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JimH April 4th 05 08:35 PM

Geico Boat Insurance Company
 
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Your Boat Coverage Explained

Out on your boat, you leave your cares behind. You don't want to worry about
what would happen if your boat was involved in an accident. Boat insurance
protects you against accidents, vandalism, and insures you against
liability. That means smooth sailing!

What does boat insurance cover? Insurance needs differ depending on the type
of boat or watercraft you own. Your policy will explain in detail what is
covered and what is specifically excluded. But these coverages generally
apply:

Protection From Physical Damage, Perils, and Liability

Most policies cover physical damage to the hull, sails, machinery,
furniture, and most other equipment that is normally used on board. Most
perils are covered including vandalism, malicious mischief, and even damage
that results from latent defects of workmanship.

You are also insured against liability losses. You are covered for damage to
another boat or dock, and for bodily injury or death to another person as a
result of your negligent operation or ownership of the boat.

In the event that you, your guests or family are injured while on board, the
policy provides payment for incidental medical expenses. The coverage also
applies if someone is injured boarding or getting off your boat.

Under most policies, the boat trailer is covered against physical loss or
damage from any external cause.

The policy coverage provides compensation liability for injury to persons
employed by you who may work on your boat, but are not crew members.
Mechanics, carpenters, painters, and cleaners are included in this category.
To be covered under this policy, they cannot be employed by your boatyard,
and the federal Longshore and Harbor Workers' Compensation Act must apply to
them.

You may purchase optional coverages as well, such as protection against
damage caused by an uninsured boater, coverage for your personal property,
and coverage for your fishing equipment.


Please Note:
These are general policy descriptions to help you understand the different
types of coverages. They do not refer to any specific contract of insurance,
and they do not modify any definitions expressly stated in any contracts of
insurance. We encourage you to speak to your insurance representative and to
read your policy contract to fully understand your coverages.




We're here 24 hours a day,
7 days a week, 365 days a year.

Sales:
1-800-841-2964

Customer Service:
1-800-841-3005

a.. Insurance Terms
a.. © 2003-2005 GEICO
b.. | Terms of Use
c.. | States of Operation
d.. | Company Addresses










Stanley Barthfarkle April 4th 05 08:45 PM

Who is Jim H, and why is he spamming this newsgroup?



Just Me April 4th 05 08:47 PM

I have my insurance at Boat/US. The prices are very competitive, it
includes protection from liability from oil spills and tow insurance.

On the other hand, I have my Car and Home insurance with Geico and love
them.


"JimH" wrote in message
...
Your Boat Coverage Explained

Out on your boat, you leave your cares behind. You don't want to worry
about what would happen if your boat was involved in an accident. Boat
insurance protects you against accidents, vandalism, and insures you
against liability. That means smooth sailing!

What does boat insurance cover? Insurance needs differ depending on the
type of boat or watercraft you own. Your policy will explain in detail
what is covered and what is specifically excluded. But these coverages
generally apply:

Protection From Physical Damage, Perils, and Liability

Most policies cover physical damage to the hull, sails, machinery,
furniture, and most other equipment that is normally used on board. Most
perils are covered including vandalism, malicious mischief, and even
damage that results from latent defects of workmanship.

You are also insured against liability losses. You are covered for damage
to another boat or dock, and for bodily injury or death to another person
as a result of your negligent operation or ownership of the boat.

In the event that you, your guests or family are injured while on board,
the policy provides payment for incidental medical expenses. The coverage
also applies if someone is injured boarding or getting off your boat.

Under most policies, the boat trailer is covered against physical loss or
damage from any external cause.

The policy coverage provides compensation liability for injury to persons
employed by you who may work on your boat, but are not crew members.
Mechanics, carpenters, painters, and cleaners are included in this
category. To be covered under this policy, they cannot be employed by your
boatyard, and the federal Longshore and Harbor Workers' Compensation Act
must apply to them.

You may purchase optional coverages as well, such as protection against
damage caused by an uninsured boater, coverage for your personal property,
and coverage for your fishing equipment.


Please Note:
These are general policy descriptions to help you understand the different
types of coverages. They do not refer to any specific contract of
insurance, and they do not modify any definitions expressly stated in any
contracts of insurance. We encourage you to speak to your insurance
representative and to read your policy contract to fully understand your
coverages.




We're here 24 hours a day,
7 days a week, 365 days a year.

