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[email protected] January 15th 05 05:08 PM

In favor of school prayer...
 
Harry,

Your buddy just doesn't understand and maybe you don't either. When we
say "school prayer" here in the Christian nation of the United States,
we aren't even considering any prayers from any of them damnable
heathen cultists like Mormons, Buddhists, Jews, Ay-rabs (of any sort),
Hindus, Undus, Wiccans, or liberal Democrat Unitarians. Catholics ought
to be allowed to pray, but they have to leave the beads, the statues,
the icons, and crucifi at home. That town should fire everyone of them
communist rabble rousers on that school board and replace them with
God-fearing, red white and blue blooded, Christian, American, combat
veterans. Protestants preferred. White would be nice, too, but we have
to soft-pedal that these days and include at least a token something,
right?

After all, these are family values we're trying to teach here. Those
values ought to reflect the prevailing attitudes of the 53% majority of
American families.


JohnH January 15th 05 05:30 PM

On 15 Jan 2005 09:08:48 -0800, wrote:

Harry,

Your buddy just doesn't understand and maybe you don't either. When we
say "school prayer" here in the Christian nation of the United States,
we aren't even considering any prayers from any of them damnable
heathen cultists like Mormons, Buddhists, Jews, Ay-rabs (of any sort),
Hindus, Undus, Wiccans, or liberal Democrat Unitarians. Catholics ought
to be allowed to pray, but they have to leave the beads, the statues,
the icons, and crucifi at home. That town should fire everyone of them
communist rabble rousers on that school board and replace them with
God-fearing, red white and blue blooded, Christian, American, combat
veterans. Protestants preferred. White would be nice, too, but we have
to soft-pedal that these days and include at least a token something,
right?

After all, these are family values we're trying to teach here. Those
values ought to reflect the prevailing attitudes of the 53% majority of
American families.


The biggest help to our school system would be a drastic lowering of
the student-teacher ratio.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Snafu January 15th 05 06:23 PM


The biggest help to our school system would be a drastic lowering of
the student-teacher ratio.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to

resolve it."
Rene Descartes



Amen!



JimH January 15th 05 06:29 PM


"Snafu" wrote in message
...

The biggest help to our school system would be a drastic lowering of
the student-teacher ratio.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to

resolve it."
Rene Descartes



Amen!



More importantly would be parents who care about their children's education
and work with their children to do better.



JohnH January 15th 05 08:08 PM

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:29:20 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Snafu" wrote in message
...

The biggest help to our school system would be a drastic lowering of
the student-teacher ratio.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to

resolve it."
Rene Descartes



Amen!



More importantly would be parents who care about their children's education
and work with their children to do better.


I would say that's #2. If I had had half as many, or two-thirds as
many, students, I could spend a lot more time convincing parents to be
parental. With 28-30 kids per class, much of the classroom time is a
total waste - correcting behavior.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Don White January 15th 05 08:26 PM


"JohnH" wrote in message
...

I would say that's #2. If I had had half as many, or two-thirds as
many, students, I could spend a lot more time convincing parents to be
parental. With 28-30 kids per class, much of the classroom time is a
total waste - correcting behavior.

John H


Why don't you show them some of that good old 'army dicipline'?



JohnH January 15th 05 08:38 PM

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:26:50 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

I would say that's #2. If I had had half as many, or two-thirds as
many, students, I could spend a lot more time convincing parents to be
parental. With 28-30 kids per class, much of the classroom time is a
total waste - correcting behavior.

John H


Why don't you show them some of that good old 'army dicipline'?


I wish!

I spent two years teaching at the West Point Prep school at Fort
Belvoir. *Those* were some motivated students!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JGK January 17th 05 02:58 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

As long as there are tests in schools, there will be prayers in schools too.
no matter what the states say!!




jps January 17th 05 08:27 AM

In article ,
says...

Brilliant piece. It always floors me when our political or religious
leaders talk about God being part of the foundation of this country and
how we should not be afraid to let him (or her or it) into our everyday
public lives.

I always come up with the same question. Which one? All of them?

What these crackers are really saying is that we should rally behind
Jesus, our one and true savior.

Wow. And here I thought that among this country's founding premises was
religious freedom and that the gov't shouldn't be in the business of
religion.

