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Entirely true, and they both cause similar damage. We are very familure with
galvanic corrosion in the brine waters of the St. Johns. You can actually measure the electrical production with a sensitive multimeter. Electrolysis is a symptom of galvanic corrosion. It degrades the anode metal. The anode installation and wire bonding fix will take care of both, keeping your boat pretty. An interesting experiment. in a plastic bucket, make some salty water. place a piece of aluminum foil on one side of the bucket. (top out of water.) Place a piece of stainless steel on the other side.(top out of water.) Set a multimeter to its most sensitive (millivolts) setting and dip one probe in the center of the bucket. Touch the other probe to the stainless. record results. move Aluminum closer to stainless and repeat measurements. record results. attach a piece of immersed copper wire to aluminum. Allow to stand for 1 day. Observe stainless steel. Next discard salt soulution and rinse container. place aluminum foil in bottom of bucket. Mix HOT water with 2 tablespoons of baking soda. place badly tarnished sterling silver spoon (or other item) so it does not contact the foil, and measure millivolts from item to water. record results next make contact with the foil while observing meter. It should spike sharply and the tarnish jump from the silver to the foil. -- Capt. Frank __c \ _ | \_ __\_| oooo \_____ ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~ www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks "Joe Blizzard" wrote in message ... "Capt Frank Hopkins" wrote Electrolysis, otherwise known as galvanic corrosion Begging leave to differ, Capt Frank, but they're two different things. What you're describing is galvanic action caused when dissimilar metals immersed in an electrolyte decide to act like a battery and generate electric current all by themselves. Electrolysis happens when an external source of electrical current, like your starting battery or shore power supply, generates electrical current through the water. |
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My outboard has an anode built into the lower unit and it looks fine, is this
enough or should I add one to be safe? |
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You are ok with an anode on the motor, but be sure to add at least 1 to the
hull. 2 would be better. Make sure they are the correct type for freshwater. Since you keep the boat on a trailer, and use it only in freshwater, I don't think either electrolysis or galvanic corrosion will be a major factor in your boat's lifespan. A couple of good coats of wax each season will be more benefit. I would electrically bond everything, especially energy using devices' (lights, radios, fishfinders, ect.) mountings with a separate copper "ground" wire terminating at the (-) pole of the battery(s). This will give your devices their best performance and eliminate hot spots in the hull. Replace freshwater anodes every 24 - 36 months even if they "look ok". -- Capt. Frank __c \ _ | \_ __\_| oooo \_____ ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~ www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks "CCred68046" wrote in message ... My outboard has an anode built into the lower unit and it looks fine, is this enough or should I add one to be safe? |
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Thanks Capt Frank...
This is an 18' all welded boat, cant wax it, it has a rough finish kind of paint on it. Everything is grounded but I could add a few hull anodes to be safe. How do hull anodes mount? And where do youI put them for the best protection? |
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If its the type of paint I think it is, anodes may be unnecessary on the hull. I would have to see a picture. -- Capt. Frank __c \ _ | \_ __\_| oooo \_____ ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~ www.home.earthlink.net/~aartworks "CCred68046" wrote in message ... Thanks Capt Frank... This is an 18' all welded boat, cant wax it, it has a rough finish kind of paint on it. Everything is grounded but I could add a few hull anodes to be safe. How do hull anodes mount? And where do youI put them for the best protection? |
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Its like the paint they use on a camo duck boat only one color. Not glossy.
Heavy duty boat, thick aluminum. |
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"CCred68046" wrote in message ... Thanks Capt Frank... This is an 18' all welded boat, cant wax it, it has a rough finish kind of paint on it. Everything is grounded but I could add a few hull anodes to be safe. How do hull anodes mount? And where do youI put them for the best protection? I have a heavy aluminum boat also. There is an extension of the bottom at the transom. About 1.5" Allows some tuning of the trim via bending. Mine has a zinc screwed to the boat on each side on the lip. I can send you an email pic if you want. Bill |
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Mine
has a zinc screwed to the boat on each side on the lip. I can send you an email pic if you want. OK thats cool, I think I know what you mean but mine does not have anthing like that and I avoid putting holes in it. |
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"CCred68046" wrote in message ... I was reading a website from a manufacturer of all welded aluminum boats. There is a warning on the site that says: "DO NOT GROUND YOUR ELECTRICAL WIRING DIRECTLY TO YOUR BOAT. The key word here is "directly". What they are saying is that you should NOT use the hull of the boat for carrying current (remember that this is about aluminum boats). On a car, it is standard practice to use the frame of the car as the return lead to the battery. Thus, the wiring harness carries only the positive side. On a fiberglass boat you have no choice but to run "ground" wires to everything. On an aluminum boat, you might consider using the hull of the boat as a conductor, but it could lead to problems. To start with, aluminum is not that great of a conductor. Second, every connection is likely to have a copper to aluminum bond, which puts to dissimilar metals in contact. Two dissimilar metals plus electrical current can do bad things. Third, every joint in the hull could suffer from electrolysis. Note that this is a separate discussion from the electrolysis to the water problem. There will be those that argue that the hull should be completely isolated from any electrical source, but that is not an easy thing to accomplish. Rod McInnis |
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