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Capt. Neal® April 4th 05 10:49 PM


"DSK" wrote in message . ..
Most Trouble free refrigeration?

I am assembling a refrigeration system and am interested in what other
folks have & have not found troublesome.

Thanks in advance.

Doug King


Duh! Assembling it for use where? Don't you think that very important piece of
info should be included if you expect to get any reasonable answers?

Why is it so many people these days are too stupid to know how to ask a simple
question?

CN



DSK April 4th 05 11:12 PM

Most Trouble free refrigeration?
 
Most Trouble free refrigeration?

I am assembling a refrigeration system and am interested in what other
folks have & have not found troublesome.

Thanks in advance.

Doug King


jps April 5th 05 12:26 AM

In article ,
says...

"DSK" wrote in message . ..
Most Trouble free refrigeration?

I am assembling a refrigeration system and am interested in what other
folks have & have not found troublesome.

Thanks in advance.

Doug King


Duh! Assembling it for use where? Don't you think that very important piece of
info should be included if you expect to get any reasonable answers?

Why is it so many people these days are too stupid to know how to ask a simple
question?

CN


Here's a question.

How come Capt.Neal is such a cocksucker?

Specific enough or do you require further info?

jps

DSK April 5th 05 01:41 AM

Harry Krause wrote:
Refrigeration system for a small boat without a generator.


I should have said, this is for a 36' trawler with a genset and a decent
12V bank. I'm leaning most strongly towards 12V compressor, air cooled
condenser.

I have an electric refrigerator on my Parker. Never used it.


Why not, doesn't it work?

I have a great thick cooler I load with ice. Got a temp gauge hooked up
through it. Keeps fresh food at safe temps for four or five days.
No trouble.


Why do you need a thermometer? Don't you know what temp ice melts at?
Besides, this wouldn't work for us when we're out for two or three weeks
and want to keep ice cream.

DSK


DSK April 5th 05 02:32 AM

I have an electric refrigerator on my Parker. Never used it.

Why not, doesn't it work?



Harry Krause wrote:
I'm pretty sure it works. It is brand new (well, it was new in 2003


Yep, should work then.

... but
it has never been used as a refrigerator. I store flat fishing tackle
boxes in ir).


Isn't that kind of expensive for aux stowage? But i bet it's easier to
keep clean ;)


... I don't have a separate generator on the Parker and am
reluctant to use battery power for anything except starting the engineor
running a radio when the engine is off.


Smart. You could always add a battery though... it makes me nervous to
even play the stereo softly unless there is a charged and isolated
dedicated start battery.


Have you considered a holding plate system? Take a look at
http://www.technauticsinc.com/


Thanks for the link. I'm taking notes.

Fair Skies
Doug King


Just Me April 5th 05 03:08 AM

Harry,
Have you put your Parker on the market yet? If so any ideas what you new
boat will be?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
I have an electric refrigerator on my Parker. Never used it.


Why not, doesn't it work?



Harry Krause wrote:

I'm pretty sure it works. It is brand new (well, it was new in 2003



Yep, should work then.

... but it has never been used as a refrigerator. I store flat fishing
tackle boxes in ir).



Isn't that kind of expensive for aux stowage? But i bet it's easier to
keep clean ;)



Good tackle is expensive, and lasts longer if kept in the dark!




... I don't have a separate generator on the Parker and am reluctant to
use battery power for anything except starting the engineor running a
radio when the engine is off.


Smart. You could always add a battery though... it makes me nervous to
even play the stereo softly unless there is a charged and isolated
dedicated start battery.


I've got multiple batteries, but, other than switches, have no real
battery management system on the boat. That means I have to remember to
flip switches. But, I'll tell you, the ice works fine for our short trips
on this boat.




Have you considered a holding plate system? Take a look at
http://www.technauticsinc.com/


Thanks for the link. I'm taking notes.

Fair Skies
Doug King






--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




K. Smith April 5th 05 09:21 AM

DSK wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

Refrigeration system for a small boat without a generator.



I should have said, this is for a 36' trawler with a genset and a decent
12V bank. I'm leaning most strongly towards 12V compressor, air cooled
condenser.

I have an electric refrigerator on my Parker. Never used it.



Why not, doesn't it work?

I have a great thick cooler I load with ice. Got a temp gauge hooked
up through it. Keeps fresh food at safe temps for four or five days.
No trouble.


Why do you need a thermometer? Don't you know what temp ice melts at?
Besides, this wouldn't work for us when we're out for two or three weeks
and want to keep ice cream.

DSK



Are you "that" stupid???? Really !!

He can't actually say anything of substance about the imaginary boat,
boating much less a fridge because he owns nothing.

This is just his usual lies, just as we see after no apparent usage he
pretends he will now go through the entire charade of asking for advise
on the next imaginary boat, the man is a lying idiot, however you're
just as stupid to even pretend you believe any of it.

Talk about simpletons, a thermometer in an ice box, that holds ice for
5 days in a run about???:-) then the lying idiot when confronted with
the obvious lies again & says the claimed "doctor" wife requests
it!!!:-) what a hoot!!! he even again confirms his wife stories are lies
along the way, unless she's suffered a severe blow to the head, in which
case as we well know; Krause would have unplugged her anyway:-)



K

The Krause lie of they day I hear you asking for??? OK it's not a
repeat; not till my new script starts appending them that is:-)

But I thought you should know something funny about this Krause lie
list, in the early days he went on & on & on about his Hatt 43 & yes
lots of people called him BS till he finally posted a pic of his Hatt 43.

