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Isn't there a boat NG around here?
Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized,
by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Since you don't seem to have much interest in boats,why don't you summertime boaties form a new group like rec.boats.fuk'em.lets.talk.politics Don |
AMEN!
"Don" wrote in message news:JnPXd.625000$Xk.558307@pd7tw3no... Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized, by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Since you don't seem to have much interest in boats,why don't you summertime boaties form a new group like rec.boats.fuk'em.lets.talk.politics Don |
Bravo!
I agree 110% "Don" wrote in message news:JnPXd.625000$Xk.558307@pd7tw3no... Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized, by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Since you don't seem to have much interest in boats,why don't you summertime boaties form a new group like rec.boats.fuk'em.lets.talk.politics Don |
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 20:46:37 -0800, jps wrote:
In article JnPXd.625000$Xk.558307@pd7tw3no, says... Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized, by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Since you don't seem to have much interest in boats,why don't you summertime boaties form a new group like rec.boats.fuk'em.lets.talk.politics Don My dick IS bigger than yours! Somewhere I read that the size of one's "member" was inversely proportional to the size of one's intellect. FWIW Dave |
Go over to Rec.Boats.Cruising
It hasn't been molested yet...well, not entirely. |
Go over to Rec.Boats.Cruising
It hasn't been molested yet...well, not entirely. |
On 10 Mar 2005 04:44:03 -0800, "Tim" wrote:
Go over to Rec.Boats.Cruising It hasn't been molested yet...well, not entirely. Deja vue all over again all over again!! :) Later, Tom |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:43:37 GMT, Don wrote:
Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized, by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Since you don't seem to have much interest in boats,why don't you summertime boaties form a new group like rec.boats.fuk'em.lets.talk.politics ================= Good idea but I doubt it will happen. The captive audience effect would be lost and what fun would that be? What did happen over the years, with a fair amount of success, is that boating sub groups have been spawned for subjects like boat building, racing, cruising and electronics. It is a two edged sword however since that has siphoned off a great deal of the "On Topic" threads from here. For someone with the ambition and know how, some possible new sub groups might be "rec.boats.engines", "rec.boats.fishing", "rec.boats.maintenance", "rec.boats.repair", "rec.boats.purchasing", etc. That would further splinter the discussions and probably leave this group with nothing but "Off Topic" which is where it is already headed of course. |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:18 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:43:37 GMT, Don wrote: Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized, by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Since you don't seem to have much interest in boats,why don't you summertime boaties form a new group like rec.boats.fuk'em.lets.talk.politics ================= Good idea but I doubt it will happen. The captive audience effect would be lost and what fun would that be? What did happen over the years, with a fair amount of success, is that boating sub groups have been spawned for subjects like boat building, racing, cruising and electronics. It is a two edged sword however since that has siphoned off a great deal of the "On Topic" threads from here. For someone with the ambition and know how, some possible new sub groups might be "rec.boats.engines", "rec.boats.fishing", "rec.boats.maintenance", "rec.boats.repair", "rec.boats.purchasing", etc. That would further splinter the discussions and probably leave this group with nothing but "Off Topic" which is where it is already headed of course. To be honest Wayne, Usenet has become nonrelevant to anything. There are so many more forums, special interest forums and with the current spate of blogs, enough ways to get information out and across without using Usenet. I've been to the other groups, one in particular, and they are as involved in OT as this one is. I don't mind the occasionally OT - they can be fun and enjoyable if everybody stays civil. I've been around Usenet long enough to understand that it's almost an impossible task. Back when TCP/IP was still being developed and the basics of Usenet were first evolving (email lists) there was general agreement that off topic arguments were to be moved to personal email - everybody generally stuck to that even when the system came into wide use. It really wasn't until 94/95 and the first OT stuff started appearing (politics again) and it generally devolved to the mess you have now because those who participate in OT don't have the discipline to keep it off the newsgroups. It's unfortunate because it is the one medium in which information can receive wide dessemination. Later, Tom |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:17:22 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: