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John H January 26th 04 06:19 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!

************************************************** **************************
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner

by Capt. Sean P Kirley, 2nd ACR Regimental PAO

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The Iraq Civil Defense Corps Academy at Camp
Muleskinner graduated its first class of guardsmen Jan. 9 on
Redcatcher Field.

The ICDC School, run by noncommissioned officers and soldiers from the
2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment and 2nd Battalion, 37th Armor Battalion,
1st Armored Division, puts newly recruited individuals through a
rigorous six-day course.

The new ICDC recruits eat, sleep, and train on the academy grounds,
staying fully immersed in the military environment under the watchful
eyes of the cadre. The workday begins at 4 a.m. for the students and
usually does not wind down until about 10 p.m.

For the cadre, hours are more strenuous, starting at 3:30 a.m. and
ending at 1 a.m. daily.

During the 140 hours spent at the ICDC Academy, the students learned a
myriad of tasks -- from basic rifle marksmanship to traffic control
point operations.

The new students arrived to the camp wide-eyed and full of anxiety. As
they received their uniforms, one could clearly see the seeds of pride
being sown.

Brand new AK-47 assault rifles, still with plastic covers on them,
were issued to each student.

Smiles and excited words were exchanged by the new ICDC recruits about
how they looked with their new uniforms on.

It seemed that a party was going to ensue at any moment, until the
cadre came out and “introduced” themselves to the students. It was
made very clear at that point, through highly amplified words echoed
to the students by an interpreter that the celebration would come on
graduation day, when the long week of training and mentoring was
complete.

Until then, the orders came from the cadre, the grounds would be kept
clean, and everyone would keep quiet and listen to the blocks of
instruction.

There were no questions. The party was over.

The first day of classes, which covered legal advice and regulations,
was taught by Capt. Patrick Parson the Regiment’s Judge Advocate
General officer.

The second day consisted of basic first aid and life saving skills.

One of the trainers asked how many students had seen a gun shot wound
at some time in the past. Almost every hand went up.

During the first two days of training, drill and ceremony was stressed
very heavily. The students were introduced to calling cadence,
executing orders while marching and keeping in step.

As the week progressed, the cadence calling was turned over to the
students.

During basic rifle marksmanship training, the students were taught how
to load, charge, fire, and clear their weapons. The students went
through a myriad of firing stances -- standing to prone. They went
through a series of scenarios: reacting to direct fire and traffic
control points.

The evening of their last class day was spent practicing for the big
day: graduation.

With Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling, assistant division commander for
support, Col. Bradley May, 2nd ACR commander and Lt. Col. John Curran,
Regimental Support Squadron commander, observing, the students marched
onto the field.

With minimal time to practice the ceremony, the platoons marched past
the reviewing stand with precision.

They were proud of themselves, what they had accomplished, and what
they will accomplish.

“We have worked with these guys up in Sadr City before this. We had a
good feel for what they can do well and what we have to work on at the
Academy,” said Staff Sgt. Shannon Doucet, 4th Platoon sergeant. “These
guys are the future of Iraq.”

Doucet will take this platoon back to 2nd Squadron, 2nd ACR, where
they will provide a safe and secure environment for the 2 million
people of Sadr City, located in the northeast section of Baghdad.

The ICDC Academy is driven predominately by junior noncommissioned
officers like Sgt. Rafael Arias, who was assigned as 3rd squad leader
of 4th platoon.

Pvt. Brandon Ritter was also assigned a squad at the academy, proving
that even our youngest, least experienced soldiers are awesome
leaders. The ICDC Academy Commander is Capt. Mike Gautreaux and the
noncommissioned officer in charge is Mater Sgt. Johnny Mackenzie.

With the graduation ceremony at an end, the new ICDC soldiers
celebrated.

One platoon lifted one of their trainers, Sgt. Danny Hill, unto their
shoulders, shouting “Thank you, thank you Sgt. Hill!”

They were feeling like soldiers, looking like soldiers. But most
importantly, after six days of training, they were acting like
soldiers.
************************************************** ****

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Don White January 26th 04 08:13 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
...
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!


************************************************** **************************
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner




John H January 26th 04 08:25 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!


