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It is not a one size fits all situation. Iraq and Iran are
different animals. However, we did try the diplomatic
route in Iraq, similar to what we are doing in Iran, prior
to the invasion.

Sometimes diplomacy and discussions work, sometimes not.
They did not work with Iraq. They may work with Iran.

So what is your point Jim?



Did you forget that last week Bush declined to join the
Europeans in negotiations. He was going to be the lone
Cowboy who did things HIS way?



No I do not remember. I am not saying you are wrong, but
perhaps you can provide a link.

Regardless, what is wrong with him deciding to join in with
Europe in the negotiations? You see this as a bad thing?

Convienent memory! --


No, I simply did not remember. Why the slam?








I see this as a good thing, but last week it was a bad thing.
The question asked was "is this a flip or a flop?


Nope, things change, especially when dealing with international
politics.

Would you rather that a President have one and only one way to
deal with other Countries?



From your favorite news source






http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148304,00.html

"The United States has refused to get involved in the
bargaining with Tehran or to make commitments about
incentives, insisting that Tehran abandon its program."


Thank you for the link. And what makes you think that Fox is
my favorite news source? Just because I am a political
conservative? Again, another attempted slam on your part. Can
you discuss things without the attempted personal attacks
Jimcomma?

OK -- what IS your favorite news source? Tell the world.


I don't have a favorite. Why do I have to?








http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N03564569.htm

Supporting Europe on the incentives would mark a significant
shift in strategy for Bush, who has been reluctant to consider
them before to avoid being seen as rewarding Iran for bad
behavior.


Great. Bush is doing good....eh?

I'll give him this one






During his first term Bush branded Iran part of an "axis of
evil," along with North Korea and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.


Nothing has changed. Your point is?

Now maybe we should negotiate with N Korea?


We already are.








And Tehran has been an antagonist of Washington since the 1979
Iranian revolution and the seizure that year of more than 60
hostages in the U.S. Embassy in a crisis that lasted 444 days.



Correct. And that would include Carter and Clinton during
those years, as it would Bush Sr and Jr, and Reagan

Your point is?



The question asked was "is this a flip or a flop? Bush made a
big issue of flip flopping during the campaign.


No it was not a flip flop. One *has* to remain flexible when
dealing with international politics. One has to, however, remain
true to their core beliefs.

Bush has, remained consistent with his core beliefs, including
with the war on terror, fixing social security, fixing the tax
code, abortion, tort reform and believing that forceful action
will sometimes be called for in his dealing with other countries.

Kerry on the other hand changed his core beliefs on abortion,

Pro Choice --
http://www.issues2000.org/2004/John_Kerry_Abortion.htm

the war on terror,
He was deceived by Bush, rice, et all
troop funding,
Again deceived


Bull**** and a lame excuse.







ANWAR,
Evidence please As I understand, he has always been against
drilling.



http://www.nojohnkerry.org/kerryhtml...lops.htm#ANWAR







http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ry-nafta_x.htm


welfare reform,
http://www.issues2000.org/2004/John_..._+_Poverty.htm



the death penalty
Not so
http://deadlinethemovie.com/blog/joh...th_penalty.php
the Patriot Act,

Agreed


affirmative action
See http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0403090827.asp
....and on and on and on.


Go to this link for other support of my claims on his flip flops.

http://www.nojohnkerry.org/kerryhtml/flipflops.htm

The fact remains that Kerry constantly changed his core beliefs and
Bush hasn't.

Yes, Kerry deserved the title of flip flop king.

Suppose you can find an UNbiased, responsiblle source?


Yep, perhaps biased against Kerry. But what specifically is untrue
in what they say?



Didn't bother to read it --

I figured as much.





- find me something from Cnn, cnbc or even faux.

Find it yourself.



Oh, what the hell.

Here you go:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in646435.shtml

“We should not have gone to war knowing the information that we know
today," Kerry said Wednesday on ABC’s “Good Morning America.” "Knowing
there was no imminent threat to America, knowing there were no weapons of
mass destruction, knowing there was no connection of Saddam Hussein to al
Qaeda, I would not have gone to war. That's plain and simple."

