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John H wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:09:18 -0500, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On 30 Mar 2005 05:47:42 -0800, wrote: P.Fritz wrote: "N S Sherlock" no****sherlock.com wrote in message ... Your response sounds very similar to my kids when they yell "BUT DAD HE STARTED IT FIRST". Asslicker is almost to easy to hook......most everybody here play's catch and release with him. Hey, Fritz, tells us more about how their aren't any tourists in Guantanamo!!!! Oh, and tell us again how it's correct to call Labatt Blue "Labatt's Blue", because it was called that 32 years ago!!!!! Would it be the same thing if I called a Nissan Titan a Datsun, because it once was one? basskisser, was that post a post-orgasmic activity for you? My God, you go on, and on, and on... Because he is "King of the NG idiots" But what else do you expect from someone who has to lie about his education and employemnt. So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. Is this the new fixation replacing the Labatt/Labatts one? I liked the pictures of Labatt's Blue beer bottles. I hope he sticks with that one. -- John H You, and everyone else who still uses Labatt's are wrong. Look at a bottle. It's not been Labatt's since 1973. Do you still call Nissan cars Datsuns? |
On 31 Mar 2005 07:20:03 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:
John H wrote: On 30 Mar 2005 08:59:06 -0800, wrote: So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. basskisser, YOU said: "The further away a subject is, the less depth of field there is." Yes, and John, you don't see the problem here. You've shown a comparison of depth of field THROUGH A LENS OF 'X' FOCAL LENGTH. Do this. Look out of your window, look at something, say some trees that are close to you. Notice that you can judge distance quite well? Now. Look at trees off a hundred yards. Notice that you CAN'T judge the distance? Okay, what did we learn? You see, if the photographer was using a small cheap digital camera, and using DIGITAL zoom, as opposed to altering focal length, a new and amazing thing happens. Depth of field now works like your eye, as opposed to using a zoom lens!!!! I hope this clears it up for you. Do this, take a camera with a DIGITAL zoom, use it to take a picture off in the distance. Now, take a 35mm, use a zoom LENS, take the same picture. Print them both. You will notice the above difference in depth of field, using the Circle of Confusion. Obfuscating the issue, aren't we? Does depth of field increase with distance to the subject? You said it became less. Go here for a less confusing explanation: http://www.ephotozine.com/techniques...e.cfm?recid=63 You'll note that the three main factors determining depth of field are aperture, focal length, and camera-to-subject distance. As the latter increases, the depth of field increases. The use of a digital camera may affect the actual depth of field in a given situation, but it doesn't alter the basics. Extract: 3 The Camera-to-Subject Distance For various technical reasons, the closer you get to the subject the more limited the depth becomes. In fact, when shooting close-up subjects it can extend to just a few millimeters in front of and behind the subject. I guess you could spend time looking up bulll**** to obfuscate the issue, but the fact remains that you made a boo-boo. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On 31 Mar 2005 07:22:51 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:
John H wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:09:18 -0500, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On 30 Mar 2005 05:47:42 -0800, wrote: P.Fritz wrote: "N S Sherlock" no****sherlock.com wrote in message ... Your response sounds very similar to my kids when they yell "BUT DAD HE STARTED IT FIRST". Asslicker is almost to easy to hook......most everybody here play's catch and release with him. Hey, Fritz, tells us more about how their aren't any tourists in Guantanamo!!!! Oh, and tell us again how it's correct to call Labatt Blue "Labatt's Blue", because it was called that 32 years ago!!!!! Would it be the same thing if I called a Nissan Titan a Datsun, because it once was one? basskisser, was that post a post-orgasmic activity for you? My God, you go on, and on, and on... Because he is "King of the NG idiots" But what else do you expect from someone who has to lie about his education and employemnt. So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. Is this the new fixation replacing the Labatt/Labatts one? I liked the pictures of Labatt's Blue beer bottles. I hope he sticks with that one. -- John H You, and everyone else who still uses Labatt's are wrong. Look at a bottle. It's not been Labatt's since 1973. Do you still call Nissan cars Datsuns? You're wrong. http://www.mylifeisbeer.com/beer/bot...tledetail/230/ But, speaking of being wrong, do you remember this post? ************************************** On 2 Mar 2005 12:07:35 -0800, wrote: And all of the conservatives here are lying ****ing pigs, just like you, liar. ******************************** That was a jewel. