In article .com,
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I would love to stay here and argue pointlessly to a brick wall, I have
better, more constructive things to do with my life.

The original article that began this discussion is now more than two
years old. You seem to have stayed longer than anyone else!

Thanks to resources now available, I can answer a question I asked
previously:

What was the phase of the moon
and its azimuth and elevation at approximately
2:15 a.m. local time on the night of August 1-2,
1943 in approximate location Blackett Strait
off Vanga Vanga, i.e., the time and place of
the collision between PT-109 and the Japanese
destroyer?

According to some data provided by

http://www.skyviewcafe.com/skyview.php

there was no moonrise that evening. The moon was
at a nearly new-moon state.

Deriliction of duty is not erased by saving a crew member.

The loss of the PT-109 sits squarely on Kennedy's shoulders and he is
responsible for its sinking.

The fact that Kenney's father pulled some strings ought to get a few of the
liberal/progressive/Democrats up in arms but, sadly the will not treat this
coddling the same as the alleged coddling of Bush.


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oups.com...
I have been reading some of your latest posts and some of the posts you
had written in the middle. When The ship Amagiri crushed through the
PT-109, it was traveling at top speed or close to it. During World War
II PT boats were only designed for hit and run attacks. The boats
would approach enimy ships, drop a torpedo into the water and run.
The date was August 2, 1943 near the Solomon Islands. Kennedy's ship
was ordered to patrol(PT Boat= Patrol Torpedo Boat) the area and call
in any sightings of enimy ships. At 2:00am while Kennedy's boat was
creaping along trying to make the least ammount of nois themselves, The
Amagiri traveling at about 40 knots cut clean through the 109. During
this collision Kennedy was thrown onto his already bad back. (He was
even denied entry into the navy due to his back problems, but his dad
pulled a few strings and got him in anyway. After this collision he
was even forced to leave the Navy.) Even with his hurting back though,
Kennedy dragged one of his fellow shipmates, that had a wounded leg,
three miles to the island called "Potato Pie Island" Using a rope that
he held in his teath. This does not sound like a man that would be
slacking off on his dueties to me. He was later awarded a purple heart
and the Navy and Marine Corps Medal. Now, I have notice that you have
be arguing for quite some time now. I do not expect my message to make
you finnaly believe your wrong, due to your stubborness, but I would
like to say one thing: You are sitting at home arguing about how
Kennedy was most likely the one who screwed up by not paying attention
and just day dreaming that night (along with the other 11 crew members)
when really you are worse than him because you, rather than helping
the world, would rather sit at home critisizing a war hero. As much as
I would love to stay here and argue pointlessly to a brick wall, I have
better, more constructive things to do with my life.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
Deriliction of duty is not erased by saving a crew member.

The loss of the PT-109 sits squarely on Kennedy's shoulders and he is
responsible for its sinking.

This from a buttwiper whose most dangerous military duty was swabbing out
the head.

At least I served my country unlike you who spits on it anytime you can.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:

Deriliction of duty is not erased by saving a crew member.

The loss of the PT-109 sits squarely on Kennedy's shoulders and he is
responsible for its sinking.

This from a buttwiper whose most dangerous military duty was swabbing out
the head.


At least I served my country unlike you who spits on it anytime you
can.





I served my country, in a time of war, and in a war zone. I had two jobs
in Vietnam, the first having to do with an agricultural "pacification"
program, and the second having to do with the location, initial
identification and recovery of soldiers who bought it. Both duties were at
least 1000 per cent more hazardous than your time swabbing out heads.
Well, maybe not...you obviously were negatively impacted by your mop time.

You didn't serve you did a job.