Like (as?) I said -- he was deceived.



http://washingtontimes.com/national/...5616-3546r.htm

In that same speech, he vowed to round up all the unguarded nuclear
material in the world within four years, mainly through negotiations. In
another speech, Mr. Kerry promised to name a national coordinator to
combat bioterrorism.




http://mediamatters.org/items/200407060009 (includes clips from CNN)

While CNN considered these relatively innocuous comments a "classic"
flip-flop, the network has ignored much more significant "flip-flops" by
President George W. Bush. As just one example, in a June 22 article about
the Supreme Court's rejection of state laws that give patients in managed
care the right to sue insurance companies for damages, The New York Times
noted:



http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/waffles.asp

YASSER ARAFAT [07/14 09:52 AM]

FIRST HE SAID: "Terrorist organizations with specific political agendas
may be encouraged and emboldened by Yasser Arafat's transformation from
outlaw to statesman.... [Terrorists] whose only object is to disrupt
society require no such 'role models' as Arafat."

— The New War, by John Kerry, published June 1997

THEN HE SAID: "Obviously, Yasser Arafat has been an impediment to the
peace process... As far as I'm concerned, he's an outlaw to the peace
process."

— John Kerry, interview with the Associated Press, March 10, 2004

(A lot can happen in 7 years)


http://news.forum.publicradio.org/ar.../10/01/0553207

This is no more than a message board for partisan comments, by
individuals -- scroll down.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=40491

The apparent flip-flops were noted by the American Family Association, a
group battling against moves to establish same-sex marriage.

American Family Association -- yeaj! that's non biased!


Enough -- this is all pollitical BS.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1119904/posts

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/se...w.php?id=12261

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...4/835wicnq.asp

Hundreds more. It was easy. ;-)

Sure just look up all the heo-con comments



Deja Vu......So I ask again what information posted in those links was
not true? Who cares if they came from CNN, ABC or the Weekly
Standard....don't discredit the information because of the
source....discredit the information they posted.

I await your reply. ;-)

You can play the game any way you want -- google bush lies vs Kerry lies,
bush flip flops vs kerry flip flops. You can build a case either way.

Way up at the top of this is a question asking if Bushs' latest move is a
flip or a flop. Closest answer to date was Harry Kraus.


As usual, you did not answer my question but answered with a spin.

Once again:

So I ask again what information posted in those links was not
true? Who cares if they came from CNN, ABC or the Weekly Standard....don't
discredit the information because of the source....discredit the
information
they posted.

I await your reply. ;-)


Before I retired, I had a stamp made for most corporate announcements

"Ignored By (my name) That would be appropriate here

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It is not a one size fits all situation. Iraq and Iran
are different animals. However, we did try the
diplomatic route in Iraq, similar to what we are doing in
Iran, prior to the invasion.

Sometimes diplomacy and discussions work, sometimes not.
They did not work with Iraq. They may work with Iran.

So what is your point Jim?



Did you forget that last week Bush declined to join the
Europeans in negotiations. He was going to be the lone
Cowboy who did things HIS way?



No I do not remember. I am not saying you are wrong, but
perhaps you can provide a link.

Regardless, what is wrong with him deciding to join in with
Europe in the negotiations? You see this as a bad thing?

Convienent memory! --


No, I simply did not remember. Why the slam?








I see this as a good thing, but last week it was a bad
thing. The question asked was "is this a flip or a flop?


Nope, things change, especially when dealing with
international politics.

Would you rather that a President have one and only one way
to deal with other Countries?



From your favorite news source






http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148304,00.html

"The United States has refused to get involved in the
bargaining with Tehran or to make commitments about
incentives, insisting that Tehran abandon its program."


Thank you for the link. And what makes you think that Fox is
my favorite news source? Just because I am a political
conservative? Again, another attempted slam on your part.
Can you discuss things without the attempted personal attacks
Jimcomma?

OK -- what IS your favorite news source? Tell the world.


I don't have a favorite. Why do I have to?








http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N03564569.htm

Supporting Europe on the incentives would mark a significant
shift in strategy for Bush, who has been reluctant to
consider them before to avoid being seen as rewarding Iran
for bad behavior.


Great. Bush is doing good....eh?

I'll give him this one






During his first term Bush branded Iran part of an "axis of
evil," along with North Korea and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.


Nothing has changed. Your point is?

Now maybe we should negotiate with N Korea?


We already are.








