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DSK February 3rd 05 01:25 AM

OT--Europe, Thy Name is Cowardice
 
NOYB wrote:
EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE
(Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG)

A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your family
name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because
it's so terribly true.
(lots snipped)
These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands,
frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber
breaking into a neighbor's house.


As usual, you don't have a clue... totally barking up the wrong tree.
The fact that European countries are not invading Arab nations on false
pretenses doesn't mean they are not fighting terrorism effectively

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4207295.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe...den.terror.ap/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4223471.stm

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...0894DD4044 82

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2690629.stm

http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/?/news/...9/europe010919

http://english.people.com.cn/english...701_73924.html

http://www.ict.org.il/spotlight/det.cfm?id=678


Dave Hall February 3rd 05 12:39 PM

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:25:35 -0500, DSK wrote:

NOYB wrote:
EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE
(Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG)

A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your family
name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head because
it's so terribly true.
(lots snipped)
These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands,
frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber
breaking into a neighbor's house.


As usual, you don't have a clue... totally barking up the wrong tree.
The fact that European countries are not invading Arab nations on false
pretenses doesn't mean they are not fighting terrorism effectively

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4207295.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe...den.terror.ap/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4223471.stm

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...0894DD4044 82

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2690629.stm

http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/?/news/...9/europe010919

http://english.people.com.cn/english...701_73924.html

http://www.ict.org.il/spotlight/det.cfm?id=678



It would seem that you are the one needing a clue infusion, as none of
those articles shows any form of offensive terrorism fighting. They've
been little more than defensive and reactive in nature. Like I once
challenged you to provide, and you failed to, Europeans have done
little to fight the problem at the source, believing naively, that
they can fight terrorism by simply capturing them as they try to carry
out their plans. The problem is that they may capture 99% of the
terrorists, but it only takes 1 with a nuke to succeed, and well......

Appeasement and ignorantly hiding their heads in the sand thinking
that terrorism is a "manageable" fad that will go away on its own if
we hold strong, is a very poor course of action in this case. Like the
"treaties" with Hitler in the 1930's gave a false sense of security,
strictly defensive policies with regard to terrorism is equally
unwise.

Dave


NOYB February 4th 05 12:17 AM


"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE
(Commentary by Mathias Dapfner CEO, Axel Springer, AG)

A few days ago Henry Broder wrote in Welt am Sonntag, "Europe - your
family name is appeasement." It's a phrase you can't get out of your head
because it's so terribly true.
(lots snipped)
These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands,
frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber
breaking into a neighbor's house.


As usual, you don't have a clue...


It's not my commentary. Take up your grievances with Mathias Dapfner.



DSK February 4th 05 01:25 AM

NOYB wrote:
It's not my commentary. Take up your grievances with Mathias Dapfner.


Oh, you posted it because you disagree with it?

DSK


Doug Kanter February 4th 05 02:19 PM

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:18:47 -0500, DSK wrote:

... I guess tracking down and locking up terrorists by due process
of law is not exciting enough for a President who thinks the U.S.
military is a computer game, and cares nothing for lives of our soldiers
or the security of U.S. citizens.


Dave Hall wrote:
Not if you don't stamp out terrorism at the source. For every
terrorist that you catch, there are thousands more waiting for their
chance to see Allah and his 72 virgins.


Not if you don't invade Arab countries on transparent pretexts and
inspire tens of thousands of young Muslims to hate & despise America.


The hate was already there. We've only lifted the veil which had been
covering it. Young Muslims had been taught to "hate" western culture
long before the first American bomb hit the mid-east. They view us a
"the devils", and they have the job to rid the world of us. You can't
rationalize this in-bread intrinsic religiously inspired motivation
with simple political gaffes.


That's "inbred", Einstein.

Back to the facts: The hate was already there. Do you think our behavior
over the past 24 months has given Arab youth more motivation to want to
attack us, or less?

This is simple: More, or less.



Short Wave Sportfishing February 4th 05 02:25 PM

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:19:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:18:47 -0500, DSK wrote:

... I guess tracking down and locking up terrorists by due process
of law is not exciting enough for a President who thinks the U.S.
military is a computer game, and cares nothing for lives of our soldiers
or the security of U.S. citizens.


Dave Hall wrote:
Not if you don't stamp out terrorism at the source. For every
terrorist that you catch, there are thousands more waiting for their
chance to see Allah and his 72 virgins.


Not if you don't invade Arab countries on transparent pretexts and
inspire tens of thousands of young Muslims to hate & despise America.


