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[email protected] January 29th 05 11:23 PM

1987 80 hp mercury outboard idle
 
How do you adjust the idle on this year model? I just need it to drop
a tad. Thanks,


tony thomas January 30th 05 12:41 AM

Disconnect the throttle cable from the motor linkage and verify idle is set
correctly (600 to 800 rpms in gear in the water moving forward). There is a
set screw on the linkage that goes against a stop to adjust. Out of the
water or in neutral it may idle as high as 1000 or more rpms depending on
the boat and prop. The closer you can get it to 600 and it stay running
smoothly and shift into gear without dieing the better you are for the
gears.

Once adjusted properly reconnect the throttle cable so it has not slop in
it.

Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com


wrote in message
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How do you adjust the idle on this year model? I just need it to drop
a tad. Thanks,




[email protected] January 30th 05 01:34 AM

"There is a set screw on the linkage that goes against a stop to
adjust"

That is what I can not find. I have looked all over and can not find
it. I'm not a boat mechanic by any means but I have worked on auto
engines. There is an arm that goes to the fly wheel that when I move
it back slows it down, but I was thinking that adjusted the timing and
I did not want to set the idle by changing the timing. I did read
somewhere that on that model, that was the only way. Any help would be
great.


tony thomas January 30th 05 02:49 AM

If there is no stop screw then adjust using the throttle cable.
What you describe is the timing adjust.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com
wrote in message
oups.com...
"There is a set screw on the linkage that goes against a stop to
adjust"

That is what I can not find. I have looked all over and can not find
it. I'm not a boat mechanic by any means but I have worked on auto
engines. There is an arm that goes to the fly wheel that when I move
it back slows it down, but I was thinking that adjusted the timing and
I did not want to set the idle by changing the timing. I did read
somewhere that on that model, that was the only way. Any help would be
great.




Clams Canino January 30th 05 04:30 AM

On most old mercs the carb throttles are totally closed at idle (or should
be) and in fact it is the idle timing that is the final arbiter of idle
speed. Just make sure you don;t screw wiith the max-avance timing or things
could get ugly. Go over to iboats and search for a post I did entitled
"timing and sync" - the search engine there is pretty good.

-W

wrote in message
oups.com...
"There is a set screw on the linkage that goes against a stop to
adjust"

That is what I can not find. I have looked all over and can not find
it. I'm not a boat mechanic by any means but I have worked on auto
engines. There is an arm that goes to the fly wheel that when I move
it back slows it down, but I was thinking that adjusted the timing and
I did not want to set the idle by changing the timing. I did read
somewhere that on that model, that was the only way. Any help would be
great.




K. Smith January 30th 05 04:51 AM

wrote:
How do you adjust the idle on this year model? I just need it to drop
a tad. Thanks,


If you get someone to slowly work the throttle from idle to full a few
times while you watch you'll see what happens.

Essentially idle speed is controlled with spark timing retard not by
adjusting the throttle plates. You will notice from idle the throttle
moves quite a ways before it even starts to open the throttle plate linkage.

The relationship between all the links is important otherwise you can
finish up with too much advance at too low a revs, so don't just adjust
anything, even if it does change the idle it may be bad for the engine.

The vertical arm on the side of the engine, the one connected to the
throttle cable itself, it has a lock nutted screw at it's lowest point,
it's actually below the arms pivot point, down close to where the
throttle cable connects on.

That's the idle speed adjustment screw that Tony is referring to any
others are up higher above the arms pivots & should not be touched
unless you propose to fully adjust the engine's timing including the
pickup point & max advance. Once you have seen how it works & ID Tony's
point then as per his instructions.


K

& Krause's lie of the day is:

Other than what he's picked up here over the years this liar
clearly doesn't & never has owned a boat & certainly never done any real
boating, yet he insults all the NG real boaters with lies like this;

Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have.
Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice.
Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have.
Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have.
Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have.
Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat under

your command? I have.



[email protected] January 30th 05 02:06 PM

" The vertical arm on the side of the engine, the one connect=ADed to
the
throttle cable itself, it has a lock nutted screw at it's lo=ADwest
point,
it's actually below the arms pivot point, down close to wher=ADe the
throttle cable connects on. "

Is this the one that is connected to the lower arm that is also
connected to the upper timming adjustment arm?


Clams Canino January 30th 05 03:48 PM

Yes.

-W

wrote in message
oups.com...
" The vertical arm on the side of the engine, the one connect*ed to
the
throttle cable itself, it has a lock nutted screw at it's lo*west
point,
it's actually below the arms pivot point, down close to wher*e the
throttle cable connects on. "

Is this the one that is connected to the lower arm that is also
connected to the upper timming adjustment arm?



