(OT) Here's How "Advanced" Europe Is Over The USA
 

Yes,, interesting article,,

You see,, this is where Harry Krause comes from,, he being a german (but
later changed that statement) and he puts down other cultures and their
prostitute problems. Yet his own country has a legal prostitution situation
where they force women into the industry,,, lol,,, most countries are trying
to clean up such a industry where krause and his germans are promoting it.

Tell me krause,,, after you visited Bangkok for those three days at a
time,,, like the stereotypical sexual tourists does,,, seeing the (as most
say) the most beautiful women in the world,,, How do you feel when you
return yourself to your home country of germany,, and see some (yuk) german
prostitutes,,, ouch,,,, ooomy ,,,, lol,,, It is no wonder why you spend
your time at the upscale liquor store and wear that trench coat down to the
local video porn shop as you speak about so often,,, lol,,,, german
prostitutes,,, lol,,, ouch,,,

It is also no wonder why you have had 3 wives there krasue,,, or your own
mother has had 3 husbands,,, lol,,, And now you have this young one,,, who
is working on her Doctor degree,,,lol,,, ouch,,, o my ,,, now that is
funny,,, kinda makes new meaning to the term "returning student" ,,, lol,,,,
ouch,,,













"Edward Teach" wrote in message
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On 31 Jan 2005, Anonymous ] wrote:
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'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits' By
Clare Chapman (Filed: 30/01/2005)

A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual
services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her
unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.

Prostitution was legalised in Germany just over two years ago and
brothel owners - who must pay tax and employee health insurance - were
granted access to official databases of jobseekers.

The waitress, an unemployed information technology professional, had
said that she was willing to work in a bar at night and had worked in a
cafe.

She received a letter from the job centre telling her that an employer
was interested in her "profile'' and that she should ring them. Only on
doing so did the woman, who has not been identified for legal reasons,
realise that she was calling a brothel.

Under Germany's welfare reforms, any woman under 55 who has been out of
work for more than a year can be forced to take an available job -
including in the sex industry - or lose her unemployment benefit. Last
month German unemployment rose for the 11th consecutive month to 4.5
million, taking the number out of work to its highest since
reunification in 1990.

The government had considered making brothels an exception on moral
grounds, but decided that it would be too difficult to distinguish them
from bars. As a result, job centres must treat employers looking for a
prostitute in the same way as those looking for a dental nurse.

When the waitress looked into suing the job centre, she found out that
it had not broken the law. Job centres that refuse to penalise people
who turn down a job by cutting their benefits face legal action from
the potential employer.

"There is now nothing in the law to stop women from being sent into the
sex industry," said Merchthild Garweg, a lawyer from Hamburg who
specialises in such cases. "The new regulations say that working in the
sex industry is not immoral any more, and so jobs cannot be turned down
without a risk to benefits."

Miss Garweg said that women who had worked in call centres had been
offered jobs on telephone sex lines. At one job centre in the city of
Gotha, a 23-year-old woman was told that she had to attend an interview
as a "nude model", and should report back on the meeting. Employers in
the sex industry can also advertise in job centres, a move that came
into force this month. A job centre that refuses to accept the
advertisement can be sued.

Tatiana Ulyanova, who owns a brothel in central Berlin, has been
searching the online database of her local job centre for recruits.

"Why shouldn't I look for employees through the job centre when I pay
my taxes just like anybody else?" said Miss Ulyanova.

Ulrich Kueperkoch wanted to open a brothel in Goerlitz, in former East
Germany, but his local job centre withdrew his advertisement for 12
prostitutes, saying it would be impossible to find them.

Mr Kueperkoch said that he was confident of demand for a brothel in the
area and planned to take a claim for compensation to the highest court.
Prostitution was legalised in Germany in 2002 because the government
believed that this would help to combat trafficking in women and cut
links to organised crime.

Miss Garweg believes that pressure on job centres to meet employment
targets will soon result in them using their powers to cut the benefits
of women who refuse jobs providing sexual services.