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... On 31 Mar 2005 07:20:03 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: John H wrote: On 30 Mar 2005 08:59:06 -0800, wrote: So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. basskisser, YOU said: "The further away a subject is, the less depth of field there is." Yes, and John, you don't see the problem here. You've shown a comparison of depth of field THROUGH A LENS OF 'X' FOCAL LENGTH. Do this. Look out of your window, look at something, say some trees that are close to you. Notice that you can judge distance quite well? Now. Look at trees off a hundred yards. Notice that you CAN'T judge the distance? Okay, what did we learn? You see, if the photographer was using a small cheap digital camera, and using DIGITAL zoom, as opposed to altering focal length, a new and amazing thing happens. Depth of field now works like your eye, as opposed to using a zoom lens!!!! I hope this clears it up for you. Do this, take a camera with a DIGITAL zoom, use it to take a picture off in the distance. Now, take a 35mm, use a zoom LENS, take the same picture. Print them both. You will notice the above difference in depth of field, using the Circle of Confusion. Obfuscating the issue, aren't we? Does depth of field increase with distance to the subject? You said it became less. Go here for a less confusing explanation: http://www.ephotozine.com/techniques...e.cfm?recid=63 You'll note that the three main factors determining depth of field are aperture, focal length, and camera-to-subject distance. As the latter increases, the depth of field increases. The use of a digital camera may affect the actual depth of field in a given situation, but it doesn't alter the basics. Extract: 3 The Camera-to-Subject Distance For various technical reasons, the closer you get to the subject the more limited the depth becomes. In fact, when shooting close-up subjects it can extend to just a few millimeters in front of and behind the subject. I guess you could spend time looking up bulll**** to obfuscate the issue, but the fact remains that you made a boo-boo. Again..........but what's new? LMAO -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... On 31 Mar 2005 07:22:51 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:09:18 -0500, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On 30 Mar 2005 05:47:42 -0800, wrote: P.Fritz wrote: "N S Sherlock" no****sherlock.com wrote in message ... Your response sounds very similar to my kids when they yell "BUT DAD HE STARTED IT FIRST". Asslicker is almost to easy to hook......most everybody here play's catch and release with him. Hey, Fritz, tells us more about how their aren't any tourists in Guantanamo!!!! Oh, and tell us again how it's correct to call Labatt Blue "Labatt's Blue", because it was called that 32 years ago!!!!! Would it be the same thing if I called a Nissan Titan a Datsun, because it once was one? basskisser, was that post a post-orgasmic activity for you? My God, you go on, and on, and on... Because he is "King of the NG idiots" But what else do you expect from someone who has to lie about his education and employemnt. So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. Is this the new fixation replacing the Labatt/Labatts one? I liked the pictures of Labatt's Blue beer bottles. I hope he sticks with that one. -- John H You, and everyone else who still uses Labatt's are wrong. Look at a bottle. It's not been Labatt's since 1973. Do you still call Nissan cars Datsuns? You're wrong. The fact of the matter is that it is referenced as Labatt's all the time, in advertising, on clothing etc..............and can be found all over the web and in real life......unlike "cow down" Asslicker seems to enjoy ****ing in the wind and soiling himself. http://www.mylifeisbeer.com/beer/bot...tledetail/230/ But, speaking of being wrong, do you remember this post? ************************************** On 2 Mar 2005 12:07:35 -0800, wrote: And all of the conservatives here are lying ****ing pigs, just like you, liar. ******************************** That was a jewel. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
