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Saddam's 17 Volumes of Enjoyable Reading - OT
Here you will find a table of contents for Saddam's volumes. You'll note that
very few weapons programs are mentioned. The stuff he provided was primarily old, worthless crap. Note the date, 7 December, 2002. http://www.fas.org/irp/news/2002/12/iraq120702.pdf Here is the UNMOVIC report of 6 March, 2003. Turn to page 19 of the report for a listing of weapons and chemical systems of concern in the report. Then go to the specific pages for the weapons and look at the recommended Iraqi actions. You will see that in almost every case, one of the recommendations is 'to provide documentation to show the disposition and account for the weapon or system. http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/6mar.pdf If, Chuck and Doug, your Saddam volumes were so worthwhile, then why is documentation being requested for virtually every weapon system of interest to UNMOVIC? John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
Let's make this real simple, John.
The volumes of material that Iraq supplied in compliance with the UN deadline essentially said, "We ain't got no stinkin' WMD." Bush, on the other hand, said "That claim is a lie. All 17 volumes are lies." Ok. Based on the premise that the denial was "all lies" and the pointed suggestion during the SOTU speech that Iraq was on the verge of developing nuclear weapons capable of attacking the United States, all the Republican faithful began beating the war drums until Congress was pressured to OK the Iraq attack. Funny thing happened on the way into (and out of) Baghdad......the claim of the 17 volumes, that there were not WMD in Iraq, was proven to be essentially true. Our invasion proved Bush to be the (I'll be kind here) "mistaken" one on the WMD issue, so, of course, he immediately changed his story about why he had asked us to go to war in the first place. Typical. No matter how you spin the contents, those basic facts always come out the same. |
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I don't believe your quote. Please show me. I refer to, "That claim is
a lie. All 17 volumes are lies." ***************** You'll have to find that one yourself. "All Lies" is exactly what Bush said when asked about the 17 volumes of material. Unfortunately, when I entered Lies Weapons Iraq Report Bush into my search engine, I got almost 21,000 hits. Virtually all detailed lies told *by* Bush, rather than a comment by Bush that the reports from Iraq were lies. I don't have time to sort through there for you, but if you care to do so you will find the quote buried in there, someplace. |
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JohnH wrote:
I would respectfully suggest that is bull**** **************** But you would rather "suggest" and waste time (allegedly) typing in a completely different search criteria than enter exactly what I told you I entered and seeing, for yourself, that the result is as I reported. Typical neo-con, John. If the facts don't suit you, ignore them and/or make up some you like better. When all else fails, try to switch the subject or divert to flame war with a personal insult |
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Speaking of lies, John H set up an interesting experiment when he
claimed: The number of hits you got was quite small. When I put in 'gould lies' I get the following: Results 1 - 10 of about 254,000 for gould lies ***************** Funny, I got 3,302 pages with 10 entires per page, or 33,020. Long way fron 254,000. So what did I do wrong, John, or is your claim of 254,000 hits as flimsy as your logic? |
On 5 Mar 2005 15:58:40 -0800, wrote:
JohnH wrote: I would respectfully suggest that is bull**** **************** But you would rather "suggest" and waste time (allegedly) typing in a completely different search criteria than enter exactly what I told you I entered and seeing, for yourself, that the result is as I reported. Typical neo-con, John. If the facts don't suit you, ignore them and/or make up some you like better. When all else fails, try to switch the subject or divert to flame war with a personal insult Chuck, here's a site that has just about every negative thing that could be said about Bush and his administration and the Iraq war. You'll be able to find all kinds of things to cut and paste about administration dishonesty, failures, miscalculations, ineptness, and general stupidity. I'm surprised Jimcomma hasn't found this and totally deluged the group with cut'n'pastes from this site. I could find *nothing* about Saddam's 17 volumes. http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_lies.html Good luck. John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On 5 Mar 2005 16:19:15 -0800, wrote:
Speaking of lies, John H set up an interesting experiment when he claimed: The number of hits you got was quite small. When I put in 'gould lies' I get the following: Results 1 - 10 of about 254,000 for gould lies ***************** Funny, I got 3,302 pages with 10 entires per page, or 33,020. Long way fron 254,000. So what did I do wrong, John, or is your claim of 254,000 hits as flimsy as your logic? Perhaps we used a different search engine? I used 'Google' and copied and pasted the line you see in my message. Here, I'll try to send a little more of the page. ************************************************** ******** Go to Google Home Web Images Groups News Froogle LocalNew! more » Advanced Search Preferences Web Results 1 - 10 of about 254,000 for gould lies. (0.25 seconds) God, Gould and NOMA - God’s Truth or Pious Lies? Science or ... God, Gould and NOMA. Better with Javascript on! ... Adelphiasophism is it. The Testament of Stephen J Gould. What is the consequence of NOMA for science? ... www.askwhy.co.uk/truth/420GouldNOMA.html - 70k - Cached - Similar pages La Lutta Programs .... Gould, as a matter of honor and scientific responsibility, felt the book was a critical bulwark against the lies of work such as the onerous and fictitious The ... www.lalutta.org/dispatch/gould.html - 9k - Cached - Similar pages Unofficial SJG Archive - Book Reviews .... really is one-sided. The interest of Stephen Jay Gould's latest book really lies in watching the author's intelligence at play.". ... www.stephenjaygould.org/reviews/ - 24k - Cached - Similar pages Stephen Jay Gould, "Nonoverlapping Magisteria," 1997 ... by Stephen Jay Gould. ... He accepts the standard model of NOMA and begins by acknowledging that evolution lies in a difficult area where the domains press hard ... www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_noma.html - 34k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.stephenjaygould.org ] Stephen Jay Gould Quotes Stephen Jay Gould The proof of evolution lies in those adaptations that arise from improbable foundations. Atlas, Dictionary, Encyclopedia, ... www.brainyquote.com/quotes/ quotes/s/stephenjay160912.html - 16k - Cached - Similar pages CancerGuide: The Median Isn't the Message .... The Median Isn't the Message by Stephen Jay Gould. ... to Disraeli), identifies three species of mendacity, each worse than the one before - lies, damned lies, and .... www.cancerguide.org/median_not_msg.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages Secrets and Lies .... Secrets and Lies Marléne Burger and Chandré Gould. ISBN: 1868723410. Language: English. Format: 230mm x 150mm. Binding: Paperback. Pages: 304. ... www.struik.co.za/Zebra%20Press/ book.book.detail.action?id=1704&curcat=51 - 25k - Cached - Similar pages Boredguru.com: Price & Review : Buy A Devil's Chaplain ... .... piece, Dawkins reflects on his late rival Stephen Jay Gould's magnum opus .... Houghton Mifflin Title - A Devil's Chaplain : Reflections on Hope, Lies, Science, and ... http://www.boredguru.com/shop/page_u...35404_0_0.html - 33k - Cached - Similar pages Stephen E. Jones: Creation/Evolution quotes: History #2b: Darwin's ... .... the difference between a lie and the truth." (Plimer IR, "Telling Lies for God ... sailed on the Beagle as a companion to Captain Fitzroy." (Gould SJ, "Darwin's Sea ... members.iinet.net.au/~sejones/histry2b.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages LOUISA GOULD GALLERY .... All images in the exhibit are limited edition. Ship to Shore that is Vineyard ships and Vineyard shore is where Ms. Gould’s heart lies. ... www.louisagould.com/8-1-2004.htm - 9k - Cached - Similar pages Result Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next *************************************** Chuck, I've never lied to you or anyone else on this newsgroup, and have no intention of starting. If lying bothers you, you really should say something to those who seem to revel in it. John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