And Tehran has been an antagonist of Washington since the
1979 Iranian revolution and the seizure that year of more
than 60 hostages in the U.S. Embassy in a crisis that lasted
444 days.



Correct. And that would include Carter and Clinton during
those years, as it would Bush Sr and Jr, and Reagan

Your point is?



The question asked was "is this a flip or a flop? Bush made a
big issue of flip flopping during the campaign.


No it was not a flip flop. One *has* to remain flexible when
dealing with international politics. One has to, however,
remain true to their core beliefs.

Bush has, remained consistent with his core beliefs, including
with the war on terror, fixing social security, fixing the tax
code, abortion, tort reform and believing that forceful action
will sometimes be called for in his dealing with other
countries.

Kerry on the other hand changed his core beliefs on abortion,

Pro Choice --
http://www.issues2000.org/2004/John_Kerry_Abortion.htm

the war on terror,
He was deceived by Bush, rice, et all
troop funding,
Again deceived


Bull**** and a lame excuse.







ANWAR,
Evidence please As I understand, he has always been against
drilling.



http://www.nojohnkerry.org/kerryhtml...lops.htm#ANWAR







http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ry-nafta_x.htm


welfare reform,
http://www.issues2000.org/2004/John_..._+_Poverty.htm



the death penalty
Not so
http://deadlinethemovie.com/blog/joh...th_penalty.php
the Patriot Act,

Agreed


affirmative action
See
http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0403090827.asp
....and on and on and on.


Go to this link for other support of my claims on his flip flops.

http://www.nojohnkerry.org/kerryhtml/flipflops.htm

The fact remains that Kerry constantly changed his core beliefs
and Bush hasn't.

Yes, Kerry deserved the title of flip flop king.

Suppose you can find an UNbiased, responsiblle source?


Yep, perhaps biased against Kerry. But what specifically is untrue
in what they say?



Didn't bother to read it --

I figured as much.





- find me something from Cnn, cnbc or even faux.

Find it yourself.



Oh, what the hell.

Here you go:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in646435.shtml

“We should not have gone to war knowing the information that we know
today," Kerry said Wednesday on ABC’s “Good Morning America.” "Knowing
there was no imminent threat to America, knowing there were no weapons
of mass destruction, knowing there was no connection of Saddam Hussein
to al Qaeda, I would not have gone to war. That's plain and simple."

Like (as?) I said -- he was deceived.



http://washingtontimes.com/national/...5616-3546r.htm

In that same speech, he vowed to round up all the unguarded nuclear
material in the world within four years, mainly through negotiations.
In another speech, Mr. Kerry promised to name a national coordinator to
combat bioterrorism.




http://mediamatters.org/items/200407060009 (includes clips from CNN)

While CNN considered these relatively innocuous comments a "classic"
flip-flop, the network has ignored much more significant "flip-flops"
by President George W. Bush. As just one example, in a June 22 article
about the Supreme Court's rejection of state laws that give patients in
managed care the right to sue insurance companies for damages, The New
York Times noted:



http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/waffles.asp

YASSER ARAFAT [07/14 09:52 AM]

FIRST HE SAID: "Terrorist organizations with specific political agendas
may be encouraged and emboldened by Yasser Arafat's transformation from
outlaw to statesman.... [Terrorists] whose only object is to disrupt
society require no such 'role models' as Arafat."

— The New War, by John Kerry, published June 1997

THEN HE SAID: "Obviously, Yasser Arafat has been an impediment to the
peace process... As far as I'm concerned, he's an outlaw to the peace
process."

— John Kerry, interview with the Associated Press, March 10, 2004

(A lot can happen in 7 years)


http://news.forum.publicradio.org/ar.../10/01/0553207

This is no more than a message board for partisan comments, by
individuals -- scroll down.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=40491

The apparent flip-flops were noted by the American Family Association,
a group battling against moves to establish same-sex marriage.

American Family Association -- yeaj! that's non biased!


Enough -- this is all pollitical BS.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1119904/posts

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/se...w.php?id=12261

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...4/835wicnq.asp

Hundreds more. It was easy. ;-)

Sure just look up all the heo-con comments



Deja Vu......So I ask again what information posted in those links was
not true? Who cares if they came from CNN, ABC or the Weekly
Standard....don't discredit the information because of the
source....discredit the information they posted.

