AMEN! As far as I can tell, this newsgroup is dead. I received some help,
and gave some (I hope), but last years election destroyed this group.
Filtering doesn't help unfortunately. I hope we can recover.

--Mike

wrote in message
ups.com...

Milky-G wrote:
Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be
the
political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I
already
unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.

The title is deceiving. Years ago this was a boating newsgroup.
Today, most of the frequent posters to the NG are non-boaters.
Most of the so called "threads" are just blatant political trolls, and
lately one group of like-minded individuals sharing a common poliltical
and philosophical view of the world have specialized in launching
threads for the sole purpose of name calling and other juvenile
behavior.

Nobody would seriously expect a newcomer to hang around here. The
boating aspect of rec.boats is dead as a doornail. When somebody makes
a boating related statement, he or she can expect long-winded, mean
spirited responses from people who disagree on the subject but who
cannot express their contrary opinion in a civil, responsible tone.

This NG is becoming a toilet. No point hanging around hoping it will
get better, as some of the perpetrators have publicly expressed, in
this forum, that their goal in rec.boats NG is to screw it up as badly
as they can.

Worse yet, nearly all are gulty of at least some bad behavior- myself
included.
Get the heck out of the asylum while there's still time. Flee for your
life, man!

"Milky-G" wrote in message
...
Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the
political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already
unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.

Milky,

All you need to do is set up some filters, and kill file some cronic
abusers.

Filter out stuff like "war, ot, bush, kerry, iraq, election, troops, etc".

And kill file those who post off-topic, and those you feed those trolls.
There was this boatless clown named Harry Krause...I think he is still
around...kill filing him alone will cut down on 50% of the garbage here.

Good luck.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 23:03:55 -0500, "Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd."
wrote:

Harry,
If anyone can take responsibility for the tone of rec.boats, it is you.



See, Harry's attacks are neither vicious nor obnoxious. His attacks, although
almost continuous from what I can see, are gentlemanly and welcomed.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

It is the viciousness of some of these posters I find obnoxious.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Dr. Jonathan Smithers, MD Phd." wrote in message
...
Harry,
If anyone can take responsibility for the tone of rec.boats, it is you.

Harry complaing about the 'viciousness' of posts........LMAO.......I think
he's trying to contend for the "King" title




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Milky-G wrote:

Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be

the

political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I

already

unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.


The title is deceiving. Years ago this was a boating newsgroup.
Today, most of the frequent posters to the NG are non-boaters.
Most of the so called "threads" are just blatant political trolls, and
lately one group of like-minded individuals sharing a common poliltical
and philosophical view of the world have specialized in launching
threads for the sole purpose of name calling and other juvenile
behavior.

Nobody would seriously expect a newcomer to hang around here. The
boating aspect of rec.boats is dead as a doornail. When somebody makes
a boating related statement, he or she can expect long-winded, mean
spirited responses from people who disagree on the subject but who
cannot express their contrary opinion in a civil, responsible tone.

This NG is becoming a toilet. No point hanging around hoping it will
get better, as some of the perpetrators have publicly expressed, in
this forum, that their goal in rec.boats NG is to screw it up as badly
as they can.

Worse yet, nearly all are gulty of at least some bad behavior- myself
included.
Get the heck out of the asylum while there's still time. Flee for your
life, man!



I think you've understated the problem, Chuckster.


There are about a half-dozen posters here who either never post about a
boating topic or do so so infrequently that I cannot recall their last
on-topic "contribution."

Now, off-topic posting doesn't offend me. I'm as guilty as anyone of
this. I either read an off-topic post or I don't.

It is the viciousness of some of these posters I find obnoxious. So
obnoxious that I have filtered most of them out. They are here solely as
attack dogs, as far as I can tell. I believe their purpose in showing up
here is to destroy this newsgroup. They're pretty much succeeded.

We also have two infrequent posters here who start nearly violent
arguments on on-topic matters with almost every post. One, a sailboater,
argues minor issues to the point of nauseum. The other gets off by
posting incredible long and horribly written psychotic screeds about
those on that individual's "s-list."

Within these groups are a couple of individuals who log on here solely to
create problems of some sort for those they do not like. If there is a
lower life form on usenet, I'm unaware of it.

I don't spend much time here anymore. When I take breaks from work and
want to read a bit on subjects that interest me, or engage in reasonable
discourse, I head to places where there are fewer droolers.

I don't know if this newsgroup can recover.

"Netsock" wrote in message
...
Netsock wrote:
"Milky-G" wrote in message
...

Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the
political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already
unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.


Milky,

All you need to do is set up some filters, and kill file some cronic
abusers.

Filter out stuff like "war, ot, bush, kerry, iraq, election, troops,
etc".

And kill file those who post off-topic, and those you feed those trolls.
There was this boatless clown named Harry Krause...I think he is still
around...kill filing him alone will cut down on 50% of the garbage here.

Good luck.


Or you could simply filter out Netsock and his many identities here.

Is that you Kruase? Wow, long time no chat, however, I still see you are the
liar you have always been.

I have only one handle...Netsock. I used to use my real name, but changed
years ago because of harvesting. It is the only handle I have ever posted
here under.

And not only that, but our village idiot also muddles his own identity to
slip by filters. I have at least 6 entries for him. Hmmm, the words pot,
kettle, and black come to mind. :)

None the less, I'm flattered that the boatless liar Kruase feels the need to
respond to me...it feels good to still be able to get under his skin...even
when he is in my kill file. [huge grin]

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

"Harry Kruase" wrote in message
...
Then again it probably is my evil twin that makes me do this.

Heh heh...

For a grown man, you sure are an immature sap.

But I suppose jealousy is a powerful emotion, wouldn't you agree Harry? :)

Good luck in life...you sure need it...


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:35:43 -0500, "Milky-G" wrote:

Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the
political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already
unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.

Yes, your mistake. This group is my very own platform to show my vast
and superior boating knowledge.

You should consider yourself lucky, I dont contact your ISP, and have
you arrested.

Yahoo wrote:
Jim needs to go find a life, a damn asshole. Go rant somewhere else
you asswipe. This is for boating discussions douchebag


"Jim," wrote:


Milky-G wrote:

Obviously, this isn't the newsgroup I thought it was. This must be the
political ranting, ego bashing, off topic forum that I thought I already
unsubscribed from last week. My mistake.



It is (at least nominally) There IS some good information to be had
here -- Unfortunately of late things have turned more into a bar brawl.

IF you have a boating question -- ask away -- maybe someone will break
away from the fight long enough to give you a reasonable answer.


And this coming from the keyboard of someone who identified himself as
" Where else have those fingers been?