Sales:
1-800-841-2964

Customer Service:
1-800-841-3005

a.. Insurance Terms
a.. © 2003-2005 GEICO
b.. | Terms of Use
c.. | States of Operation
d.. | Company Addresses







Just Me April 4th 05 08:54 PM

Stanley,
That is JimH's little barb towards Chuck Gould. ; )




"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message
m...
Who is Jim H, and why is he spamming this newsgroup?




JimH April 4th 05 09:00 PM



"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message
m...
Who is Jim H, and why is he spamming this newsgroup?





Stanley, I missed your similar comments in the threads on Wheeler Yachts,
Mainship Trawler and Legend 680 Pilothouse. Could you direct me to them?

Thank you Stanley.



Stanley Barthfarkle April 4th 05 09:35 PM


Stanley, I missed your similar comments in the threads on Wheeler Yachts,
Mainship Trawler and Legend 680 Pilothouse. Could you direct me to them?


Why are you posting all this crap? If it's some sort of joke, I don't get
it.



NOYB April 4th 05 09:54 PM

I thought he was just trying to improve his on-topic:off-topic posting
ratio.



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
Stanley, I missed your similar comments in the threads on Wheeler Yachts,
Mainship Trawler and Legend 680 Pilothouse. Could you direct me to them?



Why are you posting all this crap? If it's some sort of joke, I don't get
it.



Here's what it is: JimH and the "Smith" fellow, who posts here under at
least a dozen different handles, are doing whatever they can to shove what
remains of tnis newsgroup down the drain. JimH has said as much. He's
****ed because Chuck Gould occasionally posts a boat review here, and he
considers that spam, so he retaliates by posting absolute spam.

That's all there is to it.

JimH, by the way, is not a boater.



--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




JimH April 4th 05 10:06 PM



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
Stanley, I missed your similar comments in the threads on Wheeler
Yachts,
Mainship Trawler and Legend 680 Pilothouse. Could you direct me to
them?


Why are you posting all this crap? If it's some sort of joke, I don't
get it.



Here's what it is: JimH and the "Smith" fellow, who posts here under at
least a dozen different handles, are doing whatever they can to shove
what remains of tnis newsgroup down the drain. JimH has said as much.


Actually I never said any such thing. Besides, you mananged to single
handedly ruin this NG long before I arrived.

Add to that your internet stalking and personal threats to folks here,
including to my wife, and we have one obnoxious person who calls himself
Harry Krause.

He's
****ed because Chuck Gould occasionally posts a boat review here, and he
considers that spam, so he retaliates by posting absolute spam.


Spam is spam. A boat review with the phone number and other details of the
manufacturer is the same as me posting boats for sale, ads on boats shoes or
a boat insurance ad. They are all boating related. Their intention is to
help sell the product.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck.

Quack Quack Krause.



That's all there is to it.

JimH, by the way, is not a boater.


I am indeed a boater, perhaps with more behind the helm time than you. I
just don't own a boat at present.

Besides, is boat ownership a requirment here? Could you point me to that
section in the NG Charter?




JimH April 4th 05 10:09 PM

Sorry NOYB but I had to reply to Krause through your post....I have the ass
killfiled.

And to Stanley...

Stanley, I missed your similar comments in the threads on Wheeler Yachts,
Mainship Trawler and Legend 680 Pilothouse. Could you direct me to them?

Still waiting sir.


"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...
I thought he was just trying to improve his on-topic:off-topic posting
ratio.



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
Stanley, I missed your similar comments in the threads on Wheeler
Yachts,
Mainship Trawler and Legend 680 Pilothouse. Could you direct me to
them?


Why are you posting all this crap? If it's some sort of joke, I don't
get it.



Here's what it is: JimH and the "Smith" fellow, who posts here under at
least a dozen different handles, are doing whatever they can to shove
what remains of tnis newsgroup down the drain. JimH has said as much.
He's ****ed because Chuck Gould occasionally posts a boat review here,
and he considers that spam, so he retaliates by posting absolute spam.

That's all there is to it.

JimH, by the way, is not a boater.



--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.






JimH April 4th 05 10:19 PM


"Just Me" wrote in message
...
Stanley,
That is JimH's little barb towards Chuck Gould. ; )



I did want to share it with the group. I received it my email box just the
other day. ;-)



Just Me April 4th 05 10:32 PM

I thought my responses to JimH's post were very appropriate and designed to
encourage on topic discussion.

Do you not have any thing to say that would contribute to the discussion of
bubble boats, boat insurance or boat shoes?

I know JimH was tweaking Gould, but whatever we can do to improve the signal
to noise ratio in rec.boats will improve it. You on the other hand seem to
prefer cut and paste political arguments. You have also said the only
reason you read and post anything in rec.boats is because it ****es off the
righties.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
Stanley, I missed your similar comments in the threads on Wheeler Yachts,
Mainship Trawler and Legend 680 Pilothouse. Could you direct me to them?