2000 or so Gould Lies must have been investigated and proven true. :-)
Using the same search engine, I got: Web Results 1 - 10 of about 252,000 for gould lies. (0.35 seconds) God, Gould and NOMA - God=92s Truth or Pious Lies? Science or ... God, Gould and NOMA. Better with Javascript on! ... Adelphiasophism is it. The Testament of Stephen J Gould. What is the consequence of NOMA for science? ... www.askwhy.co.uk/truth/420GouldNOMA.html - 70k - Cached - Similar pages La Lutta Programs ..=2E. Gould, as a matter of honor and scientific responsibility, felt the book was a critical bulwark against the lies of work such as the onerous and fictitious The ..=2E. www.lalutta.org/dispatch/gould.html - 9k - Cached - Similar pages Unofficial SJG Archive - Book Reviews ..=2E. really is one-sided. The interest of Stephen Jay Gould's latest book really lies in watching the author's intelligence at play.". ... www.stephenjaygould.org/reviews/ - 24k - Cached - Similar pages Stephen Jay Gould, "Nonoverlapping Magisteria," 1997 ..=2E. by Stephen Jay Gould. ... He accepts the standard model of NOMA and begins by acknowledging that evolution lies in a difficult area where the domains press hard ..=2E. www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_noma.html - 34k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.stephenjaygould.org ] Stephen Jay Gould Quotes Stephen Jay Gould The proof of evolution lies in those adaptations that arise from improbable foundations. Atlas, Dictionary, Encyclopedia, ... www.brainyquote.com/quotes/ quotes/s/stephenjay160912.html - 16k - Cached - Similar pages CancerGuide: The Median Isn't the Message ..=2E. The Median Isn't the Message by Stephen Jay Gould. ... to Disraeli), identifies three species of mendacity, each worse than the one before - lies, damned lies, and ... www.cancerguide.org/median_not_msg.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages Secrets and Lies ..=2E. Secrets and Lies Marl=E9ne Burger and Chandr=E9 Gould. ISBN: 1868723410. Language: English. Format: 230mm x 150mm. Binding: Paperback. Pages: 304. ... www.struik.co.za/Zebra%20Press/ book.book.detail.action?id=3D1704&curcat=3D51 - 25k - Cached - Similar pages Boredguru.com: Price & Review : Buy A Devil's Chaplain ... ..=2E. piece, Dawkins reflects on his late rival Stephen Jay Gould's magnum opus ... Houghton Mifflin Title - A Devil's Chaplain : Reflections on Hope, Lies, Science, and ... http://www.boredguru.com/shop/page_u...35404_0_0.html - 33k - Cached - Similar pages Stephen E. Jones: Creation/Evolution quotes: History #2b: Darwin's ... ..=2E. the difference between a lie and the truth." (Plimer IR, "Telling Lies for God ... sailed on the Beagle as a companion to Captain Fitzroy." (Gould SJ, "Darwin's Sea ... members.iinet.net.au/~sejones/histry2b.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages LOUISA GOULD GALLERY ..=2E. All images in the exhibit are limited edition. Ship to Shore that is Vineyard ships and Vineyard shore is where Ms. Gould=92s heart lies. ... www.louisagould.com/8-1-2004.htm - 9k - Cached - Similar pages |
I see the problem. A Search "enhanced by Google" is not the same as a
search by Google. Sorry that I doubted you had made the claimed search. I apologize. Another odd item, the results are not consistent. 2000 Gould lies are missing from Google this evening, but my other search engine has compiled a huge increase, (about 20 thousand) since earlier this PM. I must have been lying my arse off all afternoon, but fooling the heck out of Google. Matching Sites | Page 1 of 5194 Learn more about Matching Sites God, Gould and NOMA - God=92s Truth or Pious Lies? Science or ... - God, Gould and NOMA. Better with Javascript on! ... Adelphiasophism is it. The Testament of Stephen J Gould. What is the consequence of NOMA for science? ... http://www.askwhy.co.uk/truth/420GouldNOMA.html La Lutta Programs - ... Gould, as a matter of honor and scientific responsibility, felt the book was a critical bulwark against the lies of work such as the onerous and fictitious The ... http://www.lalutta.org/dispatch/gould.html