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John H March 9th 05 02:20 PM

The NY Times gets it - fiinally. OT
 
Note Clinton's comments about Lebanon.


The New York Times
March 9, 2005
NEWS ANALYSIS
For Bush, No Boasts, but a Taste of Vindication
By TODD S. PURDUM

WASHINGTON, March 8 - He has gone out of his way not to crow, or even to take
direct credit. But not quite two years after he began the invasion that toppled
Saddam Hussein, and not quite two months after a second Inaugural Address in
which he spoke of "ending tyranny," President Bush seems entitled to claim as he
did on Tuesday that a "thaw has begun" in the broader Middle East.

At the very least, Mr. Bush is feeling the glow of the recent flurry of impulses
toward democracy in Iraq, the Palestinian territories, Lebanon and even Egypt
and Saudi Arabia, where events have put him on a bit of a roll and some of his
sharpest critics on the defensive. It now seems just possible that Mr. Bush and
aides like Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz were not wrong to argue
that the "status quo of despotism cannot be ignored or appeased, kept in a box
or cut off," as the president put it in a speech at the National Defense
University here.

The failure to find unconventional weapons in Iraq, his administration's
shifting rationales for the war, the lingering insurgency and steady American
casualties there were a drag on Mr. Bush's political fortunes for most of last
year. But a wave of developments since the better-than-expected Iraqi elections
in January - some perhaps related and others probably not - have brought Mr.
Bush a measure of vindication, which may or may not be sustained by events and
his own actions in the months to come.

"By now it should be clear that decades of excusing and accommodating tyranny in
the pursuit of stability have only led to injustice and instability and
tragedy," Mr. Bush said on Tuesday. "It should be clear that the advance of
democracy leads to peace, because governments that respect the rights of their
people also respect the rights of their neighbors."

His two predecessors in the Oval Office, his father and Bill Clinton, both spoke
of the latest signs of progress in an appearance at the White House. The first
President Bush was restrained, pronouncing himself "very pleased," but
cautioning that much work remained to be done.

Mr. Clinton was more ebullient, noting that the Iraqi elections "went better
than anyone could have imagined." In Lebanon, he said, "the Syrians are going to
have to get out of there and give the Lebanese their country back, and I think
the fact that the Lebanese are in the street demanding it is wonderful."

Asked about huge demonstrations on Tuesday, sponsored by Hezbollah, that
demanded just the opposite, Mr. Clinton said: "I find it inconceivable that most
Lebanese wouldn't like it if they had their country back. You know, they want
their country back and they ought to get it."

For his part, Mr. Bush himself again acknowledged that building democracy in the
Middle East will require a "generational commitment."

One senior White House aide, speaking on condition of anonymity so as not to
overshadow his boss, acknowledged as much. "Obviously, the acts of courage we've
seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, the demonstrations that happened in the Ukraine and
now in Lebanon, these are very inspiring developments that have obviously caught
the notice of the president," he said. "But this is very complicated stuff, and
there are a lot of turns left on this journey, and the president at every step
of the way has always cautioned it's going to be a difficult road."

Still, even as sharp and consistent a critic of Mr. Bush's foreign policy as
Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat, gives Mr. Bush some
credit for the latest stirrings of liberty along the eastern Mediterranean.

"What's taken place in a number of those countries is enormously constructive,"
Mr. Kennedy said on Sunday on the ABC News program "This Week." "It's a
reflection the president has been involved."

Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut and a frequent ally of Mr.
Bush on national security affairs, was in the audience for his speech on Tuesday
and was more effusive.

"Look, this moment in the Middle East has the feel of Central and Eastern Europe
around the collapse of the Berlin Wall," he said in a telephone interview. "It's
a very different historical and political context, and we all understand that
democracy in the Middle East is in its infancy. But something is happening."

Mr. Lieberman said Mr. Bush deserved credit for at least two things: the
overthrow of Saddam Hussein and the continued American military presence in
Iraq, which he said showed "the proven willingness of the United States to put
its power behind its principles."

Indeed, Mr. Bush cast the United States' current posture in a long, bipartisan
tradition of American foreign policy, from Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points to
Franklin D. Roosevelt's Four Freedoms, Harry S. Truman's Marshall Plan and
Ronald Reagan's unwillingness to accept Soviet hegemony in Eastern Europe.

Mr. Bush's sharp demand on Tuesday that "all Syrian military forces and
intelligence personnel must withdraw" from Lebanon before the scheduled
elections there in May, if the elections themselves are to be viewed as fair,
was a sign that he has every intention of pressing what he sees as his advantage
in the region and in the court of world opinion - whether he describes it that
way in public or not.

Still, there are real and practical dangers in the passions recently unleashed
in the Middle East.

Saudi Arabia's recent limited municipal elections and President Hosni Mubarak's
announcement that he will permit multiparty presidential elections in Egypt this
fall are indisputably encouraging to would-be reformers here and there.

But full and genuine democratic elections in either country might well result in
strongly anti-American governments.

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John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

NOYB March 9th 05 04:39 PM

Excellent article. The usual editorial folks must have called in sick that
day.