Why are you posting all this crap? If it's some sort of joke, I don't get
it.



Here's what it is: JimH and the "Smith" fellow, who posts here under at
least a dozen different handles, are doing whatever they can to shove what
remains of tnis newsgroup down the drain. JimH has said as much. He's
****ed because Chuck Gould occasionally posts a boat review here, and he
considers that spam, so he retaliates by posting absolute spam.

That's all there is to it.

JimH, by the way, is not a boater.



--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




JimH April 4th 05 10:56 PM

I see Krause remains obsessed with me.


"Just Me" wrote in message
...
I thought my responses to JimH's post were very appropriate and designed to
encourage on topic discussion.

Do you not have any thing to say that would contribute to the discussion
of bubble boats, boat insurance or boat shoes?

I know JimH was tweaking Gould, but whatever we can do to improve the
signal to noise ratio in rec.boats will improve it. You on the other hand
seem to prefer cut and paste political arguments. You have also said the
only reason you read and post anything in rec.boats is because it ****es
off the righties.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
Stanley, I missed your similar comments in the threads on Wheeler
Yachts,
Mainship Trawler and Legend 680 Pilothouse. Could you direct me to
them?


Why are you posting all this crap? If it's some sort of joke, I don't
get it.



Here's what it is: JimH and the "Smith" fellow, who posts here under at
least a dozen different handles, are doing whatever they can to shove
what remains of tnis newsgroup down the drain. JimH has said as much.
He's ****ed because Chuck Gould occasionally posts a boat review here,
and he considers that spam, so he retaliates by posting absolute spam.

That's all there is to it.

JimH, by the way, is not a boater.



--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.






Just Me April 4th 05 11:03 PM

Krause has made the statement many times that he only comes here is to cut
and paste off topic news articles, he has no desire to even discuss the off
topic articles, he sole purpose for being here is to **** of the right wing
trash that hang out in rec.boats. He has also made the statement many times
that he has no desire to participate in on topic discussions because he is
bored with all the same topics being discussed over and over again.

It seems funny that he thinks your On Topic cut and paste is going to
destroy the NG.



"JimH" wrote in message
...
I see Krause remains obsessed with me.


"Just Me" wrote in message
...
I thought my responses to JimH's post were very appropriate and designed
to encourage on topic discussion.

Do you not have any thing to say that would contribute to the discussion
of bubble boats, boat insurance or boat shoes?

I know JimH was tweaking Gould, but whatever we can do to improve the
signal to noise ratio in rec.boats will improve it. You on the other
hand seem to prefer cut and paste political arguments. You have also
said the only reason you read and post anything in rec.boats is because
it ****es off the righties.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
Stanley, I missed your similar comments in the threads on Wheeler
Yachts,
Mainship Trawler and Legend 680 Pilothouse. Could you direct me to
them?


Why are you posting all this crap? If it's some sort of joke, I don't
get it.


Here's what it is: JimH and the "Smith" fellow, who posts here under at
least a dozen different handles, are doing whatever they can to shove
what remains of tnis newsgroup down the drain. JimH has said as much.
He's ****ed because Chuck Gould occasionally posts a boat review here,
and he considers that spam, so he retaliates by posting absolute spam.

That's all there is to it.

JimH, by the way, is not a boater.



--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.








Just Me April 4th 05 11:35 PM

Harry,

Even though you have set up your posts so they are not archived by Google,
those who respond to your posts are archived, so I can still Google up many
copies of your comments.

Are you willing to bet $1,000 that you did not say everything I stated?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Just Me wrote:
Krause has made the statement many times that he only comes here is to
cut and paste off topic news articles, he has no desire to even discuss
the off topic articles, he sole purpose for being here is to **** of the
right wing trash that hang out in rec.boats.



Nice try, Sherlock, but that's absolute b.s. and you know it.



--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




[email protected] April 4th 05 11:42 PM

Looks like I've got somebody in a real dither!

How funny, and yet how truly sad.

Watch your blood pressure- don't blow a circuit on us. :-)


JimH April 4th 05 11:47 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...
Looks like I've got somebody in a real dither!

How funny, and yet how truly sad.

Watch your blood pressure- don't blow a circuit on us. :-)


If you find it funny causing another's blood pressure to rise then you are
indeed sadistic.

But sorry to burst your bubble Chuck....the blood pressure is A-OK. Just
having some fun with you by showing the hypocrisy.

