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When love was love only.
Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex
until married? Those were the good old days when we obeyed God; so He made our corn tall, wildflowers plenteous, drove out harmful animals, and gave us fresh water streams full of good fish, and God kept us healthy and strong and smart. In the Old Testament everybody was expected to be celibate until married, and every child was expected to be immaculate. God has some holy people today too. When your town becomes wicked, sell your house and move away to where God shows you. Hold fast your love in God. Thank You God in the Lord Jesus' name. KW. |
Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. My uncle, who grew up during depression days, used to hate hearing someone talk about the "good old days". He'd tell them in a second, that the "good old days" weren't so good! |
"Apostle Keith Williams" wrote in message news:9901a$41ed60eb$4f5dd58$11539@allthenewsgroups .com... Remember the good old days when love was only love, and we didn't do sex until married? No, I don't Jim Carter |
"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? My uncle, who grew up during depression days, used to hate hearing someone talk about the "good old days". He'd tell them in a second, that the "good old days" weren't so good! There were bad things and good things about those times. I don't know if I could ever live without the comforts and technology of today. I don't know how folks survived without running water, hot water on demand, electricity, cars, etc.....but they somehow survived. Medical knowledge and technology was also no where near what we have today and thus average life spans were in the 50 or 60 year ranges. Now they are in the 70 to 80 year range, at least in the US. On the other hand we seem to have lost our moral and family values, now almost things of the past. One only has to look at the percentage of children being born out of wedlock (almost 80% in the black community and almost 25% in the white community). A young single mother with child, especially in her teens, is almost a ticket to povery. Add to that increasing crime rates, lack of decency on the airwaves and the music being sold and we have indeed become a nation without moral value. Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the inconviences I almost long for those days. And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. |
JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place? Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip, and are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation. Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the inconviences I almost long for those days. And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the christian right. |
"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place? So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and were then stoned to death? Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip, and are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation. Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly not the Catholic Religion. Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the inconviences I almost long for those days. And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the christian right. You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals, so I will paste it here for you to read again: ----- There were bad things and good things about those times. I don't know if I could ever live without the comforts and technology of today. I don't know how folks survived without running water, hot water on demand, electricity, cars, etc.....but they somehow survived. Medical knowledge and technology was also no where near what we have today and thus average life spans were in the 50 or 60 year ranges. Now they are in the 70 to 80 year range, at least in the US. On the other hand we seem to have lost our moral and family values, now almost things of the past. One only has to look at the percentage of children being born out of wedlock (almost 80% in the black community and almost 25% in the white community). A young single mother with child, especially in her teens, is almost a ticket to poverty. Add to that increasing crime rates, lack of decency on the airwaves and the music being sold and we have indeed become a nation without moral value. Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the inconviences I almost long for those days. And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. ----- So which world is/was repressed by the Christian right? Then or now? |
JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place? So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and were then stoned to death? Yes. Absolutely. Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip, and are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation. Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly not the Catholic Religion. Really? Then where do Catholic children come from? Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the inconviences I almost long for those days. And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the christian right. You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals Yes, indeed. |
"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place? So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and were then stoned to death? Yes. Absolutely. How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem, Mass.? Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip, and are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation. Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly not the Catholic Religion. Really? Then where do Catholic children come from? Do you know the definition of fornication? Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the inconviences I almost long for those days. And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the christian right. You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals Yes, indeed. And to suit your end of the discussion. You forgot to answer this last question (you again snipped it from your reply). Here is a repost: And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the christian right. You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals, so I will paste it here for you to read again: ----- There were bad things and good things about those times. I don't know if I could ever live without the comforts and technology of today. I don't know how folks survived without running water, hot water on demand, electricity, cars, etc.....but they somehow survived. Medical knowledge and technology was also no where near what we have today and thus average life spans were in the 50 or 60 year ranges. Now they are in the 70 to 80 year range, at least in the US. On the other hand we seem to have lost our moral and family values, now almost things of the past. One only has to look at the percentage of children being born out of wedlock (almost 80% in the black community and almost 25% in the white community). A young single mother with child, especially in her teens, is almost a ticket to poverty. Add to that increasing crime rates, lack of decency on the airwaves and the music being sold and we have indeed become a nation without moral value. Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the inconviences I almost long for those days. And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. ----- So which world is/was repressed by the Christian right? Then or now? |
JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place? So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and were then stoned to death? Yes. Absolutely. How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem, Mass.? How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a witch. Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions. And yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history besides what you wanted to understand? Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip, and are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation. Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly not the Catholic Religion. Really? Then where do Catholic children come from? Do you know the definition of fornication? Yes. Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the inconviences I almost long for those days. And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the christian right. You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals Yes, indeed. And to suit your end of the discussion. No, because it's not relevent. Morals are in the eye of the beholder. You forgot to answer this last question (you again snipped it from your reply). Here is a repost: And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. Me too. I only hope that it's not a world repressed by the christian right. You seemed to have snipped my discussion on ethics and morals, so I will paste it here for you to read again: ----- There were bad things and good things about those times. I don't know if I could ever live without the comforts and technology of today. I don't know how folks survived without running water, a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hot%20water%20on%20demand" onmouseover="window.status='hot water on demand'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hot water on demand/a, electricity, cars, etc.....but they somehow survived. Medical knowledge and technology was also no where near what we have today and thus average life spans were in the 50 or 60 year ranges. Now they are in the 70 to 80 year range, at least in the US. On the other hand we seem to have lost our moral and family values, now almost things of the past. One only has to look at the percentage of children being born out of wedlock (almost 80% in the black community and almost 25% in the white community). A young single mother with child, especially in her teens, is almost a ticket to poverty. Add to that increasing crime rates, lack of decency on the airwaves and the music being sold and we have indeed become a nation without moral value. Nope, these days are nothing like the good old days. Despite the inconviences I almost long for those days. And I wonder what type of world my children and their children will have to live in. ----- So which world is/was repressed by the Christian right? Then or now? The world that we live on. |
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place? So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and were then stoned to death? Yes. Absolutely. How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem, Mass.? How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a witch. Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions. And yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history besides what you wanted to understand? Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip, and are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation. Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly not the Catholic Religion. Really? Then where do Catholic children come from? Do you know the definition of fornication? Yes. I don't think so. Nice try. |
JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place? So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and were then stoned to death? Yes. Absolutely. How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem, Mass.? How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a witch. Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions. And yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history besides what you wanted to understand? Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip, and are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation. Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly not the Catholic Religion. Really? Then where do Catholic children come from? Do you know the definition of fornication? Yes. I don't think so. Nice try. Please, learn to comprehend what you've read. I said YES |
"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place? So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and were then stoned to death? Yes. Absolutely. How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem, Mass.? How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a witch. Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions. And yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history besides what you wanted to understand? Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip, and are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation. Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly not the Catholic Religion. Really? Then where do Catholic children come from? Do you know the definition of fornication? Yes. I don't think so. Nice try. Please, learn to comprehend what you've read. I said YES You certainly would not have stated that Catholic children are born as a result of fornication if you knew the definition of the word. Don't feel bad as Krause obviously did not know the meaning of the word also as he did not know of a Commandment prohibiting it. Nice try Bassy but no cigar. |
JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... Harry Krause wrote: Apostle Keith Williams wrote: Remember the good old days when we didn't do sex until married? Sex before marriage is as old as marriage itself. No, I don't. Thank god. Hell, let's just go back to the "good old days" when, if a woman spoke out of line, she was deemed a witch and stoned to death. If she spoke *out of line* she was deemed a witch and stoned to death? I don't recall reading about that. When and where was that happening? Salem, Mass. for one. Ever hear of the place? So the women there spoke *out of line*, were judged to be witches and were then stoned to death? Yes. Absolutely. How so? And was this a widespread problem or only in Salem, Mass.? How so? Because the powers that were, simply deemed someone a witch. Those women who dared speak out were put in horrible positions. And yes, it was widespread. Have you ever read much of our history besides what you wanted to understand? Or let's go back to the "good old days" when fornicating at all was considered a deadly sin. You may not think so (see my closing comments). It still is. Were the 10 Commandments rewriten Bassy? When did that happen? I guess you've not heard, the Christians have lossened their grip, and are allowing married couples to fornicate for procreation. Really? Specifically what religions would that include? Certainly not the Catholic Religion. Really? Then where do Catholic children come from? Do you know the definition of fornication? Yes. I don't think so. Nice try. Please, learn to comprehend what you've read. I said YES You certainly would not have stated that Catholic children are born as a result of fornication if you knew the definition of the word. Why? Oh, I see! YOU are getting LEGAL marriage confused with CHRISTIAN marriage. Don't feel bad as Krause obviously did not know the meaning of the word also as he did not know of a Commandment prohibiting it. Nice try Bassy but no cigar. I don't feel bad, I knew you were getting the two confused all along. Nice try, Jimmy, but no cigar. |
I wouldn't let him know your defence capacities. Surprise him, if he shows
up. |
common there krause,,,,, lets have a bet,,,
How about, next time you go down to the river, lemme know,, lemme know where and when,,, I bet you 50, you shoot yourself in your own foot,,,, And don't let your puppets make your mind up for you krause,, make up your own decision, lately you have been letting your puppets bait you, pull you along by the old brass nose ring. "Don White" wrote in message ... I wouldn't let him know your defence capacities. Surprise him, if he shows up. |
krause,,, loll,,, you liar
Lets prove your lies again,,, gees,,, lets easily look at what you said,,, ''''' I'd rather the idiot didn't show up'''''"" You liar,, you invited me, you also invited everyone, you said we are welcome with our picnic baskets and cameras. You mean to tell me, that when you open the gates in the morning to allow all those people to walk along your property, you ask if anyone in the crowd is Tuuk ?? LOL,,, krause,,, are you off your meds man?? I mean you said yourself that you have people daily walking your acreage, with all the deer and the buffalo roam,,, where you feed all the critters,, by the bay,,, lol,,, '''"""Well, he's been warned, and directly, and in writing, right here"''''"'' LOL,,, I cannot be expected to keep up with all your lies,,, it is impossible, I know what you said and I go from there,,,,, ""''''and the cops are aware of him, his identity, and his threats.'''''''" krause,,, lol,,, you liar,,, first off,,, I have never made a threat,,, lol,,, never,,, you liar,,, you coward. Second, the cops are not aware of me,,, you liar,,, what are you going to do krause,,, you are a law expert, wouldn't the cops ask for some type of credible evidence? Some real threats or concrete evidence before they waste their time. LOL,,,, krause you simply proved you are a coward like you do every day.....,,,,,,, nope,,, krause,, you made an invitation,, I accepted,, now get over it,, start doing your pushups,,, "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: I wouldn't let him know your defence capacities. Surprise him, if he shows up. I'd rather the idiot didn't show up. Well, he's been warned, and directly, and in writing, right here, and the cops are aware of him, his identity, and his threats. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: I wouldn't let him know your defence capacities. Surprise him, if he shows up. I'd rather the idiot didn't show up. Well, he's been warned, and directly, and in writing, right here, and the cops are aware of him, his identity, and his threats. The big bad peace loving pussy is scared and has threatend violence upon those that he doesn't like. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Bert Robbins wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: I wouldn't let him know your defence capacities. Surprise him, if he shows up. I'd rather the idiot didn't show up. Well, he's been warned, and directly, and in writing, right here, and the cops are aware of him, his identity, and his threats. The big bad peace loving pussy is scared and has threatend violence upon those that he doesn't like. Wrong again, Bertbrain. I merely have warned Tuuu,,,,,,,,,,K that he will be considered a trespasser and that if he tries to enter my home he will be considered a home invader. Trespassers are reported to the police; home invaders are dealt with differently. Tell us, oh great marine who never saw action, if a lunatic who had threatened you came to your front door out there in Monty County and attempted to force his way into your house, what would you do? Call Jackoff? I would make sure that he died within the perimeter of my house's structure. There would be no questions as to his trespassing and threatening me at that point. |
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... snip... Tell us, oh great marine who never saw action, if a lunatic who had threatened you came to your front door out there in Monty County and attempted to force his way into your house, what would you do? Call Jackoff? snip.... Our resident bad-ass jughead stated that he would go out and take his beating like a man. Either he's full of crap...or he gets his kicks being slapped around. Any normal person would do what the law allows to protect their person, family & property. |
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:03:53 GMT, "Don White"
wrote: "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... snip... Tell us, oh great marine who never saw action, if a lunatic who had threatened you came to your front door out there in Monty County and attempted to force his way into your house, what would you do? Call Jackoff? snip.... Our resident bad-ass jughead stated that he would go out and take his beating like a man. Either he's full of crap...or he gets his kicks being slapped around. Any normal person would do what the law allows to protect their person, family & property. Forget it! Today has been great without any name calling. Twenty four hours wouldn't be that hard. Try it! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"John H" wrote in message ... Forget it! Today has been great without any name calling. Twenty four hours wouldn't be that hard. Try it! -- John H Sorry...Bert made me do it! |
"WaIIy" wrote in message ... You would only do what the "law allows" to protect your family? Interesting moral position. Yes, only what the law allows. James Carter |
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