Wow, this AMs topics on rec.boats has to set a new record. I think I saw one
or two boating topics between all the spam for boat numbers/names, the flame
wars, and the political wars. All this after my filters, too. What utter
junk.

I shouldn't whine because I play some of the games some of the time.... at
least not often.

I'm not suggesting everyone stop enjoying what they are doing. I'd just like
to see some boating issues also under discussion for a change. Even Lloyd's
diesel for Christ's sake. I'm desperate.... the weather's not conducive to
being on the water most days so surely we can find something to discuss????

Butch

"JDavis1277" wrote:

Wow, this AMs topics on rec.boats has to set a new record. I think I saw
one
or two boating topics between all the spam for boat numbers/names, the
flame
wars, and the political wars. All this after my filters, too. What utter
junk.

I shouldn't whine because I play some of the games some of the time.... at
least not often.

I'm not suggesting everyone stop enjoying what they are doing. I'd just
like
to see some boating issues also under discussion for a change. Even
Lloyd's
diesel for Christ's sake. I'm desperate.... the weather's not conducive
to
being on the water most days so surely we can find something to
discuss????

Butch

That's just great: yet another post complaining about how
little anyone here discusses about boats - yet that doesn't bring up
any boat topic.

I don't have much boat related, but I'll at least try:

We started welding our custom trailer together. It's pretty fun - though a
bit
cold out there when working. We designed it ourselves. Seems pretty OK
but I think we did make one mistake. The front cross-member that the tongue
pole attaches to is about 9 inches further back than I had wanted/planned.
This
puts the cross-member a little further under the bow - and might mean that
the
boat has to set a few inches higher. We were shooting for the bottom of the
transom to be 28" off the ground (when level) but it might end up higher.

In another week or so we'll be ready to bring it inside and put it under the
boat
to get the center of gravity point and decide where the axels need to go to
get the proper tongue weight. (Thanks again for the December thread about
ideas on how to measure tongue weight.)

On a different topic - I'm starting to plan what antique boat shows and
other
events we want to do this summer. The Antique & Classic Boat Society has
a nice list of shows at this link. We're thinking of going to the July 30
show
in Skaneatles NY, maybe the Aug 6th show in Clayton NY, and maybe some
of the ones in upstate NY in August. Anyone who has info on these shows
or might want to meet up at some let me know.

http://www.acbs.org/Public/Calendar.htm

Sometime this year I want to go down the Hudson (we're near Albany) and then
cruise around New York, the Statue of Liberty, etc. Anyone with info about
sights on the Hudson or marina recommendations around New York City?

Oh, and we'll probably be in Boston for the 4th of July. I'm hoping to be
out
in the harbor to see the annual turning around of the USS Constitution.

Peace,
Gary

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:28:01 -0500, "Gary Warner"
wrote:
Sometime this year I want to go down the Hudson (we're near Albany) and then
cruise around New York, the Statue of Liberty, etc. Anyone with info about
sights on the Hudson or marina recommendations around New York City?

================================================== =========

It's a great cruise with fantastic scenery (best enjoyed in good
weather of course). There are several interesting side creeks that
should not be missed such as in Catskill and Kingston, particularly
Kingston. Both offer fuel, dockage and other marine facilities.
Saugerties also has a side channel but I have not been in it. The
best scenery is in the vicinity of Storm King Mountain which is just
north of the West Point military academey. The town of Cold Spring on
the east bank just south of Storm King Mt is also worth a visit.

Dockage in the NY metro area is problematic and expensive for the most
part. Best bets are the two state run marinas on the New Jersey side
near Alpine and Englewood Cliffs (almost under the George Washington
Bridge). By far the best marinas and other facilities are on Long
Island Sound (City Island, New Rochelle, Mamaroneck, Manhasset Bay).
The two NJ marinas have the cheapest fuel however.

On 14 Jan 2004 14:35:50 GMT, (JDavis1277) wrote:

Wow, this AMs topics on rec.boats has to set a new record. I think I saw one
or two boating topics between all the spam for boat numbers/names, the flame
wars, and the political wars. All this after my filters, too. What utter
junk.

I shouldn't whine because I play some of the games some of the time.... at
least not often.

I'm not suggesting everyone stop enjoying what they are doing. I'd just like
to see some boating issues also under discussion for a change. Even Lloyd's
diesel for Christ's sake. I'm desperate.... the weather's not conducive to
being on the water most days so surely we can find something to discuss????