Unofficial SJG Archive - Book Reviews - ... really is one-sided. The interest of Stephen Jay Gould's latest book really lies in watching the author's intelligence at play.". ... http://www.stephenjaygould.org/reviews/ Stephen Jay Gould, "Nonoverlapping Magisteria," 1997 - ... by Stephen Jay Gould. ... He accepts the standard model of NOMA and begins by acknowledging that evolution lies in a difficult area where the domains press hard ... http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_noma.html [More results from www.stephenjaygould.org] Stephen Jay Gould Quotes - Stephen Jay Gould The proof of evolution lies in those adaptations that arise from improbable foundations. Atlas, Dictionary, Encyclopedia, ... http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...jay160912.html CancerGuide: The Median Isn't the Message - ... The Median Isn't the Message by Stephen Jay Gould. ... to Disraeli), identifies three species of mendacity, each worse than the one before - lies, damned lies, and ... http://www.cancerguide.org/median_not_msg.html Secrets and Lies - ... Secrets and Lies Marl=E9ne Burger and Chandr=E9 Gould. ISBN: 1868723410. Language: English. Format: 230mm x 150mm. Binding: Paperback. Pages: 304. ... http://www.struik.co.za/Zebra%20Pres...id=3D1704&cur= cat=3D51 Boredguru.com: Price & Review : Buy A Devil's Chaplain ... - ... piece, Dawkins reflects on his late rival Stephen Jay Gould's magnum opus ... Houghton Mifflin Title - A Devil's Chaplain : Reflections on Hope, Lies, Science, and ... http://www.boredguru.com/shop/page_u...35404_0_0.html Stephen E. Jones: Creation/Evolution quotes: History #2b: Darwin's ... - ... the difference between a lie and the truth." (Plimer IR, "Telling Lies for God ... sailed on the Beagle as a companion to Captain Fitzroy." (Gould SJ, "Darwin's Sea ... http://members.iinet.net.au/~sejones/histry2b.html LOUISA GOULD GALLERY - ... All images in the exhibit are limited edition. Ship to Shore that is Vineyard ships and Vineyard shore is where Ms. Gould=92s heart lies. ... http://www.louisagould.com/8-1-2004.htm |
I think all those who are writing about Gould lies are liars!
On 5 Mar 2005 21:44:37 -0800, wrote: 2000 or so Gould Lies must have been investigated and proven true. :-) Using the same search engine, I got: Web Results 1 - 10 of about 252,000 for gould lies. (0.35 seconds) God, Gould and NOMA - God? Truth or Pious Lies? Science or ... God, Gould and NOMA. Better with Javascript on! ... Adelphiasophism is it. The Testament of Stephen J Gould. What is the consequence of NOMA for science? ... www.askwhy.co.uk/truth/420GouldNOMA.html - 70k - Cached - Similar pages La Lutta Programs ... Gould, as a matter of honor and scientific responsibility, felt the book was a critical bulwark against the lies of work such as the onerous and fictitious The ... www.lalutta.org/dispatch/gould.html - 9k - Cached - Similar pages Unofficial SJG Archive - Book Reviews ... really is one-sided. The interest of Stephen Jay Gould's latest book really lies in watching the author's intelligence at play.". ... www.stephenjaygould.org/reviews/ - 24k - Cached - Similar pages Stephen Jay Gould, "Nonoverlapping Magisteria," 1997 ... by Stephen Jay Gould. ... He accepts the standard model of NOMA and begins by acknowledging that evolution lies in a difficult area where the domains press hard ... www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_noma.html - 34k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.stephenjaygould.org ] Stephen Jay Gould Quotes Stephen Jay Gould The proof of evolution lies in those adaptations that arise from improbable foundations. Atlas, Dictionary, Encyclopedia, ... www.brainyquote.com/quotes/ quotes/s/stephenjay160912.html - 16k - Cached - Similar pages CancerGuide: The Median Isn't the Message ... The Median Isn't the Message by Stephen Jay Gould. ... to Disraeli), identifies three species of mendacity, each worse than the one before - lies, damned lies, and ... www.cancerguide.org/median_not_msg.