I await your reply. ;-)

You can play the game any way you want -- google bush lies vs Kerry lies,
bush flip flops vs kerry flip flops. You can build a case either way.

Way up at the top of this is a question asking if Bushs' latest move is a
flip or a flop. Closest answer to date was Harry Kraus.


As usual, you did not answer my question but answered with a spin.

Once again:

So I ask again what information posted in those links was not
true? Who cares if they came from CNN, ABC or the Weekly
Standard....don't
discredit the information because of the source....discredit the
information
they posted.

I await your reply. ;-)


Before I retired, I had a stamp made for most corporate announcements

"Ignored By (my name) That would be appropriate here


So you cannot show that my links posted any incorrect information when
showing Kerry's flip flops. Ergo, as I alleged earlier the information was
correct. Ergo, as I alleged earlier Kerry flip flopped on his core values.

I agree.

Thanks.

All the best!

Thanks. ;-)

"'''' Tuukarrhea!.....that's a great label. Maybe you should coin that
phrase!""'''


ahhhh,,, the 1, 2, 3 punch must have got you there white,,, lol,,, and
confirmed accuracy,,, lol,,,

white,,, you sure you don't have a ring in your nose like a dumb bull??? I
just took you for a walk through the park,,, lol,,,, I bet you would be the
last butter jam tart left over on the tray at a party,,,, lol,,,, oooo
my,,,,,,,

definatly confirms number 3,,, you be a krause puppet for life,,,

You wouldn't happen to be sharpening his pencils,,, washing his car,,
painting his fence,,, or supplying him his prescription meds there from
Canada ,,, would you there white???? awful white of you there white,,, you
shinning his pipe also???










"Don White" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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You know, it just occurred to me. Perhaps Herring is suffering from
Tuukarrhea



Tuukarrhea!.....that's a great label. Maybe you should coin that phrase!

"JimH" wrote in message
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More childish personal attacks....more proof of my earlier claim that most
come from the left. Why not address the subject of this thread instead of
throwing out childish insults?

Now Jimmy...didn't you start a crusade to not call other posters names...and
here you are calling me/Harry or both 'childish'?
You can't control yourself and that's why I didn't sign on to your group
hug. BTW...it's best to lead by example....talk is cheap!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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It's a disease whose symptoms include getting everything wrong, running
off at the mouth, and facilitating morons. You think Herring suffers
from it?

I don't know why JohnH would even want to associate with someone unstable
like Tuuk. Wonder if he would take him for a ride in that fancy Mustang. I
doubt it.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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More childish personal attacks....more proof of my earlier claim that
most
come from the left. Why not address the subject of this thread instead
of
throwing out childish insults?

Now Jimmy...didn't you start a crusade to not call other posters
names...and
here you are calling me/Harry or both 'childish'?
You can't control yourself and that's why I didn't sign on to your group
hug. BTW...it's best to lead by example....talk is cheap!



I rest my case.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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It's a disease whose symptoms include getting everything wrong, running
off at the mouth, and facilitating morons. You think Herring suffers
from it?

I don't know why JohnH would even want to associate with someone unstable
like Tuuk. Wonder if he would take him for a ride in that fancy Mustang.
I
doubt it.



See your post in this thread from 11:21 p.m.

You and Harry once again proved my point.

Thank you and good night Don.

BTW: Grow up.

"JimH" wrote in message
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I rest my case.

You seem to resting a lot lately....from boating...from common
sense......integrity....etc.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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I rest my case.

You seem to resting a lot lately....from boating...from common
sense......integrity....etc.



Yes, I am resting from owning a boat for a while.

When will you rest from being an a-hole Don?

Don are you guilty of pig piling? ; )




"Don White" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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More childish personal attacks....more proof of my earlier claim that
most
come from the left. Why not address the subject of this thread instead
of
throwing out childish insults?

Now Jimmy...didn't you start a crusade to not call other posters
names...and
here you are calling me/Harry or both 'childish'?
You can't control yourself and that's why I didn't sign on to your group
hug. BTW...it's best to lead by example....talk is cheap!

"JimH" wrote in message
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When will you rest from being an a-hole Don?


Not as long as we have 'turds' in this newsgroup that need expelling.