"They are already prepared to push women into jobs related to sexual
services, but which don't count as prostitution,'' she said.

"Now that prostitution is no longer considered by the law to be
immoral, there is really nothing but the goodwill of the job centres to
stop them from pushing women into jobs they don't want to do."

OK. I'm confused.

Prostitution is legal in Germany.
This woman was offered a job.

If she turned down legal employment here in the US, there would be huge
numbers of right wingers screaming to have her cut from any welfare or
unemployment benefits.

Does this mean that the next uneducated young white woman, living on
welfare in a broken down single wide on a gravel lot in West Virginia,
will get a sympathetic response if she turns down a job cleaning
toilets at WalMart as something that would be beneath her dignity?

How often do we hear that the unemployed or those on welfare should be
compelled to take *any* job?

It isn't like she has been asked to do something illegal.
It isn't even all that immoral, compared to, say, working in a liquor
store and passing bottles of hootch out the "drive-thru" window.
(playing devil's advocate can be fun!)

Wally wrote:

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Droll is spelled with a "d", Wally. :-)

Your highly subjective ethics are evident. No criticisms launched at
the right wingers who start these threads, just at the liberals who
bother to rebutt.

Some things are as evident as a cheap whore, even a legal "provider of
sexual service" in Germany.

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OK. I'm confused.

You are not confused you are stupid.

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OK. I'm confused.


You are not confused you are stupid.




Sigh. Bert, on the ladder of IQ, you're standing on the ground.

Why don't you give it up Harry?

I make more money than you do.

I have an higher IQ than you do.

My life is happier than yours.

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OK. I'm confused.


You are not confused you are stupid.




Sigh. Bert, on the ladder of IQ, you're standing on the ground.

Why don't you give it up Harry?

I make more money than you do.

I have an higher IQ than you do.

My life is happier than yours.

That is not saying much......just about everybody that posts here makes
more than harry, has a higher IQ and is happier............except for our
resident "King of the NG idiots" aka asslicker

On 31 Jan 2005 14:43:31 -0800, wrote:

OK. I'm confused.

Prostitution is legal in Germany.
This woman was offered a job.

If she turned down legal employment here in the US, there would be huge
numbers of right wingers screaming to have her cut from any welfare or
unemployment benefits.

Does this mean that the next uneducated young white woman, living on
welfare in a broken down single wide on a gravel lot in West Virginia,
will get a sympathetic response if she turns down a job cleaning
toilets at WalMart as something that would be beneath her dignity?

How often do we hear that the unemployed or those on welfare should be
compelled to take *any* job?

It isn't like she has been asked to do something illegal.
It isn't even all that immoral, compared to, say, working in a liquor
store and passing bottles of hootch out the "drive-thru" window.
(playing devil's advocate can be fun!)


Three things:

1. We're not in Germany, who's evidently allowed its moral compass to
go far south.

2. There's a big difference between cleaning toilets and cheapening
the moral sanctity of monogamous sex and marriage.

3. Would she get "hazard pay" for the risks of exposure to STD's?

Dave

P. Fritz wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bert Robbins wrote:
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OK. I'm confused.


You are not confused you are stupid.




Sigh. Bert, on the ladder of IQ, you're standing on the ground.

Why don't you give it up Harry?

I make more money than you do.

I have an higher IQ than you do.

My life is happier than yours.

That is not saying much......just about everybody that posts here
makes
more than harry, has a higher IQ and is happier............except for
our
resident "King of the NG idiots" aka asslicker

Paul, I see that you are still not adult enough to do anything in a
newsgroup except childish insults, and even more childish name calling.
Grow up. Get a life. Apparently, those support newsgroups for your
divorce and to help you raise a kid aren't working very well. You still
act bitter, and still act childish.
Now. Please, vindicate your statements. Show the group what you know
about my income. Hmmm, you CAN'T, can you?