Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20"
leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.
Bill

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:39:09 -0800, atl_man2 wrote:

Now, back
to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off
fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water
temp?

The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less than 10
meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots of
vegetation!).

Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer in
the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so early
- these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer.

BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" - can
someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be illegal
he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater)

Lloyd

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:30:55 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:

Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20"
leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.
Bill


Ahhhh!

I used a "Carolina rig" when I was a kid, fishing for cutts (just didn't
call it that!). We also use a variation where the weight is on the end
of the line and the hook is 20-50cm up (called a "bar rig"). But I like
the idea of hooking the hook back into the worm - we DO have lots of stuff
on the bottom to snag!

I also have some flies that are weighted on the "back" so they sink
hook-up. I should give them a try.

Lloyd

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:30:55 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:

Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in
a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm
and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then
15-20"
leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is
for
muddy, silted in bottoms.
Bill


Ahhhh!

I used a "Carolina rig" when I was a kid, fishing for cutts (just didn't
call it that!). We also use a variation where the weight is on the end
of the line and the hook is 20-50cm up (called a "bar rig"). But I like
the idea of hooking the hook back into the worm - we DO have lots of stuff
on the bottom to snag!

I also have some flies that are weighted on the "back" so they sink
hook-up. I should give them a try.

Lloyd


For flys, use a little cork popper type.

Calif Bill wrote:
Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried
in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the
worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless.
The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then
15-20"
leader to the hook.

Nope. With a Carolina rig, the weight is ABOVE the swivel, which is
usually around 3 or 4 feet above the hook. The weight is an egg sinker,
so it will go to the bottom, and the line will slide through the
weight.

Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.

Nope. the Carolina rig CAN be used in silty situations, but is isn't
FOR them. There are many, many areas, and conditions where a Carolina
rig is affective. Further, it was first developed to fish DEEP
structure.

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Calif Bill wrote:
Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried
in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the
worm and
then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless.
The
Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then
15-20"
leader to the hook.

Nope. With a Carolina rig, the weight is ABOVE the swivel, which is
usually around 3 or 4 feet above the hook. The weight is an egg sinker,
so it will go to the bottom, and the line will slide through the
weight.

Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for
muddy, silted in bottoms.

Nope. the Carolina rig CAN be used in silty situations, but is isn't
FOR them. There are many, many areas, and conditions where a Carolina
rig is affective. Further, it was first developed to fish DEEP
structure.


I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And DEEP in the
south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion in the silt
and the worm stayed above the bottom.

Calif Bill wrote:

I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And DEEP in
the
south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion in
the silt
and the worm stayed above the bottom.

The Carolina rig was developed to fish DEEP structure. It was NOT
developed to fish silty, muddy bottoms. It's hardly used for such. You
are wrong.

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Calif Bill wrote:

I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And DEEP in
the
south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion in
the silt
and the worm stayed above the bottom.

The Carolina rig was developed to fish DEEP structure. It was NOT
developed to fish silty, muddy bottoms. It's hardly used for such. You
are wrong.


Deep in the south may be 20'. They are old lakes and reservoirs. They have
lots of silt. The big weight stirs up the bottom and the worm gets to float
above the silt. You better do your research better. Otherwise a Texas
rigged with a bigger weight would do the job. BC and the west have deep
lakes. We normally fish 20' as shallow in most of the lakes. Is why the
drop shot came out of here.

Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:

I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And
DEEP in
the
south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion
in
the silt
and the worm stayed above the bottom.

The Carolina rig was developed to fish DEEP structure. It was NOT
developed to fish silty, muddy bottoms. It's hardly used for such.
You
are wrong.


Deep in the south may be 20'. They are old lakes and reservoirs.
They have
lots of silt.

Nope, wrong. Many, many very clear lakes here, and fishing to the
depths of 80 or 90 feet. How much fishing have you done here, where the
Carolina rig was invented? Me? Many, many hours.
The big weight stirs up the bottom and the worm gets to float
above the silt. You better do your research better.

Nope, wrong again. The weight, being an egg sinker, allows the sinker
to do nothing but sit on the bottom, the bait can travel with the
current, somewhat. THAT is the reason the Carolina rig was invented, to
allow the bait to raise three to six or so feet above the bottom, then
slowly flutter back down.

Otherwise a Texas
rigged with a bigger weight would do the job.
Texas rig is used to fish the bottom. Completely different than a
Carolina rig.

BC and the west have deep
lakes. We normally fish 20' as shallow in most of the lakes. Is why
the
drop shot came out of here.

Drop shot keeps your bait in a certain, small area, Carolina rig does
not.

Anyway, using a Carolina rig has nothing to do with stirring up silt.
It's just another presentation, and in particular, it allows the bait
to raise up whatever length your leader is, then slowly flutter to the
bottom.

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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:

I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And
DEEP in
the
south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion
in
the silt
and the worm stayed above the bottom.

The Carolina rig was developed to fish DEEP structure. It was NOT
developed to fish silty, muddy bottoms. It's hardly used for such.
You
are wrong.


Deep in the south may be 20'. They are old lakes and reservoirs.
They have
lots of silt.

Nope, wrong. Many, many very clear lakes here, and fishing to the
depths of 80 or 90 feet. How much fishing have you done here, where the
Carolina rig was invented? Me? Many, many hours.
The big weight stirs up the bottom and the worm gets to float
above the silt. You better do your research better.

Nope, wrong again. The weight, being an egg sinker, allows the sinker
to do nothing but sit on the bottom, the bait can travel with the
current, somewhat. THAT is the reason the Carolina rig was invented, to
allow the bait to raise three to six or so feet above the bottom, then
slowly flutter back down.

Otherwise a Texas
rigged with a bigger weight would do the job.
Texas rig is used to fish the bottom. Completely different than a
Carolina rig.

BC and the west have deep
lakes. We normally fish 20' as shallow in most of the lakes. Is why
the
drop shot came out of here.

Drop shot keeps your bait in a certain, small area, Carolina rig does
not.

Anyway, using a Carolina rig has nothing to do with stirring up silt.
It's just another presentation, and in particular, it allows the bait
to raise up whatever length your leader is, then slowly flutter to the
bottom.


Not what the pros say. But you are entitled to your opinion. Drop shot is
so we can fish 60' deep.