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....to take on Saudi Arabia. Remember, I said long ago (right after the 9/11
attack), that Afghanistan was first, followed by Iraq, Iran, Syria, and eventually maybe even Saudi Arabia. Here's what I wrote in November, 2001: "Harry, I've explained this to you before, but let me do it again since you have trouble comprehending. Al-Qaeda is a "company" that trains hard-line Islamics to wage terrorist attacks on Israel and the West...kind of like a temp service The "company's" CEO is Bin Laden. It's training headquarters are in Afghanistan. New "employees" from around the world go there to train. Al-Qaeda then "temps" these people out to nations that want to wage war on Israel and the West, but do so in secrecy.....Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemedn, Sudan, etc.....possibly even Saudi Arabia. The Bush Administration's plan is to take out the training facility in order to disrupt the flow of new "employees." That is the "supply route" for the other countries I mentioned before. The next obvious step would be to go after the contries themselves. Saudi Arabia and Sudan may be just as guilty as Syria, Yemen, Iraq and Iran, but rest-assured that Iraq will be our primary whipping boy...they will be used as an example to the other "friendly" Muslim nations. Look at Bush's ultimatum to Saddam just issued today....let our inspectors back in...or else. If that isn't a prelude of future miltary action there, I don't know what is. Countries such as Saudi Arabia that speak publicly about being our ally, but act privately otherwise, will be put on notice. No military action will be necessary as long as they comply with our privately issued mandates. The whole plan seems so simple and obvious to me, yet the simple minds like yourself keep whining about "doing nothing more than bombing Afghanistan"." Here's what Richard Perle is saying in his new book: Monday, Jan. 12, 2004 1:54 p.m. EST Perle: Stop the Saudis, Stop Terror In Richard Perle's new book, "An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror," he and David Frum have many suggestions for how the U.S. can put an end to the terrorist threat we now face, not the least of which is terminating Saudi Arabia's support for the extremist Wahabbi sect of Islam. In an interview on Fox News' program "Dayside," Perle spoke with host Linda Vester. He said we need to tell countries like Saudi Arabia that we have no interest in dealing with them if they continue to support terror. "They [the Saudis] have done a terrible thing for the world and for Islam. They have taken a fringe group of extremists who believe in holy war ... and they're prepared to use force and violence and suicidal missions to accomplish that. ... This would be an irrelevant fringe group if it were not for the billions of Saudi money behind it. "It's time for us to say to the Saudis, 'This has to stop.'" Perle said that it would be preferable to have the Saudis cooperate with us, but if none of the ends we seek can be achieved through "kinder, gentler means," then we should be willing to threaten an end of the rule of the Al Saud family. We must be "prepared to take it as far as we need to achieve the result." In other words, the U.S. should be prepared to tell King Fahd, Crown Prince Abdullah and their family that, should they not cease and desist funding extremists and teaching hate in their madrasas (theological schools for the interpretation of Islamic law), the U.S. "no longer has any interest in your continuing in power." Perle said it has taken the U.S. a long time to realize what the Saudis were doing - funneling tens of billions to the Wahabbi sect - and that the intelligence community "really let us down on this." |
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...to take on Saudi Arabia. Remember, I said long ago (right after the 9/11 attack), that Afghanistan was first, followed by Iraq, Iran, Syria, and eventually maybe even Saudi Arabia. Here's what I wrote in November, 2001: "Harry, I've explained this to you before, but let me do it again since you have trouble comprehending. Al-Qaeda is a "company" that trains hard-line Islamics to wage terrorist attacks on Israel and the West...kind of like a temp service The "company's" CEO is Bin Laden. It's training headquarters are in Afghanistan. New "employees" from around the world go there to train. Al-Qaeda then "temps" these people out to nations that want to wage war on Israel and the West, but do so in secrecy.....Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemedn, Sudan, etc.....possibly even Saudi Arabia. Perle said it has taken the U.S. a long time to realize what the Saudis were doing - funneling tens of billions to the Wahabbi sect - and that the intelligence community "really let us down on this." Tell this to the jack-off in the White House, who entertains the Saudi royal family at his ersatz ranch in Texas. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: ...to take on Saudi Arabia. Remember, I said long ago (right after the 9/11 attack), that Afghanistan was first, followed by Iraq, Iran, Syria, and eventually maybe even Saudi Arabia. Here's what I wrote in November, 2001: "Harry, I've explained this to you before, but let me do it again since you have trouble comprehending. Al-Qaeda is a "company" that trains hard-line Islamics to wage terrorist attacks on Israel and the West...kind of like a temp service The "company's" CEO is Bin Laden. It's training headquarters are in Afghanistan. New "employees" from around the world go there to train. Al-Qaeda then "temps" these people out to nations that want to wage war on Israel and the West, but do so in secrecy.....Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemedn, Sudan, etc.....possibly even Saudi Arabia. Perle said it has taken the U.S. a long time to realize what the Saudis were doing - funneling tens of billions to the Wahabbi sect - and that the intelligence community "really let us down on this." Tell this to the jack-off in the White House, I assume by "jack-off" you mean Bush (a rather Freudianistic irony in your choice of words BTW). If it's in a book by Perle, you can be sure that the word's already been passed to Bush a long time ago. Perle is one of the "Vulcans". who entertains the Saudi royal family at his ersatz ranch in Texas. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. |
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Tell this to the jack-off in the White House, who entertains the Saudi royal family at his ersatz ranch in Texas. The ACLU is out to destroy Jews like you, Hairball: ACLU assaults Constitution -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: August 30, 2002 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Mainstream America is reeling with absolute shock from the politically correct decision of the University of North Carolina requiring incoming freshmen to read "Approaching the Qu-ran: The Early Revelations." The book clearly is a defense of Islam that conveniently leaves out verses that call for the murder of infidels. UNC Chancellor James Moeser, defended his position of assigning the book saying, "It helps us from demonizing a whole group of people with being an enemy simply by practicing the same religion." Apparently the sacred American Civil Liberties Union doctrines of the separation of church and state only apply to Christians and Jews. How else can you explain why the North Carolina ACLU went to court to support the University of North Carolina's mandatory reading assignment of the pro-Islam book for incoming freshmen? UNC was challenged by concerned groups in the state, but the ACLU rode to the rescue and a federal appeals court sided with the university. Try to imagine the ACLU's legal response had UNC Chancellor Moeser assigned all incoming freshmen to read the Old Testament or the Talmud before being admitted. All hell would have broken loose. Yet, there is no hesitation to demand freshmen students be indoctrinated with a theological virus that birthed the murder of almost 3,000 Americans on 9-11. The First Amendment of the Constitution demands that the government take no position on religion. It is expressly the will of the people. Yet the ACLU in its relentless attack on any form of Christianity comes to the defense of the Islamic faith in a tax-supported University defying the establishment clause of the First Amendment of the Constitution. For those of you lost in the fog created by politically correct educators and the absolutely biased ACLU to lead you into believing that Islam is a faith of love and peace, please note this quote from Winston Churchill: That religion [Islam], which above all others was founded and propagated by the sword – the tenets and principles of which are ... incentives to slaughter and which in three continents had produced fighting breeds of men – simulates a wild and merciless fanaticism. This statement from the brilliant political mind that detected and exposed the dangers of communism to the Western world with his "Iron Curtain" speech at Westminster College in Fulton, Mo. For those who believe Sir Winston was biased, let's turn to the actual text of the Koran. All Americans need to know there are two editions of the Koran: One in Arabic and the other in English. The English version is much more mild than the hardcore fundamentalist Arabic version. Sura 5, verse 85 prophesies an inevitable conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims. "Strongest among men in enmity to the believers [Muslims] wilt thou find the Jews and pagans." Sura 9, verse 5 states: "Then fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them. And seize them, beleaguer them and lie and wait for them in every stratagem of war." You can be sure the freshmen at UNC will not be reading these verses. Neither will they read the following: Sura 5:51 states: "O ye who believe [Muslims] take not the Jews or the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you who turns to them [for friendship] is of them." The message is clear. If you accept a Jew or a Christian as a friend, you are not one of us. If you're not one of us you're an infidel. Islamic fundamentalists believe the Koran commands them to fight Christians and Jews: "Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the last day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and his messenger [Mohammed] and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth [Islam] among the people of the scripture [Christians and Jews] until they pay the Jazyah [a special high tax to be paid only by Christians and Jews who do not renounce their faith and convert to Islam] with willing submission and feel themselves subdued." (Surat At-Taubah 9:29) Does this sound peaceful? Does this sound like someone you would like to have for a next door neighbor? Taxing people into poverty who refuse to convert to your faith is peaceful? Killing people who do not submit to Islam is peaceful? Islam is a sister faith to Christianity? Not hardly! Daniel Pipes, historian, writing for Commentary Magazine's November 2001 issue, records the following shocking story: In June 1991, Siraj Wahaj, a convert to Islam, was a recipient of the American Muslim community's highest honors and had the privilege of becoming the first Muslim to deliver the daily prayer in the U.S. House of Representatives. On that occasion he recited from the Koran an appeal to the Almighty to guide American leaders "and grant them righteousness and wisdom." A little over a year later, Siraj Wahaj was addressing an audience of Muslims in New Jersey and articulated a completely different message from his mild and moderate prayer given before the U.S. House of Representatives. He said: "If only Muslims were more clever politically, they would take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a Caliphate [Islamic leadership body]. He continued saying: "If we were united and strong, we would elect our own leader and give allegiance to him. Take my word, if the 6 to 8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us." Is this loyal to America? Is this peaceful? Calling for the overthrow of the United States government is a sister faith to Christianity? Not hardly! Yet, at the politically correct University of North Carolina, freshmen are required to read the literature that drives Islamic fundamentalists to kill Christians and Jews – to say nothing of destroying America. |
