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DSK March 8th 05 01:27 AM

What's bizarre is the inability to see the good things happening in the
Middle East right now as a result of Bush's policies.


Like what?

... One would have to
be stupid or ignorant to not see it. Which are you? (Pick one).



One would have to be either high on cheap drugs, or very thoroughly
insulated from reality, to actually believe that Bush/Cheney's policy's
have had anything to do with "good things happening in the Middle East"
other than Iraq's recent election.


Doug Kanter wrote:
I'm someone who does not agree with this statement of foreign policy:
U.S. to Arab World: "Stop hating us, or suffer the consequences". You know
it's true, although you're too small to admit it publicly.


Maybe, he admitted last week that he was wrong about something else.
Reality may be seeping in through the wrinkles in his tinfoil beanie.

DSK


John H March 8th 05 01:36 AM

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:27:03 -0500, DSK wrote:

What's bizarre is the inability to see the good things happening in the
Middle East right now as a result of Bush's policies.


Like what?

... One would have to
be stupid or ignorant to not see it. Which are you? (Pick one).



One would have to be either high on cheap drugs, or very thoroughly
insulated from reality, to actually believe that Bush/Cheney's policy's
have had anything to do with "good things happening in the Middle East"
other than Iraq's recent election.


Doug Kanter wrote:
I'm someone who does not agree with this statement of foreign policy:
U.S. to Arab World: "Stop hating us, or suffer the consequences". You know
it's true, although you're too small to admit it publicly.


Maybe, he admitted last week that he was wrong about something else.
Reality may be seeping in through the wrinkles in his tinfoil beanie.

DSK


I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last week. They
both had good things to say.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

DSK March 8th 05 01:41 AM

John H wrote:
I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last week. They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your thinking.

DSK


[email protected] March 8th 05 03:02 AM

John H wrote:

Well! I'm glad to see you've dropped that 'I'm an independent' stuff!

******

??????????????

Newsflash to John H. You can be liberal and an "indepedent". You could
even be conservative and an "independent". People who don't identify
with a political party are independent, regardless whether they are
liberal, moderate, or conservative.


John H March 8th 05 12:24 PM

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last week. They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H March 8th 05 12:27 PM

On 7 Mar 2005 19:02:53 -0800, wrote:

John H wrote:

Well! I'm glad to see you've dropped that 'I'm an independent' stuff!

******

??????????????

Newsflash to John H. You can be liberal and an "indepedent". You could
even be conservative and an "independent". People who don't identify
with a political party are independent, regardless whether they are
liberal, moderate, or conservative.


Ah, thanks for clearing that up. My independent mind was being torn asunder.

I feel better now.

Are you a liberal independent progressive?


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JimH March 8th 05 12:27 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion to
gain the trust of more voters.



John H March 8th 05 12:42 PM

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists, she is
quite rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

DSK March 8th 05 12:44 PM

And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your thinking.


John H wrote:
Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


I knew that the Devil can quote Scripture but I never expected to see
one of rec.boats resident fascit boneheads quoting Hillary Clinton to
support one of his absurd assertions.

As for my influence, of course you reject intelligent & factual input,
that's why you're a member of the Krause-obessed fascist whacko clique.

DSK


Doug Kanter March 8th 05 01:05 PM


"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists, she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.



NOYB March 8th 05 01:07 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:27:24 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

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"John H" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

I don't know about the rationalizations...but the retaliatory
strike
plans
are certainly already written.

************************

"What this country needs is another Pearl Harbor" (Project for
the New
American Century)

You guys need to be careful what you wish for.


*You guys*? I guess you mean the left as those are the only ones
hoping
for bad things to happen, including in the Middle East. After all,
aren't
politics more important than Country for many on the left?


I'm not sure what Chuck meant, but I can add something useful: Boys
like
NOYB want something bad to happen because it means they'll see
footage on
TV
from cameras mounted on cruise missiles and stealth bombers, and
he'll be
able to have sex again for a week or two afterward.


It's a shame I agreed to stopping personal insults.

But John....it's true. You know that. How else can one explain spastic
foreign policy decisions? Over the past couple of years, I've given you
a
number of possible explanations including complete incompetence, or a
sick
need for sexual excitement derived from violence. Pick one.


