender steps, mag wheels, custom, color keyed powder coating, and other fancy touches. A Crownline will look almost as nice cruising down the interstate or parked in a driveway as it will underway on our gorgeous NW waters. (Almost). Last but not least, there is a stainless steel ski tow rail and eye. Yes, you will want to go fast in the Crownline 275CCR, and you won't be disappointed with its performance. Add the comfort and convenience of the cuddy cabin and you'll want to go far, and long, as well. The Crownline 275CCR currently in stock is available for less than $80,000. |
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You seem to be very active in here. So tell us what kind of boat you have
and where you do most ofyour boating. I spend most of my boating time fishing in the tidal marshes of Louisiana where my flatbottom boat seems well suited. "Me Again" wrote in message ... Gould, I have always thought Crownline made a good boat, and have heard from owners that they liked the boat. At one time you believed the JD Power Customer Satisfaction Survey was for sale to the highest bidder. What happened to change your mind? wrote in message ups.com... Last year, the Crownline trademark was introduced to the Pacific NW by Sport Boat Northwest. Billy Schumacher and Rick English invited us along for one of the very first test rides, and we were very impressed with fit, finish, overall design, and the absolutely "solid" feel of the boat underway. Apparently our general opinion of the brand is not all that unique: Crownline won the JD Power Customer Satisfaction award for small runabouts in 2004, and finished in an absolute tie for first place again in 2005. We believe that is the very first time any boat earned "first place" honors in the small runabout category two years in a row. Sport Boat NW is stocking a very interesting boat built by Crownline, the 275 CCR. The 275 CCR is a very well-equipped "cuddy cabin" design that can be used in a variety of ways certain to appeal to every member of most boating families. The 275 CCR is 28'8" LOA (including standard swim platform), with an 8'6" beam. Dry weight is listed at 6500 pounds. The 275 CCR is one of the growing number of Crownline models featuring F.A.S.T tab ("fin assisted safe turning") hull designs. FAST-tab (tm) hulls incorporate vented chines, and full length keel pads to improve a boat's ability to plane quickly and efficiently. FAST-tab (tm) also includes "vortex generators" to control the flow of water past and under the stern, virtually eliminating the common tendency among outdrives to "wander" at slow speeds. The boat we saw at Sport Boat Northwest was powered with the 496 c.i.d MerCruiser "Mag" engine. The 496 will provide plenty of speed for skiing, tubing, or other water sports, but the good times with this cuddy cabin are not restricted to short hops across the lake or circling endlessly back to the dock. Crownline's cuddy cabin will easily sleep a cruising couple, even a couple with two kids. Versatility is the watchword when space is at a premium, and the 275CCR cuddy is capable of some amazing transformations. During the day, comfortable seating is available along both the port and starboard cabin sides, with a removable pedestal table for dining or card games. At night, the table can be removed and a filler cushion installed in mere moments- converting the forward portion of the cabin into a comfortable overnight berth. (Wide enough for more than two, if everybody sleeps feet-forward). Entertainment systems include a premium Sony marine AM/FM CD stereo, with speakers in the cockpit as well as the cabin and a remote "selector" switch at the helm. A flat screen video monitor is mounted on the forward bulkhead in the cabin, easily viewed by everyone seated around the table or relaxing on the bunk. A cherry wood galley, (just to port of the companionway), features a stainless steel sink, a dual voltage refrigerator, a microwave oven, and stowage recesses. An alcohol/electric stove in an option. One of the features most likely to be appreciated on an extended day cruise or a weekend excursion is the fully enclosed head in the aft starboard quarter of the cabin. No "porta-potti" here, the Crownline 275 CCR's head features a VacuFlush marine toilet that empties into a holding tank, as well as a stainless steel sink, power exhaust fan, and hand held shower with sump pump. The enclosed head also provides a totally private space for changing into or out of swim gear and wet suits, something known to be a consideration on many trailer boats. While the cuddy cabin is well equipped to accommodate a couple or small family group on exploratory cruises into our local islands and beyond, the on-deck features of a craft like the 275 CCR will be high on the list of priorities for happy owners. The helm and port watch seats are comfortable, adjustable, and feature flip up bolsters for extra support when standing or when a higher seating profile is desired. The helm has a standard "tilt" function, and a full set of "Faria" analog instruments. There is seating for an easy 7 in the cockpit, with stowage below most seats. One of the seats conceals a 25-quart carry-on cooler, ideal for packing ice-cold beverages aboard. The aft section of the L-shaped seating includes a collapsing backrest that can be positioned to form a unique "sun lounge" bed in the cockpit. Crownline has molded a set of steps into the sliding bulkhead door separating the cuddy cabin from the cockpit. Access to the foredeck is available up these molded steps and through the hinged center section of the windshield, providing safe and sure footing for deckhands and eliminating any need to "gopher" up from the cabin through the foredeck hatch. Notable deck features include "pop-up" cleats