The hate was already there. We've only lifted the veil which had been
covering it. Young Muslims had been taught to "hate" western culture
long before the first American bomb hit the mid-east. They view us a
"the devils", and they have the job to rid the world of us. You can't
rationalize this in-bread intrinsic religiously inspired motivation
with simple political gaffes.


That's "inbred", Einstein.

Back to the facts: The hate was already there. Do you think our behavior
over the past 24 months has given Arab youth more motivation to want to
attack us, or less?

This is simple: More, or less.


When last I left, Doug and Dave (or Dave and Doug) were going on and
on and on...

It's nice to be home again. :)

Later,

Tom

JimH February 4th 05 02:32 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:19:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:18:47 -0500, DSK wrote:

... I guess tracking down and locking up terrorists by due process
of law is not exciting enough for a President who thinks the U.S.
military is a computer game, and cares nothing for lives of our
soldiers
or the security of U.S. citizens.


Dave Hall wrote:
Not if you don't stamp out terrorism at the source. For every
terrorist that you catch, there are thousands more waiting for their
chance to see Allah and his 72 virgins.


Not if you don't invade Arab countries on transparent pretexts and
inspire tens of thousands of young Muslims to hate & despise America.

The hate was already there. We've only lifted the veil which had been
covering it. Young Muslims had been taught to "hate" western culture
long before the first American bomb hit the mid-east. They view us a
"the devils", and they have the job to rid the world of us. You can't
rationalize this in-bread intrinsic religiously inspired motivation
with simple political gaffes.


That's "inbred", Einstein.

Back to the facts: The hate was already there. Do you think our behavior
over the past 24 months has given Arab youth more motivation to want to
attack us, or less?

This is simple: More, or less.


When last I left, Doug and Dave (or Dave and Doug) were going on and
on and on...

It's nice to be home again. :)

Later,

Tom


Sing along with me...."this is the song that never ends....it just goes on
and on my friend......;-)



Doug Kanter February 4th 05 03:56 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:19:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:18:47 -0500, DSK wrote:

... I guess tracking down and locking up terrorists by due process
of law is not exciting enough for a President who thinks the U.S.
military is a computer game, and cares nothing for lives of our
soldiers
or the security of U.S. citizens.


Dave Hall wrote:
Not if you don't stamp out terrorism at the source. For every
terrorist that you catch, there are thousands more waiting for their
chance to see Allah and his 72 virgins.


Not if you don't invade Arab countries on transparent pretexts and
inspire tens of thousands of young Muslims to hate & despise America.

The hate was already there. We've only lifted the veil which had been
covering it. Young Muslims had been taught to "hate" western culture
long before the first American bomb hit the mid-east. They view us a
"the devils", and they have the job to rid the world of us. You can't
rationalize this in-bread intrinsic religiously inspired motivation
with simple political gaffes.


That's "inbred", Einstein.

Back to the facts: The hate was already there. Do you think our behavior
over the past 24 months has given Arab youth more motivation to want to
attack us, or less?

This is simple: More, or less.


When last I left, Doug and Dave (or Dave and Doug) were going on and
on and on...

It's nice to be home again. :)

Later,

Tom


Welcome back, Tom. How was your hibernation? :-)



Doug Kanter February 4th 05 03:57 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:19:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:18:47 -0500, DSK wrote:

... I guess tracking down and locking up terrorists by due process
of law is not exciting enough for a President who thinks the U.S.
military is a computer game, and cares nothing for lives of our
soldiers
or the security of U.S. citizens.


Dave Hall wrote:
Not if you don't stamp out terrorism at the source. For every
terrorist that you catch, there are thousands more waiting for their
chance to see Allah and his 72 virgins.


Not if you don't invade Arab countries on transparent pretexts and
inspire tens of thousands of young Muslims to hate & despise America.

The hate was already there. We've only lifted the veil which had been
covering it. Young Muslims had been taught to "hate" western culture
long before the first American bomb hit the mid-east. They view us a
"the devils", and they have the job to rid the world of us. You can't
rationalize this in-bread intrinsic religiously inspired motivation
with simple political gaffes.

That's "inbred", Einstein.

Back to the facts: The hate was already there. Do you think our behavior
over the past 24 months has given Arab youth more motivation to want to
attack us, or less?

This is simple: More, or less.


When last I left, Doug and Dave (or Dave and Doug) were going on and
on and on...

It's nice to be home again. :)

Later,

Tom


Sing along with me...."this is the song that never ends....it just goes on
and on my friend......;-)


Hey...I've been taking it easy on little Dave for the past week or two.




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