John H wrote: On 31 Mar 2005 07:20:03 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: John H wrote: On 30 Mar 2005 08:59:06 -0800, wrote: So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. basskisser, YOU said: "The further away a subject is, the less depth of field there is." Yes, and John, you don't see the problem here. You've shown a comparison of depth of field THROUGH A LENS OF 'X' FOCAL LENGTH. Do this. Look out of your window, look at something, say some trees that are close to you. Notice that you can judge distance quite well? Now. Look at trees off a hundred yards. Notice that you CAN'T judge the distance? Okay, what did we learn? You see, if the photographer was using a small cheap digital camera, and using DIGITAL zoom, as opposed to altering focal length, a new and amazing thing happens. Depth of field now works like your eye, as opposed to using a zoom lens!!!! I hope this clears it up for you. Do this, take a camera with a DIGITAL zoom, use it to take a picture off in the distance. Now, take a 35mm, use a zoom LENS, take the same picture. Print them both. You will notice the above difference in depth of field, using the Circle of Confusion. Obfuscating the issue, aren't we? Does depth of field increase with distance to the subject? You said it became less. Go here for a less confusing explanation: http://www.ephotozine.com/techniques...e.cfm?recid=63 You'll note that the three main factors determining depth of field are aperture, focal length, and camera-to-subject distance. As the latter increases, the depth of field increases. The use of a digital camera may affect the actual depth of field in a given situation, but it doesn't alter the basics. Extract: 3 The Camera-to-Subject Distance For various technical reasons, the closer you get to the subject the more limited the depth becomes. In fact, when shooting close-up subjects it can extend to just a few millimeters in front of and behind the subject. I guess you could spend time looking up bulll**** to obfuscate the issue, but the fact remains that you made a boo-boo. -- John H Oh, holy hell, here we go. I explained it, if you can't comprehend it, too bad, you shouldn't have been involved in the conversation. You are dead wrong in MANY instances. Do you even understand the COC? Do you even grasp that the depth of field you are talking about is exclusive to focal length zoom, as opposed to digital? And yes, it certainly alters the basics. depth of field is right the opposite with focal length zoom, than with digital, AND THE NAKED EYE. Now, again, take a digitally zoomed picture, and one with a 35mm, or 110, or 4x5 filmed camera, and LOOK at the processed picture. You'll notice the difference right away. Or, at least you should........ |
On 31 Mar 2005 09:11:48 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:
John H wrote: On 31 Mar 2005 07:20:03 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: John H wrote: On 30 Mar 2005 08:59:06 -0800, wrote: So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. basskisser, YOU said: "The further away a subject is, the less depth of field there is." Yes, and John, you don't see the problem here. You've shown a comparison of depth of field THROUGH A LENS OF 'X' FOCAL LENGTH. Do this. Look out of your window, look at something, say some trees that are close to you. Notice that you can judge distance quite well? Now. Look at trees off a hundred yards. Notice that you CAN'T judge the distance? Okay, what did we learn? You see, if the photographer was using a small cheap digital camera, and using DIGITAL zoom, as opposed to altering focal length, a new and amazing thing happens. Depth of field now works like your eye, as opposed to using a zoom lens!!!! I hope this clears it up for you. Do this, take a camera with a DIGITAL zoom, use it to take a picture off in the distance. Now, take a 35mm, use a zoom LENS, take the same picture. Print them both. You will notice the above difference in depth of field, using the Circle of Confusion. Obfuscating the issue, aren't we? Does depth of field increase with distance to the subject? You said it became less. Go here for a less confusing explanation: http://www.ephotozine.com/techniques...e.cfm?recid=63 You'll note that the three main factors determining depth of field are aperture, focal length, and camera-to-subject distance. As the latter increases, the depth of field increases. The use of a digital camera may affect the actual depth of field in a given situation, but it doesn't alter the basics. Extract: 3 The Camera-to-Subject Distance For various technical reasons, the closer you get to the subject the more limited the depth becomes. In fact, when shooting close-up subjects it can extend to just a few millimeters in front of and behind the subject. I guess you could spend time looking up bulll**** to obfuscate the issue, but the fact remains that you made a boo-boo. -- John H Oh, holy hell, here we go. I explained it, if you can't comprehend it, too bad, you shouldn't have been involved in the conversation. You are dead wrong in MANY instances. Do you even understand the COC? Do you even grasp that the depth of field you are talking about is exclusive to focal length zoom, as opposed to digital? And yes, it certainly alters the basics. depth of field is right the opposite with focal length zoom, than with digital, AND THE NAKED EYE. Now, again, take a digitally zoomed picture, and one with a 35mm, or 110, or 4x5 filmed camera, and LOOK at the processed picture. You'll notice the difference right away. Or, at least you should........ ROFLMAO!! You're hitting a peak! You keep on believing that camera-to-subject distance has no bearing on depth of field. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