that will be there when needed for a line but can be recessed when not otherwise needed for the stubbing of toes. All rails, cleats, and hardware are stainless steel. A bimini top is standard with the 275CCR, and camper canvas is an available option. Engine access is via an easily operated hatch in the cockpit. A look below decks inspires confidence in the integrity of a Crownline hull. Surfaces are finished, systems are well organized, wires and hoses intelligently routed, and top quality materials are evident wherever one cares to inspect. Sport Boat Northwest outfits their Crownline boats with custom trailers that feature diamond plate fender steps, mag wheels, custom, color keyed powder coating, and other fancy touches. A Crownline will look almost as nice cruising down the interstate or parked in a driveway as it will underway on our gorgeous NW waters. (Almost). Last but not least, there is a stainless steel ski tow rail and eye. Yes, you will want to go fast in the Crownline 275CCR, and you won't be disappointed with its performance. Add the comfort and convenience of the cuddy cabin and you'll want to go far, and long, as well. The Crownline 275CCR currently in stock is available for less than $80,000. |
SoFarell,
As I said earlier, I have boated in the Gulf, the Atlantic and Pacific, all the Great Lakes (except for Superior), Long Island Sound, lakes in the west, SW and SE, and the Keys. I have never boated in Louisiana, but I know it is a fisherman's paradise. I have gone fishing in the tidal area of North Caroline, catching shrimp as the tide came in and out, and then pulling oyster clusters up during low tide. Since I love crawfish, if I was in Louisiana, I think I would have to figure out how to catch them. I would assume you use a net, similar to casting for shrimp, but am not certain. I would also like to find a good old boy who would catch me a gator. I love gator steaks and stews, but even I am not stupid enough to try to catch one on my own. "SoFarrell" wrote in message news:1113053921.d01cd85d55d7d961da6cf9d7ee380b62@t eranews... You seem to be very active in here. So tell us what kind of boat you have and where you do most ofyour boating. I spend most of my boating time fishing in the tidal marshes of Louisiana where my flatbottom boat seems well suited. "Me Again" wrote in message ... Gould, I have always thought Crownline made a good boat, and have heard from owners that they liked the boat. At one time you believed the JD Power Customer Satisfaction Survey was for sale to the highest bidder. What happened to change your mind? wrote in message ups.com... Last year, the Crownline trademark was introduced to the Pacific NW by Sport Boat Northwest. Billy Schumacher and Rick English invited us along for one of the very first test rides, and we were very impressed with fit, finish, overall design, and the absolutely "solid" feel of the boat underway. Apparently our general opinion of the brand is not all that unique: Crownline won the JD Power Customer Satisfaction award for small runabouts in 2004, and finished in an absolute tie for first place again in 2005. We believe that is the very first time any boat earned "first place" honors in the small runabout category two years in a row. Sport Boat NW is stocking a very interesting boat built by Crownline, the 275 CCR. The 275 CCR is a very well-equipped "cuddy cabin" design that can be used in a variety of ways certain to appeal to every member of most boating families. The 275 CCR is 28'8" LOA (including standard swim platform), with an 8'6" beam. Dry weight is listed at 6500 pounds. The 275 CCR is one of the growing number of Crownline models featuring F.A.S.T tab ("fin assisted safe turning") hull designs. FAST-tab (tm) hulls incorporate vented chines, and full length keel pads to improve a boat's ability to plane quickly and efficiently. FAST-tab (tm) also includes "vortex generators" to control the flow of water past and under the stern, virtually eliminating the common tendency among outdrives to "wander" at slow speeds. The boat we saw at Sport Boat Northwest was powered with the 496 c.i.d MerCruiser "Mag" engine. The 496 will provide plenty of speed for skiing, tubing, or other water sports, but the good times with this cuddy cabin are not restricted to short hops across the lake or circling endlessly back to the dock. Crownline's cuddy cabin will easily sleep a cruising couple, even a couple with two kids. Versatility is the watchword when space is at a premium, and the 275CCR cuddy is capable of some amazing transformations. During the day, comfortable seating is available along both the port and starboard cabin sides, with a removable pedestal table for dining or card games. At night, the table can be removed and a filler cushion installed in mere moments- converting the forward portion of the cabin into a comfortable overnight berth. (Wide enough for more than two, if everybody sleeps feet-forward). Entertainment systems include a premium Sony marine AM/FM CD stereo, with speakers in the cockpit as well as the cabin and a remote "selector" switch at the helm. A flat screen video monitor is mounted on the forward bulkhead in the cabin, easily viewed by everyone seated around the table or relaxing on the bunk. A cherry wood galley, (just to port of the companionway), features a stainless steel sink, a dual voltage refrigerator, a microwave oven, and stowage recesses. An alcohol/electric stove in an option. One of the features most likely to be appreciated on an extended day cruise or a weekend excursion is the fully enclosed head in the aft starboard quarter of the cabin. No "porta-potti" here, the Crownline 275 CCR's head features a VacuFlush marine toilet that empties into a holding tank, as well as a stainless steel