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In article , says... Harry Krause wrote in message ... Tell this to the jack-off in the White House, who entertains the Saudi royal family at his ersatz ranch in Texas. The ACLU is out to destroy Jews like you, Hairball: Are you competing with Karen of Oz for the ignorant puke of the month award? When did the Oooze of Oz work its way up to puke? -- Email sent to is never read. |
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In article , says... Harry Krause wrote in message ... Tell this to the jack-off in the White House, who entertains the Saudi royal family at his ersatz ranch in Texas. The ACLU is out to destroy Jews like you, Hairball: Are you competing with Karen of Oz for the ignorant puke of the month award? The ACLU defends the right to distribute child pornography Carl Maves wrote, "How many gay men, I wonder, would have missed out on a valuable, liberating experience, one that initiated them into their sexuality, if it weren't for so-called molestation?" (See the full article titled, "Getting Over It" in The Advocate, page 85.) The slogan for NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association, is "Sex by eight or it's too late," meaning not eight p.m., but eight years old. Time Magazine is always understanding of homosexual crime. They printed a puff image piece on Peter Melzer, the editor of NAMBLA's journal. In the article For the Love of Kids (Nov. 1, 93, page 51) the ACLU defended this pervert arguing that if we condemn "NAMBLA today, who is it tomorrow?" Melzer is also a New York City public school teacher (surprised?). He published an article In Praise of the Penises, on "how to make that special boy feel good." As to a police report on Melzer?s alleged sex with a Filipino boy, according to Time, there is no hard evidence that he abused this "or any other boy in the U.S." Yeah, right. The homosexuals chanted during their 1993 march on Washington, "Ten percent is not enough! Recruit, recruit, recruit!" They want my children. They want your children. Examine the record of those who defend homosexual adoption of children. Jim Joy, the executive director of Colorado?s ACLU, admitted during a PBS televised debate that the written national policy of the ACLU defends the right to distribute child pornography. As with many leading voices, the ACLU?s opposition of child abuse is hypocrisy. Every such video sold of a thirteen-year-old sexually exploits the child again. So the ACLU, known to tolerate child abuse, sells children out again by advocating their adoption by homosexuals. Homosexual leaders blatantly voice tolerance for child sex abuse. A prominent gay magazine, Out, quoted Damien Martin, the head of New York's homosexual Harvey Milk High School, as saying, "No kid has ever been hurt by [oral sex]" in September, 1994 on page 73. The leading gay publication, The Advocate, in an article titled Getting Over It pondered on May 5, 1992 about how many boys "would have missed out on a valuable, liberating experience - one that initiated them into their sexuality - if it weren?t for so-called molestation?" Time magazine also lacks zero tolerance for homosexual child abusers. They quoted the ACLU in defense of an aggressive advocate of pedophilia. NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association exists to promote homosexual sex with young boys. Leading gay-pride organizers in New York and San Francisco allowed NAMBLA to march undisguised in their parades repeatedly during the last two decades. A Time article grotesquely titled For the Love of Kids in November, 1993 quoted the ACLU defending a New York City teacher, Peter Melzer who edits the NAMBLA journal. Melzer published an article In Praise of the Penises, on "how to make that special boy feel good." As to the police report on Melzer's alleged sex with a Filipino boy, Time assured its readers, there is no hard evidence that he abused this "or any other boy in the U.S." In the U.S. The media defends homosexuals who want to adopt children, but it also supports homosexuals who openly advocate sex with kids. The national media warmly eulogized Alan Ginsburg this past spring conveniently ignoring this homosexual poet?s public endorsement of NAMBLA. In Denver, a convicted pedophile, who says today he controls his longings, is running for Denver School Board with the support of many in the homosexual community. Long-time gay activist David Thorstad, founding member of the Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights and former president of the New York Gay Activists Alliance loudly protested when in 1993 the March on Washington organizers broke with tradition and excluded pedophiles like NAMBLA. With all the attention, they feared the media would expose the homosexual acceptance of pedophilia. Talk about paranoia. The nation's largest gay publicist, Alyson Publications of Boston, which distributes Daddy?s Roommate and other homosexual books for kids, published Paedophilia: The Radical Case, hundreds of pages of why and how seven year old boys should be brought to climax. Another Alyson book, The Age Taboo on page 144 insists: "Boy-lovers... are not child molesters. The child abusers are... parents who force their staid morality onto the young people in their custody." A Florida judge recently ruled unconstitutional their age-of-consent law, following northern European nations in lowering the age at which dirty old men can legally set their sights on boys. Liberal ideas have taken their expected course with lawyers arguing that since adolescents have the right over their own bodies regardless of what parents or legislators think, then they can elect sex whenever and with whomever they choose, with age discrimination ultimately unenforceable. America's newspapers are their silent partners. Those who are soft on child sex, or even those boldly endorsing it, have nothing to fear from the mainstream media. Partly because of the media's silence, the Clinton administration voted to give ILGA, the International Lesbian and Gay Association consulting status at the United Nations even though NAMBLA was a full and active member of that organization, even appearing on its letterhead. Imagine, professed pedophiles advising on international child law. NAMBLA remained at the UN until the outcry of the religious right ousted them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Thus the broadly overlapping groups, the homosexual community and the open pedophiles, are longtime allies. Both groups work to break down previously unquestioned sexual standards. The national Gay Rights Platform of 1972 called for the repeal of all age-of-consent laws. Gay activist Andy Humm bragged of his influence over the New York City Council in the New York Native, August, 1983 and wrote that, "No one should be denied basic civil rights because of his or her orientation, whether the person be homosexual, heterosexual, transsexual, transvestite, pedophile, sadist, masochist, asexual; whatever one can imagine." We are not saying that gays will sexually molest a child. We are saying that homosexuals have long given aid and comfort to pedophiles, publicly. And we are saying that the media and other defenders of homosexuals are the silent partners of those who work toward the day when children are a sex commodity. The media rejects but intuitively fears the connection between child molestation and homosexuality. It therefore suppresses reports of the torrent of public advocacy for gay pedophilia. Instead, the media wears out the same worn cliché that homosexuals are no more likely to molest children than heterosexuals. On homosexual initiation, sex researchers Masters and Johnson wrote in Human Sexual Inadequacy that "Recruitment usually was accomplished by an older male, frequently in his twenties, but occasionally men in their thirties were the initiators: the teenager was left with the concept that whether or not he continued as an active homosexual, he would always be homophile-oriented." Homosexuals do reproduce sexually, by molesting children. According to a 1994 Out article titled "The Men From the Boys," the director of a home for runaway youth admits that between 14 and 16 years of age, he "probably had sex with well over a thousand people, most of them much older than myself." This boy hardly met a homosexual adult who would not have sex with him. Of Canadians imprisoned for pedophilia, a 1991 report reveals that 91 percent of molesters of non-familial boys admitted to no lifetime sexual contact other than homosexual according to Volume 6, page 323 of the Journal of Interpersonal Violence. In America, about one third of the children sexually molested are boys, and about ninety percent of them are hurt by men. The refereed scientific journal, Psychological Reports in 1986 presented research in Volume 58 starting on page 327 showing that homosexuals commit a far greater percentage of child sex crimes than demographics alone account for. Every man molesting a boy is committing a homosexual act. Young boys do not excite straight men. To let a homosexual make the point in his own words, the San Francisco Sentinel published a letter on March 26, 1992 headlined, "No Place for Homo-Homophobia" with the common admission that, "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality. For the gay community to imply that boy-love is not homosexual love is ridiculous." Activist pedophiles easily find media outlets. Activists seeking special advantages for gays have recently admitted that "Certainly it is true that `homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual orientation' is not equivalent to racial minority status..." (testimony of gay activist Robin Miller, before the Colorado State Elections/ Licensing Committee, September 19, 1991, emphasis added). They