************************************************* ***************************
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Doug Kanter January 26th 04 08:27 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they

knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door

when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!



************************************************* **************************

*
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?


How much training do police receive in major US cities, John?



John H January 26th 04 08:33 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:27:45 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they

knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door

when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!



************************************************ ***************************

*
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?


How much training do police receive in major US cities, John?

For traffic control, basic first aid, and shooting a rifle in
self-defense? Probably about a week.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Doug Kanter January 26th 04 08:46 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:27:45 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they

knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door

when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!




************************************************ **************************

*
*
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?


How much training do police receive in major US cities, John?

For traffic control, basic first aid, and shooting a rifle in
self-defense? Probably about a week.

John H


Probably?



Harry Krause January 26th 04 09:17 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
John H wrote:

Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!

************************************************** **************************
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner

by Capt. Sean P Kirley, 2nd ACR Regimental PAO

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The Iraq Civil Defense Corps Academy at Camp
Muleskinner graduated its first class of guardsmen Jan. 9 on
Redcatcher Field.

The ICDC School, run by noncommissioned officers and soldiers from the
2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment and 2nd Battalion, 37th Armor Battalion,
1st Armored Division, puts newly recruited individuals through a
rigorous six-day course.


Six days training?
Heheheh.
So now they're what? Commissioned six day wonders?

Six days of training.

Heheheh.




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Harry Krause January 26th 04 09:17 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
John H wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:27:45 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they

knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door

when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!



*********************************************** ****************************

*
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?


How much training do police receive in major US cities, John?

For traffic control, basic first aid, and shooting a rifle in
self-defense? Probably about a week.

Is that more or less than you got?


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Don White January 26th 04 10:10 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
Unfortunately, John...this may be bad news.
What happens when you get a large number of '6 day trainees' running around
heavily armed?
I've never been in the military so I admit I'm just guessing...but 6 days
does seem skimpy.

John H wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they

knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door

when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!



************************************************* **************************

*
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




John H January 27th 04 01:41 AM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:46:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:27:45 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they
knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door
when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!




*********************************************** ***************************

*
*
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?

How much training do police receive in major US cities, John?

For traffic control, basic first aid, and shooting a rifle in
self-defense? Probably about a week.

John H


Probably?


Doug, I'm not joining a ****ing contest with you guys. If you want bad
news, read Harry's posts.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John H January 27th 04 01:44 AM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:10:21 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Unfortunately, John...this may be bad news.
What happens when you get a large number of '6 day trainees' running around
heavily armed?
I've never been in the military so I admit I'm just guessing...but 6 days
does seem skimpy.

John H wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they

knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door

when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!



************************************************ ***************************

*
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



'Tis better to have them running around on the side of the good guys
than the bad.

Now, I'm not joining you, Doug, and Harry's ****ing contest. If you
want to read bad news, read Harry's.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause January 27th 04 01:55 AM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:46:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:27:45 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything they
knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back door
when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!




********************************************** ****************************

*
*
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?

How much training do police receive in major US cities, John?

For traffic control, basic first aid, and shooting a rifle in
self-defense? Probably about a week.

John H


Probably?


Doug, I'm not joining a ****ing contest with you guys. If you want bad
news, read Harry's posts.

John H


Reality check: what John posts and obviously likes is simple-minded
military propaganda.

Fairfax County, Virginia, a surburban area not quite as dangerous as
Iraq, trains its new cops at The Fairfax County Criminal Justice
Academy, located at 14601 Lee Road, Chantilly, Virginia. It trains
approximately 230 new law enforcement officers a year. The Fairfax
County Criminal Justice Academy is currently the training center for all
law enforcement officers from the Fairfax County Police Department,
Fairfax County Sheriff's Office, and the town police departments of
Herndon and Vienna. Animal Wardens and Fire Marshals are also trained here.
The six month basic recruit session, is a non-residential training
program. Recruits commute to the facility Monday through Friday for an
eight-hour day, varying between day and evening hours. The curriculum
includes Virginia law, report writing, criminal and accident
investigation, warrant service, crime prevention, defensive tactics,
emergency vehicle operations, first aid, and firearms skills. Throughout
the session, recruits must maintain at least a 75% grade point average
and pass training objectives which are mandated by the Virginia
Department of Criminal Justice Services. The Academy provides 919 hours
of training which far exceeds state requirements. The hours translate
into 28 ACE college credits which can be transferred to an Associate's
Degree program in Criminal Justice at Northern Virginia Community College.
The hours that must be successfully completed are as follows:

Basic School 400 hours
Firearms Training 80 hours
Driver Training 80 hours
Physical Fitness 126 hours
Defensive Tactics 113 hours


But, what the hell...six days of training by some military idiots is the
equivalent, eh? I mean, it isn't as if these Iraqi "cops" are going to
be facing any real danger.



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Calif Bill January 27th 04 03:22 AM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:46:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:27:45 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:13:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Six days training eh? ......did your guys teach them everything

they
knew??
Sounds to me like George W is getting ready to slip out the back

door
when
enough of these 'graduates' are delivered.

John H wrote in message
.. .
Not bad enough for Harry or the NY Times to post!





********************************************** **************************

**
*
*
2nd ACR Graduates 1st ICDC Class at Camp Muleskinner


Whatsa matter, Don? News not bad enough for you?

How much training do police receive in major US cities, John?

For traffic control, basic first aid, and shooting a rifle in
self-defense? Probably about a week.

John H

Probably?


Doug, I'm not joining a ****ing contest with you guys. If you want bad
news, read Harry's posts.

John H


Reality check: what John posts and obviously likes is simple-minded
military propaganda.

Fairfax County, Virginia, a surburban area not quite as dangerous as
Iraq, trains its new cops at The Fairfax County Criminal Justice
Academy, located at 14601 Lee Road, Chantilly, Virginia. It trains
approximately 230 new law enforcement officers a year. The Fairfax
County Criminal Justice Academy is currently the training center for all
law enforcement officers from the Fairfax County Police Department,
Fairfax County Sheriff's Office, and the town police departments of
Herndon and Vienna. Animal Wardens and Fire Marshals are also trained

here.
The six month basic recruit session, is a non-residential training
program. Recruits commute to the facility Monday through Friday for an
eight-hour day, varying between day and evening hours. The curriculum
includes Virginia law, report writing, criminal and accident
investigation, warrant service, crime prevention, defensive tactics,
emergency vehicle operations, first aid, and firearms skills. Throughout
the session, recruits must maintain at least a 75% grade point average
and pass training objectives which are mandated by the Virginia
Department of Criminal Justice Services. The Academy provides 919 hours
of training which far exceeds state requirements. The hours translate
into 28 ACE college credits which can be transferred to an Associate's
Degree program in Criminal Justice at Northern Virginia Community College.
The hours that must be successfully completed are as follows:

Basic School 400 hours
Firearms Training 80 hours
Driver Training 80 hours
Physical Fitness 126 hours
Defensive Tactics 113 hours


But, what the hell...six days of training by some military idiots is the
equivalent, eh? I mean, it isn't as if these Iraqi "cops" are going to
be facing any real danger.



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Hell, basic training during the Viet Nam war was only 6 weeks. These are
just local traffic cops, etc. Not the full investigative police officer of
the US. But Harry and Doug knew this and just like to spew garbage.



John H January 27th 04 12:50 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:22:35 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



But, what the hell...six days of training by some military idiots is the
equivalent, eh? I mean, it isn't as if these Iraqi "cops" are going to
be facing any real danger.



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Hell, basic training during the Viet Nam war was only 6 weeks. These are
just local traffic cops, etc. Not the full investigative police officer of
the US. But Harry and Doug knew this and just like to spew garbage.


Well, you're right of course. I hate to put Doug in the same class as
Harry, but I suppose it's necessary.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Doug Kanter January 27th 04 03:27 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


But, what the hell...six days of training by some military idiots is the
equivalent, eh? I mean, it isn't as if these Iraqi "cops" are going to
be facing any real danger.


Nah...just rocket propelled grenades, snipers, land mines and car bombs,
same as I see every day here in upstate New York. For this, the NY State
Police go through 1095 hours of training in 24 weeks (residential). That's
followed by 12 weeks of field training and evaluation.