sink, power exhaust fan, and hand held shower with sump pump. The enclosed head also provides a totally private space for changing into or out of swim gear and wet suits, something known to be a consideration on many trailer boats. While the cuddy cabin is well equipped to accommodate a couple or small family group on exploratory cruises into our local islands and beyond, the on-deck features of a craft like the 275 CCR will be high on the list of priorities for happy owners. The helm and port watch seats are comfortable, adjustable, and feature flip up bolsters for extra support when standing or when a higher seating profile is desired. The helm has a standard "tilt" function, and a full set of "Faria" analog instruments. There is seating for an easy 7 in the cockpit, with stowage below most seats. One of the seats conceals a 25-quart carry-on cooler, ideal for packing ice-cold beverages aboard. The aft section of the L-shaped seating includes a collapsing backrest that can be positioned to form a unique "sun lounge" bed in the cockpit. Crownline has molded a set of steps into the sliding bulkhead door separating the cuddy cabin from the cockpit. Access to the foredeck is available up these molded steps and through the hinged center section of the windshield, providing safe and sure footing for deckhands and eliminating any need to "gopher" up from the cabin through the foredeck hatch. Notable deck features include "pop-up" cleats that will be there when needed for a line but can be recessed when not otherwise needed for the stubbing of toes. All rails, cleats, and hardware are stainless steel. A bimini top is standard with the 275CCR, and camper canvas is an available option. Engine access is via an easily operated hatch in the cockpit. A look below decks inspires confidence in the integrity of a Crownline hull. Surfaces are finished, systems are well organized, wires and hoses intelligently routed, and top quality materials are evident wherever one cares to inspect. Sport Boat Northwest outfits their Crownline boats with custom trailers that feature diamond plate fender steps, mag wheels, custom, color keyed powder coating, and other fancy touches. A Crownline will look almost as nice cruising down the interstate or parked in a driveway as it will underway on our gorgeous NW waters. (Almost). Last but not least, there is a stainless steel ski tow rail and eye. Yes, you will want to go fast in the Crownline 275CCR, and you won't be disappointed with its performance. Add the comfort and convenience of the cuddy cabin and you'll want to go far, and long, as well. The Crownline 275CCR currently in stock is available for less than $80,000. |
Me Again,
Check out PowerBoat Reports. No advertising. Paul Me Again wrote: Karen, Even if this is SPAM, it does encourage discussion of the boat and boat reviews in general. I have never seen a magazine that sold ad space, that ever wrote a review that was not a thinly disguised ad. Gould's article is a good as any I have read in any of the National Publications, it highlights the features, it sells the sizzle, and ignores any problems with the boat. "K. Smith" wrote in message ... wrote: Last year, the Crownline trademark was introduced to the Pacific NW by Sport Boat Northwest. Billy Schumacher and Rick English invited us along for one of the very first test rides, and we were very impressed with fit, finish, overall design, and the absolutely "solid" feel of the boat underway. Apparently our general opinion of the brand is not all that unique: Crownline won the JD Power Customer Satisfaction award for small runabouts in 2004, and finished in an absolute tie for first place again in 2005. We believe that is the very first time any boat earned "first place" honors in the small runabout category two years in a row. Sport Boat NW is stocking a very interesting boat built by Crownline, the 275 CCR. The 275 CCR is a very well-equipped "cuddy cabin" design that can be used in a variety of ways certain to appeal to every member of most boating families. The 275 CCR is 28'8" LOA (including standard swim platform), with an 8'6" beam. Dry weight is listed at 6500 pounds. The 275 CCR is one of the growing number of Crownline models featuring F.A.S.T tab ("fin assisted safe turning") hull designs. FAST-tab (tm) hulls incorporate vented chines, and full length keel pads to improve a boat's ability to plane quickly and efficiently. FAST-tab (tm) also includes "vortex generators" to control the flow of water past and under the stern, virtually eliminating the common tendency among outdrives to "wander" at slow speeds. The boat we saw at Sport Boat Northwest was powered with the 496 c.i.d MerCruiser "Mag" engine. The 496 will provide plenty of speed for skiing, tubing, or other water sports, but the good times with this cuddy cabin are not restricted to short hops across the lake or circling endlessly back to the dock. Crownline's cuddy cabin will easily sleep a cruising couple, even a couple with two kids. Versatility is the watchword when space is at a premium, and the 275CCR cuddy is capable of some amazing transformations. During the day, comfortable seating is available along both the port and starboard cabin sides, with a removable pedestal table for dining or card games. At night, the table can be removed and a filler cushion installed in mere moments- converting the forward portion of the cabin into a comfortable overnight berth. (Wide enough for more than two, if everybody sleeps feet-forward). Entertainment systems include a premium Sony marine AM/FM CD stereo, with speakers in the cockpit as well as the cabin and a remote "selector" switch at the helm. A flat screen video monitor is mounted on the forward bulkhead in the cabin, easily viewed by everyone seated around