I'm posting this only to show basskisser that it is possible to ignore
written
material. Also, it is possible to entertain thoughts without resorting
to
personal insults.

I haven't insulted you, unless you're one of those guys who takes it
personally when someone disagrees with his choice of TV, lawnmower or
car. I'm simply pointing out that when you strip away all the valid,
sane reasons (which do not apply to our foreign policy lately), the only
ones left are the bizarre.


What's bizarre is the inability to see the good things happening in the
Middle East right now as a result of Bush's policies. One would have to
be stupid or ignorant to not see it. Which are you? (Pick one).



I'm someone who does not agree with this statement of foreign policy:
U.S. to Arab World: "Stop hating us, or suffer the consequences".


I think the message is "We don't care if you hate us, but leave our
interests and people the F*** alone. If you mess with us, we'll invade your
****ty ass country, kick out the government, and let the suppressed people
finally chose their own leader."



NOYB March 8th 05 01:10 PM


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:27:03 -0500, DSK wrote:

What's bizarre is the inability to see the good things happening in the
Middle East right now as a result of Bush's policies.


Like what?

... One would have to
be stupid or ignorant to not see it. Which are you? (Pick one).


One would have to be either high on cheap drugs, or very thoroughly
insulated from reality, to actually believe that Bush/Cheney's policy's
have had anything to do with "good things happening in the Middle East"
other than Iraq's recent election.


Doug Kanter wrote:
I'm someone who does not agree with this statement of foreign policy:
U.S. to Arab World: "Stop hating us, or suffer the consequences". You
know
it's true, although you're too small to admit it publicly.


Maybe, he admitted last week that he was wrong about something else.
Reality may be seeping in through the wrinkles in his tinfoil beanie.

DSK


I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last week.
They
both had good things to say.


Hillary Clinton is planning for her Senate run in 2006, and the Presidential
run in 2008. She knows that it'd be political suicide to act like nothing
good is happening in the Middle East when the average person can see with
their own eyes that the Berlin Wall has fallen for the second time under a
Bush.




NOYB March 8th 05 01:12 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week. They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion to
gain the trust of more voters.


The other day, I could have sworn that I saw a news clip of her picketing an
abortion clinic.



NOYB March 8th 05 03:59 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
m...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion
to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists, she
is
quite rational.



Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.



Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women.


A corrupt politician and an ex-con. That's interesting.




P.Fritz March 8th 05 04:23 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
om...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion
to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists, she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo
model image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.



Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women.


A corrupt politician and an ex-con. That's interesting.


'Appropriate' would have been a better word :-)

They are also well known liars. :-)








Doug Kanter March 8th 05 05:22 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
om...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion
to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists, she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo
model image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.



Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women.


A corrupt politician and an ex-con. That's interesting.


What's so bad about corrupt politicians? After all, you reelected Drek
Cheney. Let's not be two-faced about this, OK?



NOYB March 8th 05 05:36 PM


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very
rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion
to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists,
she is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo
model image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.


Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women.


A corrupt politician and an ex-con. That's interesting.


What's so bad about corrupt politicians? After all, you reelected Drek
Cheney. Let's not be two-faced about this, OK?


The difference is that I don't consider him one of "my favorite well-known
contentemporary" men.






Calif Bill March 8th 05 06:28 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion

to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists, she
is
quite rational.



Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo

model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two sons
who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her house
for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No return to
investors. Yes, your type women.



John H March 8th 05 07:52 PM

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:44:19 -0500, DSK wrote:

And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your thinking.


John H wrote:
Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


I knew that the Devil can quote Scripture but I never expected to see
one of rec.boats resident fascit boneheads quoting Hillary Clinton to
support one of his absurd assertions.

As for my influence, of course you reject intelligent & factual input,
that's why you're a member of the Krause-obessed fascist whacko clique.

DSK


So Hillary and Joe Biden are now making absurd assertions?

Did I somehow cause you to find it necessary to resort to name calling? I called
Hillary rationa. If you find the only way you can maintain a conversation is by
name-calling and insults, find someone else.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H March 8th 05 08:01 PM

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 13:05:58 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists, she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.