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages Secrets and Lies ... Secrets and Lies Marl? Burger and Chandr?ould. ISBN: 1868723410. Language: English. Format: 230mm x 150mm. Binding: Paperback. Pages: 304. ... www.struik.co.za/Zebra%20Press/ book.book.detail.action?id=1704&curcat=51 - 25k - Cached - Similar pages Boredguru.com: Price & Review : Buy A Devil's Chaplain ... ... piece, Dawkins reflects on his late rival Stephen Jay Gould's magnum opus ... Houghton Mifflin Title - A Devil's Chaplain : Reflections on Hope, Lies, Science, and ... http://www.boredguru.com/shop/page_u...35404_0_0.html - 33k - Cached - Similar pages Stephen E. Jones: Creation/Evolution quotes: History #2b: Darwin's ... ... the difference between a lie and the truth." (Plimer IR, "Telling Lies for God ... sailed on the Beagle as a companion to Captain Fitzroy." (Gould SJ, "Darwin's Sea ... members.iinet.net.au/~sejones/histry2b.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages LOUISA GOULD GALLERY ... All images in the exhibit are limited edition. Ship to Shore that is Vineyard ships and Vineyard shore is where Ms. Gould? heart lies. ... www.louisagould.com/8-1-2004.htm - 9k - Cached - Similar pages John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
Between the two of us, we have over a half-million lies! That must be worth
something to someone. :-) John On 5 Mar 2005 21:50:01 -0800, wrote: I see the problem. A Search "enhanced by Google" is not the same as a search by Google. Sorry that I doubted you had made the claimed search. I apologize. Another odd item, the results are not consistent. 2000 Gould lies are missing from Google this evening, but my other search engine has compiled a huge increase, (about 20 thousand) since earlier this PM. I must have been lying my arse off all afternoon, but fooling the heck out of Google. Matching Sites | Page 1 of 5194 Learn more about Matching Sites God, Gould and NOMA - God? Truth or Pious Lies? Science or ... - God, Gould and NOMA. Better with Javascript on! ... Adelphiasophism is it. The Testament of Stephen J Gould. What is the consequence of NOMA for science? ... http://www.askwhy.co.uk/truth/420GouldNOMA.html La Lutta Programs - ... Gould, as a matter of honor and scientific responsibility, felt the book was a critical bulwark against the lies of work such as the onerous and fictitious The ... http://www.lalutta.org/dispatch/gould.html Unofficial SJG Archive - Book Reviews - ... really is one-sided. The interest of Stephen Jay Gould's latest book really lies in watching the author's intelligence at play.". ... http://www.stephenjaygould.org/reviews/ Stephen Jay Gould, "Nonoverlapping Magisteria," 1997 - ... by Stephen Jay Gould. ... He accepts the standard model of NOMA and begins by acknowledging that evolution lies in a difficult area where the domains press hard ... http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_noma.html [More results from www.stephenjaygould.org] Stephen Jay Gould Quotes - Stephen Jay Gould The proof of evolution lies in those adaptations that arise from improbable foundations. Atlas, Dictionary, Encyclopedia, ... http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...jay160912.html CancerGuide: The Median Isn't the Message - ... The Median Isn't the Message by Stephen Jay Gould. ... to Disraeli), identifies three species of mendacity, each worse than the one before - lies, damned lies, and ... http://www.cancerguide.org/median_not_msg.html Secrets and Lies - ... Secrets and Lies Marl? Burger and Chandr?Gould. ISBN: 1868723410. Language: English. Format: 230mm x 150mm. Binding: Paperback. Pages: 304. ... http://www.struik.co.za/Zebra%20Pres...1704&curcat=51 Boredguru.com: Price & Review : Buy A Devil's Chaplain ... - ... piece, Dawkins reflects on his late rival Stephen Jay Gould's magnum opus ... Houghton Mifflin Title - A Devil's Chaplain : Reflections on Hope, Lies, Science, and ... http://www.boredguru.com/shop/page_u...35404_0_0.html Stephen E. Jones: Creation/Evolution quotes: History #2b: Darwin's ... - ... the difference between a lie and the truth." (Plimer IR, "Telling Lies for God ... sailed on the Beagle as a companion to Captain Fitzroy." (Gould SJ, "Darwin's Sea ... http://members.iinet.net.au/~sejones/histry2b.html LOUISA GOULD GALLERY - ... All images in the exhibit are limited edition. Ship to Shore that is Vineyard ships and Vineyard shore is where Ms. Gould? heart lies. ... http://www.louisagould.com/8-1-2004.htm John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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