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Jim, March 24th 05 02:25 PM

( OT ) Terri Schiavo and the fight over Bush's judges
 
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html

Extract
But before the right goes too far down the road of outrage over
"judicial activists" who have ruled against Terri Schiavo's parents, it
ought to take a head count of the federal judges who have had an
opportunity to rule on the case so far. The U.S. Supreme Court declined
to intervene in the case before Congress involved itself. Among the nine
justices on the Supreme Court, seven were appointed by Republican
presidents, just two by Democrats. After Congress intervened in the
Schiavo case over the weekend, the case was heard by one U.S. District
Court judge, a Democratic appointee. Then 12 judges on the U.S. Court of
Appeals had had their say -- six appointed by Democratic presidents, six
by Republicans. All together, then, 22 federal judges have had a hand in
bringing the Schiavo case to where it is today. Thirteen of them were
appointed by Republicans; just nine were appointed by Democrats. If the
solution to an "out of control" federal judiciary is putting more
Republican nominees on the bench, then the Schiavo case -- like the
legal disputes over gay marriage -- isn't much evidence of that.

[email protected] March 24th 05 03:52 PM

But, Jimcomma, just think....

If the case had been heard by Democratically appointed judges, why they
would have required that she be kept alive for ever, just to create a
continuing drain on the treasury as well as a need for bigger
government and more taxation!

At least the Repuiblican judges said, "it's up to everybody to shift
for themselves, without any socialist help from society in
general".......(er, that *is* what they said, right.....oh,
no.....wait........)


JimH March 24th 05 03:57 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...
But, Jimcomma, just think....

If the case had been heard by Democratically appointed judges, why they
would have required that she be kept alive for ever, just to create a
continuing drain on the treasury as well as a need for bigger
government and more taxation!

At least the Repuiblican judges said, "it's up to everybody to shift
for themselves, without any socialist help from society in
general".......(er, that *is* what they said, right.....oh,
no.....wait........)


You continue to make it a left vs right issue. That, my friend, is not
the issue, although the left has chosen to make it so.

Did you listen to the interviews from the link I posted? What are your
comments on the interviews?

Here again is the link.

http://www.glennbeck.com/audio/free-audio.shtml



Jim, March 24th 05 05:28 PM

JimH wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

But, Jimcomma, just think....

If the case had been heard by Democratically appointed judges, why they
would have required that she be kept alive for ever, just to create a
continuing drain on the treasury as well as a need for bigger
government and more taxation!

At least the Repuiblican judges said, "it's up to everybody to shift
for themselves, without any socialist help from society in
general".......(er, that *is* what they said, right.....oh,
no.....wait........)



You continue to make it a left vs right issue. That, my friend, is not
the issue, although the left has chosen to make it so.

Did you listen to the interviews from the link I posted? What are your
comments on the interviews?

Here again is the link.

http://www.glennbeck.com/audio/free-audio.shtml


And Glen Beck is not biased???


John H March 24th 05 06:07 PM

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:25:48 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html

Extract
But before the right goes too far down the road of outrage over
"judicial activists" who have ruled against Terri Schiavo's parents, it
ought to take a head count of the federal judges who have had an
opportunity to rule on the case so far. The U.S. Supreme Court declined
to intervene in the case before Congress involved itself. Among the nine
justices on the Supreme Court, seven were appointed by Republican
presidents, just two by Democrats. After Congress intervened in the
Schiavo case over the weekend, the case was heard by one U.S. District
Court judge, a Democratic appointee. Then 12 judges on the U.S. Court of
Appeals had had their say -- six appointed by Democratic presidents, six
by Republicans. All together, then, 22 federal judges have had a hand in
bringing the Schiavo case to where it is today. Thirteen of them were
appointed by Republicans; just nine were appointed by Democrats. If the
solution to an "out of control" federal judiciary is putting more
Republican nominees on the bench, then the Schiavo case -- like the
legal disputes over gay marriage -- isn't much evidence of that.


I've yet to hear anyone on the right refer to the previous judges as 'political
activists'. *That* is more bull****.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Jim, March 24th 05 06:20 PM

John H wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:25:48 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html

Extract
But before the right goes too far down the road of outrage over
"judicial activists" who have ruled against Terri Schiavo's parents, it
ought to take a head count of the federal judges who have had an
opportunity to rule on the case so far. The U.S. Supreme Court declined
to intervene in the case before Congress involved itself. Among the nine
justices on the Supreme Court, seven were appointed by Republican
presidents, just two by Democrats. After Congress intervened in the
Schiavo case over the weekend, the case was heard by one U.S. District
Court judge, a Democratic appointee. Then 12 judges on the U.S. Court of
Appeals had had their say -- six appointed by Democratic presidents, six
by Republicans. All together, then, 22 federal judges have had a hand in
bringing the Schiavo case to where it is today. Thirteen of them were
appointed by Republicans; just nine were appointed by Democrats. If the
solution to an "out of control" federal judiciary is putting more
Republican nominees on the bench, then the Schiavo case -- like the
legal disputes over gay marriage -- isn't much evidence of that.



