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Short Wave Sportfishing February 18th 05 12:05 PM

The homogenizing of Sirius...
 
I was wondering how long it was going to take Mel Karmazin to
homogenize Sirius once he took over.

About a month.

All my favorite stations are now top/pop 40 - no more cutting edge
music or electronica.

So ends my subscription.

Later,

Tom

basskisser February 18th 05 01:13 PM


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I was wondering how long it was going to take Mel Karmazin to
homogenize Sirius once he took over.

About a month.

All my favorite stations are now top/pop 40 - no more cutting edge
music or electronica.

So ends my subscription.

Later,

Tom


I wondered the same, Tom. I'll tell you one thing, a lot of college
sports teams are signing contracts with one or the other, so you kind
of have to pick and choose. It seems most SEC teams have individually
signed with Sirius, and what amazes me, is that the SEC Conference
et.al. signed with XM!


Doug Kanter February 18th 05 02:24 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I was wondering how long it was going to take Mel Karmazin to
homogenize Sirius once he took over.

About a month.

All my favorite stations are now top/pop 40 - no more cutting edge
music or electronica.

So ends my subscription.

Later,

Tom


Isn't there a competing service, Tom? If so, it available in your area? I'm
not at all well-versed on these things.

I have a friend who works for Clear Channel, and he said it was just a
matter of time before the cancer reached satellite radio. Actually, I called
it "cancer", and he got all ****ed off because he knew I was referring to
the "scream at the ADHD audience" type of programming and commercials that
are prevalent on the stations his company owns.



Short Wave Sportfishing February 18th 05 05:16 PM

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:24:16 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
I was wondering how long it was going to take Mel Karmazin to
homogenize Sirius once he took over.

About a month.

All my favorite stations are now top/pop 40 - no more cutting edge
music or electronica.

So ends my subscription.


Isn't there a competing service, Tom? If so, it available in your area? I'm
not at all well-versed on these things.


XM is just as bad, although they are a little more open about it.

I have a friend who works for Clear Channel, and he said it was just a
matter of time before the cancer reached satellite radio. Actually, I called
it "cancer", and he got all ****ed off because he knew I was referring to
the "scream at the ADHD audience" type of programming and commercials that
are prevalent on the stations his company owns.


It's not quite that bad, but a channel that I listen to a lot had a
lot of electronic music - ambient sounds and the like.

It's now vocal crap, cross over Euro "rap" and performers like Nora
Jones.

It sucks.

Later,

Tom

Doug Kanter February 18th 05 05:53 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I was wondering how long it was going to take Mel Karmazin to
homogenize Sirius once he took over.

About a month.

All my favorite stations are now top/pop 40 - no more cutting edge
music or electronica.

So ends my subscription.

Later,

Tom


I thought there were bunches of "channels" to choose from. If yes, are they
ALL screwed up now?



Short Wave Sportfishing February 18th 05 05:55 PM

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:53:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
I was wondering how long it was going to take Mel Karmazin to
homogenize Sirius once he took over.

About a month.

All my favorite stations are now top/pop 40 - no more cutting edge
music or electronica.

So ends my subscription.


I thought there were bunches of "channels" to choose from. If yes, are they
ALL screwed up now?


All the ones I liked anyway.

Oh well.

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing February 18th 05 07:56 PM

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:21:18 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I was wondering how long it was going to take Mel Karmazin to
homogenize Sirius once he took over.

About a month.

All my favorite stations are now top/pop 40 - no more cutting edge
music or electronica.

So ends my subscription.


I thought there were bunches of "channels" to choose from. If yes, are they
ALL screwed up now?

You guys spend lots of time in the car?


Not really. I listen on the Web from the Sirius web site. It's part
of the subscription fee.

Later,

Tom


Doug Kanter February 18th 05 09:07 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I was wondering how long it was going to take Mel Karmazin to
homogenize Sirius once he took over.

About a month.

All my favorite stations are now top/pop 40 - no more cutting edge
music or electronica.

So ends my subscription.

Later,

Tom



I thought there were bunches of "channels" to choose from. If yes, are
they ALL screwed up now?

You guys spend lots of time in the car?


Only travelling. Locally, I'm lucky enough to have two great jazz stations
and a bunch of college stations. The rest is pure trash.



Jack Goff February 19th 05 02:40 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I listen to NPR, and then to one of three classical stations in the
area, or the new classical voice station on the internet.


That explains a lot.



[email protected] February 20th 05 01:58 AM

XM is just as bad, although they are a little more open about it.

This is bull. XM's music channels are deep, eclectic, and superior in
every respect to Sirius. Your remarks reeks of not knowing the facts.

Anyone seeking Top40 would be comfortable at Sirius. People seeking
deeper playlists, diversity of entertainment, and better sound quality
to boot would be looking at XM.


Short Wave Sportfishing February 20th 05 11:10 AM

On 19 Feb 2005 17:58:35 -0800, wrote:

XM is just as bad, although they are a little more open about it.


This is bull. XM's music channels are deep, eclectic, and superior in
every respect to Sirius. Your remarks reeks of not knowing the facts.


Really? Damn - I guess that (((XM))) receiver in my wife's car must
be Sirius then.

Wow - who 'da thunk?

Anyone seeking Top40 would be comfortable at Sirius. People seeking
deeper playlists, diversity of entertainment, and better sound quality
to boot would be looking at XM.


