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( OT ) U.S. Quits Pact Used in Capital Cases
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U.S. Quits Pact Used in Capital Cases Foes of Death Penalty Cite Access to Envoys By Charles Lane Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, March 10, 2005; Page A01 The Bush administration has decided to pull out of an international agreement that opponents of the death penalty have used to fight the sentences of foreigners on death row in the United States, officials said yesterday. In a two-paragraph letter dated March 7, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice informed U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan that the United States "hereby withdraws" from the Optional Protocol to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. The United States proposed the protocol in 1963 and ratified it -- along with the rest of the Vienna Convention -- in 1969. The protocol requires signatories to let the International Court of Justice (ICJ) make the final decision when their citizens say they have been illegally denied the right to see a home-country diplomat when jailed abroad. The United States initially backed the measure as a means to protect its citizens abroad. It was also the first country to invoke the protocol before the ICJ, also known as the World Court, successfully suing Iran for the taking of 52 U.S. hostages in Tehran in 1979. But in recent years, other countries, with the support of U.S. opponents of capital punishment, successfully complained before the World Court that their citizens were sentenced to death by U.S. states without receiving access to diplomats from their home countries. The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear oral arguments March 28 in the case of a Mexican death row inmate in Texas who is asking the justices to enforce an ICJ decision in favor of Mexico last year. That case has attracted wide attention in Mexico and caused a diplomatic rift between the Bush administration and the government of Mexican President Vicente Fox. Rice is scheduled to meet with Fox today in Mexico in preparation for a summit meeting at President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Tex., later this month. The administration's decision does not affect the rest of the Vienna Convention, which requires its 166 signatories to inform foreigners of their right to see a home-country diplomat when detained overseas. But it shows that Washington's desire to counteract international pressure on the death penalty now weighs against a long-standing policy of ensuring the United States a forum in which to enforce its citizens' allegations of abuse. "The International Court of Justice has interpreted the Vienna Consular Convention in ways that we had not anticipated that involved state criminal prosecutions and the death penalty, effectively asking the court to supervise our domestic criminal system," State Department spokeswoman Darla Jordan said yesterday. Withdrawal from the protocol is a way of "protecting against future International Court of Justice judgments that might similarly interpret the consular convention or disrupt our domestic criminal system in ways we did not anticipate when we joined the convention," Jordan added. The administration's action comes after its Feb. 28 decision to grant 51 Mexicans on death row in Texas and elsewhere new state court hearings, as the ICJ had ordered. But withdrawal from the protocol means that the United States will not have to bow to the ICJ again, legal analysts said. Some said the decision would weaken both protections for U.S. citizens abroad and the idea of reciprocal obligation that the protocol embodied. "It's encouraging that the president wants to comply with the ICJ judgment" in the Mexicans' case, said Frederic L. Kirgis, a professor of international law at Washington and Lee University. "But it's discouraging that it's now saying we're taking our marbles and going home." The State Department, however, notes that fewer than 30 percent of the signatories to the Vienna Convention had agreed to the protocol. Among those that had not done so are Spain, Brazil and Canada, officials said. Bush's decision to enforce the ICJ judgment in the case of the Mexicans "should ensure that our withdrawal is not interpreted as an indication that we will not fulfill our international obligations," said Jordan of the State Department. Meanwhile, the president's decision has thrown the Supreme Court case regarding the Mexicans into limbo. Some legal analysts suggest the case may now be moot. Attorneys for Jose Ernesto Medellin, a convicted murderer on death row in Texas who is seeking review of his assertion that a lack of consular access harmed his case at trial, have asked the justices to put the case on hold until after Medellin has had his hearing in Texas state court. The Texas attorney general's office, meanwhile, issued a statement Tuesday saying, "We respectfully believe" that the president's decision "exceeds constitutional bounds for federal authority." |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim, wrote: washingtonpost.com U.S. Quits Pact Used in Capital Cases Foes of Death Penalty Cite Access to Envoys By Charles Lane Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, March 10, 2005; Page A01 The Bush administration has decided to pull out of an international agreement that opponents of the death penalty have used to fight the sentences of foreigners on death row in the United States, officials said yesterday. In a two-paragraph letter dated March 7, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice informed U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan that the United States "hereby withdraws" from the Optional Protocol to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. The United States proposed the protocol in 1963 and ratified it -- along with the rest of the Vienna Convention -- in 1969. Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? |
"NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? What year did you say you were born?? |
"NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Yes, one good thing for sure........My daughter was born Feb. 13th 1965. She is the best thing to come out of the 60's. My daughter, Andrea, is now a senior director of a large Canadian Bank. She is a great success and she makes me a proud papa...... Jim Carter "The Boat" Bayfield |
"Don White" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? What year did you say you were born?? '71 |
"Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Yes, one good thing for sure........My daughter was born Feb. 13th 1965. She is the best thing to come out of the 60's. OK...besides your daughter. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim Carter wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Yes, one good thing for sure........My daughter was born Feb. 13th 1965. She is the best thing to come out of the 60's. My daughter, Andrea, is now a senior director of a large Canadian Bank. She is a great success and she makes me a proud papa...... Jim Carter "The Boat" Bayfield My wife was born in the 1960s. She's sure good. She must be a saint to have married you. |
NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim, wrote: washingtonpost.com U.S. Quits Pact Used in Capital Cases Foes of Death Penalty Cite Access to Envoys By Charles Lane Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, March 10, 2005; Page A01 The Bush administration has decided to pull out of an international agreement that opponents of the death penalty have used to fight the sentences of foreigners on death row in the United States, officials said yesterday. In a two-paragraph letter dated March 7, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice informed U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan that the United States "hereby withdraws" from the Optional Protocol to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. The United States proposed the protocol in 1963 and ratified it -- along with the rest of the Vienna Convention -- in 1969. Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Oh, come on. Surely you can't be THAT narrow minded.....can you? |
"NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Yes, one good thing for sure........My daughter was born Feb. 13th 1965. She is the best thing to come out of the 60's. OK...besides your daughter. Well, the lady that I am now dating was born in 1963. She is damn good! Jim Carter "The Boat" Bayfield |
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"NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim Carter wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Yes, one good thing for sure........My daughter was born Feb. 13th 1965. She is the best thing to come out of the 60's. My daughter, Andrea, is now a senior director of a large Canadian Bank. She is a great success and she makes me a proud papa...... Jim Carter "The Boat" Bayfield My wife was born in the 1960s. She's sure good. She must be a saint to have married you. Or brain dead |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:58:10 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Yes, one good thing for sure........My daughter was born Feb. 13th 1965. She is the best thing to come out of the 60's. OK...besides your daughter. Ford Mustangs! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... Ford Mustangs! -- John H In 1964 I owned a gold colored Plymouth Barracuda Formula S. In 1968 I owned a green colored Formula S. Both were "Mustang Killers" at the local drag strip. Loved 'em...... Jim Carter |
"Jim Carter" wrote in message ... In 1964 I owned a gold colored Plymouth Barracuda Formula S. In 1968 I owned a green colored Formula S. Both were "Mustang Killers" at the local drag strip. Loved 'em...... Jim Carter My first car was a 1962 Morris 850 station wagon. (woody wagon version of Mr. Bean's car) I also had a 1963 Pontiac Parisienne 4 door sedan, and a 1967 Honda CB160 motorcycle. i have fond memories of all three. The music from the '60s was 'the best'. |
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:02:56 GMT, "Don White"
wrote: The music from the '60s was 'the best'. ================================= I certainly agree with that. |
"''''My wife was born in the 1960s. She's sure good""'"""'
which wife is that krause??? wife number one?? who littered your children?? who left you and the children left you also just as YOU YOURSELF reported? promising never to associate with you? Or your second wife krause,,, the one with the drug problem. Funny, she never did have the drug problem until she met you,,, or is it the third wife there krause,, the one 20 years your junior. The one returning to school because she really wasn't focusing on the books the first time, more fun to party I guess. Failing school the first couple times is very common I hear. At least she had fun,, nobody said she was too bright,, I mean she did marry you. Tell me krause ,, who swallows more meds,, you or her?? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim Carter wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Yes, one good thing for sure........My daughter was born Feb. 13th 1965. She is the best thing to come out of the 60's. My daughter, Andrea, is now a senior director of a large Canadian Bank. She is a great success and she makes me a proud papa...... Jim Carter "The Boat" Bayfield My wife was born in the 1960s. She's sure good. |