"John H" wrote in message
...
Note Clinton's comments about Lebanon.


The New York Times
March 9, 2005
NEWS ANALYSIS
For Bush, No Boasts, but a Taste of Vindication
By TODD S. PURDUM

WASHINGTON, March 8 - He has gone out of his way not to crow, or even to
take
direct credit. But not quite two years after he began the invasion that
toppled
Saddam Hussein, and not quite two months after a second Inaugural Address
in
which he spoke of "ending tyranny," President Bush seems entitled to claim
as he
did on Tuesday that a "thaw has begun" in the broader Middle East.

At the very least, Mr. Bush is feeling the glow of the recent flurry of
impulses
toward democracy in Iraq, the Palestinian territories, Lebanon and even
Egypt
and Saudi Arabia, where events have put him on a bit of a roll and some of
his
sharpest critics on the defensive. It now seems just possible that Mr.
Bush and
aides like Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz were not wrong to
argue
that the "status quo of despotism cannot be ignored or appeased, kept in a
box
or cut off," as the president put it in a speech at the National Defense
University here.

The failure to find unconventional weapons in Iraq, his administration's
shifting rationales for the war, the lingering insurgency and steady
American
casualties there were a drag on Mr. Bush's political fortunes for most of
last
year. But a wave of developments since the better-than-expected Iraqi
elections
in January - some perhaps related and others probably not - have brought
Mr.
Bush a measure of vindication, which may or may not be sustained by events
and
his own actions in the months to come.

"By now it should be clear that decades of excusing and accommodating
tyranny in
the pursuit of stability have only led to injustice and instability and
tragedy," Mr. Bush said on Tuesday. "It should be clear that the advance
of
democracy leads to peace, because governments that respect the rights of
their
people also respect the rights of their neighbors."

His two predecessors in the Oval Office, his father and Bill Clinton, both
spoke
of the latest signs of progress in an appearance at the White House. The
first
President Bush was restrained, pronouncing himself "very pleased," but
cautioning that much work remained to be done.

Mr. Clinton was more ebullient, noting that the Iraqi elections "went
better
than anyone could have imagined." In Lebanon, he said, "the Syrians are
going to
have to get out of there and give the Lebanese their country back, and I
think
the fact that the Lebanese are in the street demanding it is wonderful."

Asked about huge demonstrations on Tuesday, sponsored by Hezbollah, that
demanded just the opposite, Mr. Clinton said: "I find it inconceivable
that most
Lebanese wouldn't like it if they had their country back. You know, they
want
their country back and they ought to get it."

For his part, Mr. Bush himself again acknowledged that building democracy
in the
Middle East will require a "generational commitment."

One senior White House aide, speaking on condition of anonymity so as not
to
overshadow his boss, acknowledged as much. "Obviously, the acts of courage
we've
seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, the demonstrations that happened in the Ukraine
and
now in Lebanon, these are very inspiring developments that have obviously
caught
the notice of the president," he said. "But this is very complicated
stuff, and
there are a lot of turns left on this journey, and the president at every
step
of the way has always cautioned it's going to be a difficult road."

Still, even as sharp and consistent a critic of Mr. Bush's foreign policy
as
Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat, gives Mr. Bush some
credit for the latest stirrings of liberty along the eastern
Mediterranean.

"What's taken place in a number of those countries is enormously
constructive,"
Mr. Kennedy said on Sunday on the ABC News program "This Week." "It's a
reflection the president has been involved."

Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut and a frequent ally
of Mr.
Bush on national security affairs, was in the audience for his speech on
Tuesday
and was more effusive.

"Look, this moment in the Middle East has the feel of Central and Eastern
Europe
around the collapse of the Berlin Wall," he said in a telephone interview.
"It's
a very different historical and political context, and we all understand
that
democracy in the Middle East is in its infancy. But something is
happening."

Mr. Lieberman said Mr. Bush deserved credit for at least two things: the
overthrow of Saddam Hussein and the continued American military presence
in
Iraq, which he said showed "the proven willingness of the United States to
put
its power behind its principles."

Indeed, Mr. Bush cast the United States' current posture in a long,
bipartisan
tradition of American foreign policy, from Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen
Points to
Franklin D. Roosevelt's Four Freedoms, Harry S. Truman's Marshall Plan and
Ronald Reagan's unwillingness to accept Soviet hegemony in Eastern Europe.

Mr. Bush's sharp demand on Tuesday that "all Syrian military forces and
intelligence personnel must withdraw" from Lebanon before the scheduled
elections there in May, if the elections themselves are to be viewed as
fair,
was a sign that he has every intention of pressing what he sees as his
advantage
in the region and in the court of world opinion - whether he describes it
that
way in public or not.

Still, there are real and practical dangers in the passions recently
unleashed
in the Middle East.

Saudi Arabia's recent limited municipal elections and President Hosni
Mubarak's
announcement that he will permit multiparty presidential elections in
Egypt this
fall are indisputably encouraging to would-be reformers here and there.

But full and genuine democratic elections in either country might well
result in
strongly anti-American governments.

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|
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John H

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