[email protected] January 30th 05 07:36 PM

Ok, I have backed off the screw enough where it just plays back and
forth before it hits the carb arm. even with it not hitting the carb
arm (the arm that connects all three carbs) it still idles fast. Does
this year model have an automatic choke? maybe that is what is stuck?
any ideas?

Thanks for eveyones help so far!


K. Smith January 30th 05 09:51 PM

wrote:
Ok, I have backed off the screw enough where it just plays back and
forth before it hits the carb arm. even with it not hitting the carb
arm (the arm that connects all three carbs) it still idles fast. Does
this year model have an automatic choke? maybe that is what is stuck?
any ideas?

Thanks for eveyones help so far!


Clams is a full on expert in these old Mercs, he'll sort you out I'm sure.


K


Of course the big question with Krause's lies is just how does he come
up with these absurd BS stories?? After all it's clear he has no
education nor even basic intelligence, well here's an example;


Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and
hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina,
Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby.



Notwithstanding it's just more of his racist based abuse of others he
sees as lesser people because of their address, the interesting part is
the endless lies he throws in about the non existent "young bride" lie.

Well look where he got the idea of the "corporate jet" lie; guess
what??? Good ol' Ullico spends genuine unionists money on a corporate
jet!!! & as with all their type they squabble over who gets the most of
other peoples' money!!!


ULLICO
Union Pension-Owned Company Set to Lose $20-$30 Million
Its stock windfall from the bankrupt Global Crossing now gone,
Georgine, former head of the AFL-CIO's Bldg. & Construction Trades
Dept., blamed chief financial officer John Grelle for the losses.
Days later, Grelle resigned in protest, blasting Georgine for not
selling the company jet, which costs $3 million a year.



Remember this is hard working in the main, ordinary honest unionists'
money they're ****ing away then fighting over the leftovers???


K. Smith January 30th 05 10:58 PM

Harry Krause wrote:
K. Smith wrote:

wrote:

Ok, I have backed off the screw enough where it just plays back and
forth before it hits the carb arm. even with it not hitting the carb
arm (the arm that connects all three carbs) it still idles fast. Does
this year model have an automatic choke? maybe that is what is stuck?
any ideas?

Thanks for eveyones help so far!


Clams is a full on expert in these old Mercs, he'll sort you out
I'm sure.


K


Of course the big question with Krause's lies is just how does he
come up with these absurd BS stories?? After all it's clear he has no
education nor even basic intelligence, well here's an example;




Invent any diesel outboard motors in between your stints as a fluffer at
the local porn palace, Ms. Smith?

Tell us true...is Tuuuuu,,,,k your illegitimate son?


So Krause, uuummmmm is this a denial???

Oh poor little smuckims; you'll feel better if you just tell the truth.

K


Of course the big question with Krause's lies is just how does he
come up with these absurd BS stories?? After all it's clear he has no
education nor even basic intelligence, well here's an example;


Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and
hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina,
Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby.




Notwithstanding it's just more of his racist based abuse of others
he sees as lesser people because of their address, the interesting part
is the endless lies he throws in about the non existent "young bride" lie.

Well look where he got the idea of the "corporate jet" lie; guess
what??? Good ol' Ullico spends genuine unionists money on a corporate
jet!!! & as with all their type they squabble over who gets the most of
other peoples' money!!!


ULLICO
Union Pension-Owned Company Set to Lose $20-$30 Million
Its stock windfall from the bankrupt Global Crossing now gone,
Georgine, former head of the AFL-CIO's Bldg. & Construction Trades
Dept., blamed chief financial officer John Grelle for the losses.
Days later, Grelle resigned in protest, blasting Georgine for not
selling the company jet, which costs $3 million a year.




Remember this is hard working in the main, ordinary honest
unionists' money they're ****ing away then fighting over the leftovers???


Clams Canino January 31st 05 05:42 AM

No, not the choke.

As I recall the stop screw is IN the lower part of the same large arm the
throttle cable connects to, IE it does no thit the arm, it' sin the arm and
hits the block.

To do this right you need to disconnect the cable and re-adjust it AFTER
you set the idle.

-W

wrote in message
ups.com...
Ok, I have backed off the screw enough where it just plays back and
forth before it hits the carb arm. even with it not hitting the carb
arm (the arm that connects all three carbs) it still idles fast. Does
this year model have an automatic choke? maybe that is what is stuck?
any ideas?

Thanks for eveyones help so far!