Let's say that the USCG, or US Navy, instituted a volunteer program in
which you would be required to pass a background check including
security clearance, physical (within civilian specifications - we're
not talking NAvy Seals of Marine Recon types here), complete the basic
Captain's level license (whatever that is) in return for which, the
Navy or USCG would pay for the use of your vessel to do port security
patrols and other security type work as deemed necessary and
appropriate.

Would you participate?

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"My rod and my reel - they comfort me."

St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:46:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Jan 2004 14:35:50 GMT, (JDavis1277) wrote:

Wow, this AMs topics on rec.boats has to set a new record. I think I saw one
or two boating topics between all the spam for boat numbers/names, the flame
wars, and the political wars. All this after my filters, too. What utter
junk.

I shouldn't whine because I play some of the games some of the time.... at
least not often.

I'm not suggesting everyone stop enjoying what they are doing. I'd just like
to see some boating issues also under discussion for a change. Even Lloyd's
diesel for Christ's sake. I'm desperate.... the weather's not conducive to
being on the water most days so surely we can find something to discuss????

Let's say that the USCG, or US Navy, instituted a volunteer program in
which you would be required to pass a background check including
security clearance, physical (within civilian specifications - we're
not talking NAvy Seals of Marine Recon types here), complete the basic
Captain's level license (whatever that is) in return for which, the
Navy or USCG would pay for the use of your vessel to do port security
patrols and other security type work as deemed necessary and
appropriate.

Would you participate?

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"My rod and my reel - they comfort me."

St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test

Would I get to mount a .50 calibre on the bow?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:13:16 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:46:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Jan 2004 14:35:50 GMT, (JDavis1277) wrote:

Wow, this AMs topics on rec.boats has to set a new record. I think I saw one
or two boating topics between all the spam for boat numbers/names, the flame
wars, and the political wars. All this after my filters, too. What utter
junk.

I shouldn't whine because I play some of the games some of the time.... at
least not often.

I'm not suggesting everyone stop enjoying what they are doing. I'd just like
to see some boating issues also under discussion for a change. Even Lloyd's
diesel for Christ's sake. I'm desperate.... the weather's not conducive to
being on the water most days so surely we can find something to discuss????

Let's say that the USCG, or US Navy, instituted a volunteer program in
which you would be required to pass a background check including
security clearance, physical (within civilian specifications - we're
not talking NAvy Seals of Marine Recon types here), complete the basic
Captain's level license (whatever that is) in return for which, the
Navy or USCG would pay for the use of your vessel to do port security
patrols and other security type work as deemed necessary and
appropriate.

Would you participate?

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"My rod and my reel - they comfort me."

St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test

Would I get to mount a .50 calibre on the bow?

Sure, why not? Put a Vulcan 7.62 mm mini-cannon on the T-top for
those high speed runs at the terrorist Zodiacs.

Torpedo tubes too if your boat is big enough. ;)

Ok, well, actually, I was thinking of unarmed security type stuff.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"My rod and my reel - they comfort me."

St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:55:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:13:16 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:46:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Jan 2004 14:35:50 GMT, (JDavis1277) wrote:

Wow, this AMs topics on rec.boats has to set a new record. I think I saw one
or two boating topics between all the spam for boat numbers/names, the flame
wars, and the political wars. All this after my filters, too. What utter
junk.

I shouldn't whine because I play some of the games some of the time.... at
least not often.

I'm not suggesting everyone stop enjoying what they are doing. I'd just like
to see some boating issues also under discussion for a change. Even Lloyd's
diesel for Christ's sake. I'm desperate.... the weather's not conducive to
being on the water most days so surely we can find something to discuss????

Let's say that the USCG, or US Navy, instituted a volunteer program in
which you would be required to pass a background check including
security clearance, physical (within civilian specifications - we're
not talking NAvy Seals of Marine Recon types here), complete the basic
Captain's level license (whatever that is) in return for which, the
Navy or USCG would pay for the use of your vessel to do port security
patrols and other security type work as deemed necessary and
appropriate.

Would you participate?

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"My rod and my reel - they comfort me."

St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test

Would I get to mount a .50 calibre on the bow?

Sure, why not? Put a Vulcan 7.62 mm mini-cannon on the T-top for
those high speed runs at the terrorist Zodiacs.