it generally devolved to the mess you have now because those who participate in OT don't have the discipline to keep it off the newsgroups. ===================== That's about right. I've been in and out of wretched.boats since the early 90s and it has always been a bit over the top for various reasons. Surprisingly enough, you can still get good answers here if you ask the right questions and sort through the responses. |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:14:22 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: I rarely strongly disagree with those offering useful opinions on boating who actually know what they are talking about and have some knowledge or experience. And I do not have a vile temper. ================================ "Useful" is a subjective judgement of course, and to a certain extent knowledge and expertise. Vile temper is something else again, but there is no question regarding vile response. We all know that name calling begets name calling, and most of us know that reasonable people can disagree without being disagreeable. |
"Don" wrote in message news:JnPXd.625000$Xk.558307@pd7tw3no... Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized, by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Since you don't seem to have much interest in boats,why don't you summertime boaties form a new group like rec.boats.fuk'em.lets.talk.politics Don Easy Don. It is true that for some reason, this group attracts those interested in disrupting this boating group. It is mostly those who's political rants and opinions would be diced to ribbons in a "real" political group, so they stay here, fueling their own self-importance. They are also too dumb to know how Usenet works. Just set up a kill file, and some filters...its works very well, and is easy to do, and you will end up with a nice list of boating related threads, without all the OTs, attacks, trolls, and lies, that the double-digit idiots spew here. Good luck. -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:13:19 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: One or two of these helpful souls shows up once in a while, but the others were chased off by the vile temper of one particular poster. =================== Not really fair or entirely accurate IMHO, but the poster from under has certainly been over zealous, no question. With all due respect Harry, you have done way more than your share to make wretched.boats what it is. Thats for sure. Our village idiot Krause has been the number one offender for quite some time. Aside from his ridiculous lies, attacks, and off-topic posts, he is personally responsible for well over half of the garbage here. I find it absolutely outrageous he would even think to claim anybody else is as "vile" as him. That is why I urge all to simply kill file him. Wayne, you actually add to the garbage by responding to ignorant troll...let him go...he's not worth it. -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:48:23 -0500, "Netsock" wrote:
That is why I urge all to simply kill file him. Wayne, you actually add to the garbage by responding to ignorant troll...let him go...he's not worth it. =================== Garbage is in the eye of the beholder but I (and you) have just as much right to throw it on the table as anyone else. I actually like Harry in many respects and would rather try to gently reform him than to kill file. I only kill file those who never post on topic. Frankly, you might be a candidate if not for the cool pictures of your jet boat. Why not post something about it once in a while? |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:00:27 -0500, NetSlut
wrote: Of course, when I post here as Harry Krause, it shows I really am obsessed by him. ============== As are many others. What makes you so special other than your penchant for creative pseudonyms and usenet clutter? |
Harry,
Isn't this the "Identity Theft" you made a major fuss about? While I know it is not Identity Theft, you seem to have a double standard in all facets of your life. Some people think it is a common fault of liberals. "NetSlut" wrote in message ... Netsock wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:13:19 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: One or two of these helpful souls shows up once in a while, but the others were chased off by the vile temper of one particular poster. =================== Not really fair or entirely accurate IMHO, but the poster from under has certainly been over zealous, no question. With all due respect Harry, you have done way more than your share to make wretched.boats what it is. Thats for sure. Our village idiot Krause has been the number one offender for quite some time. Aside from his ridiculous lies, attacks, and off-topic posts, he is personally responsible for well over half of the garbage here. I find it absolutely outrageous he would even think to claim anybody else is as "vile" as him. That is why I urge all to simply kill file him. Wayne, you actually add to the garbage by responding to ignorant troll...let him go...he's not worth it. Of course, when I post here as Harry Krause, it shows I really am obsessed by him. |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:13:02 -0500, "Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd."