Of course, we murdered a few Iraqi cops back in November or December, so
maybe we don't want to invest too much in training these guys, considering
how they may be used for target practice.



Doug Kanter January 27th 04 04:50 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
"John H" wrote in message
...


'Tis better to have them running around on the side of the good guys
than the bad.

Now, I'm not joining you, Doug, and Harry's ****ing contest. If you
want to read bad news, read Harry's.

John H


John, let's say you talk to five neighbors and find out all of them have
used the same plumber in the past year. In all cases, the plumber was called
for repairs that anyone handy could've done, but these neighbors weren't
into that sort of thing. Leak in drain under kitchen sink, install new sink
faucet in bathroom, that sort of thing. In all five cases, the plumber
messed things up to the point where there was massive water damage after he
left. Maybe he's an alcoholic who's so far gone that he hits the sauce first
thing in the morning.

Is there any reason to expect that the 6th neighbor to use that plumber will
have a much better experience?



basskisser January 27th 04 05:09 PM

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snipped miles of drivel

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:%PkRb.28175
Hell, basic training during the Viet Nam war was only 6 weeks. These are
just local traffic cops, etc. Not the full investigative police officer of
the US. But Harry and Doug knew this and just like to spew garbage.


Speaking of spewing garbage, please provide any shred of evidence that
these new policemen are "just local traffic cops, etc., not the full
invstigative police officer of the U.S."

Doug Kanter January 27th 04 05:21 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
snipped miles of drivel

"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:%PkRb.28175
Hell, basic training during the Viet Nam war was only 6 weeks. These

are
just local traffic cops, etc. Not the full investigative police officer

of
the US. But Harry and Doug knew this and just like to spew garbage.


Speaking of spewing garbage, please provide any shred of evidence that
these new policemen are "just local traffic cops, etc., not the full
invstigative police officer of the U.S."


....or that regardless of their official purpose, that they may not find
themselves in situations which require much more training. Like being shot
at because they're cooperating with our military. John seems to have
forgotten that insurgents have blown up a couple of Iraqi police stations
recently.



Calif Bill January 27th 04 07:28 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
snipped miles of drivel

"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:%PkRb.28175
Hell, basic training during the Viet Nam war was only 6 weeks. These

are
just local traffic cops, etc. Not the full investigative police

officer
of
the US. But Harry and Doug knew this and just like to spew garbage.


Speaking of spewing garbage, please provide any shred of evidence that
these new policemen are "just local traffic cops, etc., not the full
invstigative police officer of the U.S."


...or that regardless of their official purpose, that they may not find
themselves in situations which require much more training. Like being shot
at because they're cooperating with our military. John seems to have
forgotten that insurgents have blown up a couple of Iraqi police stations
recently.




They probably spent at least 3 days on just that. Avoiding being blown up.
Give some credit to these people. Most probably were former military, and
all have been around people shooting people for a long time. They are not
stupid! Are you so racist, that you give no credit for brains to an Iraqi?
Bill



Doug Kanter January 27th 04 07:31 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
snipped miles of drivel

"Calif Bill" wrote in message

news:%PkRb.28175
Hell, basic training during the Viet Nam war was only 6 weeks.

These
are
just local traffic cops, etc. Not the full investigative police

officer
of
the US. But Harry and Doug knew this and just like to spew garbage.

Speaking of spewing garbage, please provide any shred of evidence that
these new policemen are "just local traffic cops, etc., not the full
invstigative police officer of the U.S."


...or that regardless of their official purpose, that they may not find
themselves in situations which require much more training. Like being

shot
at because they're cooperating with our military. John seems to have
forgotten that insurgents have blown up a couple of Iraqi police

stations
recently.




They probably spent at least 3 days on just that. Avoiding being blown

up.
Give some credit to these people. Most probably were former military, and
all have been around people shooting people for a long time. They are not
stupid! Are you so racist, that you give no credit for brains to an

Iraqi?
Bill


You missed the point. I think we're going to start doing certain things "on
the cheap", quick and dirty, just to get the hell out of Iraq before things
get any uglier than they are now. You know why we're going to do this.



John H January 27th 04 09:09 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:31:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
snipped miles of drivel

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:%PkRb.28175
Hell, basic training during the Viet Nam war was only 6 weeks.

