( OT ) WMD hunt over -- nothing found = More Bush Lies
 

I'm beginning to think that Jim and Harry are not fond of our president
or his policies....

Capt. Jeff

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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So, once again, proof of Bush's lies.


I wonder if the CIA etc contacted NOYB. He seems to have insider info that
the WMD were slipped out to Syria or Iran.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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So, once again, proof of Bush's lies.


I wonder if the CIA etc contacted NOYB. He seems to have insider info
that
the WMD were slipped out to Syria or Iran.


Not Iran. Syria.

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
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I'm beginning to think that Jim and Harry are not fond of our president or
his policies....

Capt. Jeff

Actually, there are only a handful of people in this country who are happy
with his policies. They consist of his advisors and his dog. Many millions
of people CLAIM to approve, but the reality is that they simply don't want
to be bothered with actually thinking about things.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

Not Iran. Syria.

Even the Bush administration now admits that it is extremely unlikely that
WMD
were removed to a neighboring country.

That's news to me. Which member of the Bush administration said that?

NOYB wrote:

That's news to me. Which member of the Bush administration said that?
*************

John R. Bolton, Undersecretary for Arms Control. September, 2003

Notice the use of the term "no information". This was back when we were
still absolutely convinced that SH was sitting on a chemical and
nuclear stockpile of bad stuff, based on the flimsiest available
shadows of questionable evidence....

Bolton said, about Syria.......

While there is currently no information indicating that the Syrian
Government has transferred WMD to terrorist organizations or would
permit such groups to acquire them, Syria=92s ties to numerous terrorist
groups underlie the reasons for our continued anxiety.

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NOYB wrote:

That's news to me. Which member of the Bush administration said that?
*************

John R. Bolton, Undersecretary for Arms Control. September, 2003
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Hmmm......John Bolton, September 2003.

I could have sworn you just said "Even the Bush administration now admits
that it is extremely unlikely that WMD were removed to a neighboring
country."

Interesting how you continue to make up stories or stretch the truth in
order to support your agenda or thesis.

There's a lot of behind-the-scenes maneuvering taking place regarding Syria
right now. Russia is neck-deep in this, and I believe that's the only
reason we haven't moved against Syria yet. There is plenty of
circumstantial evidence suggesting that Russia helped Saddam conceal his
WMD...perhaps even helping him move them out of the country to Syria. Now,
Russia is causing a huge rift in Russian-Israeli and US-Russian relations
with its proposed sale of air defense and anti-aircraft missile to Syria.

If you go back to early 2003, we hit a Russian convoy streaking across the
desert making a bee-line for Syria. It was supposedly a group of embassy
officials (driving alongside heavy trucks?!?). We tried to get them to
divert to Jordan, but they ignored our request. The wounded were taken to a
hospital in..........Fallujah. The very next day, Condi Rice (an expert on
the former USSR) was dispatched to Moscow.

There may be a new Cold War on the horizon...and Syria and Iran are the
Russian pawns in the stand-off.








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NOYB wrote:

That's news to me. Which member of the Bush administration said that?
*************

John R. Bolton, Undersecretary for Arms Control. September, 2003

Notice the use of the term "no information". This was back when we were
still absolutely convinced that SH was sitting on a chemical and
nuclear stockpile of bad stuff, based on the flimsiest available
shadows of questionable evidence....

Bolton said, about Syria.......

While there is currently no information indicating that the Syrian
Government has transferred WMD to terrorist organizations or would
permit such groups to acquire them, Syrias ties to numerous terrorist
groups underlie the reasons for our continued anxiety.

wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
That's news to me. Which member of the Bush administration said that?
*************
John R. Bolton, Undersecretary for Arms Control. September, 2003


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Hmmm......John Bolton, September 2003.


I could have sworn you just said "Even the Bush administration now
admits
that it is extremely unlikely that WMD were removed to a neighboring
country."


Interesting how you continue to make up stories or stretch the truth in

order to support your agenda or thesis.

***************

Be sure to support the next school bond in your district.


"The Bush Administration" includes not only GWB, but his VP, cabinet,
etc. Look it up.

NOYB wrote:

This mission took Armitage to Damascus with nine American demands.


DEBKA-Net-Weekly's Washington sources published those demands for the
first
time in its last week's issue: .


