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Jeff Zimmerman January 25th 04 06:35 PM

antifouling paint help
 
My friend and I recently purchased a 1970 slickcraft. The bottom of
the boat has this nasty blueish green antifouling paint on it (a
couple of layers I think). In the spring we are looking to repaint it.
I ordered a couple of cans of black antifouling paint from ebay.

I'm looking for some advice on how to do it...

does the old stuff have to be sanded off?

whats the best way to do it with it on the trailer?
we were thinking about sliding it back on the trailer alittle,
painting what we could then sliding it forward to get the rest.

does it have to be brushed on, or can it be sprayed?

we were also thinking about repainting the outdrive, does that have to
be antifouling paint as well?

FishFan January 26th 04 12:13 AM

antifouling paint help
 
(Jeff Zimmerman) wrote in message . com...
My friend and I recently purchased a 1970 slickcraft. The bottom of
the boat has this nasty blueish green antifouling paint on it (a
couple of layers I think). In the spring we are looking to repaint it.
I ordered a couple of cans of black antifouling paint from ebay.

I'm looking for some advice on how to do it...

does the old stuff have to be sanded off?

whats the best way to do it with it on the trailer?
we were thinking about sliding it back on the trailer alittle,
painting what we could then sliding it forward to get the rest.

does it have to be brushed on, or can it be sprayed?

we were also thinking about repainting the outdrive, does that have to
be antifouling paint as well?


Well, start with the directions on the can of whatever mystery paint
you bought. As far as the hull - Yes, scrape and sand the old stuff,
making sure you get off any loose stuff. Getting it completely off the
trailer is preferable, but your plan will work as well.

DON'T paint the outdrive with a bottom paint containing COPPER!!! Its
will spell the end of the outdrive. Splurge for an outdrive paint
meant for Aluminum such as Tri-Lux. Just about any outboard paint
will work on outdrives.

Last comment - Buy coveralls and dishwashing gloves; and wear a hat
and goggles. Bottom paint is nasty stuff!

FishFan

jchaplain January 26th 04 01:33 AM

antifouling paint help
 
If you're going to remove anti-fouling paint by yourself, don't dry
sand it. The dust will be real toxic.
Cover yourself well and wet sand it off and /or use a pressure washer
to remove it. I once did the job with wet 3m cloth and it was a messy
hard job, but only took a few hours.

John C.

Gary Warner January 26th 04 06:48 AM

antifouling paint help
 
Stop.

Bottom paint is expensive and a real pain to take off the old and
put on the new. It's not worth doing wrong (not many things are.)

The type of paint you put on over the old has to be compatible
or it won't work. Also the type of paint you choose to use
needs to match where you will use your boat and how
you will use it. (Will it be in the water all the time or trailered,
etc.)

Interlux puts out a nice little book titled "Boat Painting Guide &
Color Card." You can usually find one laying around the paint
isles of West Marine or Boat US. Can also find the
information at www.yachtpaint.com and probably a bunch
of other places on the web. Doesn't mean you have to buy
Interlux - but it will explain the different types.

It's a little confusing to get your head around all the options, but
I think it's well worth your time to get the right paint. Maybe
what you already have is fine - but why take all the time to
scrape off the old and put on the new - if it might be the wrong
stuff for you?

I just happen to have two copies of the Interlux book. If you do
want to read it I'd be happy to send/give you one - send me
an email.


For my boat I choose the Micron CSC. Reasons:

-- I'm usually trailering so don't need super-duper "bio-lux" and
other fancy protection, just the basics.

-- Usually boating in the cooler waters of the northeast, so again
will not get lots of growth.

-- Still, there may be times I'll be in for a few weeks - and want to
minimize some growth.

-- Paint can be applied over my old paint. I still scrapped most of
the bottom to pretty much bare wood. But wanted something that
would work OK where I didn't get it all.

-- Dry time before launch is indefinite. Some paints have to get wet
within a certain time period of painting. I knew in our case it might
set a long time after painting.

-- Paint does not loose protective ability when out of water. Some
paints loose their anit-fouling ability when out of water for long
periods of time. Since we're trailering, only using some weekends,
and out all winter - that just wouldn't do for us.

-- More coates = more protection AND it's ok to do just a basic
clean and then add more coats.

But your situation may be different...lots of choices in bottom paint.



Jeff Zimmerman January 26th 04 02:07 PM

antifouling paint help
 
"Gary Warner" wrote in message ...
Stop.

Bottom paint is expensive and a real pain to take off the old and
put on the new. It's not worth doing wrong (not many things are.)

