"NOYB" wrote in message
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We have weapons and technology that negate any numerical advantage that
the other side might have. Why do you think that Israel has been able to
survive for all these years?

How has all our technology fared against suicide bombers? It hasn't worked
too well for Israel. Survival is only a partial goal.

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:30:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:51:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:37:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

" Tuuuk" wrote in message
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You simply show your ignorance and selfishness. I mean were you not
yourself once part of the military in Vietnam? Now your turn has
changed
as you succeeded into armchair general rank

You twit. "Armchair general" is a term used for someone who has no
experience in the area on which he's commenting. If, as you state, Harry
spent time in Vietnam doing ANYTHING, he is qualified to speak on the
subject of war. You, on the other hand, were probably giving blowjobs to
cats to relax them and make them more tender before your momma prepared
them
for dinner.


Shut the **** UP already! Cripes!


You actually believe Krause was in Vietnam? Did you ever stop to think
that Krause has *been* to every single place that anyone in this group
has mentioned? He has owned at least one of every single *thing* that
has been mentioned? He has held every single job that has ever been
mentioned?

Doug, you must be one of great faith.

John H

John, we're talking about Tuuk here. What difference does it make how far
we
veer from reality? Ever been in a bar and had some drunk tell you far
fetched stories, but you listen and nod your head anyway because the guy's
SO hammered? Same with Tuuk.


Doug, Tuuk has his own way of writing, I'll grant you that. But, much
of what he is coming down on Harry for is true.

I'm more sensitive to noise than you are, I guess. When sounds, radio
transmissions, music or writing consist of mostly noise, whatever
information is there becomes meaningless. Tuuk adds noise intentionally, as
you may have noticed over the past 48 hours. Read his stuff carefully.


Yes, there is a lot of noise - justified anger at some of the crap
Harry spews. You're right though, it is noise and detracts from the
truth of what he says.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH wrote:

Yes, there is a lot of noise - justified anger at some of the crap
Harry spews. You're right though, it is noise and detracts from the
truth of what he says.

John H


Pretty funny, Herringbrain.

The truth of what Tuuuuu,,,,j says:

Harry is 75 years old.
Wrong by 15 years.

Harry's mother lives on Florida's west coast in a retirement home and he
hasn't seen her for years.

Wrong. My mother died in the 1990s, and she owned and lived in a condo
in Palm Beach. It is true I haven't seen her in years.

Harry used to work at a printing plant, where he was some sort of editor.
Wrong. Never worked at a printing plant of any kind.

Harry's friend from the printing plant has given me all sorts of info
about him.
Wrong. Never worked at a printing plant of any kind.

Harry lives next to a major highway in a town near the center of Maryland.
Wrong.

Harry worked "union jobs" for his entire life.
Wrong. I haven't worked a "union job" in nearly 40 years, though I am
still a member of several unions, and I have worked *for* several
international labor unions as a staff member or consultant.

Harry is on all sorts of medications.
I take one vitamin and one aspirin a day.


What is apparent is that Tuuuu,,,,k the idiot has found someone with a
name similar to mine and believes that person is me. Not the first time
a newsgroup idiot has done that.


And, of course, Herring, being another newsgroup idiot and one of
Tuu,,,,,k's facilitators, *and* a loser who spent his career in the
military, believes in Tuu,,,,,,,,,k.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Dave Hall wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:09:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


JohnH wrote:


Doug, Tuuk has his own way of writing, I'll grant you that. But, much
of what he is coming down on Harry for is true.
John H



Herring is used to reading Tuuk's kinda stuff...he was a "career" guy in
the military.


And you think that's a bad thing?

Oh, I think Herring and the military establishment were well-suited.

I have nothing but the upmost respect for military personnel.

I have great respect for some individual soldiers, and I feel compassion
for those who are forced to leave their families to go fight Bush's war.

I believe soldiers who see action deserve better pay and benefits, while
they serve in a war zone, I believe they deserve first-class medical
treatment when they are injured in training or in battle, and I believe
their families deserve more than $12,000 when they are KIA. I therefore
hold soldiers in higher regard than the POTUS. Smoke that.

But, I have very little respect for the "military establishment," and
believe its main purpose is to perpetuate itself.

Our enemy's perpetuate the military and its establishment.

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:09:08 GMT, "Senior Wrangler"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Israel's intel told them that Saddam had WMD and moved them to Syria
just
before the war.

Then we should have listened to them. If that were true, BushCo's
reason for going there would have been nil.

