schock, santana 21
 

land locked wrote:

Anyone have experience with the Schock Santana 21?

Yes. It's quite a nice boat and sails well.


I've found a 1972 hull
in Maryland for a good price,

What's a "good price"? From the pic, it looks like "free" would be good unless
there is a lot of gear with the boat that is not shown.


haven't seen it yet, but the yard reports it
to be in good condition, small "hair line crack in hull". (photo attached)
Depending on the location I guess it could be a killer.

Actually, repairing cracks in fiberglass is not a big deal. Even if it is in a
structural area, the materials would not cost that much and *if* you have the
skills, not difficult. Check the local library and see if they have any
references to tell you what you'll be looking at doing.

IMHO a much more important question is "How complete is the boat's rigging &
gear?" It's almost guaranteed that it will need new sails and new running
rigging (ropes) and this will cost several thousand dollars. If major parts of
the rigging are missing or damaged or simply old & shot, then you will not only
need to buy replacements (and you'll be shocked how expensive sailboat rigging
parts can be) you will need to find somebody to help put it together.


I've read the
center board can be a problem due to the hinge/cable/crank set-up.

Possibly, but again it is not an insurmountable problem.


This
would be my first boat and since I have limited funds a project is all I can
afford. This or building a similar sized Sharpie in ply. Also any advise
on the type of trailer required to move this type of hull would be great
too.

I'd suggest going to the local sailing club and crewing for some other people on
a variety of different types of boats. It is a way to gain experience and also a
chance to check out different types of boats and see what you like.

If you want a small trailerable racer-cruiser, then there are lots of them in
workable condition on the market; you should not have to buy a 'project' which
will result in a lot of hidden costs and not sailing for a year or more.

Hope this helps.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

schock, santana 21
 

Doug,

Thanks for the input. Your right, it could take a couple of thousand to get
it on the water and I could find one ready to go for that. The yard worte
back that it is pretty much as is, the hull and mast, no rigging, sail etc.
Tom Schock responded, the company still sells parts and has documentation
available but, it would be a couple of years getting things right. Never
enough time or money, the perenial problem. Guess I'll keep looking. Any
suggestions on good sources for inexpensive boats, NGs, web? I don't mind
having to fix it up, the interior could be trashed. I just want to get on
the water.

Thanks,
Richard

"DSK" wrote in message
...
land locked wrote:

Anyone have experience with the Schock Santana 21?

Yes. It's quite a nice boat and sails well.


I've found a 1972 hull
in Maryland for a good price,

What's a "good price"? From the pic, it looks like "free" would be good
unless
there is a lot of gear with the boat that is not shown.


haven't seen it yet, but the yard reports it
to be in good condition, small "hair line crack in hull". (photo
attached)
Depending on the location I guess it could be a killer.

Actually, repairing cracks in fiberglass is not a big deal. Even if it is
in a
structural area, the materials would not cost that much and *if* you have
the
skills, not difficult. Check the local library and see if they have any
references to tell you what you'll be looking at doing.

IMHO a much more important question is "How complete is the boat's rigging
&
gear?" It's almost guaranteed that it will need new sails and new running
rigging (ropes) and this will cost several thousand dollars. If major
parts of
the rigging are missing or damaged or simply old & shot, then you will not
only
need to buy replacements (and you'll be shocked how expensive sailboat
rigging
parts can be) you will need to find somebody to help put it together.


I've read the
center board can be a problem due to the hinge/cable/crank set-up.

Possibly, but again it is not an insurmountable problem.


This
would be my first boat and since I have limited funds a project is all I
can
afford. This or building a similar sized Sharpie in ply. Also any
advise
on the type of trailer required to move this type of hull would be great
too.

I'd suggest going to the local sailing club and crewing for some other
people on
a variety of different types of boats. It is a way to gain experience and
also a
chance to check out different types of boats and see what you like.

If you want a small trailerable racer-cruiser, then there are lots of them
in
workable condition on the market; you should not have to buy a 'project'
which
will result in a lot of hidden costs and not sailing for a year or more.

Hope this helps.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

schock, santana 21
 

Where are you?
RG


.. Any suggestions on good sources for inexpensive boats, NGs, web? I
don't mind
having to fix it up, the interior could be trashed. I just want to get on
the water.

Thanks,
Richard

"DSK" wrote in message
...
land locked wrote:

Anyone have experience with the Schock Santana 21?

Yes. It's quite a nice boat and sails well.


I've found a 1972 hull
in Maryland for a good price,

What's a "good price"? From the pic, it looks like "free" would be good
unless
there is a lot of gear with the boat that is not shown.


haven't seen it yet, but the yard reports it
to be in good condition, small "hair line crack in hull". (photo
attached)
Depending on the location I guess it could be a killer.

Actually, repairing cracks in fiberglass is not a big deal. Even if it
is
in a
structural area, the materials would not cost that much and *if* you
have
the
skills, not difficult. Check the local library and see if they have any
references to tell you what you'll be looking at doing.

IMHO a much more important question is "How complete is the boat's
rigging
&
gear?" It's almost guaranteed that it will need new sails and new
running
rigging (ropes) and this will cost several thousand dollars. If major
parts of
the rigging are missing or damaged or simply old & shot, then you will
not
only
need to buy replacements (and you'll be shocked how expensive sailboat
rigging
parts can be) you will need to find somebody to help put it together.


I've read the
center board can be a problem due to the hinge/cable/crank set-up.

Possibly, but again it is not an insurmountable problem.


This
would be my first boat and since I have limited funds a project is all
I
can
afford. This or building a similar sized Sharpie in ply. Also any
advise
on the type of trailer required to move this type of hull would be
great
too.

I'd suggest going to the local sailing club and crewing for some other
people on
a variety of different types of boats. It is a way to gain experience
and
also a
chance to check out different types of boats and see what you like.

If you want a small trailerable racer-cruiser, then there are lots of
them
in
workable condition on the market; you should not have to buy a 'project'
which
will result in a lot of hidden costs and not sailing for a year or more.

Hope this helps.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

schock, santana 21
 

land locked wrote:

.... Never
enough time or money, the perenial problem.

It's a trap. I don't think there is a solution, other than 1- choose the right
parents and/or 2- learn to be happy with what you can afford. I say #2 because I
have known some quite rich people who wanted fancier cars and bigger boats, and
were unhappy about it.



Guess I'll keep looking. Any
suggestions on good sources for inexpensive boats, NGs, web? I don't mind
having to fix it up, the interior could be trashed. I just want to get on
the water.

IMHO the problem with looking on the web is that the stuff you fnd may be on
another continent. EBay is interesting but their format is not very
buyer-friendly when it comes to putting down money. I would not ever contemplate
putting down a deposit, or making a legal commitment to buy, a boat I had not
seen & inspected in person. But there are lots of classified ad sites, here's a
sampling.

http://www.spinsheet.com/Brokerage/brokerage.php
http://www.sailboatlistings.com/
http://www.boats-for-sale.com/
http://www.boattraderonline.com/newadsearch.html
http://www.boats.com/listing/cache/q...src=header_bfs
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/index.html.en
http://www.iboats.com/boats/

and here's where EBay lists sailboats
http://listings.ebaymotors.com/aw/pl...33/index.html?

take a look at how many are sitting with no bids. A few nice boats though.

Happy hunting and Fresh Breezes- Doug King