also say they consider the argument that divergent sexual behavior or alleged desire doesn't equal ethnicity as "irrelevant" to discussion of the issue. Writing in the March 22, 1994 issue of the gay publication The Advocate, gay business columnist Ed Mickens admits: "Today, it's rare that anyone gets fired just for being gay." As syndicated columnist Don Feder points out: "Mickens should know. He's the author of `The 100 Best Companies For Gay Men And Lesbians,' wherein are listed corporate giants with `gay-friendly policies,' including training programs that teach `sensitivity' on homosexual issues... A conscientious Christian or Jew is far more likely to feel uncomfortable in the politically correct workplace of the '90s than the average homosexual" ("Gay-rights lobby stakes hopes on House gambit," Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph, June 28, 1994, p. B5). Self-identified lesbian writer Donna Minkowitz comments on the "innateness" question in a recent Advocate article, entitled "Recruit, recruit, recruit!": "Remember that most of the line about homosex being one's nature, not a choice, was articulated as a response to brutal repression. `It's not our fault!' gay activists began to declaim a century ago, when queers first began to organize in Germany and England. `We didn't choose this, so don't punish us for it!' One hundred years later, it's time for us to abandon this defensive posture and walk upright on the earth. Maybe you didn't choose to be gay -- that's fine. But I did" (December 29, 1992). When homosexual author James Spada, in The Spada Report, a survey of homosexual attitudes and behavior (New American Library, 1979), asked homosexual subjects "Have you ever had your rights denied you because you are gay?" -- 72.1% of his respondents answered "No" and an additional 10% gave no answer or said they "didn't know." Gay militants Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen express clearly their contempt for an American public they are confident they can "convert" to acceptance and subsidy of the gay extremist agenda: "...By conversion we actually mean something more profoundly threatening to the American way of life. We mean conversion of the average American's emotions, mind and will, through a planned psychological attack. We mean `subverting' the mechanism of prejudice to our own ends -- using the very process that made America hate us to turn their hatred into warm regard -- whether they like it or not" (After the Ball, op. cit., pp. 153-154). The State of Hawaii recently passed S.B. No. 1811, legislation giving protected class status to "sexual orientation." In answer to an inquiry regarding the bill's effects on church hiring, Attorney General Warren Price wrote: " . . . Non-sectarian employees of the church, church-sponsored activities or programs are not exempt. This would include secretaries, janitors, gardeners, teachers, etc." [emphasis added] "Conservative Presbyterians failed to gain exemption from a gay rights provision in New Jersey's anti-discrimination laws [to which "sexual orientation" has recently been added]. The 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied a request from the state presbytery of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church for an injunction barring the state from enforcing [a] gay and lesbian civil rights provision against it. The OPC had argued that its First Amendment freedom would be violated if it were forced to hire or retain homosexual employees" (PCA Bulletin Supplement, April, 1993). In fact, in Boulder, Colorado today, under a "gay rights" ordinance, apartment dwellers and dorm-residing college students are being told they are legally prohibited from asking if a prospective roommate is gay. Furthermore, if they've been lied to and want to change roommates, the financial burden is on them. Wisconsin's former Governor Lee Sherman Dreyfus signed into law that State's bill granting protected class status to "sexual orientation." He was assured that the bill would have no effect on religious institutions like the 40-year-old Rawhide Boys' Ranch, a home for troubled boys. Shortly after Dreyfus left office, two male homosexuals appeared at the Ranch, demanding to be hired as boys' counselors. Dreyfus later wrote the bill's supporters, expressing his sense of betrayal at the homosexual community's breach of promise. Evidence has recently surfaced indicating that not only was the provocative action Dreyfus complained of deliberate, it was planned by the Wisconsin Governor's Council on Lesbian and Gay Issues. In minutes from an October 19, 1985, meeting of that Council, under the heading "RAWHIDE," we read: "Jim Thideman [one of eight members present] has asked some people to apply for a job [at Rawhide] and pursue filing a discrimination report with ERD upon refusal of employment, assuming it will be that clear cut. Kathleen Nichols [another Council member] reported that Char McLaughlan is acquainted with a lesbian with a son at Rawhide who has been refused family counseling sessions if accompanied by her lover. Follow-up is necessary to see if this woman would be willing to file a complaint." According to sources at Rawhide, heading off these conspiratorial plans cost in excess of $30,000. Relief only came through passage of additional legislation that exempted religious institutions like Rawhide. But Rawhide still has outstanding debts remaining from this episode. Under legislation granting special minority status to gays, we can expect a plethora of similar nuisance suits and test cases to clog our legal system and bleed defendants dry financially. Homosexual activists frequently express deep hostility to traditional, Judeo- Christian moral beliefs and values. Writings by gay activists show contempt for and determination to do away with the institution of the nuclear family. Gay social agendas detailed in Teal's The Gay Militants, Jay and Young's Out of the Closets and Tobin and Wicker's The Gay Crusaders specify that: "The family as we know it be abolished... That homosexuals be placed in positions of caregivers and permitted to become teachers, clergy, counselors, therapists and social workers. That they be allowed to participate in the rearing and education of children... That children be placed in communal care away from their parents, with boys and girls reared the same and cared for by adults who are under the direction of lesbian women... That children should be reared in a unisex role", etc. (as reported in Gay Is Not Good, pp. 104, 105, Frank M. duMas, Nashville, TN, Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1979). Gay activist Michael Swift echoed the frequent tone of such diatribes, writing: "[The family] is a spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy and violence -- and will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated" (Gay Community News, Feb. 15, 1987) Yet homosexual activists like Jeffrey Levi, formerly executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, have stated on numerous occasions their desire to see their lifestyle "affirmed" and "recognized in the law." Levi's statement to the National Press Club prior to gay extremists' 1987 "March on Washington" is highly revealing in this regard: "The demands of the March on Washington reflect what [our] agenda will be in the years ahead. They include passage of the gay and lesbian civil rights bill, an executive order dealing with that branch's discriminatory policies -- from the military to security clearances; passage of similar measures at the state level as well as repeal of sodomy laws. "But our agenda is becoming broader than that: we are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a right to protection from wrong. We also have a right -- as heterosexual Americans have already -- to see government and society affirm our lives. "Now that is a statement that may make our liberal friends queasy. But the truth is, until our relationships are recognized in the law -- through domestic partnership legislation or the definition of beneficiary, for example -- until we are provided with the same financial incentives in tax law and government programs to affirm our family relationships, then we will not have achieved equality in American society". Self-styled "gaylegal" scholar William Eskridge reveals an even more comprehensive perspective -- that of replacing American society's currently operative norms to suit the "gay rights" agenda -- in a recent article in one of America's most presitigious legal journals, The Yale Law Review. No one can tag Eskridge's comments as representing the "lunatic fringe" of the "gay rights" movement: "...Bisexual, gay, and lesbian activists ought to deny the centrality of heterosexuality, particularly as it has been developed around rituals and taboos of manhood in American society. As Adrienne Rich has suggested, bisexual, gay, and lesbian consciousness can undermine claims that compulsory heterosexuality is the universal norm for our society. Rich challenges Americans to rethink sexuality, not from the assumption that everyone must be heterosexual if at all possible, but from the assumption that people are polymorphously sexual, that there is a `lesbian in us.' "If Rich's point is true (and I believe it is), then the bisexual, gay, and lesbian community should reject the image that we are a subculture on the margins of mainstream heterosexual culture, for this internalizes the traditional assumption that we are deviants from the norm. Instead, legally as well as culturally, the norm is up for grabs, and as a community we must contribute to the reformulation of the norm. (The Yale Law Journal, "A Social Constructionist Critique of Posner's Sex and Reason: Steps Toward a Gaylegal Agenda," Volume 102, October 1992, Number 1, pp. 374-375) In 1991, a California Superior Court ordered Shell Oil to pay $5.3 million for wrongful discharge of Jeffrey Collins, a homosexual manager. Collins was terminated when his superiors discovered a memo he wrote on an office computer advertising an off-the-job "safe sex" party for gay men. The Court ruled that Collins' memo was "political activity" protected under California Supreme Court precedent. Julie Brienza, a former Supreme Court reporter for United Press International, was terminated in 1991 when her supervisors learned that Brienza used UPI's time, credentials and resources while writing a free- lance story for a gay newspaper. Brienza has filed a $12 million lawsuit alleging "sexual orientation discrimination." Pertinent in this regard is retired General William Weise's analysis of a recent study of 102 cases during the period 1989-1992 of punitive discharges of gays under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. 85% of these discharges involved non- consenting victims. 63% of cases where both participants were military members involved senior military personnel victimizing subordinates. 