Keep on spamming Chuck. I proved my point.

Have a nice evening.



Just Me April 4th 05 11:48 PM

Harry,

Excellent tap dancing. I always thought it was funny that you bothered to
"X-No-Archive: Yes" your posts, when all of them are archived anyway.

Most of your trolls will get a response and the person responding to you
archives all of your posts.

By the way, whose Identity did I steal? Identity theft is a crime and can
be prosecuted. If you think I have committed Identity theft, I would report
it to the FBI.

You can easy report my crime at http://www.fbi.gov/


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Just Me wrote:
Harry,

Even though you have set up your posts so they are not archived by
Google, those who respond to your posts are archived, so I can still
Google up many copies of your comments.

Are you willing to bet $1,000 that you did not say everything I stated?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Just Me wrote:

Krause has made the statement many times that he only comes here is to
cut and paste off topic news articles, he has no desire to even discuss
the off topic articles, he sole purpose for being here is to **** of
the right wing trash that hang out in rec.boats.


Nice try, Sherlock, but that's absolute b.s. and you know it.



I have NEVER said I only come here to "cut and paste..., or that I have no
desire to disuss,,, or that my sole purpose here is to...

You of course can google up whatever you want and change it to make it say
whatever you want. I would expect no less from a trouble-making identity
thief like you.


--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




Just Me April 5th 05 12:00 AM

No, tell me, or even more important tell the FBI. Identity Theft is a
crime.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Just Me wrote:
Harry,

Excellent tap dancing. I always thought it was funny that you bothered
to "X-No-Archive: Yes" your posts, when all of them are archived anyway.

Most of your trolls will get a response and the person responding to you
archives all of your posts.

By the way, whose Identity did I steal? Identity theft is a crime and
can be prosecuted. If you think I have committed Identity theft, I would
report it to the FBI.

A. What you think is of no importance to me. And I am aware of the
archiving that takes place. I actually started doing it when I began
messing around with Mozilla "js" files and someone said, "hey, try this
one." So I did. Took me a while to figure out how to write the scripts,
but I did it. Now, I keep it invoked because it ****es off so many
right-wing trashmeisters. Like you. You righties are the only ones who
bring it up. Therefore, it is worth doing.

B. You know damned well whose IDs you've been using.






--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




Just Me April 5th 05 12:05 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Just Me wrote:
Harry,

Excellent tap dancing. I always thought it was funny that you bothered
to "X-No-Archive: Yes" your posts, when all of them are archived
anyway.

Most of your trolls will get a response and the person responding to
you archives all of your posts.

By the way, whose Identity did I steal? Identity theft is a crime and
can be prosecuted. If you think I have committed Identity theft, I
would report it to the FBI.

A. What you think is of no importance to me. And I am aware of the
archiving that takes place. I actually started doing it when I began
messing around with Mozilla "js" files and someone said, "hey, try this
one." So I did. Took me a while to figure out how to write the scripts,
but I did it. Now, I keep it invoked because it ****es off so many
right-wing trashmeisters. Like you. You righties are the only ones who
bring it up. Therefore, it is worth doing.


I don't care if you use the use the "X-No-Archive: Yes", I just bring it up
because I know it ****es you off. I can find any of your posts, including
where you said your purpose of coming to rec.boats is to **** off the
right-wing trashmeisters. Anyone who looks at your posting history would
see that you really meant it.

Are you ashamed at what you have done to destroy a valuable newsgroup?




[email protected] April 5th 05 12:14 AM

Keep on spamming Chuck. I proved my point.


Have a nice evening.


*************

I think JohnH put it rather succinctly, yesterday. He commented that
you had "expressed your point, but not proved it."

Of all the comments made so far, several people appreciate my personal
observations and pass-throughs of legitimate industry news while you
and one other person have espressed displeasure. Knowing full well that
the only thing I could do to please either you or your close ally in
this matter would be to die, (preferably slowly and horribly), I really
don't give a rat's anus what you think.

Lack of giving a rat's anus doesn't stop me from being amused that you
take the whole thing so far out of perspective that you have wasted
much of a day with your campaign.

Enough coffee break. Back to work for me. Thanks for the amusing
interlude, really.


Just Me April 5th 05 12:35 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I don't care if you pick your nose and flip boogers, and I don't care what
you can or cannot find. As my pappy used to say to the obnoxious, GPUAR.


Harry how did you like the picture of the Yacht Gould did the article on.

One hell of a great boat wasn't it.