Needless to say this lying grub will stop at nothing in his lame
attempts to be believed as a boater just as he did in the jetski NGs.

Oops so sorry rambling again:-) anyway the really funny bit??? ages
later someone finds the same pic on a Hatt web site!!! yes truly this
lying idiot lifted a pic of a Hatt 43 from a web site then posted it as
his own boat!!!:-)

But there's more!!! get his answer it's almost as funny as him
getting caught red handed, he claimed it was a "sister ship" to his!!!
so that's why he posted the pic as his own boat!!!


Here are some:




Hatteras 43' sportfish
Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop
Morgan 33
O'Day 30
Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22
Century Coronado
Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze.
Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering
Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes
Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers
with various
Evinrudes
Lighting class sailboat
Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat.
Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit)
Alcort Sunfish
Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders.
Guaranteed 60 mph. In the late 1950's.
Skimmar brand skiff
Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider)
Dyer Dhow
Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass
Penn Yan runabouts. Wood.
Old Town wood and canvas canoe
Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe





I own the following boats:


a 36' "lobster" style boat
a 19' center console fishing boat
an 11' inflatable dinghy
1/2 of a canoe


Those are the types of boats I currently own. I'm also in the market for
some interesting kind of lightweight flatbottomed skiff, similar to the
old Skimmar, for the "new" 51-year-old 10 hp outboard I recently bought.


One of the boats is kept on dry land within a half mile of Chesapeake
Bay. One is kept at a private covered boat dock in a little creek off
Chesapeake Bay. One is kept in the backyard of a friend who lives much
closer to the Shenandoah River than I do. And one is kept next to the
36-footer."


basskisser April 5th 05 01:01 PM


K. Smith wrote:

snip

Sorry, Karen, Tuuk is still ahead of you in the obsession with Harry
catagory, as well as in the number of commas used per each Harry
stalking.


basskisser April 5th 05 02:19 PM


DSK wrote:
Most Trouble free refrigeration?

I am assembling a refrigeration system and am interested in what

other
folks have & have not found troublesome.

Thanks in advance.

Doug King


My ice chest is pretty trouble free!


Don White April 5th 05 02:34 PM

Harry Krause wrote:


Smith, however, is way ahead in word count per psychotic screed.


Karen has a bit of an excuse...she's hanging upside down on the wrong
side of the world with all that blood rushing to her head.
Tuuk on the other hand.............scary!

[email protected] April 5th 05 04:39 PM

A few years ago, I pulled out the standard, undercounter Norcold in my
boat and replaced it with a unit that provides substantially more
interior volume within the same space. The new fridge is completely
silent, in the cabin areas, when running.

The gut of the fridge are down in the engine room. That allows the
refirgeration compartment to be deeper and taller in this unit than on
a Norcold....(Norcold puts gear both below and behind the box itself,
reducing the cubic footage available).

Downwside? The thing works too well. It took a while to actually
believe that one didn't need to turn the dial up to even half in order
to maintain proper temperature. The system could probably be used as a
freezer if turned up far enough- as it ices up pretty quickly and
things near the freezer compartment start developing an icy crust.

MIne is DC only. Why pay extra for AC/DC when the AC has to be
converted to DC to run one of these refrigerators anyway? When AC is
available to run the fridge, it's also available to replenish the
batteries.

My unit was built by Sea Freeze in Bellingham, WA.


DSK April 5th 05 05:04 PM

wrote:
A few years ago, I pulled out the standard, undercounter Norcold in my
boat and replaced it


We did a similar thing this winter, only we put in a drop-in 12V
refrigerator-only self contained unit. Even with the "guts" of the thing
contained in the box, we gained about 20% interior storage and that's
not broken up into tiny useless freezer (which, in the Norcold units,
isn't really much of a freezer). After hunting around considerably, I
found one that is very quiet, very efficient, and would fit in the same
space.



MIne is DC only. Why pay extra for AC/DC when the AC has to be
converted to DC to run one of these refrigerators anyway?


Because the 12V load will prevent your batteries from reaching full
charge, or being desaturated. As far as I'm concerned, when we're either
plugged into shore power or running the genset, I want all possible amps
going into the batteries.



My unit was built by Sea Freeze in Bellingham, WA.


What we're doing now is putting in a top-opening freezer under the
dinette settee. Convenient to the galley and far more cubic than
available in the under-counter unit.

I have emailed Sea Freeze to ask about their "conversion units" which,
along with the insulation and materials for the chest & lid, are all I
need to buy. Trying to decide whether to go air cooled or keel cooled.

Fair Skies
Doug King


HaKrause April 5th 05 09:43 PM

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:12:24 -0400, DSK wrote:

Most Trouble free refrigeration?

I am assembling a refrigeration system and am interested in what other
folks have & have not found troublesome.

Thanks in advance.

Doug King


I have one of those stainless Philcos with digital control and a built
in LCD television. It works very well, but is very expensive.


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