"'"""Actually, she was a saint when I married her. Since then, she has
transcended sainthood and has achieved higher office, whatever that is."""""" So what you're saying krause is she skirtted her way to higher office? What the president?? lol,,, krause,, your too much,, about what time of the day do you come down from this dream world you live in?? lol,, So your wife isn't the same little darling she was when you married her,,, lol,,, I bet your first two wives had the same transcending,,,lol,,, doesn't take them long even they are a little slow to begin with. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim Carter wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Yes, one good thing for sure........My daughter was born Feb. 13th 1965. She is the best thing to come out of the 60's. My daughter, Andrea, is now a senior director of a large Canadian Bank. She is a great success and she makes me a proud papa...... Jim Carter "The Boat" Bayfield My wife was born in the 1960s. She's sure good. She must be a saint to have married you. Actually, she was a saint when I married her. Since then, she has transcended sainthood and has achieved higher office, whatever that is. |
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you are an idiot,, You are claiming that Nixon the better republican?? lol,,, krause ,, ouch,, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Wasn't Nixon the leader of the plumbers?? Wasn't he caught lying?? lol,, I see the attraction. Didn't he dishonorably step down?? lol,, krause,,, you and Nixon do share a lot in common. Are you off your meds already ??? gees,, didn't take long today,, your knees must be achy today,, "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim, wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Jim, wrote: wrote: NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Jim, wrote: washingtonpost.com U.S. Quits Pact Used in Capital Cases Foes of Death Penalty Cite Access to Envoys By Charles Lane Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, March 10, 2005; Page A01 The Bush administration has decided to pull out of an international agreement that opponents of the death penalty have used to fight the sentences of foreigners on death row in the United States, officials said yesterday. In a two-paragraph letter dated March 7, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice informed U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan that the United States "hereby withdraws" from the Optional Protocol to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. The United States proposed the protocol in 1963 and ratified it -- along with the rest of the Vienna Convention -- in 1969. Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Oh, come on. Surely you can't be THAT narrow minded.....can you? The United States *proposed* the protocol in 1963 and ratified it -- along with the rest of the Vienna Convention -- in 1969. Let's see 1969 -- Wasn't their a *REPUBLICAN* in the White House? Nixon was a smart Republican, unlike the current Republican. Don't forget Hew was *NOT* a crook either. In retrospect, whatever Nixon did was far less harmful to this country than the crap Bush is pulling. |
NOYB wrote: "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message .net... Did *anything* good come out of the 60's? Yes, one good thing for sure........My daughter was born Feb. 13th 1965. She is the best thing to come out of the 60's. OK...besides your daughter. Here are a few: Telstar (first communications satellite) Unix operating system, for use on ARPANET, you know, the internet? Xerox Copier First manned earth orbit Unimation, the first industrial robot Rubella vaccine The Silent Spring by Rachel Ruben, warning of dangers of pesticides like DDT First Human organ transplant. Fiber optics were developed. IBM releases OS/360, the first mass produced computer operating system M.I.T. launches computer time sharing The computer mouse. D.E.C. introduces the PDP-8 the first mini-computer. Solid State radar Texas Instruments uses semi-conductors in applications for consumer use. The list goes on. |
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 03:23:38 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:02:56 GMT, "Don White" wrote: The music from the '60s was 'the best'. ================================= I certainly agree with that. Go check this out: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1960s Lots of good sounds there. I'm trying to build a collection of the top 40 for each of the 60's years. Gotta have something to play in that new Mustang. (The new CD player plays MP3 files.) -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:02:56 GMT, "Don White" wrote: The music from the '60s was 'the best'. ================================= I certainly agree with that. Oh god. A BeeGee's lover. Actually the late 50'sand early 60's is my preferred. |
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