I loved the size of the galley on this boat.
http://www.adventureyachts.com/adven...venture_5.html





John H April 5th 05 12:38 AM

On 4 Apr 2005 16:14:48 -0700, wrote:

Keep on spamming Chuck. I proved my point.


Have a nice evening.


*************

I think JohnH put it rather succinctly, yesterday. He commented that
you had "expressed your point, but not proved it."

Of all the comments made so far, several people appreciate my personal
observations and pass-throughs of legitimate industry news while you
and one other person have espressed displeasure. Knowing full well that
the only thing I could do to please either you or your close ally in
this matter would be to die, (preferably slowly and horribly), I really
don't give a rat's anus what you think.

Lack of giving a rat's anus doesn't stop me from being amused that you
take the whole thing so far out of perspective that you have wasted
much of a day with your campaign.

Enough coffee break. Back to work for me. Thanks for the amusing
interlude, really.


Any idea what the Mainship 34 is selling for? That's a sweet boat.

http://www.mainship.com/models/34trawler/34-2005.html
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JimH April 5th 05 12:40 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...

If you find it funny causing another's blood pressure to rise then you are
indeed sadistic.

But sorry to burst your bubble Chuck....the blood pressure is A-OK. Just
having some fun with you by showing the hypocrisy.

Keep on spamming Chuck. I proved my point.


Have a nice evening.


*************

I think JohnH put it rather succinctly, yesterday. He commented that
you had "expressed your point, but not proved it."

Of all the comments made so far, several people appreciate my personal
observations and pass-throughs of legitimate industry news while you
and one other person have espressed displeasure. Knowing full well that
the only thing I could do to please either you or your close ally in
this matter would be to die, (preferably slowly and horribly), I really
don't give a rat's anus what you think.

Lack of giving a rat's anus doesn't stop me from being amused that you
take the whole thing so far out of perspective that you have wasted
much of a day with your campaign.

Enough coffee break. Back to work for me. Thanks for the amusing
interlude, really.


I could care less about your spam. My posts were only to show that they
were no different than yours.

Now take the phone numbers and email addresses out, post some comments about
the negative side of the boats (all have some problem or another) and it may
show that you are not doing this for some sort of payola.

Spam is spam Chuck. You apparently are so caught up in it that you cannot
see it.

Have a nice evening.

BTW: You are equally amusing. ;-)



Just Me April 5th 05 01:34 AM

JimH,
Can you imagine anyone, paying anything, to anyone, to post an ad in this
dysfunctional newsgroup?

There are very few things in life I am sure of, but I am sure Chuck is not
getting payola or any perks to cut and paste one of his articles in
rec.boats.




"JimH" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

If you find it funny causing another's blood pressure to rise then you
are
indeed sadistic.

But sorry to burst your bubble Chuck....the blood pressure is A-OK. Just
having some fun with you by showing the hypocrisy.

Keep on spamming Chuck. I proved my point.


Have a nice evening.


*************

I think JohnH put it rather succinctly, yesterday. He commented that
you had "expressed your point, but not proved it."

Of all the comments made so far, several people appreciate my personal
observations and pass-throughs of legitimate industry news while you
and one other person have espressed displeasure. Knowing full well that
the only thing I could do to please either you or your close ally in
this matter would be to die, (preferably slowly and horribly), I really
don't give a rat's anus what you think.

Lack of giving a rat's anus doesn't stop me from being amused that you
take the whole thing so far out of perspective that you have wasted
much of a day with your campaign.

Enough coffee break. Back to work for me. Thanks for the amusing
interlude, really.


I could care less about your spam. My posts were only to show that they
were no different than yours.

Now take the phone numbers and email addresses out, post some comments
about the negative side of the boats (all have some problem or another)
and it may show that you are not doing this for some sort of payola.

Spam is spam Chuck. You apparently are so caught up in it that you cannot
see it.

Have a nice evening.

BTW: You are equally amusing. ;-)




Just Me April 5th 05 01:35 AM

Yeah, but they definitely made the interior so the wives will love it.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Just Me wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I don't care if you pick your nose and flip boogers, and I don't care
what you can or cannot find. As my pappy used to say to the obnoxious,
GPUAR.



Harry how did you like the picture of the Yacht Gould did the article on.

One hell of a great boat wasn't it.

I loved the size of the galley on this boat.
http://www.adventureyachts.com/adven...venture_5.html





Not my taste. I don't like boats that look like wedding cakes.


--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.




K. Smith April 5th 05 12:50 PM

wrote:
Keep on spamming Chuck. I proved my point.


Have a nice evening.


*************

I think JohnH put it rather succinctly, yesterday. He commented that
you had "expressed your point, but not proved it."