1. Start repealing Syria's 40-years old emergency laws.


2. Free all political prisoners from jail.


3. Abolish media censorship.


4. Initiate democratic reform.


5. Speed up economic development


6. Cut down relations with Iran.


7. Announce publicly that the disputed Shebaa Farms at the base of Mt.
Hermon are former Syrian territory. This would cut the ground from
under the
Lebanese terrorist Hizballah's claim that the land is Lebanese and must
be
"liberated" from Israeli "occupation."

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At least the next phase of the PNAC plan will be more honestly
conducted than was the first.

"We're here to tell you how to run your country, because we can, and we
hope to hell you refuse so we can turn you into another of our economic
and cultural colonies."

Notice that among those demands there is really nothing that could be
considered primarily a step to enhance the domestic security of the
United States or wipe out terrorists. We're admitting that much of our
motivation is to do the bidding of Israel in the region. That's good.
Honesty is better than selling us stories about yellow cake.

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wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
That's news to me. Which member of the Bush administration said that?
*************
John R. Bolton, Undersecretary for Arms Control. September, 2003


===========
Hmmm......John Bolton, September 2003.


I could have sworn you just said "Even the Bush administration now
admits
that it is extremely unlikely that WMD were removed to a neighboring
country."


Interesting how you continue to make up stories or stretch the truth in

order to support your agenda or thesis.

***************

Be sure to support the next school bond in your district.


"The Bush Administration" includes not only GWB, but his VP, cabinet,
etc. Look it up.


I realize that. Perhaps the emphasis should have been on the
date..."September, 2003". You did say, did you not,
"even the Bush Administration *now* admits..."?

So *now* can be some 15 months in the past?

I stand by my previous comment Chuck.

wrote in message
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wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
That's news to me. Which member of the Bush administration said that?
*************
John R. Bolton, Undersecretary for Arms Control. September, 2003


===========
Hmmm......John Bolton, September 2003.


I could have sworn you just said "Even the Bush administration now
admits
that it is extremely unlikely that WMD were removed to a neighboring
country."


Interesting how you continue to make up stories or stretch the truth in

order to support your agenda or thesis.

***************

Be sure to support the next school bond in your district.


"The Bush Administration" includes not only GWB, but his VP, cabinet,
etc. Look it up.


BTW, if you notice my replies to your posts they are done without insults to
you. Why do you continue to find it necessary to throw the juvenile insults
towards me Chuck?

BTW, if you notice my replies to your posts they are done without insults to
you.

An accusation of lying is not an insult?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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BTW, if you notice my replies to your posts they are done without insults
to
you.

An accusation of lying is not an insult?



Not if it is the truth, which it is.

Not if it is the truth, which it is.

So, if I said "You're an asshole", and I thought it was the truth, that
wouldn't be an insult?

One of your central problems could be a tendency to automatically elevate your
own opinions to the category of unassailable truth. Under those standards, you
could never insult anybody- no matter what you said. Under the same standards,
you could easily be personally offended when people said things you considered
untrue, (only because they didn't fit your preferred view of the universe).

************


There's a huge difference between the Christian right and the right Christians
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/ne...41012bsh.shtml

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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Not if it is the truth, which it is.

So, if I said "You're an asshole", and I thought it was the truth, that
wouldn't be an insult?

One of your central problems could be a tendency to automatically elevate
your
own opinions to the category of unassailable truth. Under those standards,
you
could never insult anybody- no matter what you said. Under the same
standards,
you could easily be personally offended when people said things you
considered
untrue, (only because they didn't fit your preferred view of the
universe).


Pot-kettle-black

JimH wrote:
I can prove the steps have enhanced domestic security in the US...we have
not had a terrorist attack on US soil since 9-11. ;-)

Correlation is not causation.

"-rick-" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
I can prove the steps have enhanced domestic security in the US...we have
not had a terrorist attack on US soil since 9-11. ;-)

Correlation is not causation.

Not always, but sometimes. ;-)

To what do you attribute the lack of terrorist attacks on US soil since
9-11?

"JimH" wrote in message
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"-rick-" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
I can prove the steps have enhanced domestic security in the US...we
have not had a terrorist attack on US soil since 9-11. ;-)

Correlation is not causation.

Not always, but sometimes. ;-)

To what do you attribute the lack of terrorist attacks on US soil since
9-11?


No. Correlation, by definition, is never causation.