P=2EFritz wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On 31 Mar 2005 07:22:51 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:09:18 -0500, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On 30 Mar 2005 05:47:42 -0800, wrote: P.Fritz wrote: "N S Sherlock" no****sherlock.com wrote in message ... Your response sounds very similar to my kids when they yell "BUT DAD HE STARTED IT FIRST". Asslicker is almost to easy to hook......most everybody here play's catch and release with him. Hey, Fritz, tells us more about how their aren't any tourists in Guantanamo!!!! Oh, and tell us again how it's correct to call Labatt Blue "Labatt's Blue", because it was called that 32 years ago!!!!! Would it be the same thing if I called a Nissan Titan a Datsun, because it once was one? basskisser, was that post a post-orgasmic activity for you? My God, you go on, and on, and on... Because he is "King of the NG idiots" But what else do you expect from someone who has to lie about his education and employemnt. So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. Is this the new fixation replacing the Labatt/Labatts one? I liked the pictures of Labatt's Blue beer bottles. I hope he sticks with that one. -- John H You, and everyone else who still uses Labatt's are wrong. Look at a bottle. It's not been Labatt's since 1973. Do you still call Nissan cars Datsuns? You're wrong. The fact of the matter is that it is referenced as Labatt's all the time, in advertising, on clothing etc..............and can be found all over the web and in real life......unlike "cow down" Please show me ANYTHING, clothing, advertising, etc, from Labatt Ltd. that says "Labatt's", and I'm not talking pre-1973. Again, go to http://www.labatt.com, and have a look. And, again, do you think that because an unknowing distributor or two still calls it Labatt's, that they would know more than the company that MAKES it? As for "cow down", want to hear a song that contains that exact phrase? If I give it to you, will you admit that you were wrong about THAT also? Oh, yeah, no tourists in Guantanamo, huh: http://www.usacubatravel.com/guantanamo.html http://www.worldsurface.com/browse/l...ationid=3D5175 Hmm, what's THIS: Guantanamo - Guant=E1namo is the province of Cuba located at the eastern end of the Island. This is a predominantly mountainous region of deep contrasts, and the only place in the country where you can find semidesert landscapes.There are between the Cuban capital and this territory little more than 900 kilometers (part of which is illegally occupied by an American aero naval base). The main door of this province for international tourism is the Baracoa, Prime City of Cuba. http://www.hicuba.com/eng/tourist-guide-east.htm |
"John H" wrote in message ... On 31 Mar 2005 09:11:48 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: John H wrote: On 31 Mar 2005 07:20:03 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: John H wrote: On 30 Mar 2005 08:59:06 -0800, wrote: So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. basskisser, YOU said: "The further away a subject is, the less depth of field there is." Yes, and John, you don't see the problem here. You've shown a comparison of depth of field THROUGH A LENS OF 'X' FOCAL LENGTH. Do this. Look out of your window, look at something, say some trees that are close to you. Notice that you can judge distance quite well? Now. Look at trees off a hundred yards. Notice that you CAN'T judge the distance? Okay, what did we learn? You see, if the photographer was using a small cheap digital camera, and using DIGITAL zoom, as opposed to altering focal length, a new and amazing thing happens. Depth of field now works like your eye, as opposed to using a zoom lens!!!! I hope this clears it up for you. Do this, take a camera with a DIGITAL zoom, use it to take a picture off in the distance. Now, take a 35mm, use a zoom LENS, take the same picture. Print them both. You will notice the above difference in depth of field, using the Circle of Confusion. Obfuscating the issue, aren't we? Does depth of field increase with distance to the subject? You said it became less. Go here for a less confusing explanation: http://www.ephotozine.com/techniques...e.cfm?recid=63 You'll note that the three main factors determining depth of field are aperture, focal length, and camera-to-subject distance. As the latter increases, the depth of field increases. The use of a digital camera may affect the actual depth of field in a given situation, but it doesn't