Yup, she's always been more rational than some of the wild eyed extremists
running around, to include Pelosi, Reid, and some of the well-known folks right
here.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H March 8th 05 08:03 PM

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:59:03 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
om...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion
to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists, she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.



Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women.


A corrupt politician and an ex-con. That's interesting.



Just think, NYOB, if not for you I would never have known that two of Harry's
favorite women were Hillary and Martha. Thank you.

I wonder if anyone really gives a rat's ass?


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H March 8th 05 08:07 PM

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:28:55 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary illusion

to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists, she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo

model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two sons
who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her house
for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No return to
investors. Yes, your type women.

Harry likes her because K-Mart and not WalMart carry the Martha Stewart line.
Kmart must be unionized.

It's also the most miserable store I've ever been in.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

DSK March 8th 05 08:12 PM

John H wrote:
So Hillary and Joe Biden are now making absurd assertions?


I don't know, since I don't pay much attention to either of them.

Did I somehow cause you to find it necessary to resort to name calling?


No, it's not necessary, it's optional. Are you not obsessed with Harry
Krause? Is it name-calling if it's true?

DSK


NOYB March 8th 05 08:56 PM


"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:28:55 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK
wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very
rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary
illusion

to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists,
she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo

model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two sons
who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her house
for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No return
to
investors. Yes, your type women.

Harry likes her because K-Mart and not WalMart carry the Martha Stewart
line.
Kmart must be unionized.

It's also the most miserable store I've ever been in.


Careful now. They've merged with Sears...and I *love* Sears' hardware
department.



NOYB March 8th 05 09:15 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:28:55 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Doug Kanter wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK
wrote:



John H wrote:


I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite
last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very
rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary
illusion

to

gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists,
she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo

model

image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two
sons
who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her
house
for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No return
to
investors. Yes, your type women.


Harry likes her because K-Mart and not WalMart carry the Martha Stewart
line.
Kmart must be unionized.

It's also the most miserable store I've ever been in.



Careful now. They've merged with Sears...and I *love* Sears' hardware
department.




I like Martha and Hillary because they are smart, tough, feisty women who
don't take crap from anyone. If Martha were a man,


Are you sure she isn't? You've never seen her in her birthday suit.



John H March 8th 05 10:07 PM

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:56:55 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:28:55 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK
wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very
rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary
illusion
to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists,
she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo
model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two sons
who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her house
for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No return
to
investors. Yes, your type women.

Harry likes her because K-Mart and not WalMart carry the Martha Stewart
line.
Kmart must be unionized.

It's also the most miserable store I've ever been in.


Careful now. They've merged with Sears...and I *love* Sears' hardware
department.


As long as they don't stock up on Martha Stewart Select Metric Socket Sets. Of
course they'd come in a box with a ribbon and fancy bow.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H March 8th 05 10:09 PM

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:12:14 -0500, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
So Hillary and Joe Biden are now making absurd assertions?


I don't know, since I don't pay much attention to either of them.

Did I somehow cause you to find it necessary to resort to name calling?


No, it's not necessary, it's optional. Are you not obsessed with Harry
Krause? Is it name-calling if it's true?

DSK


When have you last seen me call Harry a name? Not recently.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Calif Bill March 9th 05 02:32 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:28:55 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:



"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK
wrote:



John H wrote:


I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite

last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very
rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary
illusion

to

gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists,
she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo

model

image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two

sons
who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her

house
for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No

return
to
investors. Yes, your type women.


Harry likes her because K-Mart and not WalMart carry the Martha Stewart
line.
Kmart must be unionized.

It's also the most miserable store I've ever been in.



Careful now. They've merged with Sears...and I *love* Sears' hardware
department.




I like Martha and Hillary because they are smart, tough, feisty women
who don't take crap from anyone. If Martha were a man, she wouldn't have
been prosecuted for that bit of bullship. Oh, and Martha not only knows
how to fish in salt water, she can clean and cook her catch!

One more reason to like Hillary: she drives many right-wingers
absolutely nuts. Sweet.


Yup, crooked like union bosses. You want a strong, powerful women
executive. Opra!