wrote: Some people think it is a common fault of liberals. ======================================= It's about time someone turned this into a political thread. What took you so long? |
Wayne,
Since this was a thread concerning how this NG is about politics, it only seem natural. "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:13:02 -0500, "Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote: Some people think it is a common fault of liberals. ======================================= It's about time someone turned this into a political thread. What took you so long? |
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:48:23 -0500, "Netsock" wrote: That is why I urge all to simply kill file him. Wayne, you actually add to the garbage by responding to ignorant troll...let him go...he's not worth it. =================== Garbage is in the eye of the beholder but I (and you) have just as much right to throw it on the table as anyone else. I actually like Harry in many respects and would rather try to gently reform him than to kill file. I only kill file those who never post on topic. Frankly, you might be a candidate if not for the cool pictures of your jet boat. Why not post something about it once in a while? |
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... Garbage is in the eye of the beholder but I (and you) have just as much right to throw it on the table as anyone else. I don't agree Wayne. Usenet is set up like a newspaper. It has "sections" that the contents should be on-topic. This is the intent of Usenet. People who post off-topic, is like listing the obituaries in the sports section. Any posts that are not discussion about this group, or boating, are off-topic, hence, garbage. I actually like Harry in many respects and would rather try to gently reform him than to kill file. The problem I have with Krause, is that he was the main contributor of off-topic posts. He has been caught in many lies...even about his boating. He also calls people immature names, and its known that he goes out of his way (like contacting peoples ISP) to go against people who don't agree with him. I dont respect him in any way. There were a sharp few here, who used to mice poor Harry to bits, and it *was* fun to watch him fall apart, but that got old rather quickly. It was apparent he was too slow to even realize how stupid he looked, thus, the fun watching him dissolve became rather pathetic. He spends his whole life here...I have no desire to "reform" him...I have better things to do. One of them, going out on my real boats, in real water. I only kill file those who never post on topic. When I kill filed Krause, the only 1% of on-topic posts he was making, turned out to be lies. Sorry, but considering he posts hundreds of times per week, that's just too much garbage. Frankly, you might be a candidate if not for the cool pictures of your jet boat. Ill admit I post little here, but I still have contributed more than Krause. And that's saying something given the fact that he posts 1000 times more than I. Why not post something about it once in a while? I usually just read here, and keep to myself. I like to help others get a good read here, and if I can help someone, I do, but since you ask...here's a humbling story... This past summer, I was up at the reservoir in the early am, getting ready to spool her up for a high speed pass. A nice cool morning...about 62, and no wind....the water was like glass. I had a work friend named Jim with me, and didn't have the chase boat in the water. (I usually don't make speed runs without it in, but the boat has been rock solid for 4 years now). Anywho, spun her up to about 75%...running a nice solid 105 mph. Nice...water like glass, smooth as silk, and the wheels whistling away in that sweet high pitch. Decided to punch her down pretty hard...110...115...120...125...and all of a sudden, I saw this speck on the water horizon. As soon as I saw it, it rushed towards me in what seemed like a nana-second. At the exact time I recognized it as a Seagull roosting in the water (Id say it was about 100 feet), it disappeared under the bow. I had no time to react. A loud "CHERRRUNCK" came from the stern, the turbine hic-cupped, and the bow settled down hard. We probably lost 30 mph in a second. Our heads went forward, and Jims helmet even glanced the dash. I noticed the power stage down at 70% while the compressor was at 90%, and the fuel pressure going up real fast...I pulled the e-fuel shut-off, and as the turbine wound down, a fitting on the fuel rail split, spitting fuel over the port-stern. This all happened in about a second and a half. As we gathered ourselves, removed our helmets, and made sure each was ok, we quickly surveyed the boat. No fire.hull was intact...no water coming in...drive-line seemed ok...other than the blown fitting, everything on the inside seemed ok. We made a cell call to my brother, who said he would start that way ASAP. I told him will were going to try to put the fitting back on, and get back to the ramp. We got the fitting on ok, and after a systems check (everything ok) decided to start her up. Spun up fine...everything looks good...fuel and oil pressure on queue, so at 40% I hit the igniters. "POOF"...she comes to life. Sounds fine...nice 42% idle, and all instruments look good. So I brake the output shaft, shove the gearbox into forward, and as I let out the brake, the boat shudders badly. I mean badly. Its almost as if the back end is jumping out of the water...something is wrong...really wrong...we shut down. We start paddling towards shore, and my bro meets me half way back, and tows us the rest of the way in. Once at the dock, we trailer the boat, and the problem is apparent. One of the 3 blades of the 24" NIBRAL screw was 80% gone, and a second blade damaged badly...50% of it, however, the drive and control cylinders (which we checked in the water) seemed ok. On the way home we concluded that the sheer high-speed impact of the blades, against the rather solid mass of the large gull, did all the damage. We laughed as we speculated what the last thing that poor gull was thinking before his rather horrific demise...albeit quick. And no...we did t see any remains in the water...we were a few hundred yards away from the impact sight by the time we stopped, and while we did look back, we saw nothing...and I'm guessing that's about how much of my flying friend was left too, and truth be known, I don't care for seagulls much anyway. :) Anyway, a new screw later, and we are back in business, but, it made me ponder two things... 1. It's hard to have a good reference of "speed" when in open smooth water. To this day, I am astounded how damn fast that "speck" turned into a 7lb bird right in front of me, in that very short time. And 2. I have never hit a bird before. In all my years of boating, any gull, duck, or goose has never failed to remove itself from my path. To this day, I wonder if it was the sheer speed that killed the gull, or that he may have died in his sleep... :) |