the table or relaxing on the bunk. A cherry wood galley, (just to port of the companionway), features a stainless steel sink, a dual voltage refrigerator, a microwave oven, and stowage recesses. An alcohol/electric stove in an option. One of the features most likely to be appreciated on an extended day cruise or a weekend excursion is the fully enclosed head in the aft starboard quarter of the cabin. No "porta-potti" here, the Crownline 275 CCR's head features a VacuFlush marine toilet that empties into a holding tank, as well as a stainless steel sink, power exhaust fan, and hand held shower with sump pump. The enclosed head also provides a totally private space for changing into or out of swim gear and wet suits, something known to be a consideration on many trailer boats. While the cuddy cabin is well equipped to accommodate a couple or small family group on exploratory cruises into our local islands and beyond, the on-deck features of a craft like the 275 CCR will be high on the list of priorities for happy owners. The helm and port watch seats are comfortable, adjustable, and feature flip up bolsters for extra support when standing or when a higher seating profile is desired. The helm has a standard "tilt" function, and a full set of "Faria" analog instruments. There is seating for an easy 7 in the cockpit, with stowage below most seats. One of the seats conceals a 25-quart carry-on cooler, ideal for packing ice-cold beverages aboard. The aft section of the L-shaped seating includes a collapsing backrest that can be positioned to form a unique "sun lounge" bed in the cockpit. Crownline has molded a set of steps into the sliding bulkhead door separating the cuddy cabin from the cockpit. Access to the foredeck is available up these molded steps and through the hinged center section of the windshield, providing safe and sure footing for deckhands and eliminating any need to "gopher" up from the cabin through the foredeck hatch. Notable deck features include "pop-up" cleats that will be there when needed for a line but can be recessed when not otherwise needed for the stubbing of toes. All rails, cleats, and hardware are stainless steel. A bimini top is standard with the 275CCR, and camper canvas is an available option. Engine access is via an easily operated hatch in the cockpit. A look below decks inspires confidence in the integrity of a Crownline hull. Surfaces are finished, systems are well organized, wires and hoses intelligently routed, and top quality materials are evident wherever one cares to inspect. Sport Boat Northwest outfits their Crownline boats with custom trailers that feature diamond plate fender steps, mag wheels, custom, color keyed powder coating, and other fancy touches. A Crownline will look almost as nice cruising down the interstate or parked in a driveway as it will underway on our gorgeous NW waters. (Almost). Last but not least, there is a stainless steel ski tow rail and eye. Yes, you will want to go fast in the Crownline 275CCR, and you won't be disappointed with its performance. Add the comfort and convenience of the cuddy cabin and you'll want to go far, and long, as well. The Crownline 275CCR currently in stock is available for less than $80,000. Gees Louise now look what you've done John!!! I warned you; he's done this several times over the years so he can post his spam unhindered. I know I know I know, tell me again how "you" don't think it's spam:-) But spam it is:-) Anyway expect more & more of the same from this deceptive spammer. Note no mention of the overpricing?? I guess a deception works till you get caught, besides he's already been paid or got the advertising:-) Anyway hands up all those who want to get ripped off???? K Been busy today so I'll keep the Krause lie of the day short. This lying simpleton, after it became clear he was losing a thread where he was displaying his usual lack of patriotism much less gratitude for the brave men & women out there risking their everything, to keep the likes of him safe, he just reverts to type. But seriously can you imagine this uneducated union thug now claims he is reviewing universities!!! & wait for it he poo poos the engineering course!!! this from a lying uneducated union thug who couldn't use a toaster without a union authorised electrician in attendance. I've included just one of the followup responses but it was such a bald faced lie it even embarrassed the rejoinders:-) I have visited West Point, the Naval Academy, the Air Force Academy and the sub training facility at Groton. Some years ago, I actually did look over descriptions of some of the course material at Annapolis and the c.v.'s of some of the faculty. I'm sure the engineering course material is fairly rigorous, though it is more "trade-oriented" and did not look up to MIT or CalTech standards. I mean, if your goal is to be an aeronautical engineer, you're going to get better training at MIT or CalTech or at any of a large number of other engineering schools. I thought the faculty academic credentials no better than what is found at a typical smaller four year public university. The military academies turn out military officers with an education, not highly educated military officers. But that is their purpose, eh? -- Holy molly, grandma, put on your high boots. Harry Krause, admitted graduate in the humanities with a degree in English is hereby qualified to critique the engineering curriculum of not only West Point, but also that of the Naval Academy and the Air Force Academy and compare it to that of MIT and CalTech. The above paragraph is a classic. You missed your calling Harry. |
Chuck,