Torpedo tubes too if your boat is big enough. ;)

Ok, well, actually, I was thinking of unarmed security type stuff.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"My rod and my reel - they comfort me."

St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test


I might forego an M2 for a Vulcan, the 20mm variety, not the minigun.
Also, I wouldn't mind patrolling Chesapeake Bay for pay as long as I
could troll a few lines at the same time. Of course, I'd be prepared
to jettison the lines if the sh*t hit the fan!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John, Why don't you contact the Auxiliary, they are always looking for
recruits.
http://www.cgaux.org/



"John H" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:55:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:13:16 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:46:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 14 Jan 2004 14:35:50 GMT, (JDavis1277) wrote:

Wow, this AMs topics on rec.boats has to set a new record. I think I
saw one
or two boating topics between all the spam for boat numbers/names, the
flame
wars, and the political wars. All this after my filters, too. What
utter
junk.

I shouldn't whine because I play some of the games some of the
time.... at
least not often.

I'm not suggesting everyone stop enjoying what they are doing. I'd
just like
to see some boating issues also under discussion for a change. Even
Lloyd's
diesel for Christ's sake. I'm desperate.... the weather's not
conducive to
being on the water most days so surely we can find something to
discuss????

Let's say that the USCG, or US Navy, instituted a volunteer program in
which you would be required to pass a background check including
security clearance, physical (within civilian specifications - we're
not talking NAvy Seals of Marine Recon types here), complete the basic
Captain's level license (whatever that is) in return for which, the
Navy or USCG would pay for the use of your vessel to do port security
patrols and other security type work as deemed necessary and
appropriate.

Would you participate?

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"My rod and my reel - they comfort me."

St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test

Would I get to mount a .50 calibre on the bow?

Sure, why not? Put a Vulcan 7.62 mm mini-cannon on the T-top for
those high speed runs at the terrorist Zodiacs.

Torpedo tubes too if your boat is big enough. ;)

Ok, well, actually, I was thinking of unarmed security type stuff.

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"My rod and my reel - they comfort me."

St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test


I might forego an M2 for a Vulcan, the 20mm variety, not the minigun.
Also, I wouldn't mind patrolling Chesapeake Bay for pay as long as I
could troll a few lines at the same time. Of course, I'd be prepared
to jettison the lines if the sh*t hit the fan!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:12:06 -0500, John H
wrote:

~~ snippity do da ~~

I might forego an M2 for a Vulcan, the 20mm variety, not the minigun.
Also, I wouldn't mind patrolling Chesapeake Bay for pay as long as I
could troll a few lines at the same time. Of course, I'd be prepared
to jettison the lines if the sh*t hit the fan!

Yeah, but let's say you have a world's record striper on the line and
the terrorists are attacking the Bay Bridge.

World's record striper or Bay Bridge - decisions, decisions...

Later,

Tom
S. Woodstock, CT
----------
"My rod and my reel - they comfort me."

St. Pete, 12 Lb. Test

Let's say that the USCG, or US Navy, instituted a volunteer program in
which you would be required to pass a background check including
security clearance, physical (within civilian specifications - we're
not talking NAvy Seals of Marine Recon types here), complete the basic
Captain's level license (whatever that is) in return for which, the
Navy or USCG would pay for the use of your vessel to do port security
patrols and other security type work as deemed necessary and
appropriate.

Would you participate?


Not likely.

1. No problem with background check and security clearance.

2. I'd like to think that I could pass the physical, but God only knows. I
turn 50 in a couple of months, and I'm about 50 miles south of buff. Can
you say sea slug?

3. I would truly enjoy the pursuit of a Captain's license.

4. But, the bottom line is that my boat is a PLEASURE vessel. I'm not
looking for anybody to pay for its use, and I wouldn't want anybody
dictating how/when/where it was used. My bathing suit wouldn't pass for a
uniform, and I'm pretty sure they would frown on sipping a cold beer while
on duty. I'm a working stiff with a job, and treasure my boat as a place to
get away from many of life's impositions. I'm fortunate to have a 12-month
boating season (79 degree high today, woohoo!), and I take full advantage of
it. It would be a bad trade for me. But since I'm inland, most likely a
moot question for me since I have nothing much to guard, with the possible
exceptions of Hoover and Glen Canyon Dams, which actually would be
tactically devastating targets if hit successfully. But I wouldn't think
they'd likely be targeted from the water. More likely from above, I would
think. Interesting question, though.