Good story. Glad you guys and the boat made it OK. Sorry about the prop. Not too sorry about the gull. On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:17:19 -0500, "Netsock" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . Garbage is in the eye of the beholder but I (and you) have just as much right to throw it on the table as anyone else. I don't agree Wayne. Usenet is set up like a newspaper. It has "sections" that the contents should be on-topic. This is the intent of Usenet. People who post off-topic, is like listing the obituaries in the sports section. Any posts that are not discussion about this group, or boating, are off-topic, hence, garbage. I actually like Harry in many respects and would rather try to gently reform him than to kill file. The problem I have with Krause, is that he was the main contributor of off-topic posts. He has been caught in many lies...even about his boating. He also calls people immature names, and its known that he goes out of his way (like contacting peoples ISP) to go against people who don't agree with him. I dont respect him in any way. There were a sharp few here, who used to mice poor Harry to bits, and it *was* fun to watch him fall apart, but that got old rather quickly. It was apparent he was too slow to even realize how stupid he looked, thus, the fun watching him dissolve became rather pathetic. He spends his whole life here...I have no desire to "reform" him...I have better things to do. One of them, going out on my real boats, in real water. I only kill file those who never post on topic. When I kill filed Krause, the only 1% of on-topic posts he was making, turned out to be lies. Sorry, but considering he posts hundreds of times per week, that's just too much garbage. Frankly, you might be a candidate if not for the cool pictures of your jet boat. Ill admit I post little here, but I still have contributed more than Krause. And that's saying something given the fact that he posts 1000 times more than I. Why not post something about it once in a while? I usually just read here, and keep to myself. I like to help others get a good read here, and if I can help someone, I do, but since you ask...here's a humbling story... This past summer, I was up at the reservoir in the early am, getting ready to spool her up for a high speed pass. A nice cool morning...about 62, and no wind....the water was like glass. I had a work friend named Jim with me, and didn't have the chase boat in the water. (I usually don't make speed runs without it in, but the boat has been rock solid for 4 years now). Anywho, spun her up to about 75%...running a nice solid 105 mph. Nice...water like glass, smooth as silk, and the wheels whistling away in that sweet high pitch. Decided to punch her down pretty hard...110...115...120...125...and all of a sudden, I saw this speck on the water horizon. As soon as I saw it, it rushed towards me in what seemed like a nana-second. At the exact time I recognized it as a Seagull roosting in the water (Id say it was about 100 feet), it disappeared under the bow. I had no time to react. A loud "CHERRRUNCK" came from the stern, the turbine hic-cupped, and the bow settled down hard. We probably lost 30 mph in a second. Our heads went forward, and Jims helmet even glanced the dash. I noticed the power stage down at 70% while the compressor was at 90%, and the fuel pressure going up real fast...I pulled the e-fuel shut-off, and as the turbine wound down, a fitting on the fuel rail split, spitting fuel over the port-stern. This all happened in about a second and a half. As we gathered ourselves, removed our helmets, and made sure each was ok, we quickly surveyed the boat. No fire.hull was intact...no water coming in...drive-line seemed ok...other than the blown fitting, everything on the inside seemed ok. We made a cell call to my brother, who said he would start that way ASAP. I told him will were going to try to put the fitting back on, and get back to the ramp. We got the fitting on ok, and after a systems check (everything ok) decided to start her up. Spun up fine...everything looks good...fuel and oil pressure on queue, so at 40% I hit the igniters. "POOF"...she comes to life. Sounds fine...nice 42% idle, and all instruments look good. So I brake the output shaft, shove the gearbox into forward, and as I let out the brake, the boat shudders badly. I mean badly. Its almost as if the back end is jumping out of the water...something is wrong...really wrong...we shut down. We start paddling towards shore, and my bro meets me half way back, and tows us the rest of the way in. Once at the dock, we trailer the boat, and the problem is apparent. One of the 3 blades of the 24" NIBRAL screw was 80% gone, and a second blade damaged badly...50% of it, however, the drive and control cylinders (which we checked in the water) seemed ok. On the way home we concluded that the sheer high-speed impact of the blades, against the rather solid mass of the large gull, did all the damage. We laughed as we speculated what the last thing that poor gull was thinking before his rather horrific demise...albeit quick. And no...we did t see any remains in the water...we were a few hundred yards away from the impact sight by the time we stopped, and while we did look back, we saw nothing...and I'm guessing that's about how much of my flying friend was left too, and truth be known, I don't care for seagulls much anyway. :) Anyway, a new screw later, and we are back in business, but, it made me ponder two things... 