The type of paint you put on over the old has to be compatible
or it won't work. Also the type of paint you choose to use
needs to match where you will use your boat and how
you will use it. (Will it be in the water all the time or trailered,
etc.)

Interlux puts out a nice little book titled "Boat Painting Guide &
Color Card." You can usually find one laying around the paint
isles of West Marine or Boat US. Can also find the
information at www.yachtpaint.com and probably a bunch
of other places on the web. Doesn't mean you have to buy
Interlux - but it will explain the different types.

It's a little confusing to get your head around all the options, but
I think it's well worth your time to get the right paint. Maybe
what you already have is fine - but why take all the time to
scrape off the old and put on the new - if it might be the wrong
stuff for you?

I just happen to have two copies of the Interlux book. If you do
want to read it I'd be happy to send/give you one - send me
an email.


I had a feeling I should have looked into it more before buying off
ebay, the paint I got was "PETTIT MARINE PAINT. #1810 BLACK" general
purpose antifouling paint.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEBWN%3AIT

We are going to be using the boat in Lake Erie and allegheny resovoir
(sp?), and it's going to be trailered. will this paint work?

Gary Warner January 26th 04 06:44 PM

antifouling paint help
 

"Jeff Zimmerman" wrote in message

I had a feeling I should have looked into it more before buying off
ebay, the paint I got was "PETTIT MARINE PAINT. #1810 BLACK" general
purpose antifouling paint.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=26455
&item=2454353757&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWN%3AIT

We are going to be using the boat in Lake Erie and allegheny resovoir
(sp?), and it's going to be trailered. will this paint work?


Jeff,

Contraty to what it may seem from my erlier post, I'm just a novice at this
too.
What I did find is:

The relevent Pettit web page seems to be:
http://www.pettitpaint.com/products2...d=1&SubCatid=1

It says about your paint:
A high performance economy antifouling paint which has been custom
formulated to provide outstanding bottom protection at a very affordable
price. Unepoxy Plus is a modified epoxy that dries to a hard finish able to
withstand season-long use and abuse. It has excellent adhesion to
fiberglass, wood and properly primed steel hulls and is compatible over most
previously applied bottom paints. Compared to other traditional modified
epoxy antifoulants, Unepoxy Plus has more copper for the dollar making it
the right choice for the value conscious boat owner. Unepoxy is available in
five popular colors.

Poke some more around that www.pettitPaint.com site and it will probably
tell you lots about that paint.

Good Luck,
Gary







Boots Crofoot January 26th 04 09:57 PM

antifouling paint help
 
If your boat is going on and off a trailer make sure the
bottom paint is a hard one that can be use on a trailer boat
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Zimmerman" wrote in message

I had a feeling I should have looked into it more before

buying off
ebay, the paint I got was "PETTIT MARINE PAINT. #1810

BLACK" general
purpose antifouling paint.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=26455
&item=2454353757&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWN%3AIT

We are going to be using the boat in Lake Erie and

allegheny resovoir
(sp?), and it's going to be trailered. will this paint

work?


Jeff,

Contraty to what it may seem from my erlier post, I'm just a
novice at this
too.
What I did find is:

The relevent Pettit web page seems to be:
http://www.pettitpaint.com/products2...d=1&SubCatid=1

It says about your paint:
A high performance economy antifouling paint which has been
custom
formulated to provide outstanding bottom protection at a
very affordable
price. Unepoxy Plus is a modified epoxy that dries to a hard
finish able to
withstand season-long use and abuse. It has excellent
adhesion to
fiberglass, wood and properly primed steel hulls and is
compatible over most
previously applied bottom paints. Compared to other
traditional modified
epoxy antifoulants, Unepoxy Plus has more copper for the
dollar making it
the right choice for the value conscious boat owner. Unepoxy
is available in
five popular colors.

Poke some more around that www.pettitPaint.com site and it
will probably
tell you lots about that paint.

Good Luck,
Gary








JDavis1277 January 27th 04 01:50 PM

antifouling paint help
 
Guess some folks who trailer(verb?) a boat leave it in the water long enough
for the bottom to foul. I used to store my boat on a trailer for the winter
simply because I had a trailer. Kept the boat in a wet slip during the boating
season. Of course bottom paint was a requirement.

Wonder how many folks go to the trouble and expense of applying bottom paint
when they don't need it.

Butch

Boots wrote: If your boat is going on and off a trailer make sure the
bottom paint is a hard one that can be use on a trailer boat





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