I'm glad this manufacturer has addressed the problem of wandering. I find this a very annoying trait. Paul wrote: snipped FAST-tab (tm) also includes "vortex generators" to control the flow of water past and under the stern, virtually eliminating the common tendency among outdrives to "wander" at slow speeds. snipped |
Paul,
I agree PowerBoat Reports is as good as it gets. The last time I looked the problem was they had reviewed a limited number of boats. I just double checked and they do look better, but it was hard to tell how old some of the reviews were. "Paul Schilter" ""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote in message ... Me Again, Check out PowerBoat Reports. No advertising. Paul Me Again wrote: Karen, Even if this is SPAM, it does encourage discussion of the boat and boat reviews in general. I have never seen a magazine that sold ad space, that ever wrote a review that was not a thinly disguised ad. Gould's article is a good as any I have read in any of the National Publications, it highlights the features, it sells the sizzle, and ignores any problems with the boat. "K. Smith" wrote in message ... wrote: Last year, the Crownline trademark was introduced to the Pacific NW by Sport Boat Northwest. Billy Schumacher and Rick English invited us along for one of the very first test rides, and we were very impressed with fit, finish, overall design, and the absolutely "solid" feel of the boat underway. Apparently our general opinion of the brand is not all that unique: Crownline won the JD Power Customer Satisfaction award for small runabouts in 2004, and finished in an absolute tie for first place again in 2005. We believe that is the very first time any boat earned "first place" honors in the small runabout category two years in a row. Sport Boat NW is stocking a very interesting boat built by Crownline, the 275 CCR. The 275 CCR is a very well-equipped "cuddy cabin" design that can be used in a variety of ways certain to appeal to every member of most boating families. The 275 CCR is 28'8" LOA (including standard swim platform), with an 8'6" beam. Dry weight is listed at 6500 pounds. The 275 CCR is one of the growing number of Crownline models featuring F.A.S.T tab ("fin assisted safe turning") hull designs. FAST-tab (tm) hulls incorporate vented chines, and full length keel pads to improve a boat's ability to plane quickly and efficiently. FAST-tab (tm) also includes "vortex generators" to control the flow of water past and under the stern, virtually eliminating the common tendency among outdrives to "wander" at slow speeds. The boat we saw at Sport Boat Northwest was powered with the 496 c.i.d MerCruiser "Mag" engine. The 496 will provide plenty of speed for skiing, tubing, or other water sports, but the good times with this cuddy cabin are not restricted to short hops across the lake or circling endlessly back to the dock. Crownline's cuddy cabin will easily sleep a cruising couple, even a couple with two kids. Versatility is the watchword when space is at a premium, and the 275CCR cuddy is capable of some amazing transformations. During the day, comfortable seating is available along both the port and starboard cabin sides, with a removable pedestal table for dining or card games. At night, the table can be removed and a filler cushion installed in mere moments- converting the forward portion of the cabin into a comfortable overnight berth. (Wide enough for more than two, if everybody sleeps feet-forward). Entertainment systems include a premium Sony marine AM/FM CD stereo, with speakers in the cockpit as well as the cabin and a remote "selector" switch at the helm. A flat screen video monitor is mounted on the forward bulkhead in the cabin, easily viewed by everyone seated around the table or relaxing on the bunk. A cherry wood galley, (just to port of the companionway), features a stainless steel sink, a dual voltage refrigerator, a microwave oven, and stowage recesses. An alcohol/electric stove in an option. One of the features most likely to be appreciated on an extended day cruise or a weekend excursion is the fully enclosed head in the aft starboard quarter of the cabin. No "porta-potti" here, the Crownline 275 CCR's head features a VacuFlush marine toilet that empties into a holding tank, as well as a stainless steel sink, power exhaust fan, and hand held shower with sump pump. The enclosed head also provides a totally private space for changing into or out of swim gear and wet suits, something known to be a consideration on many trailer boats. While the cuddy cabin is well equipped to accommodate a couple or small family group on exploratory cruises into our local islands and beyond, the on-deck features of a craft like the 275 CCR will be high on the list of priorities for happy owners. The helm and port watch seats are comfortable, adjustable, and feature flip up bolsters for extra support when standing or when a higher seating profile is desired. The helm has a standard "tilt" function, and a full set of "Faria" analog instruments. There is seating for an easy 7 in the cockpit, with stowage below most seats. One of the seats conceals a 25-quart carry-on cooler, ideal for packing ice-cold beverages aboard. The aft section of the L-shaped seating includes a collapsing backrest that can be positioned to form a unique "sun lounge" bed in the cockpit. Crownline has molded a set of steps into the sliding bulkhead door separating the cuddy cabin from the cockpit. Access to the foredeck is available up these molded steps and through the hinged center section of the windshield, providing safe and sure footing for deckhands and eliminating any need to "gopher" up from the cabin through the foredeck hatch. Notable deck features include "pop-up" cleats that will be there when needed for a line but can be recessed when not otherwise needed for the stubbing of toes. All rails, cleats, and hardware are stainless steel. A bimini