1. It's hard to have a good reference of "speed" when in open smooth water. To this day, I am astounded how damn fast that "speck" turned into a 7lb bird right in front of me, in that very short time. And 2. I have never hit a bird before. In all my years of boating, any gull, duck, or goose has never failed to remove itself from my path. To this day, I wonder if it was the sheer speed that killed the gull, or that he may have died in his sleep... :) -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... It's his daddy's boat, actually, or so he said some years ago. LOL! I never said any such thing...you are, and always will be a liar. You made this up out of thin air...proof, you are a liar. It also shows how jealous you are. And why do you keep changing your identity? Are you that insecure that you feel the need for me to "hear" you? While I'm flattered that I can get under your skin so, I have better things to do than play little liar games with morons. Good luck in life. *ploink* #10 -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
"NetSlut" Our village idiot posing as yet another username lied wrote in message ... Of course, when I post here as Harry Krause, it shows I really am obsessed by him. What are you babbling about now? Get a life and grow up, liar. -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:55:08 -0500, "Netsock" wrote:
Get a life and grow up ======================== Good advice. Lead by example. |
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... Good advice. Lead by example. I am. I have a life, and I'm all growed up. :) But as long as Krause lies here, he'll be called a liar. -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:13:19 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: One or two of these helpful souls shows up once in a while, but the others were chased off by the vile temper of one particular poster. =================== Not really fair or entirely accurate IMHO, but the poster from under has certainly been over zealous, no question. With all due respect Harry, you have done way more than your share to make wretched.boats what it is. I believe you can lay 100% blame on Krause for the downfall of this NG. He lives to be the center of attention and thrives on controversy and flame wars. I have kill-filed the idiot but he keeps changing his ID in an attempt to be "heard" by those who have him kill-filed. This NG would definitely be better off without the old man. |
hkrause wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:00:27 -0500, NetSlut wrote: Of course, when I post here as Harry Krause, it shows I really am obsessed by him. ============== As are many others. What makes you so special other than your penchant for creative pseudonyms and usenet clutter? I find it really strange that at least several posters here try to pose as me or as a member of my family. Whatever their claims about why tney do it is overshadowed by their obsession. And, of course, not one of them can write. It is a sad commentary on whatever is missing in their self-esteem. If you want to talk boats in a moderated (no bull****)forum go here http://www.thehulltruth.com I did. I check back here once in awhile but the Hull truth is my daily stop. Sluggo |
"sluggok9" wrote in message ups.com... hkrause wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:00:27 -0500, NetSlut wrote: Of course, when I post here as Harry Krause, it shows I really am obsessed by him. ============== As are many others. What makes you so special other than your penchant for creative pseudonyms and usenet clutter? I find it really strange that at least several posters here try to pose as me or as a member of my family. Whatever their claims about why tney do it is overshadowed by their obsession. And, of course, not one of them can write. It is a sad commentary on whatever is missing in their self-esteem. If you want to talk boats in a moderated (no bull****)forum go here http://www.thehulltruth.com I did. I check back here once in awhile but the Hull truth is my daily stop. Sluggo I joined that forum a couple of years ago but have not participated since we sold our boat last year. It is indeed a nice forum. |
Don wrote:
Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized, by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Yep. On my newsreader, I plonked about 40 people from this NG so far. Even shortwave sportfishing, or whatever he calls himself, I plonked. Maybe it's time for rec.boats.moderated? |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:43:37 GMT, Don wrote:
Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized, by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Since you don't seem to have much interest in boats,why don't you summertime boaties form a new group like rec.boats.fuk'em.lets.talk.politics Don Ah, a newbie. This group serves me and my own political rants. It is also my forum to show off how perfect I am, and that I have more boating knowlegde than anybody else here. |
wrote in message oups.com... Don wrote: Seems the only general boat NG has been infiltrated, nay, hooliganized, by a half dozen crusty, "my dick is bigger", curmudgeons who think that by putting OT in the subject, they aren't really flooding this group with crap. Yep. On my newsreader, I plonked about 40 people from this NG so far. Even shortwave sportfishing, or whatever he calls himself, I plonked. Maybe it's time for rec.boats.moderated? Thats about how many I have...including that OT poster. I get a very nice boating list using my kill file and filters...except for one pointed-headed twit, who stalks me, by changing his name a dozen times. Enjoy the group. -- -Netsock "It's just about going fast...that's all..." http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/ |
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