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Jim March 24th 05 03:03 AM

Sideways in heavy surf for 3 days
 
The Irving Johnson. Unbelievably well built.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/

Big tug on it finally. It'll pull all night, and for the first time,
it's pointing into the surf. High tide, just after 8 am.

Hope for the best.


Calif Bill March 24th 05 03:57 AM


"Jim" wrote in message
ink.net...
The Irving Johnson. Unbelievably well built.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/

Big tug on it finally. It'll pull all night, and for the first time,
it's pointing into the surf. High tide, just after 8 am.

Hope for the best.


Unbelievably lucky! The tide was just low enough to keep it off the rocks
and lieing on the sandbar.



Short Wave Sportfishing March 24th 05 01:15 PM

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:03:51 GMT, Jim wrote:

The Irving Johnson. Unbelievably well built.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/

Big tug on it finally. It'll pull all night, and for the first time,
it's pointing into the surf. High tide, just after 8 am.

Hope for the best.


Wha? Nuttin there...

Later,

Tom

Wayne.B March 24th 05 06:51 PM

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:15:14 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:03:51 GMT, Jim wrote:

The Irving Johnson. Unbelievably well built.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/

Big tug on it finally. It'll pull all night, and for the first time,
it's pointing into the surf. High tide, just after 8 am.

Hope for the best.


Wha? Nuttin there...

======================

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/1397292.html


Calif Bill March 24th 05 07:26 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:03:51 GMT, Jim wrote:

The Irving Johnson. Unbelievably well built.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/

Big tug on it finally. It'll pull all night, and for the first time,
it's pointing into the surf. High tide, just after 8 am.

Hope for the best.


Wha? Nuttin there...

Later,

Tom


Apparently a 90 foot long Tallship went aground on a sand bar just outside
of Channel Islands Harbor south jetty this evening with a load of college
kids aboard.

More details located he
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4305500/detail.html

Pictures are located he
http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/4305456/detail.html






Short Wave Sportfishing March 24th 05 07:31 PM

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:26:17 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:03:51 GMT, Jim wrote:

The Irving Johnson. Unbelievably well built.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/

Big tug on it finally. It'll pull all night, and for the first time,
it's pointing into the surf. High tide, just after 8 am.

Hope for the best.


Wha? Nuttin there...

Later,

Tom


Apparently a 90 foot long Tallship went aground on a sand bar just outside
of Channel Islands Harbor south jetty this evening with a load of college
kids aboard.

More details located he
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4305500/detail.html

Pictures are located he
http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/4305456/detail.html


Thankee.

Hope it all works out.

Later,

Tom

Calif Bill March 24th 05 07:38 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:26:17 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:03:51 GMT, Jim wrote:

The Irving Johnson. Unbelievably well built.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/

Big tug on it finally. It'll pull all night, and for the first time,
it's pointing into the surf. High tide, just after 8 am.

Hope for the best.

Wha? Nuttin there...

Later,

Tom


Apparently a 90 foot long Tallship went aground on a sand bar just

outside
of Channel Islands Harbor south jetty this evening with a load of college
kids aboard.

More details located he
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4305500/detail.html

Pictures are located he
http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/4305456/detail.html


Thankee.

Hope it all works out.

Later,

Tom


I understand they have a tug pulling it off, and it is going to survive.
Will need major engine work, as the water came in the chain lockers when it
was layed over.



Jim March 25th 05 03:05 AM

I sent the link to the first page, because that's where the photo was,
waves breaking over the deck.

I hadn't thought that it changes every day.

Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:15:14 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:03:51 GMT, Jim wrote:


The Irving Johnson. Unbelievably well built.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/

Big tug on it finally. It'll pull all night, and for the first time,
it's pointing into the surf. High tide, just after 8 am.

Hope for the best.


Wha? Nuttin there...


======================

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/1397292.html



Jim March 25th 05 03:15 AM



Calif Bill wrote:
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I understand they have a tug pulling it off, and it is going to survive.
Will need major engine work, as the water came in the chain lockers when it
was layed over.



Unfortunately, as of right now, it's still on the beach.

Frustrating watching, because they aren't doing what I would do, which
by now would to be cut off the masts, strip the hull, and maybe even add
floatation. Try to save the hull.

I hope they make it, but it can't keep up the beating forever. I've
seen heavy rigging tear a beached hull apart before.



otnmbrd March 25th 05 05:25 AM

This evenings pull, successful

Jim March 25th 05 06:16 AM

Finally, successs.

otnmbrd wrote:
This evenings pull, successful



Calif Bill March 25th 05 07:19 AM


"Jim" wrote in message
nk.net...
Finally, successs.

otnmbrd wrote:
This evenings pull, successful



I understand it was mostly inside the breakwater. There was a new sandbar
where the boat had normally transited. The major danger was to get into the
rocks.



Jim March 25th 05 05:13 PM



Calif Bill wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
nk.net...

Finally, successs.

otnmbrd wrote:

This evenings pull, successful



I understand it was mostly inside the breakwater. There was a new sandbar
where the boat had normally transited. The major danger was to get into the
rocks.


I have a friend who has a 1920's Rolls Royce touring car. He drives it,
but with cars all around it to protect it. Worth about the same as the
"Irving Johnson." It might be an idea to lead a boat like that into
port with a boat with a depthsounder. Maybe forward looking sonar.

I believe that a review will show that sandbars do not magically appear,
it was there. They approached at low tide and thought they were in the
clear.

The boat sat in some pretty heavy surf, in wasn't inside the breakwater.
It did bounce around right next to the jetty, awful to watch.

They got it off, and that's what counts.

Can't help but wonder, though . . .


otnmbrd March 26th 05 04:16 AM

Jim wrote:

I have a friend who has a 1920's Rolls Royce touring car. He drives it,
but with cars all around it to protect it. Worth about the same as the
"Irving Johnson." It might be an idea to lead a boat like that into
port with a boat with a depthsounder. Maybe forward looking sonar.


All he had to do was set up his approach, properly. He didn't, he got
into trouble.
BTW, he was towed into port by a tug with a 13' draft (sitting at the
dock)..... no problems (admittedly at a higher tide).
I'm glad to see that the boat is salvaged, no loss of life, and
hopefully the Captain has learned a valuable lesson or two.
Personally, I learned a few things .... I hope others have , also.

otn



HarryKrause March 27th 05 02:27 PM

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:03:51 GMT, Jim wrote:

The Irving Johnson. Unbelievably well built.


I was the lead cosultant for hull design on the ship.

Thank you.


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