Of all the comments made so far, several people appreciate my personal
observations and pass-throughs of legitimate industry news while you
and one other person have espressed displeasure. Knowing full well that
the only thing I could do to please either you or your close ally in
this matter would be to die, (preferably slowly and horribly), I really
don't give a rat's anus what you think.


Gee now don't go & over react Gould, it's sad that you need to do this
low life NG spamming just to scratch a meager living, I mean the use
cars didn't work out, the used boat broker likewise so now you're
reduced to being a dock rat looking to scuttle over other people's boats
& then give the sales pitch, sad really.

However credit where credit is due, so ......... I wish to take full
credit for stopping our resident deceptive spammer from posting spam
about foreign boats of dubious quality with endless references to the
"quality" "he" found, they have to say that of course because everyone
knows the history of Taiwanese boats, why anyone with enough hooch to
buy a 68ftr would buy such a thing beggers belief, but hey Gould & his
Tonto Krause begger belief with every post.

Being a deceptive spammer our BS'ter Gould never mentions anything he
knows might be important & detrimental to a sale so no mention of the
foreign boat's Taiwan history.

So full kudos to me I say:-); at least I shamed Gould into now NG
spamming locally made boats:-) Funny thing is he has no trouble at all
telling you over & over & over they're not Taiwanese:-) Ah the socialist
mind no point wondering how it works for it doesn't, it's just an eating
reflex & Gould has associated deception with eating for so long he has
no clue of anything else. It's particularly funny given his rabbiting on
endlessly about the evils of Chinese toasters:-) What a characterless
spamming schmuck you are Gould:-)

Lack of giving a rat's anus doesn't stop me from being amused that you
take the whole thing so far out of perspective that you have wasted
much of a day with your campaign.

Enough coffee break. Back to work for me. Thanks for the amusing
interlude, rea


K

The Krause lie of they day I hear you asking for??? OK it's not a
repeat; not till my new script starts appending them that is:-)

But I thought you should know something funny about this Krause lie
list, in the early days he went on & on & on about his Hatt 43 & yes
lots of people called him BS till he finally posted a pic of his Hatt 43.

Needless to say this lying grub will stop at nothing in his lame
attempts to be believed as a boater just as he did in the jetski NGs.

Oops so sorry rambling again:-) anyway the really funny bit??? ages
later someone finds the same pic on a Hatt web site!!! yes truly this
lying idiot lifted a pic of a Hatt 43 from a web site then posted it as
his own boat!!!:-)

But there's more!!! get his answer it's almost as funny as him
getting caught red handed, he claimed it was a "sister ship" to his!!!
so that's why he posted the pic as his own boat!!!


Here are some:




Hatteras 43' sportfish
Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop
Morgan 33
O'Day 30
Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22
Century Coronado
Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze.
Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering
Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes
Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers
with various
Evinrudes
Lighting class sailboat
Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat.
Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit)
Alcort Sunfish
Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders.
Guaranteed 60 mph. In the late 1950's.
Skimmar brand skiff
Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider)
Dyer Dhow
Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass
Penn Yan runabouts. Wood.
Old Town wood and canvas canoe
Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe





I own the following boats:


a 36' "lobster" style boat
a 19' center console fishing boat
an 11' inflatable dinghy
1/2 of a canoe


Those are the types of boats I currently own. I'm also in the market for
some interesting kind of lightweight flatbottomed skiff, similar to the
old Skimmar, for the "new" 51-year-old 10 hp outboard I recently bought.


One of the boats is kept on dry land within a half mile of Chesapeake
Bay. One is kept at a private covered boat dock in a little creek off
Chesapeake Bay. One is kept in the backyard of a friend who lives much
closer to the Shenandoah River than I do. And one is kept next to the
36-footer."


[email protected] April 5th 05 04:50 PM

Any idea what the Mainship 34 is selling for? That's a sweet boat.

***************

I didn't research the price of the 34, as we were concentrating on the
40. Based on a little snooping in Yachtworld and noting the pricing of
a few new, leftover, 2004 models I would speculate that a 34 should be
available, adequately equipped and on the east coast, for between
$250-300k.


[email protected] April 5th 05 05:11 PM

However credit where credit is due, so ......... I wish to take full
credit for stopping our resident deceptive spammer from posting spam
about foreign boats of dubious quality with endless references to the
"quality" "he" found, they have to say that of course because everyone
knows the history of Taiwanese boats, why anyone with enough hooch to
buy a 68ftr would buy such a thing beggers belief, but hey Gould & his
Tonto Krause begger belief with every post.