"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
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Don are you guilty of pig piling? ; )



Even though I didn't sign on to JimH's bogus crusade, I still wouldn't call
him a 'pig'. ;-)

"JimH" wrote in message
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I am curious Don. When was the last time you contributed anything of
interest to this NG?



Since you don't boat Jim, I've probably never posted anything of interest to
you.

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Why bother with Hertvik at all, Don? Really. Just bozo bin him, along
with the rest of his ilk.


Right you are...It is silly trying to be rational with him.

"JimH" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Not as long as we have 'turds' in this newsgroup that need expelling.



I am curious Don. When was the last time you contributed anything of
interest to this NG?

Donny is projecting again.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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I am curious Don. When was the last time you contributed anything of
interest to this NG?



Since you don't boat Jim, I've probably never posted anything of interest
to
you.




I may not own a boat now but I certainly still boat.

The fact that I am without a boat right now really bothers you for some
strange reason Don as you need to continually bring it up.

LOL, I will have to remember that come back.


"Don White" wrote in message
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"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
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Don are you guilty of pig piling? ; )



Even though I didn't sign on to JimH's bogus crusade, I still wouldn't
call
him a 'pig'. ;-)

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Tuuk, of course, has his own filter. But I dump all of his posts,
including the headers, into a file I download every two weeks and copy
onto a CDR for my friendly neighborhood deputy sheriff. I think he's just
keeping them on file now, but I know with the first few, the guys at the
district were using them as training materials for recognizing on-line
psychotics. :}

Is your wife, the Dr. Dr. teaching the class?

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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snip...
Tuuk, of course, has his own filter. But I dump all of his posts,
including the headers, into a file I download every two weeks and copy
onto a CDR for my friendly neighborhood deputy sheriff. I think he's
just keeping them on file now, but I know with the first few, the guys
at the district were using them as training materials for recognizing
on-line psychotics. :}

snip....

Forgetting for a moment Tuuk's threats and on-line harassment of you, it's
what he does on a regular basis that should outrage
regular posters. I have seen time & time again, new posters come on asking
sensible questions. I'm assuming it's Tuuk...steals your identity and makes
idiotic responses to the new posts. Some may find this funny, but new blood
may be driven away by this foolishness. New members with legit concerns
deserve the best advice this group can offer.

Ya,,

Ok krause

you are a liar and your bozo buddy up the lane is laughing at you all day
long,,, lol,,

First he (assuming he is a he,, also assuming he is real) laughed at you as
your first wife ran away from you ,,, burning up the street,,

Second he laughed at you as your second wife ran away from you,,,

Third he laughed at you as your children ran to their mother,,,

Now he is laughing at you as you court one of your students,, a law student
20 years your junior,,,

Then he laughs at you as you stroll buy on your way to the upscale liquor
store,, then he laughs at you if he reads all your lies,,, lol,,,

krause,,, you are such a liar,, if this bozo cop buddy of yours was
receiving all these posts you claim to give him,, you think he would log
onto the group to see?? Then see all your lies?? then continue to even admit
he knows you??? lol,,, ouch,,, oooo ,, ooo my,,,, or is he just some pencil
pushing desk jockey coffee making donut eating clerk down at the cop shop,,,
lol,,, or is he just a figment of your imagination,,, that is my guess,,,
lol,,,

Come on krause,,, its sunday,,, give mom a call,, also call the care
people,, I know it is only the second sunday of the month but you and white
should authorize and pay for the care people to bath mom today and not wait
for the last sunday of the month every month,,, At least white stuffed his
in his basement,, doesn't want to blow any of that inheritance,,, krause
your mom had to run as far as she could afford away from you,,, I bet the
cop is laughing at you krause,,,

Did you tell the cop that you invited me to your home krause??? Then you
said you have hand guns upstairs and downstairs loaded and in the drawer?
Then you claimed a day later you didn't have these hand guns,, then you
claimed you have loaded shot guns in your front door closet and you like to
aim for the knees,,, lol,,, krause,,,, you are an idiot liar and I will
prove it... When I accept your invitation,, I will prove that you are just
an old toothless old senile old fool with nothing,, no family,,, lots of
meds,,, no boat,,, and krause,,, I am pleased to accept,, I wouldn't miss
this one for anything,,,, lol,,,,

Besides,, I want to hear all those comments you made about my sister ,, my
mother,, my people,,, lol,,, krause,, I cannot wait to see if you can make
those comments in person,,, so I accept your invitation,,,

Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa











"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Why bother with Hertvik at all, Don? Really. Just bozo bin him, along
with the rest of his ilk.