Thanks for the story. I was a pleasure to read.

jps

Tuuuk January 18th 05 11:46 AM

krause

lol,,
now here we know this is a lie,, krause claims it is from his "friend"
lol,,, now we all know krause only has puppets.

It gets funnier every day,, now whenever I see the word krause,, I associate
it with liar. ANd of course a 76 year old senile old fool who sometimes
screws up his medicine (which he buys from Canada).

krause,,, you are one amusing old fool,,, I cannot wait until the day we
meet eye to eye, which may be difficult but I will lower myself to your eye
level as the little creap you are.








"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JUAN NINGUNO, an old preacher-friend of mine from days past, sent me a
letter not long ago. His letters are always fantastic (in the sense of the
primary meaning of that word). I never know when I'll hear from Juan. He
moves around a lot - mostly in almost forgotten places where I myself have
journeyed. This letter was sent from Nevada. Allow me to share it with
you:

Dear Friend:

As you know, we've been working real hard in our town to get prayer back
in the schools. Finally, the school board approved a plan of teacher-led
prayer with the children participating at their own option. Children not
wishing to participate were to be allowed to stand out in the hallway
during the prayer time. We hoped someone would sue us so we could go all
the way to the Supreme Court and get that old devil-inspired ruling
reversed.

Naturally, we were all excited by the school board's action. As you know,
our own little Billy (not so little, any more, though) is now in the
second grade. Of course, Margaret and I explained to him no matter what
the other kids did, he was going to stay in the classroom and participate.

After the first day of school, I asked him, "How did the prayer time go?"
"Fine."
"Did many kids go out into the hallway?"
"Two."
"Excellent. How did you like your teacher's prayer?"
"It was different, Dad. Real different from the way you pray."
"Oh? Like how?"
"She said, 'Hail, Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners...'"

The next day I talked with the principal. I politely explained I wasn't
prejudice against Catholics but I would appreciate Billy being transferred
to a non-Catholic teacher. The principal said it would be done right away.

At supper that evening I asked Billy to say the blessings. He slipped out
of his chair, sat cross-legged on the floor, closed his eyes, raised his
hands palms up and began to hum.

You'd better believe I was at the principal's office at eight o'clock the
next morning. "Look," I said. "I don't really know much about these
Transcendental Meditationists, but I would feel a lot more comfortable if
you could move Billy to a room where the teacher practices and older, more
established religion.'"

That afternoon I met Billy as soon as he walked in the door after school.
"I don't think your going to like Mrs. Nakasone's prayer, either, Dad."
"Out with it."
"She kept calling God 'O Great Buddha...'"

The following morning I was waiting for the principal in the school
parking lot. "Look, I don't want my son praying to the Eternal Spirit of
whatever or to Buddha. I want him to have a teacher that prays in Jesus'
name!"
"What about Bertha Smith?"
"Excellent."
I could hardly wait to hear about Mrs. Smith's prayer. I was standing on
the front steps of the school when the final bell rang.
"Well?" I asked Billy as we walked towards the car.
"Okay."
"Okay what?"
"Mrs. Smith asked God to bless us and ended her prayer in Jesus name,
amen - just like you."
I breathed a sigh of relief. "Now we're getting some place."
"She even taught us a verse of scripture about prayer," said Billy.
I beamed. "Wonderful. What was the verse?"
"Let's see..." he mused for a moment. " 'And behold, they began to pray;
and they did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God.'"
We had reached the car. "Fantastic," I said, reaching for the door
handle. Then I paused. I couldn't place the scripture. "Billy, did Mrs.
Smith say what book that verse was from?"
"Third Nephi, chapter 19, verse 18."
"Third what?"
"Nephi," he said, "It's in the Book of Mormon."

The school board doesn't meet for a month. I've given Billy very
definite instructions that at prayer time each day he's to go out into the
hallway. I plan to be at that board meeting. If they don't do something
about this situation, I'll sue. I'll take it all the way to the Supreme
Court if I have to. I don't need the schools or anybody else teaching my
son about religion. We can take care of that ourselves at home and at
church,
thank you very much.
Give my love to your wife
Your buddy,
Juan





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