Tuuuk January 31st 05 11:36 AM

Now that is funny

A university grad,, all sorts of credentials,,, phd,, masters,, lol,,, and
had to be protected by the union slobs local 109 brotherhood of greedy
pickle packers,,, lol,,, ooo my,,, the plot just gets thicker,,

And to answer your question there krause,,, NO,,, I have never been on a
union,, never needed to, always have had the skill sets and credentials that
allowed me to enter into the market place on my own,, I never needed the
bullying, threats,, guns to the heads, collective bullying, etc etc,,, So no
krause,,, although you have had the protection of unions your entire working
career,, I proudly have never required that and don't need it in the
future,,, I believe (as with my employer) that I add value,, at what time I
no longer add value,, well then I must go else where,, kinda like you
krause,,, when you were no longer adding value to your first two wives,,,
things had to break,,, your mom the same thing,,, and same as your
children,,, when they no longer added value to your nest,,, they were out,,,
just like YOU YOURSELF SAID,,, lol,,, you germans are funny,,,,









"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Tuuuk wrote:
So what is your point krause???


That you are a complete, total, idiotic dumfoch, as evidence by your
postings here. Nothing more.



You think I give a ****


Frankly, I think you are one.

And you claim to be a university teacher


No, I don't. I was a graduate assistant and paid for my tuition by
teaching bonehead English. I did teach, but grad assistants are not
considered faculty, or at least not where and when I got my master's.


So what did you teach there krause??? family law???


What is this "family law" connection you keep bringing up?


Hey...I hear you were accepted into FudgePackers Local 103 after your
experience with the righties here...is that true?




[email protected] January 31st 05 09:24 PM

Ok, to the people that are not really posting to this topic... Please
take your discussion somewhere else. I came here to talk about
boats...

I think I have figured out that on this model you have to adjust the
idle buy the timing pickup. So this is the question... Do you think I
could do this on my own (I have some auto engine exp) or should I take
it somewhere to have it done? And if I do decide to do it on my own,
does anyone have any suggestions on how to set it?

Thanks,


Clams Canino January 31st 05 10:52 PM

As I tried to explain, the throttle arm is tied directly to the timing and
carbs. You need to 1st disconnect the cable from the arm - then adjust the
arm. Then adjust the cable so that there is just slight tension of the arm
against the stop when in neutral.

-W

wrote in message
oups.com...
Ok, to the people that are not really posting to this topic... Please
take your discussion somewhere else. I came here to talk about
boats...

I think I have figured out that on this model you have to adjust the
idle buy the timing pickup. So this is the question... Do you think I
could do this on my own (I have some auto engine exp) or should I take
it somewhere to have it done? And if I do decide to do it on my own,
does anyone have any suggestions on how to set it?

Thanks,




[email protected] February 1st 05 12:20 AM

Clams Canino
I got that part... now I just need instructions on how to properly set
the timing. I hear there is a trick to it...
By the way thanks for all the info so far.


Clams Canino February 1st 05 06:05 AM

The proper timing for idle IS the place where it idles down to where you
want it. About 700-850 rpm in a perfect world.

-W

wrote in message
oups.com...
Clams Canino
I got that part... now I just need instructions on how to properly set
the timing. I hear there is a trick to it...
By the way thanks for all the info so far.




Tuuuk February 1st 05 11:10 AM

krause,,

you are a liar


It isn't funny your involvement with unions,, I mean you said yourself that
you knew Jimmy Hoffa personally,,, lol,,, you said yourself your own
involvement with two unions helped or probably caused their companies
demise.
Your union slob involvement and destruction of the economy had your hand in
it krause,, I bet you are proud of that krause,, job migration ,, other
countries laughing at the west just before they crush us economically,,,
lol,,, and you brag you were involved.

krause,, you cannot even run a family,, (you lost your own children, you
lost 2 wives and this one is 20 years dumber or younger than you), and you
think you can run a business,,, lol,,,

And this woman 20 years younger,, lol,,,ouch,,, oo,, and you don't hate
women,, I bet she is your cook, cleaner, does our laundry just right,,,
lol,, krause that is funny,, to hear this dumb broad is earning an education
,,, lol,,, is she a left over from your teaching days?? did you breach a
student/teacher relationship krause?? hmmmm,,, this I gotta ask your friend
about,, first off I don't believe you,, your a professional liar,,, but once
again, I think you are off your meds again,,,









"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Tuuuk wrote:
Ok,, krause,,, lets have a look,,, as I cannot waste with you this
morning,,


"''"'' Actually, it was Local 99 of the Purple Pickle Packers..."'''''


First you said it was the

'"'''FudgePackers Local 103 ''''"



I told you, you cannot read. I belong to Local 99 of the Purple Pickle
Packers. YOU are in FudgePackers Local 103. My guess is that this went
right over your head.





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