We said he had WMD. Shipping them to Syria doesn't negate the fact that
he had them and was in violation of UN Security Council Resolutions.

Same bull**** - different day.

Don't you guys ever give up? You were saying the same things
six months ago.


It'll be still going up until the election of 2008 and then, pending
the outcome, even more sour grapes.


Dave

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:19:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:19:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Don White wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Herring is a great fan of Tuuk's, and has so stated, and so is Hertvik.



A few days ago JimH told Tuuk to ease off. I think Tuuk's garbage is too
much for anyone with any common sense at all. It appears that JohnH is
willing to do/excuse anything to get back at you.

Herring is a first-class facilitator of anyone he thinks will create
problems for me. I really don't know what is behind all his hatred. I
offered to take him out fishing a couple of times when his boat was laid
up, and I offered to take Mr. and Mrs. Herring out for a nice cruise on
the Bay, and he nastily turned me down. Well, it's his loss, not mine.

Maybe Herring takes all this newsgroup banter a bit too seriously. After
all, I tease NOYB mercilessly, and he does the same to me, but I'm sure
we'd have a good time fishing together, or hanging out on the dock. I've
met Herring once and seen him several times; he looks to be about as
much fun as lower intestinal gas in a space suit.


Maybe John has a problem with people who "diss" military people. Those
same people who brought you your freedom to diss them.....

Dave


Herring and his generation did nothing to assure my freedom. My freedom
had nothing to do with our idiotic war against Vietnam, or our dirty
little wars in Central and South America.

All Herring's generation did was run up huge deficits and near-bankrupt
the country.

When was this country "nearly bankrupt"?

Dave

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:09:08 GMT, "Senior Wrangler"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Israel's intel told them that Saddam had WMD and moved them to Syria
just
before the war.

Then we should have listened to them. If that were true, BushCo's
reason for going there would have been nil.

We said he had WMD. Shipping them to Syria doesn't negate the fact that
he had them and was in violation of UN Security Council Resolutions.

Same bull**** - different day.

Don't you guys ever give up? You were saying the same things
six months ago.


It'll be still going up until the election of 2008 and then, pending
the outcome, even more sour grapes.


Harry is hoping for the end of the world before then...so that he doesn't
need to witness the final nail in the coffin of the Democratic party.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


It's hard to talk when ones head is severed from ones body.



Oh, I dunno...consider the case of Tuuu,,,,,k.

He types.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:09:08 GMT, "Senior Wrangler"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Israel's intel told them that Saddam had WMD and moved them to Syria
just
before the war.

Then we should have listened to them. If that were true, BushCo's
reason for going there would have been nil.

We said he had WMD. Shipping them to Syria doesn't negate the fact
that
he had them and was in violation of UN Security Council Resolutions.

Same bull**** - different day.

Don't you guys ever give up? You were saying the same things
six months ago.


It'll be still going up until the election of 2008 and then, pending
the outcome, even more sour grapes.


Harry is hoping for the end of the world before then...so that he doesn't
need to witness the final nail in the coffin of the Democratic party.

I sure do hope the Democrats selecte Dean as the chairman of the DNC!

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:07:06 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:09:08 GMT, "Senior Wrangler"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:

Israel's intel told them that Saddam had WMD and moved them to Syria
just
before the war.

Then we should have listened to them. If that were true, BushCo's
reason for going there would have been nil.

We said he had WMD. Shipping them to Syria doesn't negate the fact that
he had them and was in violation of UN Security Council Resolutions.

Same bull**** - different day.

Don't you guys ever give up? You were saying the same things
six months ago.


It'll be still going up until the election of 2008 and then, pending
the outcome, even more sour grapes.


Harry is hoping for the end of the world before then...so that he doesn't
need to witness the final nail in the coffin of the Democratic party.

Keep an eye on Hillary. She is slowly and carefully pulling away (or
at least giving the illusion) from the more radical left of the
democratic party. Her handlers have concluded that there is no way a
liberal would win the presidency in '08. So you have 4 years for
Hillary to "re-invent" herself as a moderate centrist, who hopes to
appeal to the battle weary republicans and the more moderate
democrats. Her very public and calculated vote in favor of Condi Rice
was orchestrated deliberately to stand out from those of Kerry,
Kennedy, Boxer, and the rest of the left wing of the party.

But don't ever forget, she was the biggest proponent of socialized
medicine and government mandated child care (at taxpayer expense).....


Dave