49% involved homosexual molestation of children by military personnel. Only 12% involved off-base offenses (as reported in June 17, 1993 guest column, "Goldwater currying favor with gay-rights lobby," Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph, pg. B-5, and "Army Investigation Release of Data on Gay Crime," The Washington Times, June 9, 1993). the Gay Rights community marched on Washington D.C. and made the following demands: Amend all federal Civil Rights Acts, other legislation and government controls to prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations and public services. A presidential order prohibiting the military from excluding for reasons of their sexual orientation, persons who of their own volition desire entrance into the Armed Services; and from issuing less than fully-honorable discharges for homosexuality; and the upgrading to fully honorable all such discharges previously issued, with retroactive benefits. A presidential order prohibiting discrimination in the federal civil service because of sexual orientation, in hiring and promoting; and prohibiting discrimination against homosexuals in security clearances. Elimination of tax inequities [favoring traditional families]. Elimination of bars to the entry, immigration and naturalization of homosexual aliens. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by [homosexuals], presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and . . . a viable alternative to heterosexuality. Federal funding of aid programs of [homosexual] organizations designed to alleviate the problems encountered by [homosexuals]. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female. [L]egislation prohibiting insurance companies and any other state-regulated enterprises from discriminating because of sexual orientation, in insurance and in bonding or any other prerequisite to employment or control of one's personal domain. [L]egislation so that child custody, adoption, visitation rights, foster parenting, and the like shall not be denied because of sexual orientation or marital status. Repeal of all laws prohibiting transvestism and cross dressing. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent. (Hint: They are coming for your children!) Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers. Here's mo Not one Boy Scout has ever been heterosexually molested by a scout leader! Gays make up only 3% of the U.S., yet they have assaulted half of the sexually molested children. One-third of these hurt kids are boys, and the vast majority of those are molested by men (Psychological Reports, 1986, vol. 58, pp. 327-337). Gay activists admit that these boys are almost all molested by men. But they absurdly maintain that a man who penetrates a boy is not necessarily committing an act of homosexual molestation. (They should read a dictionary). Finally, we are afraid of homosexual influences in the schools. They encourage kids to have homosexual sex. Of course they deny this, but they lie. Denver's Planned Parenthood Resource Center gives a brochure to high school girls titled I Think I Might be a Lesbian. The brochure states: "You may feel very scared at the thought of having sex with another woman. That's OK. Lots of us do, especially if it?s our first time." Again: They encourage kids to have homosexual sex. Then Planned Parenthood gives step-by-step instructions to our girls. "We can give each other pleasure by holding, kissing, hugging, stroking, rubbing our bodies to together, inserting our fingers into each other?s vaginas, stimulating each other's genitals with our hands and our tongues." The pamphlet gets far more disgusting than this but I will spare you. They, though, do not spare our children. Planned Parenthood goes on to recommend to our nations daughters "Other wonderful things lesbians do together." I don't want these morally bankrupt people getting near my children. As the Planned Parenthood News boldly stated, "Our goal is to be ready as educators to help young people obtain sex satisfaction before marriage." Planned Parenthood is heavily influenced by its homosexual members, as is the National Education Association. In 1996, the NEA passed Resolution B-6 calling for promotion of homosexuality in all school "observances and curricula." Perhaps hoping to answer the criticism that public schools hardly teach history anymore, now they are going to start teaching homosexual history. That should teach parents to stop complaining. Defending the sexual molestation of children in the nation's leading gay magazine, Carl Maves wrote, "How many gay men, I wonder, would have missed out on a valuable, liberating experience, one that initiated them into their sexuality, if it weren't for so-called molestation?" (See the full article titled, "Getting Over It" in The Advocate, May 5, 1992, page 85.) |
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jps wrote: In article , says... Harry Krause wrote in message ... Tell this to the jack-off in the White House, who entertains the Saudi royal family at his ersatz ranch in Texas. The ACLU is out to destroy Jews like you, Hairball: Are you competing with Karen of Oz for the ignorant puke of the month award? When did the Oooze of Oz work its way up to puke? Hey Hairball, that beloved ACLU of yours defends the right to distribute child pornograpy: Carl Maves wrote, "How many gay men, I wonder, would have missed out on a valuable, liberating experience, one that initiated them into their sexuality, if it weren't for so-called molestation?" (See the full article titled, "Getting Over It" in The Advocate, page 85.) The slogan for NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association, is "Sex by eight or it's too late," meaning not eight p.m., but eight years old. Time Magazine is always understanding of homosexual crime. They printed a puff image piece on Peter Melzer, the editor of NAMBLA's journal. In the article For the Love of Kids (Nov. 1, 93, page 51) the ACLU defended this pervert arguing that if we condemn "NAMBLA today, who is it tomorrow?" Melzer is also a New York City public school teacher (surprised?). He published an article In Praise of the Penises, on "how to make that special boy feel good." As to a police report on Melzer?s alleged sex with a Filipino boy, according to Time, there is no hard evidence that he abused this "or any other boy in the U.S." Yeah, right. The homosexuals chanted during their 1993 march on Washington, "Ten percent is not enough! Recruit, recruit, recruit!" They want my children. They want your children. Examine the record of those who defend homosexual adoption of children. Jim Joy, the executive director of Colorado?s ACLU, admitted during a PBS televised debate that the written national policy of the ACLU defends the right to distribute child pornography. As with many leading voices, the ACLU?s opposition of child abuse is hypocrisy. Every such video sold of a thirteen-year-old sexually exploits the child again. So the ACLU, known to tolerate child abuse, sells children out again by advocating their adoption by homosexuals. Homosexual leaders blatantly voice tolerance for child sex abuse. A prominent gay magazine, Out, quoted Damien Martin, the head of New York's homosexual Harvey Milk High School, as saying, "No kid has ever been hurt by [oral sex]" in September, 1994 on page 73. The leading gay publication, The Advocate, in an article titled Getting Over It pondered on May 5, 1992 about how many boys "would have missed out on a valuable, liberating experience - one that initiated them into their sexuality - if it weren?t for so-called molestation?" Time magazine also lacks zero tolerance for homosexual child abusers. They quoted the ACLU in defense of an aggressive advocate of pedophilia. NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association exists to promote homosexual sex with young boys. Leading gay-pride organizers in New York and San Francisco allowed NAMBLA to march undisguised in their parades repeatedly during the last two decades. A Time article grotesquely titled For the Love of Kids in November, 1993 quoted the ACLU defending a New York City teacher, Peter Melzer who edits the NAMBLA journal. Melzer published an article In Praise of the Penises, on "how to make that special boy feel good." As to the police report on Melzer's alleged sex with a Filipino boy, Time assured its readers, there is no hard evidence that he abused this "or any other boy in the U.S." In the U.S. The media defends homosexuals who want to adopt children, but it also supports homosexuals who openly advocate sex with kids. The national media warmly eulogized Alan Ginsburg this past spring conveniently ignoring this homosexual poet?s public endorsement of NAMBLA. In Denver, a convicted pedophile, who says today he controls his longings, is running for Denver School Board with the support of many in the homosexual community. Long-time gay activist David Thorstad, founding member of the Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights and former president of the New York Gay Activists Alliance loudly protested when in 1993 the March on Washington organizers broke with tradition and excluded pedophiles like NAMBLA. With all the attention, they feared the media would expose the homosexual acceptance of pedophilia. Talk about paranoia. The nation's largest gay publicist, Alyson Publications of Boston, which distributes Daddy?s Roommate and other homosexual books for kids, published Paedophilia: The Radical Case, hundreds of pages of why and how seven year old boys should be brought to climax. Another Alyson book, The Age Taboo on page 144 insists: "Boy-lovers... are not child molesters. The child abusers are... parents who force their staid morality onto the young people in their custody." A Florida judge recently ruled unconstitutional their age-of-consent law, following northern European nations in lowering the age at which dirty old men can legally set their sights on boys. Liberal ideas have taken their expected course with lawyers arguing that since adolescents have the right over their own bodies regardless of what parents or legislators think, then they can elect sex whenever and with whomever they choose, with age discrimination ultimately unenforceable. America's newspapers are their silent partners. Those who are soft on child sex, or even those boldly endorsing it, have nothing to fear from the mainstream media. Partly because of the media's silence, the Clinton administration voted to give ILGA, the International Lesbian and Gay Association consulting status at the United Nations even though NAMBLA was a full and active member of that organization, even appearing on its letterhead. Imagine, professed pedophiles advising on international child law. NAMBLA remained at the UN until the outcry of the religious right ousted them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Thus the broadly overlapping groups, the homosexual community and the open pedophiles, are longtime allies. Both groups work to break down previously unquestioned sexual standards. The national Gay Rights Platform of 1972 called for the repeal of all age-of-consent laws. Gay activist Andy Humm bragged of his influence over the New York City Council in the New York Native, August, 1983 and wrote that, "No one should be denied basic civil rights because