top is standard with the 275CCR, and camper canvas is an available option. Engine access is via an easily operated hatch in the cockpit. A look below decks inspires confidence in the integrity of a Crownline hull. Surfaces are finished, systems are well organized, wires and hoses intelligently routed, and top quality materials are evident wherever one cares to inspect. Sport Boat Northwest outfits their Crownline boats with custom trailers that feature diamond plate fender steps, mag wheels, custom, color keyed powder coating, and other fancy touches. A Crownline will look almost as nice cruising down the interstate or parked in a driveway as it will underway on our gorgeous NW waters. (Almost). Last but not least, there is a stainless steel ski tow rail and eye. Yes, you will want to go fast in the Crownline 275CCR, and you won't be disappointed with its performance. Add the comfort and convenience of the cuddy cabin and you'll want to go far, and long, as well. The Crownline 275CCR currently in stock is available for less than $80,000. Gees Louise now look what you've done John!!! I warned you; he's done this several times over the years so he can post his spam unhindered. I know I know I know, tell me again how "you" don't think it's spam:-) But spam it is:-) Anyway expect more & more of the same from this deceptive spammer. Note no mention of the overpricing?? I guess a deception works till you get caught, besides he's already been paid or got the advertising:-) Anyway hands up all those who want to get ripped off???? K Been busy today so I'll keep the Krause lie of the day short. This lying simpleton, after it became clear he was losing a thread where he was displaying his usual lack of patriotism much less gratitude for the brave men & women out there risking their everything, to keep the likes of him safe, he just reverts to type. But seriously can you imagine this uneducated union thug now claims he is reviewing universities!!! & wait for it he poo poos the engineering course!!! this from a lying uneducated union thug who couldn't use a toaster without a union authorised electrician in attendance. I've included just one of the followup responses but it was such a bald faced lie it even embarrassed the rejoinders:-) I have visited West Point, the Naval Academy, the Air Force Academy and the sub training facility at Groton. Some years ago, I actually did look over descriptions of some of the course material at Annapolis and the c.v.'s of some of the faculty. I'm sure the engineering course material is fairly rigorous, though it is more "trade-oriented" and did not look up to MIT or CalTech standards. I mean, if your goal is to be an aeronautical engineer, you're going to get better training at MIT or CalTech or at any of a large number of other engineering schools. I thought the faculty academic credentials no better than what is found at a typical smaller four year public university. The military academies turn out military officers with an education, not highly educated military officers. But that is their purpose, eh? -- Holy molly, grandma, put on your high boots. Harry Krause, admitted graduate in the humanities with a degree in English is hereby qualified to critique the engineering curriculum of not only West Point, but also that of the Naval Academy and the Air Force Academy and compare it to that of MIT and CalTech. The above paragraph is a classic. You missed your calling Harry. |
Me Again wrote: SoFarell, As I said earlier, I have boated in the Gulf, the Atlantic and Pacific, all the Great Lakes (except for Superior), Long Island Sound, lakes in the west, SW and SE, and the Keys. I never heard of any lakes in the Keys although there may be a pond or two on Marathon, Big Pine, or Key West. Whose boat were you on when you made all of these trips? |
Excuse my poor syntax, I meant to say I sailed out of Key West, , I did not
mean I boated on lakes in the Keys, but that I had boated in the Keys. ; ) As far as whose boats these were, most of the time they were mine, but I also chartered boats and would go boating when visiting family and friends. The sailboat out of Key West was with an old high school friend. "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... Me Again wrote: SoFarell, As I said earlier, I have boated in the Gulf, the Atlantic and Pacific, all the Great Lakes (except for Superior), Long Island Sound, lakes in the west, SW and SE, and the Keys. I never heard of any lakes in the Keys although there may be a pond or two on Marathon, Big Pine, or Key West. Whose boat were you on when you made all of these trips? |
Gould,
I have always thought Crownline made a good boat, and have heard from owners that they liked the boat. At one time you believed the JD Power Customer Satisfaction Survey was for sale to the highest bidder. What happened to change your mind? ************** My personal feelings (and nagging suspicions that the design of the questions have a lot to do with the out come) aside, it is a fact that Crownline won the "small runabout" category in 2004 and wound up in an exact tie for first in the same category in 2005. Among other winners in 2005 were Cobalt and Sea Ray. As I stated, the JD Power survey simply indicates that other people also feel the latest boats from Crownline are a very good product. Would I buy a boat or other product based solely or primarily on a Powers rating? No. If I were looking at a product that scored poorly in the Powers ratings, I'd probably take second look to see if there might be something I missed the first time around, but if I satisfied all of my personal standards I would not buy or not buy based solely on Powers. It's a point of interest, not the primary benefit of the boat. |
Mostly a group of cuddy-cabin "isms". IMO.