**************************

You have now proven that you don't know squat about the Taiwan boat
building industry.

I *own* a boat built in Taiwan.

A probably majority of larger boats sold today are built in Asia,
although some builders have left Tawain for cheaper labor in other
countries. Some builders, such as Riviera, (a very good boat, imo) are
even taking advantage of the relatively cheap labor and weak currency
in Australia. Do the Aussies generally resent the Taiwan builders as
competitors?

It is very possible to build a quality boat in Taiwan, just as it is
possible to find both reasonable, intellectual, emotionally healthy
people as well as (let's just say) "others"
in Australia. In fact, the general run of Taiwanese boats has been
pretty good over the years. We have hundreds of examples of 30-year-old
Taiwan trawlers that have been sitting out in the Washington rain since
new that are still in very decent shape for their age when compared to
boats built anywhere else.

The Mainship line is notable because it is an American-built product in
a category (trawler) that is dominated by Asian imports.

Your comment about Taiwan boats is particularly funny when one realizes
that the majority of folks spouting, "Them folks in Taiwan don't know
how to build a boat!" are probably Union workers, employed at
non-Taiwanese manufacturers. So I have been wrong about you on this
point- you are willing to side with the unions and the manufacturers
providing they are GD'ing somebody else you dislike even more.


[email protected] April 5th 05 06:32 PM

Thank you, kinmasabeh.

Chuck, you're a bright guy. Why, then, do you even bother to respond to

the psychotic Ms. Smith? At best, she is worth a throwaway line. At
best.

*********

I'll discuss almost anything with almost anybody. A few extreme dummies
prove to be total wastes of time, but not Smith. She obviously is
capable of understanding my comments, as they do and should upset
somebody viewing the world through her extremely "unique" perspective.


John H April 5th 05 07:16 PM

On 5 Apr 2005 08:50:58 -0700, wrote:

Any idea what the Mainship 34 is selling for? That's a sweet boat.

***************

I didn't research the price of the 34, as we were concentrating on the
40. Based on a little snooping in Yachtworld and noting the pricing of
a few new, leftover, 2004 models I would speculate that a 34 should be
available, adequately equipped and on the east coast, for between
$250-300k.


Thanks.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Calif Bill April 5th 05 07:27 PM

After dealing with Geico insurance years ago, I would never have them as my
carrier. The other person carried Geico. And he ran into me while I was
stopped makeing a left turn. 100% his fault.



It's Only Me April 5th 05 08:05 PM

Bill,
I had someone hit me from the rear. Geico was my insurance company, they
told me to have it repaired and they would recoup the money from the other
guys insurance. They other guy had $25,000 insurance and he hit 3 cars. My
guess is the other guy said it was your fault, like anyone would ever lie.



"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
After dealing with Geico insurance years ago, I would never have them as
my
carrier. The other person carried Geico. And he ran into me while I was
stopped makeing a left turn. 100% his fault.





HaKrause April 5th 05 09:47 PM

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:35:34 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

Your Boat Coverage Explained

Out on your boat, you leave your cares behind. You don't want to worry about
what would happen if your boat was involved in an accident. Boat insurance
protects you against accidents, vandalism, and insures you against
liability. That means smooth sailing!


So true, however, because of my great wealth, I am self insured.
--
Bush and the NeoConvicts who control him
are destroying the once-great United States.

Calif Bill April 6th 05 04:06 AM

This was even after the court ruled he should have been charged with
reckless driving instead of assured distance violation (following to close).
Funny thing, is he originally told the cop I pulled out in front of him. He
then changed the story to I did not signal after he found out he hit me in
the rear end, and not the front.
Bill

"It's Only Me" wrote in message
...
Bill,
I had someone hit me from the rear. Geico was my insurance company, they
told me to have it repaired and they would recoup the money from the other
guys insurance. They other guy had $25,000 insurance and he hit 3 cars.

My
guess is the other guy said it was your fault, like anyone would ever lie.



"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
After dealing with Geico insurance years ago, I would never have them as
my
carrier. The other person carried Geico. And he ran into me while I

was
stopped makeing a left turn. 100% his fault.







K. Smith April 6th 05 11:56 AM

wrote:
However credit where credit is due, so ......... I wish to take full
credit for stopping our resident deceptive spammer from posting spam
about foreign boats of dubious quality with endless references to the
"quality" "he" found, they have to say that of course because everyone
knows the history of Taiwanese boats, why anyone with enough hooch to
buy a 68ftr would buy such a thing beggers belief, but hey Gould & his
Tonto Krause begger belief with every post.