Right you are...It is silly trying to be rational with him.



Well, that's one reason.

There are a couple like him I haven't "bozo-binned" yet. Their responses
usually are so bizarre and off-the-wall that they harm their cause, and
therefore it is a bit of fun to watch them twist themselves in the wind.

Tuuk, of course, has his own filter. But I dump all of his posts,
including the headers, into a file I download every two weeks and copy
onto a CDR for my friendly neighborhood deputy sheriff. I think he's just
keeping them on file now, but I know with the first few, the guys at the
district were using them as training materials for recognizing on-line
psychotics. :}

Every couple of days, I look through the bozo-bin "log" to see which
inhabitants have been active again. I don't see the posts themselves, just
the basic header info. Hertvik is the most active, followed by Fritz and
whatever fake ID "Smithers" is using that day.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:53:19 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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snip...
Tuuk, of course, has his own filter. But I dump all of his posts,
including the headers, into a file I download every two weeks and copy
onto a CDR for my friendly neighborhood deputy sheriff. I think he's
just keeping them on file now, but I know with the first few, the guys
at the district were using them as training materials for recognizing
on-line psychotics. :}

snip....

Forgetting for a moment Tuuk's threats and on-line harassment of you, it's
what he does on a regular basis that should outrage
regular posters. I have seen time & time again, new posters come on asking
sensible questions. I'm assuming it's Tuuk...steals your identity and makes
idiotic responses to the new posts. Some may find this funny, but new blood
may be driven away by this foolishness. New members with legit concerns
deserve the best advice this group can offer.


Perhaps the best advice to offer would be, "Pay no attention to posts authored
by Harry Krause." That would cover everything, right?

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

How can filtering Harry Krause be detrimental to the NG?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
snip...

Tuuk, of course, has his own filter. But I dump all of his posts,
including the headers, into a file I download every two weeks and copy
onto a CDR for my friendly neighborhood deputy sheriff. I think he's
just keeping them on file now, but I know with the first few, the guys
at the district were using them as training materials for recognizing
on-line psychotics. :}


snip....

Forgetting for a moment Tuuk's threats and on-line harassment of you,
it's
what he does on a regular basis that should outrage
regular posters. I have seen time & time again, new posters come on
asking
sensible questions. I'm assuming it's Tuuk...steals your identity and
makes
idiotic responses to the new posts. Some may find this funny, but new
blood
may be driven away by this foolishness. New members with legit concerns
deserve the best advice this group can offer.



There are a couple of posters here so obsessed with me that they play
identity theft and try to pretend they are me. They do this for a couple
reasons, one of which, of course, is to clog up this newsgroup with so
many posts that appear as if they are coming from me that some posters
will just filter me out.

These jerks, all right-wingers, are determined to destroy what remains of
this newsgroup.

It can't. I have him filtered and the only time I see his crap is when
someone responds to it.

The funny thing is Harry Krause does not even accept the fact that he alone
ruined this NG several years ago and has to make it a political, blaming
only the right wing members here.


"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
How can filtering Harry Krause be detrimental to the NG?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
snip...

Tuuk, of course, has his own filter. But I dump all of his posts,
including the headers, into a file I download every two weeks and copy
onto a CDR for my friendly neighborhood deputy sheriff. I think he's
just keeping them on file now, but I know with the first few, the guys
at the district were using them as training materials for recognizing
on-line psychotics. :}


snip....

Forgetting for a moment Tuuk's threats and on-line harassment of you,
it's
what he does on a regular basis that should outrage
regular posters. I have seen time & time again, new posters come on
asking
sensible questions. I'm assuming it's Tuuk...steals your identity and
makes
idiotic responses to the new posts. Some may find this funny, but new
blood
may be driven away by this foolishness. New members with legit concerns
deserve the best advice this group can offer.



There are a couple of posters here so obsessed with me that they play
identity theft and try to pretend they are me. They do this for a couple
reasons, one of which, of course, is to clog up this newsgroup with so
many posts that appear as if they are coming from me that some posters
will just filter me out.