I want a cabin I can stand up in, personally, but you don't find that in most boats in this category. No place for charting. Everybody sits on the head, regardless of gender or type of use. Stowage at a real premium. All cuddy-cabinisms. This boat would be super for a weekend. It would be suitable for longer cruises (like a 10 day vacation) with frequent reprovisioning. Not that big an inconvenience, as I suspect anybody running that big engine really hard will be stopping for fuel every day or so anyway. If I were designing the boat, I would put in some sort of galley stove as a standard item. The small fridge is standard, and so is the microwave. As there is no gen set, you can't even make coffee unless you're on the 110 umblilical cord. Maybe the alcohol electric stove is an option to help reduce the mfgr's liability- those things do cause a bit of damage sometimes and there could be some finite legal point revolving around "the customer asked for the stove, specificially"? Who knows. The text does say that a cooktop is optional, not standard. Did I find a glaring cheapness or obvious deficiency? Frankly, no. There are hundreds of little subjective things that any two people would disagree on- but during the brief inspection described there was nothing that seemed tackily done. |
Chuck,
I'm glad this manufacturer has addressed the problem of wandering. I find this a very annoying trait. Paul *********** That was one of the more impressive discoveries during the test run we did last year. Crownline makes the claim that the vortex generators solve the wandering at slow speeds, and this proved out during the test. (We did not get underway in the 275 CCR in this article) |
On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:58:52 -0400, "Me Again" wrote:
I have boated in the Gulf, the Atlantic and Pacific, all the Great Lakes (except for Superior), Long Island Sound, lakes in the west, SW and SE, and the Keys. ========================== That's nice, where do you boat now? |
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I keep my boat on a large inland lake.
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:58:52 -0400, "Me Again" wrote: I have boated in the Gulf, the Atlantic and Pacific, all the Great Lakes (except for Superior), Long Island Sound, lakes in the west, SW and SE, and the Keys. ========================== That's nice, where do you boat now? |
Being a Crownline owner, I think I know how they got their high rating.
They make a good solid product and back it up. I had a problem with my 210ccr (95) headliner two years after I purchased it. I sent them a letter and at the time. Then was moving from Columbia SC to Atlanta Ga. To make me harder to find the new company I was working for sent me off to training in yet another state. The tracked me down in Rockville Md and left me a toll free number to call them back at my hotel. The defect was not covered by any warrentee that I could see. But all they asked me was who did "I" want to do the work. :-) Personaly I liked the artical Capt Jack R.. Me Again wrote: Karen, Even if this is SPAM, it does encourage discussion of the boat and boat reviews in general. I have never seen a magazine that sold ad space, that ever wrote a review that was not a thinly disguised ad. Gould's article is a good as any I have read in any of the National Publications, it highlights the features, it sells the sizzle, and ignores any problems with the boat. "K. Smith" wrote in message ... wrote: Last year, the Crownline trademark was introduced to the Pacific NW by Sport Boat Northwest. Billy Schumacher and Rick English invited us along for one of the very first test rides, and we were very impressed with fit, finish, overall design, and the absolutely "solid" feel of the boat underway. Apparently our general opinion of the brand is not all that unique: Crownline won the JD Power Customer Satisfaction award for small runabouts in 2004, and finished in an absolute tie for first place again in 2005. We believe that is the very first time any boat earned "first place" honors in the small runabout category two years in a row. Sport Boat NW is stocking a very interesting boat built by Crownline, the 275 CCR. The 275 CCR is a very well-equipped "cuddy cabin" design that can be used in a variety of ways certain to appeal to every member of most boating families. The 275 CCR is 28'8" LOA (including standard swim platform), with an 8'6" beam. Dry weight is listed at 6500 pounds. The 275 CCR is one of the growing number of Crownline models featuring F.A.S.T tab ("fin assisted safe turning") hull designs. FAST-tab (tm) hulls incorporate vented chines, and full length keel pads to improve a boat's ability to plane quickly and efficiently. FAST-tab (tm) also includes "vortex generators" to control the flow of water past and under the stern, virtually eliminating the common tendency among outdrives to "wander" at slow speeds. The boat we saw at Sport Boat Northwest was powered with the 496 c.i.d MerCruiser "Mag" engine. The 496 will provide plenty of speed for skiing, tubing, or other water sports, but the good times with this cuddy cabin are not restricted to short hops across the lake or circling endlessly back to the dock. Crownline's cuddy cabin will easily sleep a cruising couple, even a couple with two kids. Versatility is the watchword when space is at a premium, and the 275CCR cuddy is capable of some amazing transformations. During the day, comfortable seating is available along both the port and starboard cabin sides, with a removable pedestal table for dining or card games. At night, the table can be removed and a filler cushion installed in mere moments- converting the forward portion of the cabin into a comfortable overnight berth. (Wide enough for more than two, if everybody sleeps feet-forward). Entertainment systems include a premium Sony marine AM/FM CD