Go here to hear a Regan quote about hippies - and also lots of other
really, really, bizare things he said:

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/reagan%20quotes.htm

Gary wrote:

Go here to hear a Regan quote about hippies - and also lots of other
really, really, bizare things he said:

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/reagan%20quotes.htm



Not nice to take shots at a dead alzhimers suffering president

"Jim," wrote:

Not nice to take shots at a dead alzhimers suffering president


I actually meant to send that somewhere else. But since it's here...

He's the one that made the quotes. If he didn't want to be remembered
in this way he shouldn't have made himself a public figure and/or shouldn't
have said these things. ~ My guess is that he'd be happy to be remembered
this way...he said these things and probably meant most of them.

By the way - I liked Reagan. I didn't / don't agree with some of what he
stood for, but I did agree with some things and, mostly, I did think that on
the whose he was an honorable man trying to do the right things.

Hard to defend a statment like this though...
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." -- Ronald Reagan, 1981

Maybe it was taken out of context or some such?

Gary

"Gary" wrote in message
...
"Jim," wrote:

Not nice to take shots at a dead alzhimers suffering president


I actually meant to send that somewhere else. But since it's here...

He's the one that made the quotes. If he didn't want to be remembered
in this way he shouldn't have made himself a public figure and/or
shouldn't
have said these things. ~ My guess is that he'd be happy to be remembered
this way...he said these things and probably meant most of them.

By the way - I liked Reagan. I didn't / don't agree with some of what he
stood for, but I did agree with some things and, mostly, I did think that
on
the whose he was an honorable man trying to do the right things.

Hard to defend a statment like this though...
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." -- Ronald Reagan, 1981

Maybe it was taken out of context or some such?

Or just maybe he was on the right track

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/04/1004/3b.shtml
http://www.chennaionline.com/science...ironment24.asp
http://www.water.az.gov/NewsArchive/trees031703.htm



Gary

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:36:47 -0500, P.Fritz wrote:

Hard to defend a statment like this though...
"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do." -- Ronald Reagan,
1981

Maybe it was taken out of context or some such?

Or just maybe he was on the right track

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/04/1004/3b.shtml
http://www.chennaionline.com/science...ironment24.asp
http://www.water.az.gov/NewsArchive/trees031703.htm

LOL, perhaps you can show us a study where trees are responsible for
carbon monoxide, benzene, formaldehyde, etc. etc.

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...


http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/04/1004/3b.shtml
http://www.chennaionline.com/science...ironment24.asp
http://www.water.az.gov/NewsArchive/trees031703.htm



Interesting links. I quickly browsed all three of these. Tell me if you see
it differently
but what I get from these is: Some trees do produce pollution but most trees
also
absorb CO2 and "clean" the air. Some of it depends on what you consider
"pollution" and what you consider "cleaning". Overall the statement that
"Trees
cause more pollution than automobiles do." is probably incorrect at worst
and
misleading at best.

Still, it just goes to show that there are almost never simple answers. It
takes research
and critical thought to properly asses most issues. It is my belief that
there are plenty
or people on all "sides" that should research and think a lot more before
speaking or
else just shut up.

Thanks for the links.

Gary

"Gary" wrote in message
...

"P.Fritz" wrote in message
...


http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/04/1004/3b.shtml
http://www.chennaionline.com/science...ironment24.asp
http://www.water.az.gov/NewsArchive/trees031703.htm



Interesting links. I quickly browsed all three of these. Tell me if you
see it differently
but what I get from these is: Some trees do produce pollution but most
trees also
absorb CO2 and "clean" the air.

I don't consider CO2 a pollutant. Those that do should just off themselves
and stop polluting the air by exhaling.


Some of it depends on what you consider
"pollution" and what you consider "cleaning". Overall the statement that
"Trees
cause more pollution than automobiles do." is probably incorrect at worst
and
misleading at best.

In certain cases, for certain substances, trees probably do produce more.


Still, it just goes to show that there are almost never simple answers. It
takes research
and critical thought to properly asses most issues. It is my belief that
there are plenty
or people on all "sides" that should research and think a lot more before
speaking or
else just shut up.

You mean like algore? (as in the shutting up part)


Thanks for the links.

Gary

"P.Fritz" wrote:

I don't consider CO2 a pollutant.

Of things that cars and trees emit, is there anything you would consider a
pollutant?


Those that do [consider CO2 a pollutant] should just off themselves and
stop polluting the air by exhaling.


Yea, that's a little bit witty.

I hope you're not using wit to avoid having to think critically about this
issue.


In certain cases, for certain substances, trees probably do produce more
[pollution].


OK. But do you belive that trees are, overall, worse polluters than cars?
If not, isn't Reagan's statement disingenuous?


Gary Wrote:
It is my belief that there are plenty of people on all "sides" that
should research and think a lot more before speaking or else just shut
up.

Paul Wrote:

You mean like algore? (as in the shutting up part)


"algore" huh? Seems like you might be a Ditto Head.

Well, it's easy to be disrespectful of people. And sometimes it's funny.
It's also easy to be partisan and only see those on the "other" side that
are wrong.

So I ask you, are there any prominent Republicans that you
can point to (with or without the disrespect) that you think should "shut
up"
until they learn to research and think critically?

As for Al Go I think the man has some limitations and faults (as most
men do) and some of those might have made him a bad president. But
one fault I think he *doesn't* have is speaking before researching and
thinking critically.

Who the heck is REGAN? :-)

"Gary" wrote in message
...

"P.Fritz" wrote:

I don't consider CO2 a pollutant.

Of things that cars and trees emit, is there anything you would consider a
pollutant?

Sure, there are all kinds of VOC's produced by cars, trees, plastics,
paints, etc. etc.



Those that do [consider CO2 a pollutant] should just off themselves and
stop polluting the air by exhaling.


Yea, that's a little bit witty.

I hope you're not using wit to avoid having to think critically about this
issue.

Simply that CO2 is not a pollutant.



In certain cases, for certain substances, trees probably do produce more
[pollution].


OK. But do you belive that trees are, overall, worse polluters than cars?
If not, isn't Reagan's statement disingenuous?

I think for certain compounds, trees may produce more than cars, for other,
cars more than trees....it also depends on local conditions.



Gary Wrote:
It is my belief that there are plenty of people on all "sides" that
should research and think a lot more before speaking or else just shut
up.

Paul Wrote:

You mean like algore? (as in the shutting up part)


"algore" huh? Seems like you might be a Ditto Head.

Nope.


Well, it's easy to be disrespectful of people. And sometimes it's funny.
It's also easy to be partisan and only see those on the "other" side that
are wrong.




So I ask you, are there any prominent Republicans that you
can point to (with or without the disrespect) that you think should "shut
up"
until they learn to research and think critically?

Pat Buchanon for one,


As for Al Go I think the man has some limitations and faults (as most
men do) and some of those might have made him a bad president. But
one fault I think he *doesn't* have is speaking before researching and
thinking critically.

Maybe you should 'rethink' His hard core belief in global warming and
desires to remidey it at the expense of the US is not a sign of critical
thinking