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No Spam February 28th 05 05:32 PM

Bad news in Florida
 
No it's not another election.

Rescuers Look for 2 Lost Kayakers in Fla.



SUWANNEE, Fla. - Rescuers searched the Gulf of Mexico on Monday for two teenage boys who became separated from their companions when the weather turned bad during a kayaking trip, authorities said.

Full story: http://kevxml2adsl.verizon.net/_1_8U...&feed=ap&top=1


If anyone lives down that way, how about posting how this turns out.

Ken

No Spam February 28th 05 06:59 PM

It did not have a good ending.

Rescuers Find Lost Teen Kayakers Dead

http://kevxml2adsl.verizon.net/_1_WF...&feed=ap&top=1

My condolences to all involved.

Ken



"No Spam" wrote in message news:LAIUd.40241$f%5.1313@trndny03...
No it's not another election.

Rescuers Look for 2 Lost Kayakers in Fla.



SUWANNEE, Fla. - Rescuers searched the Gulf of Mexico on Monday for two teenage boys who became separated from their companions when the weather turned bad during a kayaking trip, authorities said.

Full story: http://kevxml2adsl.verizon.net/_1_8U...&feed=ap&top=1


If anyone lives down that way, how about posting how this turns out.

Ken

Brian Nystrom March 1st 05 12:53 PM

No Spam wrote:
It did not have a good ending.

*Rescuers Find Lost Teen Kayakers Dead *


The "chaperons" took a group of kid out on the gulf with no other means
of summoning help than a friggin' cell phone?!? MORONS! Their ineptitude
cost two innocent kids their lives.

Fiona Stirling March 1st 05 02:11 PM

a four mile trip in florida that went wrong. this is a tradgety, three
foot waves and problems would suggest there was an experience issue.
canoes; and kayaks? ? ?
i would suspect they were on a very benign trip that turned sour.
my heart felt condolences to the parents and family's involved, i feel
for the leaders as well. they must feel pretty rough now and it will
likely get worse for them.
i have been out when things went wrong and likely owe my life to
friends that had the skill to shrug off foul weather and instill a
confidence that things would be okay. we had all types of flares,
radios, ropes, lights etc. none of it was used. there was more than
three foot waves though . i trust the party checked the forecast and
this is one of those terrible things.
once again my condolences to all involved.


Steve Landis March 1st 05 02:58 PM

Brian Nystrom wrote:
No Spam wrote:

It did not have a good ending.

*Rescuers Find Lost Teen Kayakers Dead *



The "chaperons" took a group of kid out on the gulf with no other means
of summoning help than a friggin' cell phone?!? MORONS! Their ineptitude
cost two innocent kids their lives.


It seems the trip leader was more than a chaperone...

from... http://tinyurl.com/4r28a

"The tour was led by an English teacher at the private Darlington
School, Steve Hall, who is a licensed outdoor tour guide and leads
several weekend adventure trips for teens throughout the year. A
spokeswoman for the school said Hall, who has 25 years in outdoor
education experience, has led a similar trip to that area for seven
years and never had any safety problems. According to Hall's outdoor
education trip Web site, he is an experienced river rafting guide."

not that Steve

No Spam March 2nd 05 12:48 AM

That was kind of my take on it. I take more precautions out on a lake. I
really hope the news story left out many details that would help explain the
seeming lack of preparation. Many times these things are a string of little
items that add up to disaster. You know the stories, the emergency bag was
left in the car, the tow line broke etc. It all snowballs until it is too
late. It is the experienced person that knows to recognize the little things
coming together and stops them before it's too late. I did see that the
chase boat had engine failure, so that was one item in the chain. I will
assume that there were others that conspired against this group. I hope to
see a complete story at some point in the future so that we can all see just
how something like this happens. It might prevent someone else from falling
in the same trap.

Ken

"Brian Nystrom" wrote in message
...
No Spam wrote:
It did not have a good ending.

*Rescuers Find Lost Teen Kayakers Dead *


The "chaperons" took a group of kid out on the gulf with no other means
of summoning help than a friggin' cell phone?!? MORONS! Their ineptitude
cost two innocent kids their lives.




Noone March 2nd 05 12:55 AM

A good read on the structure of accidents.

"Deep Survival - Who Lives, Who Dies, and Why" by Laurence Gonzales.



No Spam wrote:

That was kind of my take on it. I take more precautions out on a lake. I
really hope the news story left out many details that would help explain the
seeming lack of preparation. Many times these things are a string of little
items that add up to disaster. You know the stories, the emergency bag was
left in the car, the tow line broke etc. It all snowballs until it is too
late. It is the experienced person that knows to recognize the little things
coming together and stops them before it's too late. I did see that the
chase boat had engine failure, so that was one item in the chain. I will
assume that there were others that conspired against this group. I hope to
see a complete story at some point in the future so that we can all see just
how something like this happens. It might prevent someone else from falling
in the same trap.

Ken

"Brian Nystrom" wrote in message
...
No Spam wrote:
It did not have a good ending.

*Rescuers Find Lost Teen Kayakers Dead *


The "chaperons" took a group of kid out on the gulf with no other means
of summoning help than a friggin' cell phone?!? MORONS! Their ineptitude
cost two innocent kids their lives.



Wolfgang March 2nd 05 02:34 AM


"No Spam" wrote in message
news:j38Vd.38241$ya6.25850@trndny01...
That was kind of my take on it...


And many would agree.

I beg to differ. Reduce all of life's risks to the bare minimum and you end
up with a generation of children who grow up to live their lives on Usenet.

Wolfgang
who would rather see them drown.



rick March 2nd 05 02:44 AM


"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"No Spam" wrote in message
news:j38Vd.38241$ya6.25850@trndny01...
That was kind of my take on it...


And many would agree.

I beg to differ. Reduce all of life's risks to the bare
minimum and you end up with a generation of children who grow
up to live their lives on Usenet.

Wolfgang
who would rather see them drown.


wow






Wolfgang March 2nd 05 02:54 AM


"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"No Spam" wrote in message
news:j38Vd.38241$ya6.25850@trndny01...
That was kind of my take on it...


And many would agree.

I beg to differ. Reduce all of life's risks to the bare minimum and you
end up with a generation of children who grow up to live their lives on
Usenet.

Wolfgang
who would rather see them drown.


wow


Hey, they could grow up to be you.

Wolfgang




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