I've yet to hear anyone on the right refer to the previous judges as 'political
activists'. *That* is more bull****.


The above makes no mention of "activist judges" The reference comes
from the right wing mantra; chanted whenever they don't get what they want.


John H March 24th 05 10:30 PM

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:20:12 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

John H wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:25:48 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html

Extract
But before the right goes too far down the road of outrage over
"judicial activists" who have ruled against Terri Schiavo's parents, it
ought to take a head count of the federal judges who have had an
opportunity to rule on the case so far. The U.S. Supreme Court declined
to intervene in the case before Congress involved itself. Among the nine
justices on the Supreme Court, seven were appointed by Republican
presidents, just two by Democrats. After Congress intervened in the
Schiavo case over the weekend, the case was heard by one U.S. District
Court judge, a Democratic appointee. Then 12 judges on the U.S. Court of
Appeals had had their say -- six appointed by Democratic presidents, six
by Republicans. All together, then, 22 federal judges have had a hand in
bringing the Schiavo case to where it is today. Thirteen of them were
appointed by Republicans; just nine were appointed by Democrats. If the
solution to an "out of control" federal judiciary is putting more
Republican nominees on the bench, then the Schiavo case -- like the
legal disputes over gay marriage -- isn't much evidence of that.



I've yet to hear anyone on the right refer to the previous judges as 'political
activists'. *That* is more bull****.


The above makes no mention of "activist judges" The reference comes
from the right wing mantra; chanted whenever they don't get what they want.


Well, excuse the **** out of me! I should have said "judicial activists" which
are much, much different from 'activist judges'.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Jim, March 28th 05 08:19 PM

John H wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:25:48 GMT, "Jim," wrote:


http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html

Extract
But before the right goes too far down the road of outrage over
"judicial activists" who have ruled against Terri Schiavo's parents, it
ought to take a head count of the federal judges who have had an
opportunity to rule on the case so far. The U.S. Supreme Court declined
to intervene in the case before Congress involved itself. Among the nine
justices on the Supreme Court, seven were appointed by Republican
presidents, just two by Democrats. After Congress intervened in the
Schiavo case over the weekend, the case was heard by one U.S. District
Court judge, a Democratic appointee. Then 12 judges on the U.S. Court of
Appeals had had their say -- six appointed by Democratic presidents, six
by Republicans. All together, then, 22 federal judges have had a hand in
bringing the Schiavo case to where it is today. Thirteen of them were
appointed by Republicans; just nine were appointed by Democrats. If the
solution to an "out of control" federal judiciary is putting more
Republican nominees on the bench, then the Schiavo case -- like the
legal disputes over gay marriage -- isn't much evidence of that.



I've yet to hear anyone on the right refer to the previous judges as 'political
activists'. *That* is more bull****.


The above makes no mention of "activist judges" The reference comes
from the right wing mantra; chanted whenever they don't get what they want.

JimH March 31st 05 05:11 PM

She has passed away. I hope everyone is now happy.



Clams Canino March 31st 05 05:14 PM

No one is happy about this case..............

-W

"JimH" wrote in message
...
She has passed away. I hope everyone is now happy.





JimH March 31st 05 05:25 PM

Sure they are. And we have now seen over the past 2 weeks that the Court's
in the US are more powerful than the legislative and executive branches.


"Clams Canino" wrote in message
k.net...
No one is happy about this case..............

-W

"JimH" wrote in message
...
She has passed away. I hope everyone is now happy.







jim, March 31st 05 05:45 PM

Well I learned a long time ago in civics class about the 3 branches of
government

The legislator MAKES the law

The Judiciary INTERPERATES the law

The president ENFORCES the law

JimH wrote:
Sure they are. And we have now seen over the past 2 weeks that the Court's
in the US are more powerful than the legislative and executive branches.


"Clams Canino" wrote in message
k.net...

No one is happy about this case..............

-W

"JimH" wrote in message
...

She has passed away. I hope everyone is now happy.







John H March 31st 05 05:55 PM

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:11:08 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

She has passed away. I hope everyone is now happy.

I'm glad that her wishes were realized.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

N S Sherlock March 31st 05 06:28 PM

I am happy that Terri's wishes has finally been realized. She would have
been ashamed and disgusted at the way her situation was politicized by her
parents..


"JimH" wrote in message
...
Sure they are. And we have now seen over the past 2 weeks that the
Court's in the US are more powerful than the legislative and executive
branches.


"Clams Canino" wrote in message
k.net...
No one is happy about this case..............

-W

"JimH" wrote in message
...
She has passed away. I hope everyone is now happy.










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