stereo, with speakers in the cockpit as well as the cabin and a remote "selector" switch at the helm. A flat screen video monitor is mounted on the forward bulkhead in the cabin, easily viewed by everyone seated around the table or relaxing on the bunk. A cherry wood galley, (just to port of the companionway), features a stainless steel sink, a dual voltage refrigerator, a microwave oven, and stowage recesses. An alcohol/electric stove in an option. One of the features most likely to be appreciated on an extended day cruise or a weekend excursion is the fully enclosed head in the aft starboard quarter of the cabin. No "porta-potti" here, the Crownline 275 CCR's head features a VacuFlush marine toilet that empties into a holding tank, as well as a stainless steel sink, power exhaust fan, and hand held shower with sump pump. The enclosed head also provides a totally private space for changing into or out of swim gear and wet suits, something known to be a consideration on many trailer boats. While the cuddy cabin is well equipped to accommodate a couple or small family group on exploratory cruises into our local islands and beyond, the on-deck features of a craft like the 275 CCR will be high on the list of priorities for happy owners. The helm and port watch seats are comfortable, adjustable, and feature flip up bolsters for extra support when standing or when a higher seating profile is desired. The helm has a standard "tilt" function, and a full set of "Faria" analog instruments. There is seating for an easy 7 in the cockpit, with stowage below most seats. One of the seats conceals a 25-quart carry-on cooler, ideal for packing ice-cold beverages aboard. The aft section of the L-shaped seating includes a collapsing backrest that can be positioned to form a unique "sun lounge" bed in the cockpit. Crownline has molded a set of steps into the sliding bulkhead door separating the cuddy cabin from the cockpit. Access to the foredeck is available up these molded steps and through the hinged center section of the windshield, providing safe and sure footing for deckhands and eliminating any need to "gopher" up from the cabin through the foredeck hatch. Notable deck features include "pop-up" cleats that will be there when needed for a line but can be recessed when not otherwise needed for the stubbing of toes. All rails, cleats, and hardware are stainless steel. A bimini top is standard with the 275CCR, and camper canvas is an available option. Engine access is via an easily operated hatch in the cockpit. A look below decks inspires confidence in the integrity of a Crownline hull. Surfaces are finished, systems are well organized, wires and hoses intelligently routed, and top quality materials are evident wherever one cares to inspect. Sport Boat Northwest outfits their Crownline boats with custom trailers that feature diamond plate fender steps, mag wheels, custom, color keyed powder coating, and other fancy touches. A Crownline will look almost as nice cruising down the interstate or parked in a driveway as it will underway on our gorgeous NW waters. (Almost). Last but not least, there is a stainless steel ski tow rail and eye. Yes, you will want to go fast in the Crownline 275CCR, and you won't be disappointed with its performance. Add the comfort and convenience of the cuddy cabin and you'll want to go far, and long, as well. The Crownline 275CCR currently in stock is available for less than $80,000. Gees Louise now look what you've done John!!! I warned you; he's done this several times over the years so he can post his spam unhindered. I know I know I know, tell me again how "you" don't think it's spam:-) But spam it is:-) Anyway expect more & more of the same from this deceptive spammer. Note no mention of the overpricing?? I guess a deception works till you get caught, besides he's already been paid or got the advertising:-) Anyway hands up all those who want to get ripped off???? K Been busy today so I'll keep the Krause lie of the day short. This lying simpleton, after it became clear he was losing a thread where he was displaying his usual lack of patriotism much less gratitude for the brave men & women out there risking their everything, to keep the likes of him safe, he just reverts to type. But seriously can you imagine this uneducated union thug now claims he is reviewing universities!!! & wait for it he poo poos the engineering course!!! this from a lying uneducated union thug who couldn't use a toaster without a union authorised electrician in attendance. I've included just one of the followup responses but it was such a bald faced lie it even embarrassed the rejoinders:-) I have visited West Point, the Naval Academy, the Air Force Academy and the sub training facility at Groton. Some years ago, I actually did look over descriptions of some of the course material at Annapolis and the c.v.'s of some of the faculty. I'm sure the engineering course material is fairly rigorous, though it is more "trade-oriented" and did not look up to MIT or CalTech standards. I mean, if your goal is to be an aeronautical engineer, you're going to get better training at MIT or CalTech or at any of a large number of other engineering schools. I thought the faculty academic credentials no better than what is found at a typical smaller four year public university. The military academies turn out military officers with an education, not highly educated military officers. But that is their purpose, eh? -- Holy molly, grandma, put on your high boots. Harry Krause, admitted graduate in the humanities with a degree in English is hereby qualified to critique the engineering curriculum of not only West Point, but also that of the Naval Academy and the Air Force Academy and compare it to that of MIT and CalTech. The above paragraph is a classic. You missed your calling Harry. |
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