This is bull - to turn a phrase. :)

Later,

Tom

Doug Kanter February 20th 05 06:05 PM


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
m...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I listen to NPR, and then to one of three classical stations in the
area, or the new classical voice station on the internet.


That explains a lot.



What does it explain?



Short Wave Sportfishing February 20th 05 06:56 PM

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:05:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
om...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I listen to NPR, and then to one of three classical stations in the
area, or the new classical voice station on the internet.


That explains a lot.


What does it explain?


That folks who listen to NPR and classical music are commie pinko
elitists with two left feet, two left hands and two left brains? :)

Later,

Tom


Doug Kanter February 20th 05 07:35 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:05:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
. com...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I listen to NPR, and then to one of three classical stations in the
area, or the new classical voice station on the internet.

That explains a lot.


What does it explain?


That folks who listen to NPR and classical music are commie pinko
elitists with two left feet, two left hands and two left brains? :)

Later,

Tom


Yeah! That's it. :-) Or, maybe they have attention spans longer than those
normally observed in gnats.



Short Wave Sportfishing February 20th 05 07:57 PM

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:35:42 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:05:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
.com...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I listen to NPR, and then to one of three classical stations in the
area, or the new classical voice station on the internet.

That explains a lot.

What does it explain?


That folks who listen to NPR and classical music are commie pinko
elitists with two left feet, two left hands and two left brains? :)


Yeah! That's it. :-) Or, maybe they have attention spans longer than those
normally observed in gnats.


No, I'm pretty sure it's because they are commie pinko elitists,
etc....

Of course that doesn't mean that they have longer attention spans. I
mean if anybody is going to put me into a comma, it's Terry Gross a
creature of "public" radio if there every was one.

Later,

Tom

John H February 21st 05 01:11 AM

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:57:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:35:42 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:05:28 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
r.com...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

I listen to NPR, and then to one of three classical stations in the
area, or the new classical voice station on the internet.

That explains a lot.

What does it explain?

That folks who listen to NPR and classical music are commie pinko
elitists with two left feet, two left hands and two left brains? :)


Yeah! That's it. :-) Or, maybe they have attention spans longer than those
normally observed in gnats.


No, I'm pretty sure it's because they are commie pinko elitists,
etc....

Of course that doesn't mean that they have longer attention spans. I
mean if anybody is going to put me into a comma, it's Terry Gross a
creature of "public" radio if there every was one.

Later,

Tom


Are you referring to Jimcomma?

(Sorry, couldn't help myself!)


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Doug Kanter February 21st 05 02:08 AM

"John H" wrote in message
...


No, I'm pretty sure it's because they are commie pinko elitists,
etc....

Of course that doesn't mean that they have longer attention spans. I
mean if anybody is going to put me into a comma, it's Terry Gross a
creature of "public" radio if there every was one.

Later,

Tom


Are you referring to Jimcomma?

(Sorry, couldn't help myself!)


www.depend.com
You can wear these over your head, John. I think it's time for you to do so.



[email protected] February 26th 05 08:01 PM

This is bull. XM's music channels are deep, eclectic, and superior
in
every respect to Sirius

That is not what Edmunds says:

"So who's the winner?


First, let us say that even the most discriminating listener will be
happy with either XM Radio or Sirius Radio. It is obvious that both
companies have put together a crack team of researchers and
programmers, and the variety of content offered by both services is
truly staggering and impressive. In fact, we could easily call this
test a tie, since both XM and Sirius provide excellent content.


That being said, we're going to give Sirius the nod. It strikes us that

XM Radio takes fewer chances with its content, sticking to the tried
and true, while Sirius takes a riskier path. As a result, the Sirius
content is a little edgier and more surprising, plus the company has
better choices in sports and talk."


http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=103686


Short Wave Sportfishing February 26th 05 08:13 PM

On 26 Feb 2005 12:01:11 -0800, wrote:

This is bull. XM's music channels are deep, eclectic, and superior

in
every respect to Sirius

That is not what Edmunds says:


~~ snippage ~~

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=103686

Interesting that this was done before Kamazin.

Since then, Sirius is slowly adding more mainstream music to the more
edgy channels - in particular the electronic/dance genre.

BUT....

They are still heads and above (((XM))).

Not to mention that Sirius web streams are free - (((XM))) you gotta
pay an extra $4 a month.

Later,

Tom

[email protected] February 28th 05 03:17 AM

Not to mention that Sirius web streams are free - (((XM))) you
gotta
pay an extra $4 a month.

But the service costs less to begin with, the streams are much better
sound (higher bitrate) and they have XM music instead of Sirius.

Also, you can't get the Sirius streams unless you also have a Sirius
radio. You can get XM online without a radio subscription.


Short Wave Sportfishing February 28th 05 11:00 AM

On 27 Feb 2005 19:17:41 -0800, wrote:

Not to mention that Sirius web streams are free - (((XM))) you

gotta
pay an extra $4 a month.

But the service costs less to begin with,


True, but with the addons XM is the same or more expensive.

the streams are much better
sound (higher bitrate) and they have XM music instead of Sirius.


I'm not sure what XM music is, but it's not much better than Sirius.

My point was that with the change in leadership (Karmazin) and focus
(meaning adding Howard Stern), they are becoming much more mainstream
than they used to be.

Also, you can't get the Sirius streams unless you also have a Sirius
radio. You can get XM online without a radio subscription.


True.

What I've noticed about XM vs Sirius is that the dropout rate out here
in the woods is higher with XM than Sirius. And while the bit rate
may be higher, it's not really a factor in car systems.

Later,

Tom


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