These jerks, all right-wingers, are determined to destroy what remains of
this newsgroup.

"JimH" wrote in message
...
It can't. I have him filtered and the only time I see his crap is when
someone responds to it.

The funny thing is Harry Krause does not even accept the fact that he
alone ruined this NG several years ago and has to make it political,
blaming only the right wing members here.


"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
How can filtering Harry Krause be detrimental to the NG?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
snip...

Tuuk, of course, has his own filter. But I dump all of his posts,
including the headers, into a file I download every two weeks and copy
onto a CDR for my friendly neighborhood deputy sheriff. I think he's
just keeping them on file now, but I know with the first few, the guys
at the district were using them as training materials for recognizing
on-line psychotics. :}


snip....

Forgetting for a moment Tuuk's threats and on-line harassment of you,
it's
what he does on a regular basis that should outrage
regular posters. I have seen time & time again, new posters come on
asking
sensible questions. I'm assuming it's Tuuk...steals your identity and
makes
idiotic responses to the new posts. Some may find this funny, but new
blood
may be driven away by this foolishness. New members with legit concerns
deserve the best advice this group can offer.



There are a couple of posters here so obsessed with me that they play
identity theft and try to pretend they are me. They do this for a couple
reasons, one of which, of course, is to clog up this newsgroup with so
many posts that appear as if they are coming from me that some posters
will just filter me out.

These jerks, all right-wingers, are determined to destroy what remains
of this newsgroup.

"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
How can filtering Harry Krause be detrimental to the NG?

Notice how harry has to keep changing his ID in order to be noticed?




"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
snip...

Tuuk, of course, has his own filter. But I dump all of his posts,
including the headers, into a file I download every two weeks and copy
onto a CDR for my friendly neighborhood deputy sheriff. I think he's
just keeping them on file now, but I know with the first few, the guys
at the district were using them as training materials for recognizing
on-line psychotics. :}


snip....

Forgetting for a moment Tuuk's threats and on-line harassment of you,
it's
what he does on a regular basis that should outrage
regular posters. I have seen time & time again, new posters come on
asking
sensible questions. I'm assuming it's Tuuk...steals your identity and
makes
idiotic responses to the new posts. Some may find this funny, but new
blood
may be driven away by this foolishness. New members with legit
concerns
deserve the best advice this group can offer.



There are a couple of posters here so obsessed with me that they play
identity theft and try to pretend they are me. They do this for a
couple
reasons, one of which, of course, is to clog up this newsgroup with so
many posts that appear as if they are coming from me that some posters
will just filter me out.

These jerks, all right-wingers, are determined to destroy what remains
of
this newsgroup.

""''''These jerks, all right-wingers, are determined to destroy what remains
of this newsgroup."''''''



krause,, you didn't leave much,,,










"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
snip...

Tuuk, of course, has his own filter. But I dump all of his posts,
including the headers, into a file I download every two weeks and copy
onto a CDR for my friendly neighborhood deputy sheriff. I think he's
just keeping them on file now, but I know with the first few, the guys
at the district were using them as training materials for recognizing
on-line psychotics. :}


snip....

Forgetting for a moment Tuuk's threats and on-line harassment of you,
it's
what he does on a regular basis that should outrage
regular posters. I have seen time & time again, new posters come on
asking
sensible questions. I'm assuming it's Tuuk...steals your identity and
makes
idiotic responses to the new posts. Some may find this funny, but new
blood
may be driven away by this foolishness. New members with legit concerns
deserve the best advice this group can offer.



There are a couple of posters here so obsessed with me that they play
identity theft and try to pretend they are me. They do this for a couple
reasons, one of which, of course, is to clog up this newsgroup with so
many posts that appear as if they are coming from me that some posters
will just filter me out.

These jerks, all right-wingers, are determined to destroy what remains of
this newsgroup.

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:21:13 -0500, "Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd."
wrote:

How can filtering Harry Krause be detrimental to the NG?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...

There are a couple of posters here so obsessed with me that they play
identity theft and try to pretend they are me. They do this for a couple
reasons, one of which, of course, is to clog up this newsgroup with so
many posts that appear as if they are coming from me that some posters
will just filter me out.

These jerks, all right-wingers, are determined to destroy what remains of
this newsgroup.




What a ****ing ego!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."