Calif Bill March 9th 05 02:39 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:28:55 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK
wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite

last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very
rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary
illusion
to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal extremists,
she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo
model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two

sons
who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her

house
for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No return
to
investors. Yes, your type women.

Harry likes her because K-Mart and not WalMart carry the Martha Stewart
line.
Kmart must be unionized.

It's also the most miserable store I've ever been in.


Careful now. They've merged with Sears...and I *love* Sears' hardware
department.



Sears hardware department used to be great. Now, other than tools, there is
nada. They also own OSH Orchard Supply and Hardware in the west. Is a
great hardware store. They were going to divest of OSH, until they found
that 12% of the entire chains profit came from those few stores.
Bill



NOYB March 9th 05 03:10 AM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:28:55 GMT, "Calif Bill"

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Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK
wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite

last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very
rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary
illusion
to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal
extremists,
she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo
model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two

sons
who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her

house
for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No
return
to
investors. Yes, your type women.

Harry likes her because K-Mart and not WalMart carry the Martha Stewart
line.
Kmart must be unionized.

It's also the most miserable store I've ever been in.


Careful now. They've merged with Sears...and I *love* Sears' hardware
department.



Sears hardware department used to be great. Now, other than tools, there
is
nada.


Come to think of it, you're right. I was disappointed the last time I went
by the mall and stopped in Sears hardware dept.




Calif Bill March 9th 05 04:31 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK
wrote:




John H wrote:



I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite


last

week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK

Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very
rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary
illusion

to


gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal

extremists,
she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo

model


image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two


sons

who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her


house

for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No


return

to
investors. Yes, your type women.


Harry likes her because K-Mart and not WalMart carry the Martha

Stewart
line.
Kmart must be unionized.

It's also the most miserable store I've ever been in.


Careful now. They've merged with Sears...and I *love* Sears' hardware
department.




I like Martha and Hillary because they are smart, tough, feisty women
who don't take crap from anyone. If Martha were a man, she wouldn't have
been prosecuted for that bit of bullship. Oh, and Martha not only knows
how to fish in salt water, she can clean and cook her catch!

One more reason to like Hillary: she drives many right-wingers
absolutely nuts. Sweet.



Yup, crooked like union bosses. You want a strong, powerful women
executive. Opra!




Oh, I like Oprah, too. She's my choice for President.


You have already stated you are for Hillary.



John H March 9th 05 12:10 PM

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:10:23 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:28:55 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:27:29 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:41:31 -0500, DSK
wrote:


John H wrote:

I guess Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden were higher than a kite

last
week.
They
both had good things to say.


And Hillary Clinton is of course a definitive influence on your
thinking.

DSK


Much more of an influence than you, Doug! She's getting very
rational.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

She is setting the stage for a run in 2008. Just a temporary
illusion
to
gain the trust of more voters.


It's all relative, but compared to *some* of the liberal
extremists,
she
is
quite rational.


Actually, she always HAS been. But, since she doesn't fit the Cosmo
model
image, she doesn't garner favor with children like JimH.




Hillary Clinton and Martha Stewart are two of my favorite well-known
contemporary women. My all-time favorite woman of history remains
Eleanor of Aquitaine, who was married to two kings, and who had two

sons
who became kings.



Yes, makes sense. Martha Stewart, an Enron type executive. Insider
trading, Collects 80% of the corporate income to herself. Rents her

house
for the filimg for $2mm a year. How much is the house worth? No
return
to
investors. Yes, your type women.

Harry likes her because K-Mart and not WalMart carry the Martha Stewart
line.
Kmart must be unionized.

It's also the most miserable store I've ever been in.

Careful now. They've merged with Sears...and I *love* Sears' hardware
department.



Sears hardware department used to be great. Now, other than tools, there
is
nada.


Come to think of it, you're right. I was disappointed the last time I went
by the mall and stopped in Sears hardware dept.


They're carrying too many whiz-bang gadgets that do everything, and it's hard as
hell to find something like a normal claw hammer. The people they're hiring
don't know what the tools are, and don't know where the tools are if they *can*
figure out what you're talking about. Luckily, I'm old enough now to have all
the socket sets I need, and about ten times as many screwdrivers as I need.

I think maybe Martha Stewart is designing the layout of the place.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


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