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Terri Schiavo has died
"HaKrause" wrote in message ... Rest in peace, at last. It's sad that it took the suffering of a human being to bring this issue to the forefront. But this is an issue that should not die with Terri. I strongly believe that in the absence of a living will, and when a spouse has moved on with his or her life (new girlfriend, etc), the parents ought to be given guardianship if they request it. Afterall, they brought her into the world...and they have been given the decision as to when she left it. Why didn't Michael Schiavo divorce his wife and sever his ties to her? Perhaps he wanted the rights to the movie deal? |
The poor woman died when her brain was deprived of blood and oxygen, 15
years ago. Now her animated corpse has followed. The only positive thing to emerge from this macabre tragedy is that the interest in living wills and appointing attorneys-in-fact to make medical decisions when incapacitated has never been higher. Terri Schiavo accomplished more good for society in general after she was brain dead than many people will ever do while living. |
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "HaKrause" wrote in message ... Rest in peace, at last. It's sad that it took the suffering of a human being to bring this issue to the forefront. But this is an issue that should not die with Terri. I strongly believe that in the absence of a living will, and when a spouse has moved on with his or her life (new girlfriend, etc), the parents ought to be given guardianship if they request it. Afterall, they brought her into the world...and they have been given the decision as to when she left it. Why didn't Michael Schiavo divorce his wife and sever his ties to her? Perhaps he wanted the rights to the movie deal? One of the issues I saw was that of the settlement that passed down, he received 300k, and she got 700k that was administered by the court for her ongoing care. When she died, the remainder would be inherited by him..............of course, this many years later, there is not that much left. What sort of person would not allow the parents in the room as she was dying? ....as has been reported........makes you wonder. |
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wrote in message oups.com... The poor woman died when her brain was deprived of blood and oxygen, 15 years ago. Now her animated corpse has followed. The only positive thing to emerge from this macabre tragedy is that the interest in living wills and appointing attorneys-in-fact to make medical decisions when incapacitated has never been higher. Terri Schiavo accomplished more good for society in general after she was brain dead than many people will ever do while living. And this has what to do with boating? That's right...nothing... *ploink* -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:43:35 -0500, "P.Fritz"
wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "HaKrause" wrote in message ... Rest in peace, at last. It's sad that it took the suffering of a human being to bring this issue to the forefront. But this is an issue that should not die with Terri. I strongly believe that in the absence of a living will, and when a spouse has moved on with his or her life (new girlfriend, etc), the parents ought to be given guardianship if they request it. Afterall, they brought her into the world...and they have been given the decision as to when she left it. Why didn't Michael Schiavo divorce his wife and sever his ties to her? Perhaps he wanted the rights to the movie deal? One of the issues I saw was that of the settlement that passed down, he received 300k, and she got 700k that was administered by the court for her ongoing care. When she died, the remainder would be inherited by him..............of course, this many years later, there is not that much left. What sort of person would not allow the parents in the room as she was dying? ....as has been reported........makes you wonder. According to what I heard, he asked the parents to leave about ten minutes before she died. Perhaps he just wanted to be alone with her, without the ill will of the parents permeating the room. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... It's sad that it took the suffering of a human being to bring this issue to the forefront. But this is an issue that should not die with Terri. I completely agree. Well put, too. I strongly believe that in the absence of a living will, and when a spouse has moved on with his or her life (new girlfriend, etc), the parents ought to be given guardianship if they request it. I disagree. Terri married Michael and by doing so gave him the rights of guardianship. If she wanted to marry him but didn't trust his judgement on medical issues, she could have taken the necessary legal steps (living will and/or health proxy). Since she didn't take these steps, the best, strongest indication we have is that she wanted Michael to have those rights. We certainly don't know that for sure, but it's the best and most recent indication anyone has. And there are huge problems with your suggestion of giving guardianship to the parents if they request it. At what point does the former husband loose his rights? Is it after 1 year? 5 years? If he is living with someone? If he has a steady girlfriend? If he dates? If he visits his wife less than every day? If he never visits? Also consider a situation like this: Someone dislikes their parents. They marry and by doing so give their health rights to their spouse. They get into an accident and are in a vegitative state. The parents request guardianship rights (after whatever criteria NOYB sets has been met). Should the partents get the rights? ~ It doesn't appear to be the case with Terri, but doing this could easly end up giving rights to people that are the *last* people the person would want making those decisions. There are plenty of people out there that hate their partents, that love their parents but disagree compleately with their religiouis & political views, or that just don't think they make the best medical decisions. ~ Yes, these people should make a living-will and/or health proxy. But if they don't, where do we find the right to give their guardianship to someone they took it away from ?? Why didn't Michael Schiavo divorce his wife and sever his ties to her? Perhaps he wanted the rights to the movie deal? Perhaps. But perhaps he loved her very much. Perhaps he had some talks with Teri about what she would ever want if she were in that condition. Perhaps he didn't divorce her because he still loves her. Perhaps he wanted to do everything he could to be sure her wishes were carried out. The evidence of the case leans more toward my "perhaps" than to yours. gary |
*ploink*
************* You need to see a vet about that deformed tongue. There is no "pl" sound in "oink". |
"John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:43:35 -0500, "P.Fritz" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "HaKrause" wrote in message ... Rest in peace, at last. It's sad that it took the suffering of a human being to bring this issue to the forefront. But this is an issue that should not die with Terri. I strongly believe that in the absence of a living will, and when a spouse has moved on with his or her life (new girlfriend, etc), the parents ought to be given guardianship if they request it. Afterall, they brought her into the world...and they have been given the decision as to when she left it. Why didn't Michael Schiavo divorce his wife and sever his ties to her? Perhaps he wanted the rights to the movie deal? One of the issues I saw was that of the settlement that passed down, he received 300k, and she got 700k that was administered by the court for her ongoing care. When she died, the remainder would be inherited by him..............of course, this many years later, there is not that much left. What sort of person would not allow the parents in the room as she was dying? ....as has been reported........makes you wonder. According to what I heard, he asked the parents to leave about ten minutes before she died. Perhaps he just wanted to be alone with her, without the ill will of the parents permeating the room. ....and without witnesses as he placed a pillow over her face? |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:22:59 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:43:35 -0500, "P.Fritz" wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... "HaKrause" wrote in message ... Rest in peace, at last. It's sad that it took the suffering of a human being to bring this issue to the forefront. But this is an issue that should not die with Terri. I strongly believe that in the absence of a living will, and when a spouse has moved on with his or her life (new girlfriend, etc), the parents ought to be given guardianship if they request it. Afterall, they brought her into the world...and they have been given the decision as to when she left it. Why didn't Michael Schiavo divorce his wife and sever his ties to her? Perhaps he wanted the rights to the movie deal? One of the issues I saw was that of the settlement that passed down, he received 300k, and she got 700k that was administered by the court for her ongoing care. When she died, the remainder would be inherited by him..............of course, this many years later, there is not that much left. What sort of person would not allow the parents in the room as she was dying? ....as has been reported........makes you wonder. According to what I heard, he asked the parents to leave about ten minutes before she died. Perhaps he just wanted to be alone with her, without the ill will of the parents permeating the room. ...and without witnesses as he placed a pillow over her face? Most probably an attendant from the hospice was there. I doubt if a pillow was necessary. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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