**************************

You have now proven that you don't know squat about the Taiwan boat
building industry.

I *own* a boat built in Taiwan.


Of course you do Gould yet you endless berate people of the evils of
buying Chinese toasters:-) You're just another socialist hypocrite?? yes???


A probably majority of larger boats sold today are built in Asia,
although some builders have left Tawain for cheaper labor in other
countries. Some builders, such as Riviera, (a very good boat, imo) are
even taking advantage of the relatively cheap labor and weak currency
in Australia. Do the Aussies generally resent the Taiwan builders as
competitors?


Riviera was in fact an Aus boat to start with we called them Mariners.
They're reasonable middle quality certainly better than the risks
attached to Taiwan.


It is very possible to build a quality boat in Taiwan, just as it is
possible to find both reasonable, intellectual, emotionally healthy
people as well as (let's just say) "others"
in Australia. In fact, the general run of Taiwanese boats has been
pretty good over the years. We have hundreds of examples of 30-year-old
Taiwan trawlers that have been sitting out in the Washington rain since
new that are still in very decent shape for their age when compared to
boats built anywhere else.


You clearly were still selling used cars then because I can recount
endless horror stories of Taiwanese & Hong Kong boats of that period.
It's "possible" to build a good boat anywhere, but the QA is just not
there. As for you overlooking the important fact that the 68ftr you were
attempting to spam us with was a Taiwanese boat confirms you know
exactly what you're doing as always with your deceptions, this is just
more of the same.


The Mainship line is notable because it is an American-built product in
a category (trawler) that is dominated by Asian imports.


I have no argument but equally how many times did you mention Mainship
is US built?? What percentage of the spam was devoted to repeating the
US made mantra over & over the endless virtues of a locally built boat??
yet not a single solitary word did you print about the origin when
spamming a 68 ftr from Taiwan, why???? Well it's obvious you're well
aware that Taiwanese boats are for those that want to look good at the
docks but know 2/5 of 3/8 of bugger all about boats & as proof I offer
up you.


Your comment about Taiwan boats is particularly funny when one realizes
that the majority of folks spouting, "Them folks in Taiwan don't know
how to build a boat!" are probably Union workers, employed at
non-Taiwanese manufacturers. So I have been wrong about you on this
point- you are willing to side with the unions and the manufacturers
providing they are GD'ing somebody else you dislike even more.


I don't care who builds what or where, I do care when people like you
deceive people with lies of omission as you did yet again here.

As the amounts of materials used in boat hulls has reduced over the
years it's become even more critical that proper QA is observed & this
is reflected in the used prices of various boats from all manner of
origins who have a reputation for having had some spectacular lapses of QA.

Sure someone from the white shoe brigade will always buy almost any
boat but......... there are only so many of you out there Gould & once
you bought your cheap boat then the price plummets as the number of
chumps gets progressively thinner on the ground.


K

& the Krause lie of the day is........

from what we call the "father" series, this is a sad collection of lies
about the mythical father, much the same as immature school kids make
up. The sad part is that a man in his 50s would be so ashamed of his
father's real achievements that he besmirches his memory with such
infantile lies.


My father, who died in the 1970s, was a fairly well known boating

sportsman in
the New England-New York area. He was a boat dealer and marina

operator. For
grins, he raced hydroplanes and utility outboards in the late 40's

and early
50's, and won the Albany to New York race twice and a number of other

races.
For many years, he always had the *fastest* boat on Long Island

Sound. I don't
know whether that was true, but I don't recall anyone with a faster

boat, and
he drove all over looking for them. The boat, which changed from year

to year,
was always called "Bob's Hope." Later, he drove a twin 50-hp Evinrude

powered
Swedish boat across the North Atlantic in winter as a publicity stunt

for a
line of Swedish boats he was distributing in New England. Came over

the lee of
a tanker. He owned a *lot* of boats, including a PT boat for a while

and a
DUCK.
I don't know that I have more experience with boats than anyone in

here. I've
been boating since I was about 7 or so, and that was 50 years ago.

I've owned
a *lot* of different kinds of boats.
What *you* believe is your business. Frankly, I don't give a damn.



Also of course, note the "in winter":-)

My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in
a 22'
boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a
"fireboat" welcome in NYC.



N.L. Eckert April 6th 05 02:42 PM

So much for Geico Insurance.....


http://community.webtv.net/nl3ecke/Geico


JimH April 6th 05 03:01 PM


"N.L. Eckert" wrote in message
...
So much for Geico Insurance.....


http://community.webtv.net/nl3ecke/Geico


LOL!!!!!!




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