of his or her orientation, whether the person be homosexual, heterosexual, transsexual, transvestite, pedophile, sadist, masochist, asexual; whatever one can imagine." We are not saying that gays will sexually molest a child. We are saying that homosexuals have long given aid and comfort to pedophiles, publicly. And we are saying that the media and other defenders of homosexuals are the silent partners of those who work toward the day when children are a sex commodity. The media rejects but intuitively fears the connection between child molestation and homosexuality. It therefore suppresses reports of the torrent of public advocacy for gay pedophilia. Instead, the media wears out the same worn cliché that homosexuals are no more likely to molest children than heterosexuals. On homosexual initiation, sex researchers Masters and Johnson wrote in Human Sexual Inadequacy that "Recruitment usually was accomplished by an older male, frequently in his twenties, but occasionally men in their thirties were the initiators: the teenager was left with the concept that whether or not he continued as an active homosexual, he would always be homophile-oriented." Homosexuals do reproduce sexually, by molesting children. According to a 1994 Out article titled "The Men From the Boys," the director of a home for runaway youth admits that between 14 and 16 years of age, he "probably had sex with well over a thousand people, most of them much older than myself." This boy hardly met a homosexual adult who would not have sex with him. Of Canadians imprisoned for pedophilia, a 1991 report reveals that 91 percent of molesters of non-familial boys admitted to no lifetime sexual contact other than homosexual according to Volume 6, page 323 of the Journal of Interpersonal Violence. In America, about one third of the children sexually molested are boys, and about ninety percent of them are hurt by men. The refereed scientific journal, Psychological Reports in 1986 presented research in Volume 58 starting on page 327 showing that homosexuals commit a far greater percentage of child sex crimes than demographics alone account for. Every man molesting a boy is committing a homosexual act. Young boys do not excite straight men. To let a homosexual make the point in his own words, the San Francisco Sentinel published a letter on March 26, 1992 headlined, "No Place for Homo-Homophobia" with the common admission that, "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality. For the gay community to imply that boy-love is not homosexual love is ridiculous." Activist pedophiles easily find media outlets. Activists seeking special advantages for gays have recently admitted that "Certainly it is true that `homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual orientation' is not equivalent to racial minority status..." (testimony of gay activist Robin Miller, before the Colorado State Elections/ Licensing Committee, September 19, 1991, emphasis added). They also say they consider the argument that divergent sexual behavior or alleged desire doesn't equal ethnicity as "irrelevant" to discussion of the issue. Writing in the March 22, 1994 issue of the gay publication The Advocate, gay business columnist Ed Mickens admits: "Today, it's rare that anyone gets fired just for being gay." As syndicated columnist Don Feder points out: "Mickens should know. He's the author of `The 100 Best Companies For Gay Men And Lesbians,' wherein are listed corporate giants with `gay-friendly policies,' including training programs that teach `sensitivity' on homosexual issues... A conscientious Christian or Jew is far more likely to feel uncomfortable in the politically correct workplace of the '90s than the average homosexual" ("Gay-rights lobby stakes hopes on House gambit," Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph, June 28, 1994, p. B5). Self-identified lesbian writer Donna Minkowitz comments on the "innateness" question in a recent Advocate article, entitled "Recruit, recruit, recruit!": "Remember that most of the line about homosex being one's nature, not a choice, was articulated as a response to brutal repression. `It's not our fault!' gay activists began to declaim a century ago, when queers first began to organize in Germany and England. `We didn't choose this, so don't punish us for it!' One hundred years later, it's time for us to abandon this defensive posture and walk upright on the earth. Maybe you didn't choose to be gay -- that's fine. But I did" (December 29, 1992). When homosexual author James Spada, in The Spada Report, a survey of homosexual attitudes and behavior (New American Library, 1979), asked homosexual subjects "Have you ever had your rights denied you because you are gay?" -- 72.1% of his respondents answered "No" and an additional 10% gave no answer or said they "didn't know." Gay militants Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen express clearly their contempt for an American public they are confident they can "convert" to acceptance and subsidy of the gay extremist agenda: "...By conversion we actually mean something more profoundly threatening to the American way of life. We mean conversion of the average American's emotions, mind and will, through a planned psychological attack. We mean `subverting' the mechanism of prejudice to our own ends -- using the very process that made America hate us to turn their hatred into warm regard -- whether they like it or not" (After the Ball, op. cit., pp. 153-154). The State of Hawaii recently passed S.B. No. 1811, legislation giving protected class status to "sexual orientation." In answer to an inquiry regarding the bill's effects on church hiring, Attorney General Warren Price wrote: " . . . Non-sectarian employees of the church, church-sponsored activities or programs are not exempt. This would include secretaries, janitors, gardeners, teachers, etc." [emphasis added] "Conservative Presbyterians failed to gain exemption from a gay rights provision in New Jersey's anti-discrimination laws [to which "sexual orientation" has recently been added]. The 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied a request from the state presbytery of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church for an injunction barring the state from enforcing [a] gay and lesbian civil rights provision against it. The OPC had argued that its First Amendment freedom would be violated if it were forced to hire or retain homosexual employees" (PCA Bulletin Supplement, April, 1993). In fact, in Boulder, Colorado today, under a "gay rights" ordinance, apartment dwellers and dorm-residing college students are being told they are legally prohibited from asking if a prospective roommate is gay. Furthermore, if they've been lied to and want to change roommates, the financial burden is on them. Wisconsin's former Governor Lee Sherman Dreyfus signed into law that State's bill granting protected class status to "sexual orientation." He was assured that the bill would have no effect on religious institutions like the 40-year-old Rawhide Boys' Ranch, a home for troubled boys. Shortly after Dreyfus left office, two male homosexuals appeared at the Ranch, demanding to be hired as boys' counselors. Dreyfus later wrote the bill's supporters, expressing his sense of betrayal at the homosexual community's breach of promise. Evidence has recently surfaced indicating that not only was the provocative action Dreyfus complained of deliberate, it was planned by the Wisconsin Governor's Council on Lesbian and Gay Issues. In minutes from an October 19, 1985, meeting of that Council, under the heading "RAWHIDE," we read: "Jim Thideman [one of eight members present] has asked some people to apply for a job [at Rawhide] and pursue filing a discrimination report with ERD upon refusal of employment, assuming it will be that clear cut. Kathleen Nichols [another Council member] reported that Char McLaughlan is acquainted with a lesbian with a son at Rawhide who has been refused family counseling sessions if accompanied by her lover. Follow-up is necessary to see if this woman would be willing to file a complaint." According to sources at Rawhide, heading off these conspiratorial plans cost in excess of $30,000. Relief only came through passage of additional legislation that exempted religious institutions like Rawhide. But Rawhide still has outstanding debts remaining from this episode. Under legislation granting special minority status to gays, we can expect a plethora of similar nuisance suits and test cases to clog our legal system and bleed defendants dry financially. Homosexual activists frequently express deep hostility to traditional, Judeo- Christian moral beliefs and values. Writings by gay activists show contempt for and determination to do away with the institution of the nuclear family. Gay social agendas detailed in Teal's The Gay Militants, Jay and Young's Out of the Closets and Tobin and Wicker's The Gay Crusaders specify that: "The family as we know it be abolished... That homosexuals be placed in positions of caregivers and permitted to become teachers, clergy, counselors, therapists and social workers. That they be allowed to participate in the rearing and education of children... That children be placed in communal care away from their parents, with boys and girls reared the same and cared for by adults who are under the direction of lesbian women... That children should be reared in a unisex role", etc. (as reported in Gay Is Not Good, pp. 104, 105, Frank M. duMas, Nashville, TN, Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1979). Gay activist Michael Swift echoed the frequent tone of such diatribes, writing: "[The family] is a spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy and violence -- and will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated" (Gay Community News, Feb. 15, 1987) Yet homosexual activists like Jeffrey Levi, formerly executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, have stated on numerous occasions their desire to see their lifestyle "affirmed" and "recognized in the law." Levi's statement to the National Press Club prior to gay extremists' 1987 "March on Washington" is highly revealing in this regard: "The demands of the March on Washington reflect what [our] agenda will be in the years ahead. They include passage of the gay and lesbian civil rights bill, an executive order dealing with that branch's discriminatory policies -- from the military to security clearances; passage of similar measures at the state level as well as repeal of sodomy laws. "But our agenda is becoming broader than that: we are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a right to protection from wrong. We also have a right -- as heterosexual Americans have already -- to see government and society affirm our lives. "Now that is a statement that may make our liberal friends queasy. But the truth is, until our relationships are recognized in the law -- through domestic partnership legislation or the definition of beneficiary, for example -- until we are provided with the same financial incentives in tax law and government programs to affirm