These
are
just local traffic cops, etc. Not the full investigative police

officer
of
the US. But Harry and Doug knew this and just like to spew garbage.

Speaking of spewing garbage, please provide any shred of evidence that
these new policemen are "just local traffic cops, etc., not the full
invstigative police officer of the U.S."

...or that regardless of their official purpose, that they may not find
themselves in situations which require much more training. Like being

shot
at because they're cooperating with our military. John seems to have
forgotten that insurgents have blown up a couple of Iraqi police

stations
recently.




They probably spent at least 3 days on just that. Avoiding being blown

up.
Give some credit to these people. Most probably were former military, and
all have been around people shooting people for a long time. They are not
stupid! Are you so racist, that you give no credit for brains to an

Iraqi?
Bill


You missed the point. I think we're going to start doing certain things "on
the cheap", quick and dirty, just to get the hell out of Iraq before things
get any uglier than they are now. You know why we're going to do this.


Let's be honest, Doug. Isn't your *point* that there is something
wrong with anything "good" that is accomplished while the current
administration is in power?

How much training do you think we should give them? NCO's with over 20
years experience have been killed. so obviously it must require more
than 20 years training.

The fact is that every one of these guys gainfully employed is one
less running in the streets or shooting mortar rounds at whatever they
can hit.

Stop being a Harry suck up. It's unbecoming to one with your
intellect.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Doug Kanter January 27th 04 09:18 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
"John H" wrote in message
...


Stop being a Harry suck up. It's unbecoming to one with your
intellect.

John H


Hey. Quit being a pain in the ass, or I'm gonna put you on my Bad List. :-)



Don White January 27th 04 09:24 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
So you're actually going to pay this group are you. Not too long ago a lot
of the new troops were quitting because they
weren't getting that payday as promised.
If I was the new guys I'd demand cash....considering the way George W is
putting the US into hock, his cheques could bounce at any time.

John H wrote in message
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The fact is that every one of these guys gainfully employed is one
less running in the streets or shooting mortar rounds at whatever they
can hit.

Stop being a Harry suck up. It's unbecoming to one with your
intellect.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




Harry Krause January 27th 04 09:56 PM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
John H wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:31:57 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
rthlink.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
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snipped miles of drivel

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:%PkRb.28175
Hell, basic training during the Viet Nam war was only 6 weeks.

These
are
just local traffic cops, etc. Not the full investigative police
officer
of
the US. But Harry and Doug knew this and just like to spew garbage.

Speaking of spewing garbage, please provide any shred of evidence that
these new policemen are "just local traffic cops, etc., not the full
invstigative police officer of the U.S."

...or that regardless of their official purpose, that they may not find
themselves in situations which require much more training. Like being

shot
at because they're cooperating with our military. John seems to have
forgotten that insurgents have blown up a couple of Iraqi police

stations
recently.




They probably spent at least 3 days on just that. Avoiding being blown

up.
Give some credit to these people. Most probably were former military, and
all have been around people shooting people for a long time. They are not
stupid! Are you so racist, that you give no credit for brains to an

Iraqi?
Bill


You missed the point. I think we're going to start doing certain things "on
the cheap", quick and dirty, just to get the hell out of Iraq before things
get any uglier than they are now. You know why we're going to do this.


Let's be honest, Doug. Isn't your *point* that there is something
wrong with anything "good" that is accomplished while the current
administration is in power?

How much training do you think we should give them? NCO's with over 20
years experience have been killed. so obviously it must require more
than 20 years training.

The fact is that every one of these guys gainfully employed is one
less running in the streets or shooting mortar rounds at whatever they
can hit.

Stop being a Harry suck up. It's unbecoming to one with your
intellect.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



Really, John? Hmmm. Are you now stating our intel has improved so much
that we can tell one Iraqi from another, in terrorist tendencies?

Doubtful.

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John H January 28th 04 02:40 AM

A little OT good news for a snowy Monday!
 
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:18:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .


Stop being a Harry suck up. It's unbecoming to one with your
intellect.

John H


Hey. Quit being a pain in the ass, or I'm gonna put you on my Bad List. :-)


OK!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


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