alter the basics. Extract: 3 The Camera-to-Subject Distance For various technical reasons, the closer you get to the subject the more limited the depth becomes. In fact, when shooting close-up subjects it can extend to just a few millimeters in front of and behind the subject. I guess you could spend time looking up bulll**** to obfuscate the issue, but the fact remains that you made a boo-boo. -- John H Oh, holy hell, here we go. I explained it, if you can't comprehend it, too bad, you shouldn't have been involved in the conversation. You are dead wrong in MANY instances. Do you even understand the COC? Do you even grasp that the depth of field you are talking about is exclusive to focal length zoom, as opposed to digital? And yes, it certainly alters the basics. depth of field is right the opposite with focal length zoom, than with digital, AND THE NAKED EYE. Now, again, take a digitally zoomed picture, and one with a 35mm, or 110, or 4x5 filmed camera, and LOOK at the processed picture. You'll notice the difference right away. Or, at least you should........ ROFLMAO!! You're hitting a peak! You keep on believing that camera-to-subject distance has no bearing on depth of field. That is the asslicker "losing an arguement go into a rant" routine. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:23:33 -0500, "P.Fritz"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On 31 Mar 2005 09:11:48 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: John H wrote: On 31 Mar 2005 07:20:03 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: John H wrote: On 30 Mar 2005 08:59:06 -0800, wrote: So, Fritz, are you going to tell us? YOU stated that your brother told you there weren't many tourists in Guantanamo, when in fact, that region is the tourism hot spot for Cuba!!!! YOU said that it was "Labatt's", when in fact it's not. Now, why, when YOU WERE DEAD WRONG BOTH TIMES, would you blame it on me? I didn't make you either lie, or post in ignorance. basskisser, YOU said: "The further away a subject is, the less depth of field there is." Yes, and John, you don't see the problem here. You've shown a comparison of depth of field THROUGH A LENS OF 'X' FOCAL LENGTH. Do this. Look out of your window, look at something, say some trees that are close to you. Notice that you can judge distance quite well? Now. Look at trees off a hundred yards. Notice that you CAN'T judge the distance? Okay, what did we learn? You see, if the photographer was using a small cheap digital camera, and using DIGITAL zoom, as opposed to altering focal length, a new and amazing thing happens. Depth of field now works like your eye, as opposed to using a zoom lens!!!! I hope this clears it up for you. Do this, take a camera with a DIGITAL zoom, use it to take a picture off in the distance. Now, take a 35mm, use a zoom LENS, take the same picture. Print them both. You will notice the above difference in depth of field, using the Circle of Confusion. Obfuscating the issue, aren't we? Does depth of field increase with distance to the subject? You said it became less. Go here for a less confusing explanation: http://www.ephotozine.com/techniques...e.cfm?recid=63 You'll note that the three main factors determining depth of field are aperture, focal length, and camera-to-subject distance. As the latter increases, the depth of field increases. The use of a digital camera may affect the actual depth of field in a given situation, but it doesn't alter the basics. Extract: 3 The Camera-to-Subject Distance For various technical reasons, the closer you get to the subject the more limited the depth becomes. In fact, when shooting close-up subjects it can extend to just a few millimeters in front of and behind the subject. I guess you could spend time looking up bulll**** to obfuscate the issue, but the fact remains that you made a boo-boo. -- John H Oh, holy hell, here we go. I explained it, if you can't comprehend it, too bad, you shouldn't have been involved in the conversation. You are dead wrong in MANY instances. Do you even understand the COC? Do you even grasp that the depth of field you are talking about is exclusive to focal length zoom, as opposed to digital? And yes, it certainly alters the basics. depth of field is right the opposite with focal length zoom, than with digital, AND THE NAKED EYE. Now, again, take a digitally zoomed picture, and one with a 35mm, or 110, or 4x5 filmed camera, and LOOK at the processed picture. You'll notice the difference right away. Or, at least you should........ ROFLMAO!! You're hitting a peak! You keep on believing that camera-to-subject distance has no bearing on depth of field. That is the asslicker "losing an arguement go into a rant" routine. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." So friggin' predictable... -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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