our family relationships, then we will not have achieved equality in American society". Self-styled "gaylegal" scholar William Eskridge reveals an even more comprehensive perspective -- that of replacing American society's currently operative norms to suit the "gay rights" agenda -- in a recent article in one of America's most presitigious legal journals, The Yale Law Review. No one can tag Eskridge's comments as representing the "lunatic fringe" of the "gay rights" movement: "...Bisexual, gay, and lesbian activists ought to deny the centrality of heterosexuality, particularly as it has been developed around rituals and taboos of manhood in American society. As Adrienne Rich has suggested, bisexual, gay, and lesbian consciousness can undermine claims that compulsory heterosexuality is the universal norm for our society. Rich challenges Americans to rethink sexuality, not from the assumption that everyone must be heterosexual if at all possible, but from the assumption that people are polymorphously sexual, that there is a `lesbian in us.' "If Rich's point is true (and I believe it is), then the bisexual, gay, and lesbian community should reject the image that we are a subculture on the margins of mainstream heterosexual culture, for this internalizes the traditional assumption that we are deviants from the norm. Instead, legally as well as culturally, the norm is up for grabs, and as a community we must contribute to the reformulation of the norm. (The Yale Law Journal, "A Social Constructionist Critique of Posner's Sex and Reason: Steps Toward a Gaylegal Agenda," Volume 102, October 1992, Number 1, pp. 374-375) In 1991, a California Superior Court ordered Shell Oil to pay $5.3 million for wrongful discharge of Jeffrey Collins, a homosexual manager. Collins was terminated when his superiors discovered a memo he wrote on an office computer advertising an off-the-job "safe sex" party for gay men. The Court ruled that Collins' memo was "political activity" protected under California Supreme Court precedent. Julie Brienza, a former Supreme Court reporter for United Press International, was terminated in 1991 when her supervisors learned that Brienza used UPI's time, credentials and resources while writing a free- lance story for a gay newspaper. Brienza has filed a $12 million lawsuit alleging "sexual orientation discrimination." Pertinent in this regard is retired General William Weise's analysis of a recent study of 102 cases during the period 1989-1992 of punitive discharges of gays under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. 85% of these discharges involved non- consenting victims. 63% of cases where both participants were military members involved senior military personnel victimizing subordinates. 49% involved homosexual molestation of children by military personnel. Only 12% involved off-base offenses (as reported in June 17, 1993 guest column, "Goldwater currying favor with gay-rights lobby," Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph, pg. B-5, and "Army Investigation Release of Data on Gay Crime," The Washington Times, June 9, 1993). the Gay Rights community marched on Washington D.C. and made the following demands: Amend all federal Civil Rights Acts, other legislation and government controls to prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations and public services. A presidential order prohibiting the military from excluding for reasons of their sexual orientation, persons who of their own volition desire entrance into the Armed Services; and from issuing less than fully-honorable discharges for homosexuality; and the upgrading to fully honorable all such discharges previously issued, with retroactive benefits. A presidential order prohibiting discrimination in the federal civil service because of sexual orientation, in hiring and promoting; and prohibiting discrimination against homosexuals in security clearances. Elimination of tax inequities [favoring traditional families]. Elimination of bars to the entry, immigration and naturalization of homosexual aliens. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by [homosexuals], presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and . . . a viable alternative to heterosexuality. Federal funding of aid programs of [homosexual] organizations designed to alleviate the problems encountered by [homosexuals]. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female. [L]egislation prohibiting insurance companies and any other state-regulated enterprises from discriminating because of sexual orientation, in insurance and in bonding or any other prerequisite to employment or control of one's personal domain. [L]egislation so that child custody, adoption, visitation rights, foster parenting, and the like shall not be denied because of sexual orientation or marital status. Repeal of all laws prohibiting transvestism and cross dressing. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent. (Hint: They are coming for your children!) Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers. Here's mo Not one Boy Scout has ever been heterosexually molested by a scout leader! Gays make up only 3% of the U.S., yet they have assaulted half of the sexually molested children. One-third of these hurt kids are boys, and the vast majority of those are molested by men (Psychological Reports, 1986, vol. 58, pp. 327-337). Gay activists admit that these boys are almost all molested by men. But they absurdly maintain that a man who penetrates a boy is not necessarily committing an act of homosexual molestation. (They should read a dictionary). Finally, we are afraid of homosexual influences in the schools. They encourage kids to have homosexual sex. Of course they deny this, but they lie. Denver's Planned Parenthood Resource Center gives a brochure to high school girls titled I Think I Might be a Lesbian. The brochure states: "You may feel very scared at the thought of having sex with another woman. That's OK. Lots of us do, especially if it?s our first time." Again: They encourage kids to have homosexual sex. Then Planned Parenthood gives step-by-step instructions to our girls. "We can give each other pleasure by holding, kissing, hugging, stroking, rubbing our bodies to together, inserting our fingers into each other?s vaginas, stimulating each other's genitals with our hands and our tongues." The pamphlet gets far more disgusting than this but I will spare you. They, though, do not spare our children. Planned Parenthood goes on to recommend to our nations daughters "Other wonderful things lesbians do together." I don't want these morally bankrupt people getting near my children. As the Planned Parenthood News boldly stated, "Our goal is to be ready as educators to help young people obtain sex satisfaction before marriage." Planned Parenthood is heavily influenced by its homosexual members, as is the National Education Association. In 1996, the NEA passed Resolution B-6 calling for promotion of homosexuality in all school "observances and curricula." Perhaps hoping to answer the criticism that public schools hardly teach history anymore, now they are going to start teaching homosexual history. That should teach parents to stop complaining. Defending the sexual molestation of children in the nation's leading gay magazine, Carl Maves wrote, "How many gay men, I wonder, would have missed out on a valuable, liberating experience, one that initiated them into their sexuality, if it weren't for so-called molestation?" (See the full article titled, "Getting Over It" in The Advocate, May 5, 1992, page 85.) |
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Bob "jps" wrote in message ... In article , says... Harry Krause wrote in message ... Tell this to the jack-off in the White House, who entertains the Saudi royal family at his ersatz ranch in Texas. The ACLU is out to destroy Jews like you, Hairball: Are you competing with Karen of Oz for the ignorant puke of the month award? |
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In article , says... Harry Krause wrote in message ... Tell this to the jack-off in the White House, who entertains the Saudi royal family at his ersatz ranch in Texas. The ACLU is out to destroy Jews like you, Hairball: Are you competing with Karen of Oz for the ignorant puke of the month award? Now now jps I'm all for free competition you know that, & well you are below a dog, so I guess you're still the underdog?? Give it up you lefty simpletons, really just go away now you're finished & have been since afghanistan was a cake walk, but since then Iraq was a doddle, & the others? Iran, Libya & Nth Korea?? they just surrendered in the face of a strong US leader at last!!! Hooly dooly all you tax payers' dollar bludgers a re so totally buggered it doesn't matter. You're on your way to the bottom so instead of just pretending it'll all be OK, at least put on a life jacket or be getting the life boats ready, because we're coming to get you in the second term to stop you stealing from the tax payers dollar. The wind in the wires made a tattle tale sound Then saddam's capture broke over the railing & everyman knew even liar Harry did too it's the witch of November come wailing. K I try to keep a little on topic material if possible so ..... Here's where this liar works, the lowest of the low, a spruiker for a union rip off, he works in the "PR" dept of a union, that about tells it all PR Contacts For media inquiries, please contact the individual listed below: Harry Krause ULLICO Inc. (202) 682-7957 Here's some of Harry's lies for you, just to bring back old memories:-) But if I may?? before you read; take a look at these passages from an article about the bent union rip off, who rip off other unionists, (honour among .......???) ULLICO Union Pension-Owned Company Set to Lose $20-$30 Million Its stock windfall from the bankrupt Global Crossing now gone, Georgine, former head of the AFL-CIO's Bldg. & Construction Trades Dept., blamed chief financial officer John Grelle for the losses. Days later, Grelle resigned in protest, blasting Georgine for not selling the company jet, which costs $3 million a year. N.B. Now did you see that!!!!!??? Harry as you'll see below "claims" his wife has a corporate jet!!!! He's making these stories up as the jealous junior mail person in the PR dept!!!! There was no indication if Grelle also called on Georgine and other union boss directors of Ullico to return the more than $6 million they made in inside deals of Ullico stock in 2000 and 2001. In the late 90s, Ullico was able to buy Global Crossing stock at its initial public offering (IPO) price. By 1999, a $7.6 million investment had mushroomed to $335 million. After pricing its own stock at a set $25 per share, Ullico directors changed the rules, setting a new price at the beginning of each year. So these rip offs were raking it in at the expense of the workers in many unions & I'll suggest that the fantasy boats that Harry claims are HIS OWN are in fact the play things of the execs of the insurance CO, I also suggest that's his only involvement is as the boat boy for his union bosses!!! Global Crossing spiraled toward bankruptcy, and Ullico's stock took a tumble, the Ullico directors who had bought their stock at $54 a share were given two opportunities to sell it back, the first time for $146 a share, the second time for $75. As Georgine and the other Ullico officials made $6.7 million in profits, the union pension funds that own Ullico could not take advantage of the same deal. And clearly they have a very well practiced liar in the PR dept mail room to help post out those bogus spin releases:-) [New York Times 3/28/03] Anyway back to the lies:-) Just to make your day, not only was I a civilian employee in SE Asia, it was in Vietnam, it was during the war against Vietnam, I did see some horrific sights and I was working at the time for a U.S. general. Is that straightforward enough for you, John, or is your amoeba still chasing your synapse I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap candidates. I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer for my staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post. We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k, and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees. Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are not-for-profit enterprises. How do these compare to the bennies at your shop? Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year. Are they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to bankruptcy. Boy...and you had me going there for a minute. Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our business always goes up in a major election year. You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is such a total failure. The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there in case they're needed. Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD. The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to $10,000 per month. Sure. I'm in the market for a new marine diesel of 420-480 shp. I'm especially interested in Volvo's TAMD74P EDC, because Volvo has had a lot of experience with electronic controls in that size diesel. I've dismissed getting a Cat 3208 TA because the technology is so old and because a couple of commercial fishermen I know who have had 3208's have, basically, burned them out. Thanks. Yes, Cummins is talked about favorably by some of the guys I've been talking to. Most of them have had experience with Cats, especially the 3208, and in recent years some have moved to Volvos. These are commercial fishermen, mostly, running hulls somewhat similar to what we're doing. No, the diesel is for a new boat we're having built. Hmmm. A fishing/day cruising boat with some range, nice speed, a real soft ride, offshore capabilities and sleeping/full head(with standup shower enclosure)/galley accommodations. Fiberglass, although the architect did try to convince me to go with cold-molded wood, which I do like. More specifically, I suppose, a lobsta' boat, sort of, if that brings up a mental image for you. She'll measure 36' sans a bowsprit x a little more than 12' in beam. The hull buttom is built down to the keel. There are no chines. The hull is efficient at displacement and planing speeds. According to the hull builder, if we keep the weight within certain limits, we'll achieve a WOT of about 37-38 mph, and a very easy cruise of 30-32 mph on a single diesel of about 420-450 hp. She'll cruise slow and economically, too. We expect a very smooooooooooth riding boat, able to take on a big headsea at a pretty good clip without beating up the folks inside. Fitting out a boat like this is going to be an interesting and stimulating experience. Basically, we get to spec everything and we end up with a custom boat It's Lou Codega. He's a widely known and respected naval architect. He does Regulator's hulls, too. He's done the Navigator 37. I believe he's also done designs for Carolina Classic. Cummins faxed me a bunch of computer generated data today on engine choices for the new boat. On the 36-footer, 16,000 pounds displacement: QSM11 635 hp, 36.3 mph WOT, 32.1 mph at sustained cruise, marine gear ratio of 1.77, turning a four blade 26x35 prop on a 2.50 inch Aquamet 22 shaft. Too much engine. QSM11 535 hp at 2300 rpm, 33.3 mph WOT, 29.5 mph at sustained cruise of 2100 rpm, same gear ratio, 24x34 prop. Right on the money. 6CTA8.3 450 hp, 30.6 mph WOT, 27.5 mph at sustained cruise, 2.00:1 gear ratio, 24x31 four blade prop on Aquamet 22 2" shaft. Cummins tells me its program is "about 8% too conservative." Looks like the QSM11 535 will be the right engine. Its fuel use is only a little more than the 450's and a lot less than the 635 hp engine. What I want is a 30 mph sustained cruise speed, and 535 hp will do it. Cummins also figured the boat at 1000 pounds heavier than our target, which is probably the smart thing to do. Besides, the QSM is a new, all computerized design. The hull form is what got to me. The boat has a substantial keel and it is a built-down keel, right to its bottom, not just "tacked" on. It backs down beautifully. And it seems to roll one heck of a lot less in a beam sea than the semi-vee 36 footers I've been on, and especially some large deep vee fishing boats of about the same size its been my pleasure to fish aboard. I believe it is a function of the keel and the really low center of gravity. Amazing, for a boat that is round bilged and fairly flat under the transom. No chines. Just splash rails forward and aft. A soft, soft ride...which is what I wanted. Here's just some of his prior lies (in his own words pasted); I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing the new boat industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything was sold...every cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For near full-retail, too. He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had been a solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they gave him great rates. As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in my memory, and I *remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his wife), Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and participated in deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far more important than who was giving them blow jobs. Good lord. I met *every* president in the damned group except Bush, and I worked once for his father. My father used to pray that the north shore of LI Sound would be hit by a mild hurricane. No one injured, no on-shore property damaged, but lots of boats sunk. Preferably early in July. We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear, a broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary assignments they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full years. So, we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any, either. The proceeds were prudently invested. The PWC was won as a prize in a raffle. Never mind that. Why does he have a Bilgeliner in front of his office? Is it a display of "Boating Don'ts?" Yeah, when we were in the boat biz, my father always had one or two "around the back" that he was forced to take in trade. These were sold as "as is, where is." He made sure the engine would start and run. Beyond that, it was up to the prospective buyer to decide if he wanted it. They moved off the lot pretty quickly, partially because my dad's main store was on a highly trafficked commercial route with lots of manufacturing and machining and aerospace plants near by. In those days, workers at these places could fix anything. Actually, Dipper, I don't think my father ever saw a Bayliner. But he still called bumpers bumpers. -- Bayliner wined and dined my father a half dozen times to entice him into becoming its dealer. His operation was the largest small boat dealership in its area of New England, and for 30 years, he was the *exclusive* Evinrude dealer in a densely populated coastal county. He also handled Mercuries. He never liked Bayliners, and referred to them as "jerry-built." From 1947 until he died, he sold more than 500 outboard motors a year from his stores, accounting for a reasonably high percentage of *all* outboards sold in his home state for those years. This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to right after the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his warehouse, I found wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new 1949 Evinrude 8015 50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from Evinrude for winning some outboard stock utility or hydroplane race. I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the shop as head mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is still brand-new. I have no idea who might own it now. He also built boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood and all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and I've just been an occasional boat owner. Besides, I worked off and on in the boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said, I'm knee-deep in boat heritage. Oh, and I had some friends who died in the service, too, but it wasn't for what they believed in. They were drafted, shipped to Vietnam and came back in body bags. During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings for the Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to use them on smaller landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole Evinrude himself. My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor movie star or singer...I forgot which. Maybe both. Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have. Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice. Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have. Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have. Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have. Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under your command? I have. My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in winter in a 22' boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the fuel. Got a "fireboat" welcome in NYC. Here are some: Hatteras 43' sportfish Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop Morgan 33 O'Day 30 Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22 Century Coronado Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze. Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers with various Evinrudes Lighting class sailboat Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat. Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit) Alcort Sunfish Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders. Guaranteed 60 mph. In the late 1950's. Skimmar brand skiff Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider) Dyer Dhow Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass Penn Yan runabouts. Wood. Old Town wood and canvas canoe Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft. Leonard Wood to Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About halfway home it started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and EVERY SINGLE electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there was a large popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car caught fire. I pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire, removed my license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old MGA is still there. Sure was a pretty little car. Puh-lease, Karen. You've not seen nor have I ever posted one example of my professional writings on building structure and the effects on it of hurricane-force winds and seismic activity. I haven't done any of these in at least 10 year, but at the time I was field researching, photographing and writing these reports, they were quite accurate, topical and well-received by their intended audiences. A small fleet of Polar skiffs were purchased by an inshore bait, tackle and boat rental business on the ICW in NE Florida. These boats were not used on open waters. Within 90 days, cracks developed in the liners that also served as the deck over the flotation in the bottom of the hulls. A guide I know, one whose boats and engines are supplied to him by manufacturers, also had a Polar skiff go bad on him for the same reasons -liner and then hull fractures. Harry has claimed to have a 20 yrs his junior beautiful wife, he even put a fake pic of a beautiful woman on a website once claiming it was his "young bride", he may have a wife, although I doubt it, we don't like nor tolerate misogynists for long. Needless to say he's made up many "dramatic" over the top stories over the years about this lie to feed his ego & pretend he's the centre of attention, but as with his boat claims & other crap, there's never once been even a shred of independently verifiable material. After he stalked Madcow in real life, which was most frightening, I do suspect he's very very dangerous & that this "bride" story is his delusional appropriation of his, probably court ordered, treating psychotherapist as "wife" (it seems he was under lock & key for what?? over a year??? a sexual deviant maybe??), have a read of just a small part of his BS & make up your own mind, it's all about free choice:-) 1. She *is* my bride. There are no rules that determine the end of "bride-hood." If I want to refer to her as my bride, I may. 2. As a professional writer, I know the rules of language and am entitled to break them in exercise of my license. 3. I doubt many married women would object to their husbands lovingly referring to them as brides. The connotations are pleasant. 4. She's 20 years younger than I am. Naw. What happened was that I handled a couple of "political" consulting jobs funded out of the DC area to help a few candidates and defeat a couple of ballot issues. Through no fault of mine, we won each of the races, so some of the deep pockets types based in the DC area think I actually *know something* about the process. I was offered a contract that requires my presence in DC quite frequently. My bride also was offered a job up here that represented a significant professional career move. So, we're "up here" much of the time and "down there" the rest of it, except when we're "somewhere else." I've been back to Jax (well, really south of Jax) five times since coming "up here" late last summer and my bride just returned from a business trip there. I swear this is true. Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina, Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby. So when she gets to San Diego, I get a call asking, "What the hell did you do in Kansas...we didn't fly over one significant patch of water...?" Harry, you make over 500 posts a week to this group and you don't own a boat? And why are you so crabby? Maybe these two factors are related? One has to own something to use it? Hmmm. My bride drives off in her car every day, but she doesn't own it. I'm not crabby. You asked for advice I gave you some. I questioned your wanting to take a very small boat out into high seas and suddenly you turned sour. It's your pot; you are the one stewing in it. No, it is the boat of a friend. It is a 24' ProLine center console with, if I recall, a 225 hp Merc on it. It was a dark and stormy day in January (1997) when we went out, but the sky cleared once we got out to the Gulf Stream. Bride and I caught and released: 1 white marlin 12-15 yellowtail snappers, maybe two pounds each. Pretty, pretty fish. Assorted red snappers 1 amberjack 2 jack crevalle jacks 1 snook Nondescript sharks Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed state hospital for forensic patients? Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county facility for substance abusers? Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-bed facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which approximately half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol? Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-practitioner practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are seeking help for substance abuse problems? Licensed psychotherapist Screening as to character and background for each degree earned On-going screening by faculty while in educational system Interviews and screenings for required years of internships, plus, at the same time, supervision by a licensed professional. Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed therapist for two years of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by licensed practitioners Four hour written examination on state laws Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and practice My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final internship was as a psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric hospital where, on a daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average soldier. My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-bed state mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated numerous sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such "treatment" is part of being in the mental health professions. You see, I'm a nautical psychotherapist, and for only $125 an hour, until their health insurance runs out, I help Bayliner owners overcome their feelings of boatable inadequacy. She is a licensed, practicing psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she sees each day. Which can be taken any way one likes. 1. I'm married to a psychotherapist. Live-in therapy, dontcha know? And much of Freud is passe. My ex-wife surpassed the anti-Christ at least a decade ago. They're not actually "free" moments. I go to boat dealers to round-up Bayliner owners who are trying to find one who will take their own version of flotsam and jetsam in on trade. 1. The address listed is not a home address. It is an office. 2. I have three phone numbers. The phone number listed is not one of mine. It has never been one of mine. The phone number *did* belong to an after-hours message recording hotline my wife maintained for her most mentally disturbed patients. Some of these troubled souls were court-ordered referrals. *Every* call to that phone number--every call--was recorded AND because of the nature of the line, my wife had the ability to alert the telephone company to trace the phone number of every incoming call to that line, *even* if the person making the call tried to block his number. Why, you might ask? Because when you are dealing with suicidal people, they'll liable to tell their therapist over the phone that they are planning to take their life. If the therapist believes the threat is real, she or he will want to dispatch emergency srvices and perhaps the police. In the years my wife has provided this pro bono service, she has never received a threatening or abusive call from a mentally ill patient or court-ordered referral. However, after the ranking Flaming Ass of this newsgroup posted the hotline number in this newsgroup, she received a number of abusive, foul-mouthed AND life-threatening calls. These were mostly directed at me but, of course, I never received them BECAUSE (duh!) the phone is not mine and I've never answered it. Naturally, my wife alerted the authorities, with whom she works closely because of her court-referred patients. The authorities are investigating the callers and have involved both the FBI *and* authorities in other states, including Florida, Georgia, California and Texas. Working with the telephone company, the authorities have been able to trace the origin of virtually every abusive call. And, of course, they have the tape recordings of the abusive messages. Several suspects have been identified. I really don't know what the outcome of all this will be. We haven't had an update in several weeks, nor are either of us here that interested in the sleazeballs that would make such calls. The phone number, of course, is "wired," so when the obnoxious calls came in from the idiot rec.boaters, the numbers were easy enough to trace. The local police handled a complaint, the local telco was involved and when it was discovered the point of origin was out of state, the FBI got involved. At least one of the idiots was caught and prosecuted. As far as I can tell, he has not posted here again |
OT--Harry may get his wish...
K Smith wrote in message news:bu2v6e$cd75i$1@ID-
Give it up you lefty simpletons, really just go away now you're finished & have been since afghanistan was a cake walk, but since then Iraq was a doddle, & the others? Afghanistan a cake walk? Do you realize, that we are still there, still having trouble, still don't have binLaden (as Bush promised), the insurgents are on the rise again, and the country is going back to the war lords? Iraq a "doodle"? Do you understand that we are still there, still loosing young American men there, that more and more the Iraqis are finding it unpalatable that we are taking over their country, that daily there are attacks on our troops, that Iraqis are getting more and more dissentive because we won't allow them to govern ourselves? In the case of both of the above, do you have any idea how much this idiocy has cost the American taxpayers? A cakewalk? Iran, Libya & Nth Korea?? they just surrendered in the face of a strong US leader at last!!! Hooly dooly all you tax payers' dollar bludgers a re so totally buggered it doesn't matter. When did these countries "surrender" to us? You're on your way to the bottom so instead of just pretending it'll all be OK, at least put on a life jacket or be getting the life boats ready, because we're coming to get you in the second term to stop you stealing from the tax payers dollar. There are no taxpayer's dollars to steal, Bush has already done that to pay for his wars. it's the witch of November come wailing. I can't wait! |
OT--Harry may get his wish...
"Christopher Robin" wrote in message
om... Harry Krause wrote in message ... Tell this to the jack-off in the White House, who entertains the Saudi royal family at his ersatz ranch in Texas. The ACLU is out to destroy Jews like you, Hairball: Based on your logic, nobody should be learning about certain Christian sects, either, since many believe that non-Christians will be destroyed at some mythical moment in the future. Is that less hateful than what you believe is said in the Koran? |
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